Re: [MBZ] IDParts and Alternator Decoupler Pulleys

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It's a one way pulley, keeps the alternator from pushing the engine and smooths 
out the belt. Mine works, I needed a tool to move it to a new alternator...
Curt

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  On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   Someone already wrote about the 
failure of one.  Curt?  or was it Kleb?

> Craig via Mercedes 
> April 18, 2017 at 8:55 PM
> In poking around the IDParts site, I ran across something called
>
> Alternator Decoupler Pulleys
>
> What in the world are those for?
>
> Why would one want to decouple the alternator?
>
>
> Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Almost National Bird Wuz: OT Land Shark - low country style

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Only for turkey season. Sometimes hunters call in other hunters and get shot...
Curt

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> On April 18, 2017 at 8:57 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> First for both. Maine charges you for the turkey tag and then a fee for each 
> bird to the point it wasn't worth it. Mass is a $5 tag, register the birds 
> online.
> A friend would like some turkeys removed from his backyard so its a service 
> to him. The season starts a week from yesterday but I won't be able to hunt 
> the first day as I forgot to get my mandatory "don't shoot other hunters" 
> safety sticker what must be affixed to the barrel of my gun.

MA requires hunters to put safety stickers on their guns???
Mitch.
  
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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Max, et all-o-yer

Thanks.


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Cc: Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

If the key is still in the run position (position one) then you should be able 
to insert two 2mm pins, sharpened with the angled face toward the inside, and 
release the collar.  The pins need to be inserted 4 cm to engage the release.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

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Re: [MBZ] OT Land Shark - low country style

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Not for turkey, that's for waterfowl and not for anything without removable 
choke tubes, the steel is mighty hard on the barrel.If I were going for 
waterfowl I'd use bismuth shot, heavier and softer than steel.

Curt

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wrote:   DO you use steel shot?

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I'll be turkey hunting next week. Got to spend some time with my muzzle loading 
shotgun last Tuesday. Bit of a humbling experience, I'd thought it was an 18 
gauge which is unusual but not unheard of. The muzzle measures .635" which is 
bigger than 20ga but smaller than 16.I had bought some 18ga wads but they won't 
hold tight in the barrel so the pellets were falling back out... I used some 
wadded up newspaper which worked pretty well. I've ordered some 16ga ones that 
I'll try next week. On paper it patterns well enough with the newspaper that I 
ought to be able to take out a turkey out to 20 yards or so. Hopefully with 
better wads I'll be able to go farther out.
-Curt

      From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Land Shark - low country style

Speaking of which I was cycling over on Seabrook last week and a 5
footer ambled across the road in front of me, going from one pond to
another.

On a related note regarding eating the local wildlife, there have been
lots of turkeys around, I let a coupla boys who work for the power
company hunt a coupla weeks ago on the vast estate and they each got one
at different times.  Husband of a friend got one too on some of the
family property up the road, I was visiting their new baby and he was
cooking it up, frying breast chunks, it was quite tasty.

--FT


On 4/18/17 3:28 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
> Being me, I would have asked for the tail at least. Good eating there
> for a while when added to gumbo.
>
> Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> http://www.postandcourier.com/ news/alligator-climbs-to-a- 
>> second-story-mount-pleasant- porch-through/article_ 62f3764c-238a-11e7-9bb4- 
>> eb7197b7df98.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

If the key is still in the run position (position one) then you should be able 
to insert two 2mm pins, sharpened with the angled face toward the inside, and 
release the collar.  The pins need to be inserted 4 cm to engage the release.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 18, 2017 9:44:23 PM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Craig.
>
>Nope. Could not turn the key to off, or anywhere else.
>
>Stop lever and disconnected battery.
>
>Gathering tools, allies and patience.
>
>Ho (Bl**dy )Hum.
>
>
>Fred Moir.
>Lynn MA.
>Diesel preferred.
>
>
>
>From: Mercedes  on behalf of Craig via
>Mercedes 
>Sent: 18 April 2017 19:48
>To: Mercedes Discussion List
>Cc: Craig
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.
>
>On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:15:29 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> My '87 300TD is immobile and I'm annoyed.
>>
>> Went to Luke's, we had lunch and returned to his house. Key would not
>> turn off.
>
>I thought the real problem was when you turned it off and needed to
>turn
>it back on to the #1 position to release the shroud lock.
>
>
>Craig
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[MBZ] .034 chance

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

.034 chance of being killed if you were one of the 29 people shot in 18 
hours in Mayor Rumdum Emanuel's Chit ca go. Saturday and Sunday!


If you go by spent shell casings probably under .01 chance.   These 
rumdums are not exactly Alvin York!


http://gunsandrifles.com/2017/04/gun-controlled-chicago-29-people-shot-in-18-hours/ 



Old bummer should be proud that no guns are allowed in Chit ca go.



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Re: [MBZ] IDParts and Alternator Decoupler Pulleys

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I think those have a one-way clutch, which smoothes out the alternator rotation 
when at engine idle, so the belt doesn't jump so much.  On the OM603 engines 
and others with the serpentine belt, the change in belt jump at idle is 
dramatic.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 18, 2017 9:55:52 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:
>In poking around the IDParts site, I ran across something called
>
>   Alternator Decoupler Pulleys
>
>What in the world are those for?
>
>Why would one want to decouple the alternator?
>
>
>Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Last time I drove to NYC for work, the Brooklyn Marriott had free parking for 
platinum members.
-- 
Max Dillon
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 18, 2017 6:55:39 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>
>> On April 18, 2017 at 6:45 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> On the other, other hand I've been approached about a job in NYC, if
>it happens I'd spend the week there and come home on weekends. I'm not
>sure about relying on the old Jetta for that kind of ride...
>
>You're planning to drive to NYC and park your car there for the work
>week?
>Sounds expensive.
>
>Mitch
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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Let me know if you'd like a couple pictures.  Prior to removing the steering 
column, use a big screw driver to twist the face of the ignition tumbler, 
breaking a pin that holds the hardened face of the tumbler to the body that 
holds the wafers. Once this face can be rotated, rotate it to the #1 position, 
then pins can be inserted, but the collar probably will not release. If you've 
been living right, the collar will release, but only if someone took it all 
apart before and didn't put back the little levers and springs that lock the 
collar.  Simply inserting the pins is not enough, the tumbler body also needs 
to be rotated, but I'm assuming it won't, thus all the cutting and grinding.

Loosen the steering column, drop it down a bit so you have more access. I used 
a dremel tool cut off wheel to cut off the bottom half inch of the security 
collar, so that it can be removed.  Once that collar is off, with the pins 
inserted, the tumbler comes out.  (Note that I had plenty of access because I 
cut the steering lock at the neck between column and ignition lock / switch 
body, so I could rotate it around to get to all sides)

After the tumbler is out, a screwdriver can be used to rotate the switch to the 
#1 position, then the wiring harness connector on the back of the switch will 
pull out.

After the wiring harness connector is out, the three screws that hold the 
switch to the steering lock can be removed, and the ignition switch separated 
from the steering lock.

If you also need to remove the steering lock (if it is the failed component, or 
you damaged it during an earlier step) the pin holding the steering lock in the 
column is ground down, and the steering lock pulled out of the column.  I 
removed the steering column for this step.  Drastic, but made the grinding part 
much easier.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 18, 2017 8:26:39 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>All you really need to do after what Max said is to drill out the pin 
>that holds the steering lock in  Once that pin is released, loosen the 
>clamp holding the steering lock on the column; then you remove the
>whole 
>steering lock.  Then you can grind to split off the kryptonite shell 
>around the tumbler.
>
>This step can be done in place to make removing the steering lock 
>easier, (first choice)  or can be done after you have removed the 
>steering lock assembly. (second choice)   If the key is still stuck on,
>
>remove the 3 screws that hold in the electric switch on.  It will come 
>right off if the key is in the "on" position.  If they key is stuck 
>"off, the don't do this step until the tumbler is out of the steering 
>lock so the steering lock can be turned to the "ON" position so the 
>electric switch can be removed.
>
>Here is hoping the vibrating sander works!
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> April 18, 2017 at 6:00 PM
>> If the vibrator trick doesn't work, and you're prepared to start 
>> cutting, remove kick panel, instrument cluster, and loosen the two 
>> bolts holding steering column to dash support. Remove the brace on 
>> right side of steering column that goes under the ignition / steering
>
>> lock and blocks the access you'll need for cutting.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] IDParts and Alternator Decoupler Pulleys

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Someone already wrote about the failure of one.  Curt?  or was it Kleb?


