date:20170809

How much to replace the now deployed and worthless airbags?

I'm guessing $1,200 each?

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This went for a hammer price of $2900 today (not absolute auction,
> insurance company may refuse high bid), plus there's about $500 in buyer
> fees from Copart, but in theory that's a lot of car for $3500 plus repairs.
> https://www.copart.com/lot/7937
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[MBZ] Nothing more expensive than a cheap mercedes

2017-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

This went for a hammer price of $2900 today (not absolute auction, insurance 
company may refuse high bid), plus there's about $500 in buyer fees from 
Copart, but in theory that's a lot of car for $3500 plus repairs. 
https://www.copart.com/lot/7937

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Re: [MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!

2017-08-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 12:47:49 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Unfortunately, being sedentary is very unhealthy. There should be some
> sort of pedals in cars, and the speed of the vehicle could be
> proportional to the watts generated by the operator.

There is a big focus on health and exercise in the trucking community.


> A cardiologist friend once did this for his TV. Kids had to pedal like
> all get out to generate enough power to watch. Both of them.

Clever! I presume, also, that when his children needed vaccinations they
were visited in the middle of the night by the shot fairy.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

Donald wrote:
> I can't imagine being married for 15 (or more) years and then living in 600 
> sq. ft.

This widower thinks that space is just fine.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!

2017-08-09 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

Unfortunately, being sedentary is very unhealthy. There should be some sort
of pedals in cars, and the speed of the vehicle could be proportional to
the watts generated by the operator.

A cardiologist friend once did this for his TV. Kids had to pedal like all
get out to generate enough power to watch. Both of them.

On Aug 9, 2017 12:36 PM, "Mountain Man via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> --R wrote:
> > I wonder what that guy's @$$ is like spending 200kmi/yr in a car seat.
> YOW!
>
> List MOM!
> --R is talking racist.
> or --R is talking... something... bad.
> tin.man
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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

--R wrote:
> Yeah we need pics on that thing.  Pics of your whole setup so we can all
> drool on our keyboards.

Craig is what makes me drool.
Build space, rigs, time, $$, dry-clime, etc.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

--R wrote:
> My lunch-time musings, but ideas accepted.  I'm wondering if there would be
> a market for larger "tiny" houses built to a spec that was much better than
> your average single-wide.

TinyHouse fascinates me also.
Lemme be your test market owner / driver.
No $$ here but a wanna be show-off.
Rick has trailer maker next door heard on news today incapable of
filling employment needs - Fox River - saw that name on a neighbor's
$100k motohome.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!

--R wrote:
> I wonder what that guy's @$$ is like spending 200kmi/yr in a car seat.  YOW!

List MOM!
--R is talking racist.
or --R is talking... something... bad.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

Yeah I guess that is it.  But more of the idea that I could build one at 
someplace with a shop space, then move it somewhere onto some land.  Or 
buy some land, put up a nice metal building for a shop, then build it 
from that, out of the   Or sell it, or something, I don't know.  These 
are just musings after seeing stuff about these things, got me wondering 
if there might be a way to build a nicer, larger package that is not 
200ft2.  A 53' trailer could get 400ft2 easy, maybe more with a loft 
space for beds and storage and such.  And if you went to 10' or 12' 
(wide load for the times it moved) you could get 600ft2 which is a 
decent-sized space, and with lofts that would be very cool.  Much better 
than a regular house trailer or RV.


Oh well, ideas...

--R


On 8/9/17 2:11 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

I keep noticing that your "tiny house" is growing with every paragraph -
sounds like you are talking yourself out of a tiny house - you just want
one that you can move . . .



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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

Funny that you mention that.  A friend of mine allowed her niece to park a 
"tiny house" on her property and it caused a great big fight among the 
neighbors and county. 

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Tiny-house-stirs-up-big-controversy-in-Valley-Center-416994813.html

Don Snook 

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From: G Mann [mailto:g2ma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 12:10 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

Just to feed your musings a bit.. one of the semi trailers I have is a 53'
low floor high cube dry van.. it uses 19.5 semi tires [sort of special], is 
8'6" wide, and inside height is 9" ft.