Craig via Mercedes 
April 18, 2017 at 8:55 PM
In poking around the IDParts site, I ran across something called

Alternator Decoupler Pulleys

What in the world are those for?

Why would one want to decouple the alternator?


Craig


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[MBZ] IDParts and Alternator Decoupler Pulleys

[Craig via Mercedes]

In poking around the IDParts site, I ran across something called

Alternator Decoupler Pulleys

What in the world are those for?

Why would one want to decouple the alternator?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Almost National Bird Wuz: OT Land Shark - low country style

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Meaning what?

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sounds about par for the state!
>
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>> April 18, 2017 at 8:50 PM
>>
>> MA requires hunters to put safety stickers on their guns???
>> Mitch.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Land Shark - low country style

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I would.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Do YOU?
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> April 18, 2017 at 8:50 PM
>> DO you use steel shot?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Almost National Bird Wuz: OT Land Shark - low country style

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Sounds about par for the state!


Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
April 18, 2017 at 8:50 PM

MA requires hunters to put safety stickers on their guns???
Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Land Shark - low country style

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Do YOU?


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
April 18, 2017 at 8:50 PM
DO you use steel shot?


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Re: [MBZ] 1979 RARE MERCEDES BENZ 300D DIESEL MUST SEE ANTIQUE CLASSIC WOW CLEAN $6499

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

No sunroof!  English red!

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hous ton ...  home of the car scammers, and nigerian scammers.
>
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> April 18, 2017 at 6:56 PM
>>
>> 1979 RARE MERCEDES BENZ 300D DIESEL MUST SEE ANTIQUE CLASSIC WOW CLEAN
>> http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/6093561112.html
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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Read the "how to"s on the interwebs while you work up courage, and a plan.


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
April 18, 2017 at 8:44 PM
Craig.

Nope. Could not turn the key to off, or anywhere else.

Stop lever and disconnected battery.

Gathering tools, allies and patience.

Ho (Bl**dy )Hum.


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Re: [MBZ] Nice looking early 560

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Seems to have been well maintained and the dude sounds honest.  I would
offer $2K if I wanted to buy it.

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Re: [MBZ] Almost National Bird Wuz: OT Land Shark - low country style

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> On April 18, 2017 at 8:57 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> First for both. Maine charges you for the turkey tag and then a fee for each 
> bird to the point it wasn't worth it. Mass is a $5 tag, register the birds 
> online.
> A friend would like some turkeys removed from his backyard so its a service 
> to him. The season starts a week from yesterday but I won't be able to hunt 
> the first day as I forgot to get my mandatory "don't shoot other hunters" 
> safety sticker what must be affixed to the barrel of my gun.

MA requires hunters to put safety stickers on their guns???
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Land Shark - low country style

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DO you use steel shot?

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'll be turkey hunting next week. Got to spend some time with my muzzle
> loading shotgun last Tuesday. Bit of a humbling experience, I'd thought it
> was an 18 gauge which is unusual but not unheard of. The muzzle measures
> .635" which is bigger than 20ga but smaller than 16.I had bought some 18ga
> wads but they won't hold tight in the barrel so the pellets were falling
> back out... I used some wadded up newspaper which worked pretty well. I've
> ordered some 16ga ones that I'll try next week. On paper it patterns well
> enough with the newspaper that I ought to be able to take out a turkey out
> to 20 yards or so. Hopefully with better wads I'll be able to go farther
> out.
> -Curt
>
>   From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Floyd Thursby 
>  Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 3:47 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Land Shark - low country style
>
> Speaking of which I was cycling over on Seabrook last week and a 5
> footer ambled across the road in front of me, going from one pond to
> another.
>
> On a related note regarding eating the local wildlife, there have been
> lots of turkeys around, I let a coupla boys who work for the power
> company hunt a coupla weeks ago on the vast estate and they each got one
> at different times.  Husband of a friend got one too on some of the
> family property up the road, I was visiting their new baby and he was
> cooking it up, frying breast chunks, it was quite tasty.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 4/18/17 3:28 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
> > Being me, I would have asked for the tail at least. Good eating there
> > for a while when added to gumbo.
> >
> > Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> >> http://www.postandcourier.com/news/alligator-climbs-to-a-
> second-story-mount-pleasant-porch-through/article_62f3764c-238a-11e7-9bb4-
> eb7197b7df98.html
> >>
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> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Was there any warning?

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Craig.
>
> Nope. Could not turn the key to off, or anywhere else.
>
> Stop lever and disconnected battery.
>
> Gathering tools, allies and patience.
>
> Ho (Bl**dy )Hum.
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Craig via
> Mercedes 
> Sent: 18 April 2017 19:48
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Craig
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.
>
> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:15:29 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > My '87 300TD is immobile and I'm annoyed.
> >
> > Went to Luke's, we had lunch and returned to his house. Key would not
> > turn off.
>
> I thought the real problem was when you turned it off and needed to turn
> it back on to the #1 position to release the shroud lock.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Craig.

Nope. Could not turn the key to off, or anywhere else.

Stop lever and disconnected battery.

Gathering tools, allies and patience.

Ho (Bl**dy )Hum.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Craig via Mercedes 

Sent: 18 April 2017 19:48
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Cc: Craig
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:15:29 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
 wrote:

> My '87 300TD is immobile and I'm annoyed.
>
> Went to Luke's, we had lunch and returned to his house. Key would not
> turn off.

I thought the real problem was when you turned it off and needed to turn
it back on to the #1 position to release the shroud lock.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Wriggle, shake, twist, usually you can get it to turn one more time.  You only 
need to get it to the #1 position (unlocked but nothing on) to get the tumbler 
out.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What’s wrong with Big Rat Florida?

(I would return to the Midwest before I would live on the east coast of FL, but 
that’s my thing.)

I did the split household thing several times, the last time for over eight 
months.  You can’t imagine how much it sucks.  You can’t quantify it.

-D




> On Apr 18, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> While money is always a consideration it isn't the only consideration here. 
> I'm kind of stuck at work, I like what I do but I'm increasingly 
> disillusioned with whom I do it for. I'm also a little concerned about the 
> long term viability of the company. They've made it pretty clear the office 
> I'm in will be shuttered in the future with all jobs moving to Boca Raton. I 
> will not move to Florida so other options need to be explored.
> Who knows maybe I'll like NY so much I'll want to move there. The job is 
> actually in Englewood Cliffs, NJ, I was wrong before when I said NYC. Its not 
> all that far from the city but a substantial difference. Now that I think of 
> it Angie's cousin has a place down there somewhere, wonder if he'd rent me a 
> room?
> -Curt
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Almost National Bird Wuz: OT Land Shark - low country style

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

First for both. Maine charges you for the turkey tag and then a fee for each 
bird to the point it wasn't worth it. Mass is a $5 tag, register the birds 
online.
A friend would like some turkeys removed from his backyard so its a service to 
him. The season starts a week from yesterday but I won't be able to hunt the 
first day as I forgot to get my mandatory "don't shoot other hunters" safety 
sticker what must be affixed to the barrel of my gun.
-Curt

  From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
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Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 8:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Almost National Bird Wuz: OT Land Shark - low country style
   
Is this your first turkey hunt, or just the first with the BP shotgun? Keep us 
posted.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Almost National Bird Wuz: OT Land Shark - low country style

Good luck!  BP is fun.

> Curt Raymond via Mercedes  April 18, 
> 2017 at 6:12 PM I'll be turkey hunting next week. Got to spend some 
> time with my muzzle loading shotgun last Tuesday. Bit of a humbling 
> experience, I'd thought it was an 18 gauge which is unusual but not 
> unheard of. The muzzle measures .635" which is bigger than 20ga but 
> smaller than 16.I had bought some 18ga wads but they won't hold tight 
> in the barrel so the pellets were falling back out... I used some 
> wadded up newspaper which worked pretty well. I've ordered some 16ga 
> ones that I'll try next week. On paper it patterns well enough with 
> the newspaper that I ought to be able to take out a turkey out to 20 
> yards or so. Hopefully with better wads I'll be able to go farther 
> out.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Almost National Bird Wuz: OT Land Shark - low country style

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Very fun, the shotgun brings a whole extra level to it. I'm pretty good with a 
rifle but figuring out the shotgun has been interesting.The first couple shots 
I fired wouldn't go through the cardboard pizza box I was testing against. I 
knew something was wrong. Before the 3rd shot I heard the pellets moving 
around...
-Curt

  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 8:28 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Almost National Bird Wuz: OT Land Shark - low country style
   
Good luck!  BP is fun.

> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> April 18, 2017 at 6:12 PM
> I'll be turkey hunting next week. Got to spend some time with my 
> muzzle loading shotgun last Tuesday. Bit of a humbling experience, I'd 
> thought it was an 18 gauge which is unusual but not unheard of. The 
> muzzle measures .635" which is bigger than 20ga but smaller than 16.I 
> had bought some 18ga wads but they won't hold tight in the barrel so 
> the pellets were falling back out... I used some wadded up newspaper 
> which worked pretty well. I've ordered some 16ga ones that I'll try 
> next week. On paper it patterns well enough with the newspaper that I 
> ought to be able to take out a turkey out to 20 yards or so. Hopefully 
> with better wads I'll be able to go farther out.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Almost National Bird Wuz: OT Land Shark - low country style

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Is this your first turkey hunt, or just the first with the BP shotgun? Keep us 
posted.

Greg

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Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 5:28 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Almost National Bird Wuz: OT Land Shark - low country style

Good luck!  BP is fun.

> Curt Raymond via Mercedes  April 18, 
> 2017 at 6:12 PM I'll be turkey hunting next week. Got to spend some 
> time with my muzzle loading shotgun last Tuesday. Bit of a humbling 
> experience, I'd thought it was an 18 gauge which is unusual but not 
> unheard of. The muzzle measures .635" which is bigger than 20ga but 
> smaller than 16.I had bought some 18ga wads but they won't hold tight 
> in the barrel so the pellets were falling back out... I used some 
> wadded up newspaper which worked pretty well. I've ordered some 16ga 
> ones that I'll try next week. On paper it patterns well enough with 
> the newspaper that I ought to be able to take out a turkey out to 20 
> yards or so. Hopefully with better wads I'll be able to go farther 
> out.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

While money is always a consideration it isn't the only consideration here. I'm 
kind of stuck at work, I like what I do but I'm increasingly disillusioned with 
whom I do it for. I'm also a little concerned about the long term viability of 
the company. They've made it pretty clear the office I'm in will be shuttered 
in the future with all jobs moving to Boca Raton. I will not move to Florida so 
other options need to be explored.
Who knows maybe I'll like NY so much I'll want to move there. The job is 
actually in Englewood Cliffs, NJ, I was wrong before when I said NYC. Its not 
all that far from the city but a substantial difference. Now that I think of it 
Angie's cousin has a place down there somewhere, wonder if he'd rent me a room?
-Curt

  From: tyee165 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 7:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels
   
How does your wife feel about you being away all week?More to life than money 
etc. 


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 Date: 2017-04-18 5:45 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Curt Raymond  
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels 
Dunno but IDParts sent me an email today saying they could again be sold and 
the repaired cheater diesels are not far behind.
I was thinking I might drive up and see what kind of a deal they'd give me. The 
pickup is nearly paid off and with the cheap money they give you it might be 
worth it.
OTOH I was thinking that I could weld up the Jetta for one more year of 
reasonable operation. It really hasn't cost me much to keep.
On the other, other hand I've been approached about a job in NYC, if it happens 
I'd spend the week there and come home on weekends. I'm not sure about relying 
on the old Jetta for that kind of ride...
-Curt

  From: Peter Hertzing via Mercedes 
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Cc: Peter Hertzing 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 12:20 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels
   
Good Morning all.

Anybody got any idea what the 2015 new Jetta diesels are selling for now
that they have been released for sale?  Got an email from the dealer that
they are available, but they won't give a price over the phone cause they
Suck and are high pressure sales idiots.

Thanks for any insight.
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Re: [MBZ] 1979 RARE MERCEDES BENZ 300D DIESEL MUST SEE ANTIQUE CLASSIC WOW CLEAN $6499

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Hous ton ...  home of the car scammers, and nigerian scammers.


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
April 18, 2017 at 6:56 PM

1979 RARE MERCEDES BENZ 300D DIESEL MUST SEE ANTIQUE CLASSIC WOW CLEAN
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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I use an allen wrench.  I don't have bike spokes.


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
April 18, 2017 at 6:51 PM
Ah, yes, if the key is still in position 1, you can insert 2mm stiff 
wire (bicycle spokes are perfect) in the two holes, then remove the 
collar.




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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yes, I forgot to put that in the prior post.  If it is stuck ON, all you 
need to do is unscrew the kryptonite outer cover that hols in the tumbler.


Then you can turn it on an off with a screwdriver until the new tumbler 
arrives, or dump the wafers out of the old tumbler and put it back in 
forever or until you put the new tumbler in.



Craig via Mercedes 
April 18, 2017 at 6:48 PM
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:15:29 + Fred Moir via Mercedes

I thought the real problem was when you turned it off and needed to turn
it back on to the #1 position to release the shroud lock.


Craig

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[MBZ] Almost National Bird Wuz: OT Land Shark - low country style

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Good luck!  BP is fun.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
April 18, 2017 at 6:12 PM
I'll be turkey hunting next week. Got to spend some time with my 
muzzle loading shotgun last Tuesday. Bit of a humbling experience, I'd 
thought it was an 18 gauge which is unusual but not unheard of. The 
muzzle measures .635" which is bigger than 20ga but smaller than 16.I 
had bought some 18ga wads but they won't hold tight in the barrel so 
the pellets were falling back out... I used some wadded up newspaper 
which worked pretty well. I've ordered some 16ga ones that I'll try 
next week. On paper it patterns well enough with the newspaper that I 
ought to be able to take out a turkey out to 20 yards or so. Hopefully 
with better wads I'll be able to go farther out.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

All you really need to do after what Max said is to drill out the pin 
that holds the steering lock in  Once that pin is released, loosen the 
clamp holding the steering lock on the column; then you remove the whole 
steering lock.  Then you can grind to split off the kryptonite shell 
around the tumbler.


This step can be done in place to make removing the steering lock 
easier, (first choice)  or can be done after you have removed the 
steering lock assembly. (second choice)   If the key is still stuck on, 
remove the 3 screws that hold in the electric switch on.  It will come 
right off if the key is in the "on" position.  If they key is stuck 
"off, the don't do this step until the tumbler is out of the steering 
lock so the steering lock can be turned to the "ON" position so the 
electric switch can be removed.


Here is hoping the vibrating sander works!

Max Dillon via Mercedes 
April 18, 2017 at 6:00 PM
If the vibrator trick doesn't work, and you're prepared to start 
cutting, remove kick panel, instrument cluster, and loosen the two 
bolts holding steering column to dash support. Remove the brace on 
right side of steering column that goes under the ignition / steering 
lock and blocks the access you'll need for cutting.




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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 23:23:01 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I doubt I'd have a place in NYC, I'll probably have a little monk's
> cell in New Jersey, park there and take the train into the city... -Curt

Maybe Jamie could fix you up ...