Make that work?  Perhaps a couple of "HGE" slide outs?

The HOA will bitch if you park it in your driveway... I'm sure... ;))


On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < 
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> I have been sorta intrigued by these tiny houses that are becoming 
> popular.  Most of them seem to be built on like a 16ft utility trailer 
> so they can be moved around to a semi-permanent location.  While some 
> of them are pretty nice, it kinda makes me wonder why not just buy a 
> travel trailer or something for cheap and live in that.  But whatever, 
> I kinda like them as they look more like a real house.
>
> I got to thinking about the size issue and it seemed that building one 
> on a larger trailer, like a 3-car hauler or something, would work 
> better.  I see these things that will haul 19k lb, they sit kinda low, 
> 3 axles, gooseneck, so that seems like a better kind of deal, instead 
> of a 8X16ft house you could have say a 8X32ft house on a trailer, 
> pretty much like a narrower single-wide.
>
> This morning I saw this big bus motor home RV thing, it was HUGE!  I'm 
> guessing 12ft tall anyway, probably has 8ft headroom inside and 
> storage bins underneath, big pusher dizzel engine.  But those are 
> quite spendy, even used ones are like $100k or more. I'm guessing 
> those things are like 40ft long, so a lot of room.  I rode in one once 
> that bands used for touring, it was really nice, granite kitchen and marble 
> bathroom etc.
>
> So then I was driving home and was sitting next to a semi with a 
> trailer that said "53ft" on the side, that is pretty big.  I'm 
> guessing the trailer is 8ft wide, and maybe 8ft headroom inside, which 
> is kinda like a shipping container, and people use containers to build 
> houses now.  Containers I think are up to 40ft for a double?  So 
> either a trailer or a container would make a nice "tiny" house too.  
> So then I was thinking one of those low-floor moving van trailers 
> would be even better, more headroom, loft space.  Either buy an old 
> trailer and fix it up, or buy a low-frame (or an equipment hauler low 
> trailer) with the axles and tars and breaks and what not already in 
> place, then build a "tiny" house on that -- more size, more headroom, 
> etc.  And even if you had to buy an old tractor to pull it around, or 
> hire that job out, you could have a larger, nicer "tiny" house than a 
> single-wide. And some of those equipment trailers have wings that fold 
> out to give maybe 12ft wide for a wide load, so that would allow a 
> larger "tiny" house, I guess moving it would require some permit or something 
> but still...
>
> So that got me thinking about how tall a trailer can be, I'm thinking 
> maybe 12ft max to clear bridges and stuff on the road, or can they go 
> a bit higher?  I see those big trailers driving with a pace car with a 
> pole to hit something before the truck would, and warn it off the 
> bridge or whatever.  I guess if you weren't hauling a taller "tiny" 
> house too far you could get by with something taller?
>
> My lunch-time musings, but ideas accepted.  I'm wondering if there 
> would be a market for larger "tiny" houses built to a spec that was 
> much better than your average single-wide.  Make a good lake house, or 
> cabin in the woods, or even a starter home that would be less than 
> buying from a developer or used, esp if someone had a lot?  They could 
> even be designed to gang up to get a bigger house, like a double-wide 
> or even with wings that went off the sides.
>
> --R
>
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Re: [MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!

ESPECIALLY in a Ford Fiesta.  I just did 1000 miles in one day.  It took about 
13.5 hours of actual driving time.  My BMW seats are some of the most 
comfortable I have had.  I can't imagine how thin and plastic the seats in a 
Fiesta are. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Rich Thomas [mailto:richthomas79td...@constructivity.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:38 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!

I wonder what that guy's @$$ is like spending 200kmi/yr in a car seat.  YOW!