Craig

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[MBZ] 1979 RARE MERCEDES BENZ 300D DIESEL MUST SEE ANTIQUE CLASSIC WOW CLEAN $6499

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

1979 RARE MERCEDES BENZ 300D DIESEL MUST SEE ANTIQUE CLASSIC WOW CLEAN
http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/6093561112.html

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[MBZ] Nice looking early 560

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Mercedes 560 SEL 1986 w126
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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ah, yes, if the key is still in position 1, you can insert 2mm stiff wire 
(bicycle spokes are perfect) in the two holes, then remove the collar.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 18, 2017 7:48:23 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:15:29 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> My '87 300TD is immobile and I'm annoyed.
>> 
>> Went to Luke's, we had lunch and returned to his house. Key would not
>> turn off.
>
>I thought the real problem was when you turned it off and needed to
>turn
>it back on to the #1 position to release the shroud lock.
>
>
>Craig
>
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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:15:29 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
 wrote:

> My '87 300TD is immobile and I'm annoyed.
> 
> Went to Luke's, we had lunch and returned to his house. Key would not
> turn off.

I thought the real problem was when you turned it off and needed to turn
it back on to the #1 position to release the shroud lock.


Craig

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[MBZ] IDParts [was: Re: OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 22:45:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Dunno but IDParts sent me an email today saying they could again be
> sold and the repaired cheater diesels are not far behind.

I looked up IDParts and found http://www.idparts.com/index.php.

They don't have much for an '82 240D ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1994 Mercedes E320S $500

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> On April 18, 2017 at 7:14 PM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> I know what an E320 is, what is an E320S?


A 320SE with a dyslexic owner. Or maybe a 320SEL, but I doubt it's LWB. 

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Amen to that.

-D


> On Apr 18, 2017, at 7:04 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How does your wife feel about you being away all week?More to life than money 
> etc. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  Date: 2017-04-18  5:45 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
> Discussion List  Cc: Curt Raymond 
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels 
> Dunno but IDParts sent me an email today saying they could again be sold and 
> the repaired cheater diesels are not far behind.
> I was thinking I might drive up and see what kind of a deal they'd give me. 
> The pickup is nearly paid off and with the cheap money they give you it might 
> be worth it.
> OTOH I was thinking that I could weld up the Jetta for one more year of 
> reasonable operation. It really hasn't cost me much to keep.
> On the other, other hand I've been approached about a job in NYC, if it 
> happens I'd spend the week there and come home on weekends. I'm not sure 
> about relying on the old Jetta for that kind of ride...
> -Curt
> 
>   From: Peter Hertzing via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: Peter Hertzing 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 12:20 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels
>
> Good Morning all.
> 
> Anybody got any idea what the 2015 new Jetta diesels are selling for now
> that they have been released for sale?  Got an email from the dealer that
> they are available, but they won't give a price over the phone cause they
> Suck and are high pressure sales idiots.
> 
> Thanks for any insight.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I doubt I'd have a place in NYC, I'll probably have a little monk's cell in New 
Jersey, park there and take the train into the city...
-Curt

  From: Mitch Haley 
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 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels
   

> On April 18, 2017 at 6:45 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> On the other, other hand I've been approached about a job in NYC, if it 
> happens I'd spend the week there and come home on weekends. I'm not sure 
> about relying on the old Jetta for that kind of ride...

You're planning to drive to NYC and park your car there for the work week?
Sounds expensive.

Mitch


   
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 Mercedes E320S $500

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 08:59:06 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Maybe I should pick this up
> 
> 1994 Mercedes E320S
> http://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/6087459685.html

I know what an E320 is, what is an E320S?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Land Shark - low country style

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'll be turkey hunting next week. Got to spend some time with my muzzle loading 
shotgun last Tuesday. Bit of a humbling experience, I'd thought it was an 18 
gauge which is unusual but not unheard of. The muzzle measures .635" which is 
bigger than 20ga but smaller than 16.I had bought some 18ga wads but they won't 
hold tight in the barrel so the pellets were falling back out... I used some 
wadded up newspaper which worked pretty well. I've ordered some 16ga ones that 
I'll try next week. On paper it patterns well enough with the newspaper that I 
ought to be able to take out a turkey out to 20 yards or so. Hopefully with 
better wads I'll be able to go farther out.
-Curt

  From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Land Shark - low country style
   
Speaking of which I was cycling over on Seabrook last week and a 5 
footer ambled across the road in front of me, going from one pond to 
another.

On a related note regarding eating the local wildlife, there have been 
lots of turkeys around, I let a coupla boys who work for the power 
company hunt a coupla weeks ago on the vast estate and they each got one 
at different times.  Husband of a friend got one too on some of the 
family property up the road, I was visiting their new baby and he was 
cooking it up, frying breast chunks, it was quite tasty.

--FT


On 4/18/17 3:28 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
> Being me, I would have asked for the tail at least. Good eating there 
> for a while when added to gumbo.
>
> Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> http://www.postandcourier.com/news/alligator-climbs-to-a-second-story-mount-pleasant-porch-through/article_62f3764c-238a-11e7-9bb4-eb7197b7df98.html
>>  
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

How does your wife feel about you being away all week?More to life than money 
etc. 


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 Date: 2017-04-18  5:45 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Curt Raymond  
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels 
Dunno but IDParts sent me an email today saying they could again be sold and 
the repaired cheater diesels are not far behind.
I was thinking I might drive up and see what kind of a deal they'd give me. The 
pickup is nearly paid off and with the cheap money they give you it might be 
worth it.
OTOH I was thinking that I could weld up the Jetta for one more year of 
reasonable operation. It really hasn't cost me much to keep.
On the other, other hand I've been approached about a job in NYC, if it happens 
I'd spend the week there and come home on weekends. I'm not sure about relying 
on the old Jetta for that kind of ride...
-Curt

  From: Peter Hertzing via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Peter Hertzing 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 12:20 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels
   
Good Morning all.

Anybody got any idea what the 2015 new Jetta diesels are selling for now
that they have been released for sale?  Got an email from the dealer that
they are available, but they won't give a price over the phone cause they
Suck and are high pressure sales idiots.

Thanks for any insight.
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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

If the vibrator trick doesn't work, and you're prepared to start cutting, 
remove kick panel, instrument cluster, and loosen the two bolts holding 
steering column to dash support. Remove the brace on right side of steering 
column that goes under the ignition / steering lock and blocks the access 
you'll need for cutting.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 18, 2017 5:59:56 PM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Max.
>
>Dremel=Yes
>
>Vibrating Tool Thingy=Yes
>
>Cut-off tool=Yes
>
>Assorted bits-'n-bobs=Yes
>
>Patience=Enough (I hope)
>
>BF-Hammers=Lots and lots and lots.
>
>Someone who has experience=Yes. (Thank Hera!)
>
>You may hear me screaming all the way from here.
>
>
>Fred Moir.
>Lynn MA.
>Diesel preferred.
>
>
>
>From: Mercedes  on behalf of Max Dillon
>via Mercedes 
>Sent: 18 April 2017 17:21
>To: Mercedes Discussion List
>Cc: Max Dillon
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.
>
>I'm now an expert in cutting off the recalcitrant bits, standing by if
>needed...
>
>Do you have dremel tool?
>--
>Max Dillon
>Charleston SC
>'87 300TD
>'95 E300
>
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Re: [MBZ] scan tools

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The best scanning tool will always be one that is particular to the vehicle. I 
bought the VCDS cable for my VWs which is outstanding and allows not only 
scanning of issues but changing of parameters like injection timing and 
speedometer offset for different tire sizes.
I know Dan has talked about the MB one in the past and I presume its similar.
-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Randy Bennell 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 12:33 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] scan tools
   
Anyone have any reliable info on scan tools?

We need something better than the basic models. I had a very basic one 
that would show codes and permit resets. I bought a better one that will 
give data when the engine is running etc but it is still not enough.

I am reluctant to spend $1000 plus to get the sort that the shops use. 
Wondered about software that would feed into a laptop but looking online 
does not appear to show me much that would be any less expensive and be 
more useful than what we have.

I told the story about the smoke generator and my son's issues with the 
old Supercrew last week. The smoke did not show any significant vacuum 
leak as suspected. A better scan tool borrowed by a friend  showed a 
misfire on #5 and changing coils seems to have solved the problem. The 
truck did not have a check engine light on and no codes were shown on 
the scan tool that I have., so now a better scan tool is being considered.