--R


On 8/9/17 11:25 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> This is a fascinating story!  It is a story about a guy who is a 
> pharmacy/medical courier.  He drives 200,000 miles per year for his job.   He 
> had a 2011 Ford Fiesta that he drove to 740,000 miles before giving it to his 
> wife to drive.  Read the story and look at what the guy does on an annual 
> basis as far as maintenance!
>
> http://blog.caranddriver.com/really-long-haulin-what-its-like-to-drive-20-miles-per-year/
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

If you shop the market for a bit, you should find a straight frame, 53 ft,
air ride suspension, trailer with "decent tires" for $8,000 or less.

Look for a trailer with an aluminum room, not fiberglass, also. Most of the
fleet haulers retire a trailer after 10 years or so. Expect to do the
brakes, wheel bearings, check the 5th wheel pin and plate for wear before
buying and over all condition.

Most used trailers on the market will have one of two types of rear doors..
garage door roll up, or barn door... expect damage to the doors as normal
on used trailer... New set of barn doors will cost you "around" $3,000
installed..[$1,500 each door. Drivers and loaders damage doors like they
were free by backing them into the dock with the doors not secured open.

102" width is max legal width for trailers.. anything wider takes a wide
load permit every time it's pulled down the road..

Good luck... therapy might be cheaper? ;))


On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This is what I was wondering about.  I see them used for $10-$25k on just
> a cursory search, price seems to depend on  tires, brakes, etc. but that
> wouldn't be a big deal if the unit is going to be mostly stationary.  I
> guess that "standard" height is probably about as tall as the trailer could
> be?  9ft inside height would probably put the overall height at 11ft or
> so?  No wait I see 13'6" overall height on some of these, not sure what
> floor height is. http://www.commercialtrucktrad
> er.com/Kentucky-Trailers-For-Sale/search-results?make=
> KENTUCKY%7C2312124&type=trailer there appear to be this manufacturers
> used ones readily available, I guess this is like yours?  Some of them have
> side doors already built in, you could put some nice slides in there, or
> sliding glass doors, or back another one up to the opening to make a side
> wing.
>
> I am going to talk myself into this idea...  get a workshop space and
> start building...
>
> Hey Max I wonder if Catherine would mind pulling a trailer up to the barn
> to start a build-out???
>
> --R
>
>
> On 8/9/17 1:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Just to feed your musings a bit.. one of the semi trailers I have is a 53'
>> low floor high cube dry van.. it uses 19.5 semi tires [sort of special],
>> is
>> 8'6" wide, and inside height is 9" ft.
>>
>> Make that work?  Perhaps a couple of "HGE" slide outs?
>>
>> The HOA will bitch if you park it in your driveway... I'm sure... ;))
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have been sorta intrigued by these tiny houses that are becoming
>>> popular.  Most of them seem to be built on like a 16ft utility trailer so
>>> they can be moved around to a semi-permanent location.  While some of
>>> them
>>> are pretty nice, it kinda makes me wonder why not just buy a travel
>>> trailer
>>> or something for cheap and live in that.  But whatever, I kinda like them
>>> as they look more like a real house.
>>>
>>> I got to thinking about the size issue and it seemed that building one on
>>> a larger trailer, like a 3-car hauler or something, would work better.  I
>>> see these things that will haul 19k lb, they sit kinda low, 3 axles,
>>> gooseneck, so that seems like a better kind of deal, instead of a 8X16ft
>>> house you could have say a 8X32ft house on a trailer, pretty much like a
>>> narrower single-wide.
>>>
>>> This morning I saw this big bus motor home RV thing, it was HUGE!  I'm
>>> guessing 12ft tall anyway, probably has 8ft headroom inside and storage
>>> bins underneath, big pusher dizzel engine.  But those are quite spendy,
>>> even used ones are like $100k or more. I'm guessing those things are like
>>> 40ft long, so a lot of room.  I rode in one once that bands used for
>>> touring, it was really nice, granite kitchen and marble bathroom etc.
>>>
>>> So then I was driving home and was sitting next to a semi with a trailer
>>> that said "53ft" on the side, that is pretty big.  I'm guessing the
>>> trailer
>>> is 8ft wide, and maybe 8ft headroom inside, which is kinda like a
>>> shipping
>>> container, and people use containers to build houses now.  Containers I
>>> think are up to 40ft for a double?  So either a trailer or a container
>>> would make a nice "tiny" house too.  So then I was thinking one of those
>>> low-floor moving van trailers would be even better, more headroom, loft
>>> space.  Either buy an old trailer and fix it up, or buy a low-frame (or
>>> an
>>> equipment hauler low trailer) with the axles and tars and breaks and what
>>> not already in place, then build a "tiny" house on that -- more size,
>>> more
>>> headroom, etc.  And even if you had to buy an old tractor to pull it
>>> around, or hire that job out, you could have a larger, nicer "tiny" house
>>> than a single-wide. And some of those equipment trailers have wings that
>>> fold out to give maybe 12ft wide for a wide load, so that would allo

Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

I saw a show on a young couple that bought an old school bus and turned it into 
a tiny house/RV.  They called it a tiny house, but it still had the 
engine/running gear so I would call it an RV.  They did it pretty well.  Wood 
floors, granite countertops, etc.   But, the only people I have ever seen 
living in the tiny houses are very young couples or a young person.  I can't 
imagine being married for 15 (or more) years and then living in 600 sq. ft.  I 
would be claustrophobic.  But, I guess if one is 25 years old and doesn't have 
a lot of stuff, it could be fun.   Most of the people I have seen that like are 
exceptionally organized.  I think you would have to be.  

My wife's dad bought an old school bus and turned it into an RV.  He didn't 
bother with a toilet or shower.  But, it did have a small sink and beds and 
some sort of generator to run everything. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Rich Thomas [mailto:richthomas79td...@constructivity.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:59 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

I have been sorta intrigued by these tiny houses that are becoming popular.  
Most of them seem to be built on like a 16ft utility trailer so they can be 
moved around to a semi-permanent location.  While some of them are pretty nice, 
it kinda makes me wonder why not just buy a travel trailer or something for 
cheap and live in that.  But whatever, I kinda like them as they look more like 
a real house.

I got to thinking about the size issue and it seemed that building one on a 
larger trailer, like a 3-car hauler or something, would work better.  I see 
these things that will haul 19k lb, they sit kinda low, 3 axles, gooseneck, so 
that seems like a better kind of deal, instead of a 8X16ft house you could have 
say a 8X32ft house on a trailer, pretty much like a narrower single-wide.

This morning I saw this big bus motor home RV thing, it was HUGE!  I'm guessing 
12ft tall anyway, probably has 8ft headroom inside and storage bins underneath, 
big pusher dizzel engine.  But those are quite spendy, even used ones are like 
$100k or more. I'm guessing those things are like 40ft long, so a lot of room.  
I rode in one once that bands used for touring, it was really nice, granite 
kitchen and marble bathroom etc.

So then I was driving home and was sitting next to a semi with a trailer that 
said "53ft" on the side, that is pretty big.  I'm guessing the trailer is 8ft 
wide, and maybe 8ft headroom inside, which is kinda like a shipping container, 
and people use containers to build houses now.  
Containers I think are up to 40ft for a double?  So either a trailer or a 
container would make a nice "tiny" house too.  So then I was thinking one of 
those low-floor moving van trailers would be even better, more headroom, loft 
space.  Either buy an old trailer and fix it up, or buy a low-frame (or an 
equipment hauler low trailer) with the axles and tars and breaks and what not 
already in place, then build a "tiny" house on that -- more size, more 
headroom, etc.  And even if you had to buy an old tractor to pull it around, or 
hire that job out, you could have a larger, nicer "tiny" house than a 
single-wide. And some of those equipment trailers have wings that fold out to 
give maybe 12ft wide for a wide load, so that would allow a larger "tiny" 
house, I guess moving it would require some permit or something but still...

So that got me thinking about how tall a trailer can be, I'm thinking maybe 
12ft max to clear bridges and stuff on the road, or can they go a bit higher?  
I see those big trailers driving with a pace car with a pole to hit something 
before the truck would, and warn it off the bridge or whatever.  I guess if you 
weren't hauling a taller "tiny" house too far you could get by with something 
taller?

My lunch-time musings, but ideas accepted.  I'm wondering if there would be a 
market for larger "tiny" houses built to a spec that was much better than your 
average single-wide.  Make a good lake house, or cabin in the woods, or even a 
starter home that would be less than buying from a developer or used, esp if 
someone had a lot?  They could even be designed to gang up to get a bigger 
house, like a double-wide or even with wings that went off the sides.

--R




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Re: [MBZ] Synthetic versus Dino Oil

Another timely find:

"Synthetic or conventional oil? The verdict is finally in"

though it is a fluff piece with no real information.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/ownership/synthetic-or-conventional-oil-the-verdict-is-finally-in/ar-BBEs0Bw?li=BBnb7Kz

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> I use synthetic in the cars because VW requires it but also because they
> get 10,000 mile oil changes. The Golf gets Lubrimoly 4100 as it meets the
> proper VW spec, the Jetta is older and M1 5w40 is good enough for it.
>
> The pickup used to get M1 but last year I changed to the Valvoline quickie
> change place which I think I like better. I argued that Valvoline was the
> only FLAPS available oil that met the VW spec for the Golf it must be okay
> stuff and good enough for the pickup. Thats at 5,000 miles now, I'll pull a
> sample before it gets changed in the fall and see where its at.My pickup,
> like OK Don's sits a fair amount but when it works it works hard in bad
> conditions so synthetic is a good choice.
> If I were using conventional oil I'd keep the change intervals short, but
> I prefer to be driving rather than changing the oil. I think the cost of my
> time and a quality filter more than makes up for the extra cost of the oil.
> -Curt
>
>
>   From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
>  Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 4:42 AM
>  Subject: [MBZ] Synthetic versus Dino Oil
>
>
> Many automakers require owners to use synthetic motor oil in their cars’
> engines. This is because synthetic oil has some advantages over
> conventional motor oil. It’s designed to be more effective at:
>
> Resisting break-down, and thus lasts longer than mineral oil
> Withstanding high temperatures
> Flowing in cold temperatures, thus reducing engine wear during frigid
> startups.
>
> However, synthetic motor oil can cost two to four times as much as regular
> oil. So unless your owner's manual specifies synthetic, you don’t need it.
> But Consumer Reports’ chief mechanic says there are some situations where
> synthetic oil’s resistance to breakdown can help prolong the life of an
> engine.
>
> If you make lots of short trips, standard motor oil may never get warm
> enough to burn off moisture and impurities. That could hasten the breakdown
> of conventional oil. Also, if you live in a region with very cold winters
> or very hot summers, or if you use your vehicle for towing or hauling heavy
> material, synthetic oil won’t break down as quickly. While synthetic
> generally holds up better and can serve for more miles, it is important to
> not extend oil changes beyond the time interval recommended by the
> manufacturer—typically six months or a year.
>
> Another good use for synthetic oil is as a salve for older engines prone
> to sludge buildup. This gunky residue can block oil passages and lead to a
> quick death of an engine. In the early 2000s, several engines from
> Chrysler, Toyota, and Volkswagen, among others, were especially prone to
> sludge buildup. This sludge forms when oil breaks down. Synthetic oil would
> be beneficial in those engines, as it is less likely to form troublesome
> sludge.
>
> Using synthetic in these situations will prolong your oil life and require
> fewer changes. That’s a major benefit to the environment, as used motor oil
> is a major source of toxic waste in water. Your pocketbook will also thank
> you.
>
> https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2015/07/when-
> should-you-consider-synthetic-oil/index.htm
> 
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

2017-08-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 13:21:34 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 wrote:

> http://www.commercialtrucktrader.com/Kentucky-Trailers-For-Sale/search-results?make=KENTUCKY%7C2312124&type=trailer
>  
> there appear to be this manufacturers used ones readily available

Our drop-frame furniture van was made by Kentucky.