My son was reluctant to keep driving it for fear it might do some harm. 
Our scan tool was showing that the fuel trim was off - apparently 
dumping more fuel in as it showed a lean condition.

I now wonder if he had continued to drive it, if it would have 
ultimately produced a code that showed us a misfire on #5. I had some 
issues with that truck years ago relating to the Coils and had to drive 
it a considerable distance on a couple of occasions to get home where I 
could sort it out. Those instances did not appear to do it any harm as 
that is likely 60K miles or more back.

RB



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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On April 18, 2017 at 6:45 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> On the other, other hand I've been approached about a job in NYC, if it 
> happens I'd spend the week there and come home on weekends. I'm not sure 
> about relying on the old Jetta for that kind of ride...

You're planning to drive to NYC and park your car there for the work week?
Sounds expensive.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Dunno but IDParts sent me an email today saying they could again be sold and 
the repaired cheater diesels are not far behind.
I was thinking I might drive up and see what kind of a deal they'd give me. The 
pickup is nearly paid off and with the cheap money they give you it might be 
worth it.
OTOH I was thinking that I could weld up the Jetta for one more year of 
reasonable operation. It really hasn't cost me much to keep.
On the other, other hand I've been approached about a job in NYC, if it happens 
I'd spend the week there and come home on weekends. I'm not sure about relying 
on the old Jetta for that kind of ride...
-Curt

  From: Peter Hertzing via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Peter Hertzing 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 12:20 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels
   
Good Morning all.

Anybody got any idea what the 2015 new Jetta diesels are selling for now
that they have been released for sale?  Got an email from the dealer that
they are available, but they won't give a price over the phone cause they
Suck and are high pressure sales idiots.

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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Max.

Dremel=Yes

Vibrating Tool Thingy=Yes

Cut-off tool=Yes

Assorted bits-'n-bobs=Yes

Patience=Enough (I hope)

BF-Hammers=Lots and lots and lots.

Someone who has experience=Yes. (Thank Hera!)

You may hear me screaming all the way from here.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Max Dillon via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 18 April 2017 17:21
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

I'm now an expert in cutting off the recalcitrant bits, standing by if needed...

Do you have dremel tool?
--
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


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Re: [MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm now an expert in cutting off the recalcitrant bits, standing by if needed...

Do you have dremel tool?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 18, 2017 5:15:29 PM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>My '87 300TD is immobile and I'm annoyed.
>
>Went to Luke's, we had lunch and returned to his house. Key would not
>turn off. The dreaded Lurgy has struck!
>
>It's vibrating key and pray time. (I only hope that I have enough
>quarters).
>
>New key/lock assembly on the way. Fuuudge.
>
>
>Fred Moir.
>Lynn MA.
>Diesel preferred.
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[MBZ] Key shtuff.

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

My '87 300TD is immobile and I'm annoyed.

Went to Luke's, we had lunch and returned to his house. Key would not turn off. 
The dreaded Lurgy has struck!

It's vibrating key and pray time. (I only hope that I have enough quarters).

New key/lock assembly on the way. Fuuudge.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Land Shark - low country style

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Speaking of which I was cycling over on Seabrook last week and a 5 
footer ambled across the road in front of me, going from one pond to 
another.


On a related note regarding eating the local wildlife, there have been 
lots of turkeys around, I let a coupla boys who work for the power 
company hunt a coupla weeks ago on the vast estate and they each got one 
at different times.  Husband of a friend got one too on some of the 
family property up the road, I was visiting their new baby and he was 
cooking it up, frying breast chunks, it was quite tasty.


--FT


On 4/18/17 3:28 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
Being me, I would have asked for the tail at least. Good eating there 
for a while when added to gumbo.


Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/alligator-climbs-to-a-second-story-mount-pleasant-porch-through/article_62f3764c-238a-11e7-9bb4-eb7197b7df98.html 



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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

And what did the re-tune do to it?

RB

On 18/04/2017 1:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Only 5k off sticker? That is not much of a deal. That is pretty routine in the 
auto business. $10-$15k off sticker would be a deal.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 18, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
wrote:

Yes, these are brand-new 2015 TDI diesel's that have never been sold. I have 
decided to take the buyback offer on my 2014 beetle convertible TDI and pick up 
one of these 2015's. I was even able to find one that was the exact same color 
with only 35 miles on it, but it's in Houston!! Road trip!! The price I was 
quoted was $5000 off the sticker if it is financed through VW, and $8000 if it 
is leased!  My nephew and I are flying to Houston next Thursday, and driving it 
home over the weekend. Since I will still have the 2014, I will be able to swap 
over the wheels and upgraded tires to the 2015. I could not pass up the deal!
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

Sent from my cell


On Apr 18, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I have not heard that. So these are new never sold 2015 diesels that have now 
been fixed and can be sold? I would think they would be fairly cheap. Ok don 
should have waited.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Peter Hertzing via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Good Morning all.

Anybody got any idea what the 2015 new Jetta diesels are selling for now
that they have been released for sale?  Got an email from the dealer that
they are available, but they won't give a price over the phone cause they
Suck and are high pressure sales idiots.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[Peter Hertzing via Mercedes]

That is my understanding..  got an email from the dealer...  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have not heard that. So these are new never sold 2015 diesels that have now 
> been fixed and can be sold? I would think they would be fairly cheap. Ok don 
> should have waited.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Peter Hertzing via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Good Morning all.
>> 
>> Anybody got any idea what the 2015 new Jetta diesels are selling for now
>> that they have been released for sale?  Got an email from the dealer that
>> they are available, but they won't give a price over the phone cause they
>> Suck and are high pressure sales idiots.
>> 
>> Thanks for any insight.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

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Only 5k off sticker? That is not much of a deal. That is pretty routine in the 
auto business. $10-$15k off sticker would be a deal.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, these are brand-new 2015 TDI diesel's that have never been sold. I have 
> decided to take the buyback offer on my 2014 beetle convertible TDI and pick 
> up one of these 2015's. I was even able to find one that was the exact same 
> color with only 35 miles on it, but it's in Houston!! Road trip!! The price I 
> was quoted was $5000 off the sticker if it is financed through VW, and $8000 
> if it is leased!  My nephew and I are flying to Houston next Thursday, and 
> driving it home over the weekend. Since I will still have the 2014, I will be 
> able to swap over the wheels and upgraded tires to the 2015. I could not pass 
> up the deal! 
> Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
> 
> Sent from my cell   
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not heard that. So these are new never sold 2015 diesels that have 
>> now been fixed and can be sold? I would think they would be fairly cheap. Ok 
>> don should have waited.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Peter Hertzing via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good Morning all.
>>> 
>>> Anybody got any idea what the 2015 new Jetta diesels are selling for now
>>> that they have been released for sale?  Got an email from the dealer that
>>> they are available, but they won't give a price over the phone cause they
>>> Suck and are high pressure sales idiots.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any insight.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Yes, these are brand-new 2015 TDI diesel's that have never been sold. I have 
decided to take the buyback offer on my 2014 beetle convertible TDI and pick up 
one of these 2015's. I was even able to find one that was the exact same color 
with only 35 miles on it, but it's in Houston!! Road trip!! The price I was 
quoted was $5000 off the sticker if it is financed through VW, and $8000 if it 
is leased!  My nephew and I are flying to Houston next Thursday, and driving it 
home over the weekend. Since I will still have the 2014, I will be able to swap 
over the wheels and upgraded tires to the 2015. I could not pass up the deal! 
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

Sent from my cell   

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have not heard that. So these are new never sold 2015 diesels that have now 
> been fixed and can be sold? I would think they would be fairly cheap. Ok don 
> should have waited.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Peter Hertzing via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Good Morning all.
>> 
>> Anybody got any idea what the 2015 new Jetta diesels are selling for now
>> that they have been released for sale?  Got an email from the dealer that
>> they are available, but they won't give a price over the phone cause they
>> Suck and are high pressure sales idiots.
>> 
>> Thanks for any insight.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Land Shark - low country style

[MG via Mercedes]

Being me, I would have asked for the tail at least. Good eating 
there for a while when added to gumbo.


Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

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[MBZ] OT Land Shark - low country style

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Might be close to a reasonable price.

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I assume you're joking... It's an automatic.

Mittelrot is my favorite Mercedes red - same as  Randy's 300D.

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 1:26 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Oooh, four on the tree - - cool.
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> > That's a good deal
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/17/17 10:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> 1971 MERCEDES 250 C CPE.
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Re: [MBZ] Might be close to a reasonable price.

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Oooh, four on the tree - - cool.

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That's a good deal
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 4/17/17 10:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>>
>> 1971 MERCEDES 250 C CPE.
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>>
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> large or petty,
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> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] scan tools

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Those cheap dongles can read and report various parameters to a 
smartphome app but that might not be enough for what you/he want to do.  
But for the $10 or $15 from chinee sources like DX or banggood it would 
be worth a try.  You can check out the details of the apps too before 
you buy them (they have free basic and paid version with more 
capabilities).  I looked into those a few months back so don't remember 
much about them since it has fallen to the bottom of my stack.


--FT


On 4/18/17 1:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
There is nothing to scan on my Mercedes! At the moment, it does not 
even have a radio in it.
My son is a mechanic and has done some work for friends etc. He was 
able to borrow the scan tool from the shop where he worked 
occasionally but now he works in a secure government shop and cannot 
do that sort of thing. Thus the desire to get something better but a 
reluctance to spend a small fortune. It would need to be able to 
diagnose NA cars and Asian cars but not likely MB Or BMW etc.


RB

On 18/04/2017 11:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

If this is a MB you need to spend the $3-509 for the sds system

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Anyone have any reliable info on scan tools?

We need something better than the basic models. I had a very basic 
one that would show codes and permit resets. I bought a better one 
that will give data when the engine is running etc but it is still 
not enough.


I am reluctant to spend $1000 plus to get the sort that the shops 
use. Wondered about software that would feed into a laptop but 
looking online does not appear to show me much that would be any 
less expensive and be more useful than what we have.


I told the story about the smoke generator and my son's issues with 
the old Supercrew last week. The smoke did not show any significant 
vacuum leak as suspected. A better scan tool borrowed by a friend  
showed a misfire on #5 and changing coils seems to have solved the 
problem. The truck did not have a check engine light on and no codes 
were shown on the scan tool that I have., so now a better scan tool 
is being considered.


My son was reluctant to keep driving it for fear it might do some 
harm. Our scan tool was showing that the fuel trim was off - 
apparently dumping more fuel in as it showed a lean condition.


I now wonder if he had continued to drive it, if it would have 
ultimately produced a code that showed us a misfire on #5. I had 
some issues with that truck years ago relating to the Coils and had 
to drive it a considerable distance on a couple of occasions to get 
home where I could sort it out. Those instances did not appear to do 
it any harm as that is likely 60K miles or more back.


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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] scan tools

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

There is nothing to scan on my Mercedes! At the moment, it does not even 
have a radio in it.
My son is a mechanic and has done some work for friends etc. He was able 
to borrow the scan tool from the shop where he worked occasionally but 
now he works in a secure government shop and cannot do that sort of 
thing. Thus the desire to get something better but a reluctance to spend 
a small fortune. It would need to be able to diagnose NA cars and Asian 
cars but not likely MB Or BMW etc.


RB

On 18/04/2017 11:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

If this is a MB you need to spend the $3-509 for the sds system

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Anyone have any reliable info on scan tools?

We need something better than the basic models. I had a very basic one that 
would show codes and permit resets. I bought a better one that will give data 
when the engine is running etc but it is still not enough.

I am reluctant to spend $1000 plus to get the sort that the shops use. Wondered 
about software that would feed into a laptop but looking online does not appear 
to show me much that would be any less expensive and be more useful than what 
we have.

I told the story about the smoke generator and my son's issues with the old 
Supercrew last week. The smoke did not show any significant vacuum leak as 
suspected. A better scan tool borrowed by a friend  showed a misfire on #5 and 
changing coils seems to have solved the problem. The truck did not have a check 
engine light on and no codes were shown on the scan tool that I have., so now a 
better scan tool is being considered.

My son was reluctant to keep driving it for fear it might do some harm. Our 
scan tool was showing that the fuel trim was off - apparently dumping more fuel 
in as it showed a lean condition.

I now wonder if he had continued to drive it, if it would have ultimately 
produced a code that showed us a misfire on #5. I had some issues with that 
truck years ago relating to the Coils and had to drive it a considerable 
distance on a couple of occasions to get home where I could sort it out. Those 
instances did not appear to do it any harm as that is likely 60K miles or more 
back.

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Re: [MBZ] scan tools

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

If this is a MB you need to spend the $3-509 for the sds system

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anyone have any reliable info on scan tools?
> 
> We need something better than the basic models. I had a very basic one that 
> would show codes and permit resets. I bought a better one that will give data 
> when the engine is running etc but it is still not enough.
> 
> I am reluctant to spend $1000 plus to get the sort that the shops use. 
> Wondered about software that would feed into a laptop but looking online does 
> not appear to show me much that would be any less expensive and be more 
> useful than what we have.
> 
> I told the story about the smoke generator and my son's issues with the old 
> Supercrew last week. The smoke did not show any significant vacuum leak as 
> suspected. A better scan tool borrowed by a friend  showed a misfire on #5 
> and changing coils seems to have solved the problem. The truck did not have a 
> check engine light on and no codes were shown on the scan tool that I have., 
> so now a better scan tool is being considered.
> 
> My son was reluctant to keep driving it for fear it might do some harm. Our 
> scan tool was showing that the fuel trim was off - apparently dumping more 
> fuel in as it showed a lean condition.
> 
> I now wonder if he had continued to drive it, if it would have ultimately 
> produced a code that showed us a misfire on #5. I had some issues with that 
> truck years ago relating to the Coils and had to drive it a considerable 
> distance on a couple of occasions to get home where I could sort it out. 
> Those instances did not appear to do it any harm as that is likely 60K miles 
> or more back.
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have not heard that. So these are new never sold 2015 diesels that have now 
been fixed and can be sold? I would think they would be fairly cheap. Ok don 
should have waited.

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> On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Peter Hertzing via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good Morning all.
> 
> Anybody got any idea what the 2015 new Jetta diesels are selling for now
> that they have been released for sale?  Got an email from the dealer that
> they are available, but they won't give a price over the phone cause they
> Suck and are high pressure sales idiots.
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[MBZ] scan tools

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Anyone have any reliable info on scan tools?

We need something better than the basic models. I had a very basic one 
that would show codes and permit resets. I bought a better one that will 
give data when the engine is running etc but it is still not enough.


I am reluctant to spend $1000 plus to get the sort that the shops use. 
Wondered about software that would feed into a laptop but looking online 
does not appear to show me much that would be any less expensive and be 
more useful than what we have.


I told the story about the smoke generator and my son's issues with the 
old Supercrew last week. The smoke did not show any significant vacuum 
leak as suspected. A better scan tool borrowed by a friend  showed a 
misfire on #5 and changing coils seems to have solved the problem. The 
truck did not have a check engine light on and no codes were shown on 
the scan tool that I have., so now a better scan tool is being considered.


My son was reluctant to keep driving it for fear it might do some harm. 
Our scan tool was showing that the fuel trim was off - apparently 
dumping more fuel in as it showed a lean condition.


I now wonder if he had continued to drive it, if it would have 
ultimately produced a code that showed us a misfire on #5. I had some 
issues with that truck years ago relating to the Coils and had to drive 
it a considerable distance on a couple of occasions to get home where I 
could sort it out. Those instances did not appear to do it any harm as 
that is likely 60K miles or more back.


RB



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[MBZ] OT - 2015 Jetta 2.0 Diesels

[Peter Hertzing via Mercedes]

Good Morning all.