> Some of them have side doors already built in, you could put some nice
> slides in there, or sliding glass doors, or back another one up to the
> opening to make a side wing.

Interesting ideas.

Our furniture van has 2 double doors roadside, 4 double doors curbside.
With the addition of an upper deck to ours, some of those doors are not
operable.

The upper deck is shown in photographs attached to my reply to your first
message, which has yet to be approved.

> I am going to talk myself into this idea...  get a workshop space and 
> start building...
> 
> Hey Max I wonder if Catherine would mind pulling a trailer up to the 
> barn to start a build-out???

Interesting -- ask her and find out ...

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

Just saws this headline:
"People Are Seriously Regretting Buying Tiny Houses"
http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/home-and-garden/people-are-seriously-regretting-buying-tiny-houses/ar-AAoyvMj?li=BBnb7Kz

We lived in a 10X45 mobile home when we got married, and for another 10
months after our first child was born. It was fine, until the kids started
coming . . . .

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:11 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> I keep noticing that your "tiny house" is growing with every paragraph -
> sounds like you are talking yourself out of a tiny house - you just want
> one that you can move . . .
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I have been sorta intrigued by these tiny houses that are becoming
>> popular.  Most of them seem to be built on like a 16ft utility trailer so
>> they can be moved around to a semi-permanent location.  While some of them
>> are pretty nice, it kinda makes me wonder why not just buy a travel trailer
>> or something for cheap and live in that.  But whatever, I kinda like them
>> as they look more like a real house.
>>
>> I got to thinking about the size issue and it seemed that building one on
>> a larger trailer, like a 3-car hauler or something, would work better.  I
>> see these things that will haul 19k lb, they sit kinda low, 3 axles,
>> gooseneck, so that seems like a better kind of deal, instead of a 8X16ft
>> house you could have say a 8X32ft house on a trailer, pretty much like a
>> narrower single-wide.
>>
>> This morning I saw this big bus motor home RV thing, it was HUGE!  I'm
>> guessing 12ft tall anyway, probably has 8ft headroom inside and storage
>> bins underneath, big pusher dizzel engine.  But those are quite spendy,
>> even used ones are like $100k or more. I'm guessing those things are like
>> 40ft long, so a lot of room.  I rode in one once that bands used for
>> touring, it was really nice, granite kitchen and marble bathroom etc.
>>
>> So then I was driving home and was sitting next to a semi with a trailer
>> that said "53ft" on the side, that is pretty big.  I'm guessing the trailer
>> is 8ft wide, and maybe 8ft headroom inside, which is kinda like a shipping
>> container, and people use containers to build houses now.  Containers I
>> think are up to 40ft for a double?  So either a trailer or a container
>> would make a nice "tiny" house too.  So then I was thinking one of those
>> low-floor moving van trailers would be even better, more headroom, loft
>> space.  Either buy an old trailer and fix it up, or buy a low-frame (or an
>> equipment hauler low trailer) with the axles and tars and breaks and what
>> not already in place, then build a "tiny" house on that -- more size, more
>> headroom, etc.  And even if you had to buy an old tractor to pull it
>> around, or hire that job out, you could have a larger, nicer "tiny" house
>> than a single-wide. And some of those equipment trailers have wings that
>> fold out to give maybe 12ft wide for a wide load, so that would allow a
>> larger "tiny" house, I guess moving it would require some permit or
>> something but still...
>>
>> So that got me thinking about how tall a trailer can be, I'm thinking
>> maybe 12ft max to clear bridges and stuff on the road, or can they go a bit
>> higher?  I see those big trailers driving with a pace car with a pole to
>> hit something before the truck would, and warn it off the bridge or
>> whatever.  I guess if you weren't hauling a taller "tiny" house too far you
>> could get by with something taller?
>>
>> My lunch-time musings, but ideas accepted.  I'm wondering if there would
>> be a market for larger "tiny" houses built to a spec that was much better
>> than your average single-wide.  Make a good lake house, or cabin in the
>> woods, or even a starter home that would be less than buying from a
>> developer or used, esp if someone had a lot?  They could even be designed
>> to gang up to get a bigger house, like a double-wide or even with wings
>> that went off the sides.
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>>
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
> fence for themselves."
>
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>



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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

I keep noticing that your "tiny house" is growing with every paragraph -
sounds like you are talking yourself out of a tiny house - you just want
one that you can move . . .

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have been sorta intrigued by these tiny houses that are becoming
> popular.  Most of them seem to be built on like a 16ft utility trailer so
> they can be moved around to a semi-permanent location.  While some of them
> are pretty nice, it kinda makes me wonder why not just buy a travel trailer
> or something for cheap and live in that.  But whatever, I kinda like them
> as they look more like a real house.
>
> I got to thinking about the size issue and it seemed that building one on
> a larger trailer, like a 3-car hauler or something, would work better.  I
> see these things that will haul 19k lb, they sit kinda low, 3 axles,
> gooseneck, so that seems like a better kind of deal, instead of a 8X16ft
> house you could have say a 8X32ft house on a trailer, pretty much like a
> narrower single-wide.
>
> This morning I saw this big bus motor home RV thing, it was HUGE!  I'm
> guessing 12ft tall anyway, probably has 8ft headroom inside and storage
> bins underneath, big pusher dizzel engine.  But those are quite spendy,
> even used ones are like $100k or more. I'm guessing those things are like
> 40ft long, so a lot of room.  I rode in one once that bands used for
> touring, it was really nice, granite kitchen and marble bathroom etc.
>
> So then I was driving home and was sitting next to a semi with a trailer
> that said "53ft" on the side, that is pretty big.  I'm guessing the trailer
> is 8ft wide, and maybe 8ft headroom inside, which is kinda like a shipping
> container, and people use containers to build houses now.  Containers I
> think are up to 40ft for a double?  So either a trailer or a container
> would make a nice "tiny" house too.  So then I was thinking one of those
> low-floor moving van trailers would be even better, more headroom, loft
> space.  Either buy an old trailer and fix it up, or buy a low-frame (or an
> equipment hauler low trailer) with the axles and tars and breaks and what
> not already in place, then build a "tiny" house on that -- more size, more
> headroom, etc.  And even if you had to buy an old tractor to pull it
> around, or hire that job out, you could have a larger, nicer "tiny" house
> than a single-wide. And some of those equipment trailers have wings that
> fold out to give maybe 12ft wide for a wide load, so that would allow a
> larger "tiny" house, I guess moving it would require some permit or
> something but still...
>
> So that got me thinking about how tall a trailer can be, I'm thinking
> maybe 12ft max to clear bridges and stuff on the road, or can they go a bit
> higher?  I see those big trailers driving with a pace car with a pole to
> hit something before the truck would, and warn it off the bridge or
> whatever.  I guess if you weren't hauling a taller "tiny" house too far you
> could get by with something taller?
>
> My lunch-time musings, but ideas accepted.  I'm wondering if there would
> be a market for larger "tiny" houses built to a spec that was much better
> than your average single-wide.  Make a good lake house, or cabin in the
> woods, or even a starter home that would be less than buying from a
> developer or used, esp if someone had a lot?  They could even be designed
> to gang up to get a bigger house, like a double-wide or even with wings
> that went off the sides.
>
> --R
>
>
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!

That million mile taxi in Greece was used commercially, and MB gave the guy
a new car . . .

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I doubt Mercedes would give him a new free car.  This car has been used
> for commercial purposes.
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Meade Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:39 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!
>
> I totally agree with the comment that Ford should have given him a free
> car when he retired the Fiesta.  I'm pretty sure that MB still does that
> for original owners, this dude should have gone that route with an E-class
> diesel (better mileage, more room, more comfort) and then his next MB would
> have been free.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > This is a fascinating story!  It is a story about a guy who is a
> > pharmacy/medical courier.  He drives 200,000 miles per year for his job.
> >  He had a 2011 Ford Fiesta that he drove to 740,000 miles before
> > giving it to his wife to drive.  Read the story and look at what the
> > guy does on an annual basis as far as maintenance!
> >
> > http://blog.caranddriver.com/really-long-haulin-what-its-
> > like-to-drive-20-miles-per-year/
> >
> >
> > Donald H. Snook
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

LOL, I think you need to wrap up some of your 126 projects before starting
another.