Anybody got any idea what the 2015 new Jetta diesels are selling for now
that they have been released for sale?  Got an email from the dealer that
they are available, but they won't give a price over the phone cause they
Suck and are high pressure sales idiots.

Thanks for any insight.
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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Too many issues so cut your losses.  I'll give you $501 to take it off your
hands.





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> We retirees all need our toys. He'll tire of it eventually and get a new
> toy.
> I'm already getting tired of my Toyota toy. Never needs fixin'. Very
> boring.
> Gerry
>
> Curley McLain wrote:
> > With the hotrod Benz chick magnet, it is
> > Time for Floyd to get acquainted with 3 people:
> > 1.  Gas supplier
> > 2.  Traffic lawyer
> > 3.  Divorce lawyer
> > > Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> > > April 18, 2017 at 10:21 AM
> > > Maybe not, but it is easy to sort of ignore that sort of thing up
> > > front and live to regret it later.
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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

We retirees all need our toys. He'll tire of it eventually and get a new toy.
I'm already getting tired of my Toyota toy. Never needs fixin'. Very boring.
Gerry

Curley McLain wrote:
> With the hotrod Benz chick magnet, it is
> Time for Floyd to get acquainted with 3 people:
> 1.  Gas supplier
> 2.  Traffic lawyer
> 3.  Divorce lawyer
> > Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> > April 18, 2017 at 10:21 AM
> > Maybe not, but it is easy to sort of ignore that sort of thing up 
> > front and live to regret it later.
> >
> > RB
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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Covered on 2 of the 3 on the list.

PO has some kind of new cheap tars on the car which I suppose are fine 
for casual motoring but will need to be made more better for spirited 
driving.


--FT


On 4/18/17 11:49 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Add on a tire dealer.

RB

On 18/04/2017 10:40 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

With the hotrod Benz chick magnet, it is
Time for Floyd to get acquainted with 3 people:
1.  Gas supplier
2.  Traffic lawyer
3.  Divorce lawyer

Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
April 18, 2017 at 10:21 AM
Maybe not, but it is easy to sort of ignore that sort of thing up 
front and live to regret it later.


RB


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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Add on a tire dealer.

RB

On 18/04/2017 10:40 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

With the hotrod Benz chick magnet, it is
Time for Floyd to get acquainted with 3 people:
1.  Gas supplier
2.  Traffic lawyer
3.  Divorce lawyer

Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
April 18, 2017 at 10:21 AM
Maybe not, but it is easy to sort of ignore that sort of thing up 
front and live to regret it later.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

With the hotrod Benz chick magnet, it is
Time for Floyd to get acquainted with 3 people:
1.  Gas supplier
2.  Traffic lawyer
3.  Divorce lawyer

Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
April 18, 2017 at 10:21 AM
Maybe not, but it is easy to sort of ignore that sort of thing up 
front and live to regret it later.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

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Join a Costco if there’s one close by. TopTier fuel and typically $0.20 or more 
less a gallon that other suppliers.

-D


> On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Premium too!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Premium too!

--FT


On 4/18/17 11:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Randy,

You don’t buy a 560SEC if you’re worried about gas mileage….

-D




On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:

On 18/04/2017 8:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

. . . . .

If there was a negative it’s that some of the parts are unique to the chassis, 
like headlights, so finding replacements or Euro versions is tough.  A minor 
issue at best.

-D



Another negative may be the fuel mileage if you keep enjoying that power when 
you stomp on the go pedal.

RB

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never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Maybe not, but it is easy to sort of ignore that sort of thing up front 
and live to regret it later.


RB

On 18/04/2017 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Randy,

You don’t buy a 560SEC if you’re worried about gas mileage….

-D




On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:

On 18/04/2017 8:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

. . . . .

If there was a negative it’s that some of the parts are unique to the chassis, 
like headlights, so finding replacements or Euro versions is tough.  A minor 
issue at best.

-D



Another negative may be the fuel mileage if you keep enjoying that power when 
you stomp on the go pedal.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

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On 18/04/2017 8:33 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
a big German V8!  Went and picked up the 560SEC yesterday, drove into 
town and took the bus up to where it was, drove back to a friend's 
place and got a ride to get my truck in town, so have to figure out 
how to get to the car and get it home.  But driving it a bit I was 
most impressed with how it ran. Feels good to stomp that pedal, a much 
different experience from the SDs fer sure! It's otherwise a bit 
rough, rear shocks seem shot, as it was bouncing a bit.  Front 
suspension seems a bit loose but steering is fairly tight.  Flex disks 
might need changing, I thought I felt a bit of clunking in the 
driveline. But it's driveable so that is OK.  I guess it will be fun 
with a little sorting.


My friend, who knows little to nothing about cars, thought it looked 
pretty cool rolling up.  I do love the style.


Not quite the same thing, but I do understand your response to the 
engine. My F150 has the 5.0 Coyote engine and it sure makes a nice growl 
when I step on the gas a bit harder than normal. I can imagine what that 
must be like in the Mustang. The truck is rated at something like 370 HP 
but I think the Mustang is up to about 415 HP. My son who used to work 
in the shop that did custom work says they had a Mustang that they did 
some work on that was putting out something over 500 HP.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Randy,

You don’t buy a 560SEC if you’re worried about gas mileage….

-D



> On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 18/04/2017 8:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> . . . . .
>> 
>> If there was a negative it’s that some of the parts are unique to the 
>> chassis, like headlights, so finding replacements or Euro versions is tough. 
>>  A minor issue at best.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
> 
> Another negative may be the fuel mileage if you keep enjoying that power when 
> you stomp on the go pedal.
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 18/04/2017 8:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

. . . . .

If there was a negative it’s that some of the parts are unique to the chassis, 
like headlights, so finding replacements or Euro versions is tough.  A minor 
issue at best.

-D




Another negative may be the fuel mileage if you keep enjoying that power 
when you stomp on the go pedal.


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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They will.  Looks like the accumulators are the same across the board:

http://www.mbpartsworld.com/p/__/AIR-CELL/7502688/1233200215.html

-D


> On Apr 18, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if the TD bits will fit.  Will have to check the fluid too.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 4/18/17 10:46 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Then a bouncy rear suspension may be bad accumulators.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I wonder if the TD bits will fit.  Will have to check the fluid too.

--FT


On 4/18/17 10:46 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Then a bouncy rear suspension may be bad accumulators.


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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

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Then a bouncy rear suspension may be bad accumulators.
-- 
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On April 18, 2017 10:18:35 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Not an SLC, an SEC.  And yes, they have SLS.
>
>-D
>
>> On Apr 18, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Do all 560SLC have SLS/accumulators/etc?
>> Mitch. 
>>> On April 18, 2017 at 9:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> rear 
>>> shocks seem shot, as it was bouncing a bit.  Front suspension seems
>a 
>>> bit loose but steering is fairly tight.  Flex disks might need
>changing, 
>>> I thought I felt a bit of clunking in the driveline.  But it's
>driveable 
>>> so that is OK.  I guess it will be fun with a little sorting.
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Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt CVJ Axle - 1st Gen W126

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$100 for the set shipped, or PM me with something to trade W123 or W126 like.

-D


> On Apr 18, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am


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Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt CVJ Axle - 1st Gen W126

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I am


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> On Apr 18, 2017, at 9:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve got a complete set of OM603 lifters, too, if anyone is interested.  I 
> can’t see there being a raging hot market for them.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2017, at 9:27 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> HOW LOW WILL YOU GO?  WILL YOU FINANCE FOR PAYDAY?
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4/17/17 5:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I have a rebuilt axle from CVJ, the premiere axle rebuilder, that fits a 
>>> first gen W126, specifically a 1984 300SD. You need to verify the 
>>> application/fitment with CVJ BEFORE you buy this axle. It's a CVJ part 
>>> number A74310 and fits a 1984 300SD, that I know. What other W126 1st gen 
>>> models it fits I don't know, so this is your responsibility to determine in 
>>> advance.  You can email CVJ with your application information and they’ll 
>>> get back to you typically the same day.  This has the original homokinetic 
>>> "can" style joints - the good original ones, and is an original Mercedes 
>>> axles that CVJ has rebuilt.
>>> 
>>> It’s worth $200 shipped, which precludes return shipping and/or your core 
>>> charge.  I’ll sell it here for $175 shipped if anyone is interested, or 
>>> consider a swap for W123 or W126 stuff of equal value, like a set of W123 
>>> steel wheels and covers…
>>> 
>>> -D
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>> or petty,
>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of 
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Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt CVJ Axle - 1st Gen W126

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I’ve got a complete set of OM603 lifters, too, if anyone is interested.  I 
can’t see there being a raging hot market for them.
 
-D

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 9:27 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> HOW LOW WILL YOU GO?  WILL YOU FINANCE FOR PAYDAY?
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 4/17/17 5:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have a rebuilt axle from CVJ, the premiere axle rebuilder, that fits a 
>> first gen W126, specifically a 1984 300SD. You need to verify the 
>> application/fitment with CVJ BEFORE you buy this axle. It's a CVJ part 
>> number A74310 and fits a 1984 300SD, that I know. What other W126 1st gen 
>> models it fits I don't know, so this is your responsibility to determine in 
>> advance.  You can email CVJ with your application information and they’ll 
>> get back to you typically the same day.  This has the original homokinetic 
>> "can" style joints - the good original ones, and is an original Mercedes 
>> axles that CVJ has rebuilt.
>> 
>> It’s worth $200 shipped, which precludes return shipping and/or your core 
>> charge.  I’ll sell it here for $175 shipped if anyone is interested, or 
>> consider a swap for W123 or W126 stuff of equal value, like a set of W123 
>> steel wheels and covers…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not an SLC, an SEC.  And yes, they have SLS.

-D

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Do all 560SLC have SLS/accumulators/etc?
> Mitch. 
>> On April 18, 2017 at 9:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> rear 
>> shocks seem shot, as it was bouncing a bit.  Front suspension seems a 
>> bit loose but steering is fairly tight.  Flex disks might need changing, 
>> I thought I felt a bit of clunking in the driveline.  But it's driveable 
>> so that is OK.  I guess it will be fun with a little sorting.
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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I mean, SEC, of course. 
Mitch
> On April 18, 2017 at 10:15 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Do all 560SLC have SLS/accumulators/etc?
> Mitch. 
> > On April 18, 2017 at 9:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >  rear 
> > shocks seem shot, as it was bouncing a bit.  Front suspension seems a 
> > bit loose but steering is fairly tight.  Flex disks might need changing, 
> > I thought I felt a bit of clunking in the driveline.  But it's driveable 
> > so that is OK.  I guess it will be fun with a little sorting.
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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Do all 560SLC have SLS/accumulators/etc?
Mitch. 
> On April 18, 2017 at 9:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  rear 
> shocks seem shot, as it was bouncing a bit.  Front suspension seems a 
> bit loose but steering is fairly tight.  Flex disks might need changing, 
> I thought I felt a bit of clunking in the driveline.  But it's driveable 
> so that is OK.  I guess it will be fun with a little sorting.

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Re: [MBZ] I do love me

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I’m telling you the guys on Benzworld that own these are totally nutz about 
them.  It would be cool to have that 5.6 liter engine in a smaller/lighter 
chassis than the sedan.  I suspect you can get pushed back in your seat with 
minimal effort…

If there was a negative it’s that some of the parts are unique to the chassis, 
like headlights, so finding replacements or Euro versions is tough.  A minor 
issue at best.

-D


> On Apr 18, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> a big German V8!  Went and picked up the 560SEC yesterday, drove into town 
> and took the bus up to where it was, drove back to a friend's place and got a 
> ride to get my truck in town, so have to figure out how to get to the car and 
> get it home.  But driving it a bit I was most impressed with how it ran.  
> Feels good to stomp that pedal, a much different experience from the SDs fer 
> sure! It's otherwise a bit rough, rear shocks seem shot, as it was bouncing a 
> bit.  Front suspension seems a bit loose but steering is fairly tight.  Flex 
> disks might need changing, I thought I felt a bit of clunking in the 
> driveline.  But it's driveable so that is OK.  I guess it will be fun with a 
> little sorting.
> 
> My friend, who knows little to nothing about cars, thought it looked pretty 
> cool rolling up.  I do love the style.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
> 
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[MBZ] I do love me

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

a big German V8!  Went and picked up the 560SEC yesterday, drove into 
town and took the bus up to where it was, drove back to a friend's place 
and got a ride to get my truck in town, so have to figure out how to get 
to the car and get it home.  But driving it a bit I was most impressed 
with how it ran.  Feels good to stomp that pedal, a much different 
experience from the SDs fer sure! It's otherwise a bit rough, rear 
shocks seem shot, as it was bouncing a bit.  Front suspension seems a 
bit loose but steering is fairly tight.  Flex disks might need changing, 
I thought I felt a bit of clunking in the driveline.  But it's driveable 
so that is OK.  I guess it will be fun with a little sorting.


My friend, who knows little to nothing about cars, thought it looked 
pretty cool rolling up.  I do love the style.


--
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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt CVJ Axle - 1st Gen W126

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

HOW LOW WILL YOU GO?  WILL YOU FINANCE FOR PAYDAY?

--FT


On 4/17/17 5:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I have a rebuilt axle from CVJ, the premiere axle rebuilder, that fits a first gen W126, 
specifically a 1984 300SD. You need to verify the application/fitment with CVJ BEFORE you 
buy this axle. It's a CVJ part number A74310 and fits a 1984 300SD, that I know. What 
other W126 1st gen models it fits I don't know, so this is your responsibility to 
determine in advance.  You can email CVJ with your application information and they’ll 
get back to you typically the same day.  This has the original homokinetic 
"can" style joints - the good original ones, and is an original Mercedes axles 
that CVJ has rebuilt.

It’s worth $200 shipped, which precludes return shipping and/or your core 
charge.  I’ll sell it here for $175 shipped if anyone is interested, or 
consider a swap for W123 or W126 stuff of equal value, like a set of W123 steel 
wheels and covers…

-D


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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] low rider w220

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That's a feature

--FT


On 4/18/17 1:43 AM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Might be close to a reasonable price.

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's a good deal

--FT


On 4/17/17 10:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


1971 MERCEDES 250 C CPE.
http://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/6092436274.html

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or petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] For Christ sake

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It get 765MPG FCS and its not 75k

--FT


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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Green W123!!

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bulletproof!

--FT


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https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/6060657490.html 


Looking at the number of cars in the background with covers on them, this 
seller is probably pretty good with their cars.

-D
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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Tie rod goodness

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Glad that ended well.  Two alignments ago, I had to replace a tie rod assembly, 
dealer had it in stock for $70.  I was shocked!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 18, 2017 1:52:55 AM EDT, clay via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Been busy with things this weekend, so have not updated the list about
>adventures in tie rod end failure-ish.
>
>I took Polei to the PnP last week and on coming back to the car,
>noticed that the front wheel looked a bit cockeyed.  That was not going
>to be good news.  Not interested in towing it home, so just drove it
>and made an appointment to get an alignment done a day later.  I
>figured since it was going to be up in the air anyway, may as well let
>them do the wrenching to put new tie rods in.
>
>The shop tells me that they have to source the parts, and it might take
>a few days for the stuff to show up, as they are not sure of part
>numbers.  I get on the interwebz and find them useable numbers and tell
>the manager guy that they will be in stock at World Pac, which has a
>warehouse not 17 miles away.  His response was that I had to drag the
>car in the moment they opened so that the tech would have three hours
>to do the install before the alignment appointment.
>
>I got to the shop at the crack of 0800 with a large book for reading. 
>It took the tech less than two hours to get the job done and have me
>driving home.  A bit of the time was spent looking for me so that I
>could see that the bushings for much of the suspension need replacement
>down the road or as soon as I can get my hands on a 20 ton press.
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>clay 
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>2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>1986 SDL - Polei
>1982 300 SD - Allen
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>retired models-
>1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
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