There's a tiny house on a trailer for sale on the street close to where I
work, looks totally cheap cheap to me, from the outside.

If I were to invest time & money on an alternate living arrangement, it
would be a large steel-hulled yacht.  I'd much prefer to be able to move
around the globe at will.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hey Max I wonder if Catherine would mind pulling a trailer up to the barn
> to start a build-out???
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

Yeah we need pics on that thing.  Pics of your whole setup so we can all 
drool on our keyboards.


--R


On 8/9/17 1:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks for asking. been busy building out the workshop at the Ranch..
120'X70'X14' eve height... once it's up... will attack the build full time.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


How's that MB bus coming along?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
Just to feed your musings a bit.. one of the semi trailers I have is a

53'

low floor high cube dry van.. it uses 19.5 semi tires [sort of special],

is

8'6" wide, and inside height is 9" ft.

Make that work?  Perhaps a couple of "HGE" slide outs?

The HOA will bitch if you park it in your driveway... I'm sure... ;))



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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

This is what I was wondering about. I see them used for $10-$25k on
just a cursory search, price seems to depend on tires, brakes, etc. but
that wouldn't be a big deal if the unit is going to be mostly
stationary. I guess that "standard" height is probably about as tall as
the trailer could be? 9ft inside height would probably put the overall
height at 11ft or so? No wait I see 13'6" overall height on some of
these, not sure what floor height is.
http://www.commercialtrucktrader.com/Kentucky-Trailers-For-Sale/search-results?make=KENTUCKY%7C2312124&type=trailer
there appear to be this manufacturers used ones readily available, I
guess this is like yours? Some of them have side doors already built
in, you could put some nice slides in there, or sliding glass doors, or
back another one up to the opening to make a side wing.

I am going to talk myself into this idea... get a workshop space and
start building...

Hey Max I wonder if Catherine would mind pulling a trailer up to the
barn to start a build-out???

--R

On 8/9/17 1:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Just to feed your musings a bit.. one of the semi trailers I have is a 53'
low floor high cube dry van.. it uses 19.5 semi tires [sort of special], is
8'6" wide, and inside height is 9" ft.

Make that work? Perhaps a couple of "HGE" slide outs?

The HOA will bitch if you park it in your driveway... I'm sure... ;))

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I have been sorta intrigued by these tiny houses that are becoming
popular. Most of them seem to be built on like a 16ft utility trailer so
they can be moved around to a semi-permanent location. While some of them
are pretty nice, it kinda makes me wonder why not just buy a travel trailer
or something for cheap and live in that. But whatever, I kinda like them
as they look more like a real house.

I got to thinking about the size issue and it seemed that building one on
a larger trailer, like a 3-car hauler or something, would work better. I
see these things that will haul 19k lb, they sit kinda low, 3 axles,
gooseneck, so that seems like a better kind of deal, instead of a 8X16ft
house you could have say a 8X32ft house on a trailer, pretty much like a
narrower single-wide.

This morning I saw this big bus motor home RV thing, it was HUGE! I'm
guessing 12ft tall anyway, probably has 8ft headroom inside and storage
bins underneath, big pusher dizzel engine. But those are quite spendy,
even used ones are like $100k or more. I'm guessing those things are like
40ft long, so a lot of room. I rode in one once that bands used for
touring, it was really nice, granite kitchen and marble bathroom etc.

So then I was driving home and was sitting next to a semi with a trailer
that said "53ft" on the side, that is pretty big. I'm guessing the trailer
is 8ft wide, and maybe 8ft headroom inside, which is kinda like a shipping
container, and people use containers to build houses now. Containers I
think are up to 40ft for a double? So either a trailer or a container
would make a nice "tiny" house too. So then I was thinking one of those
low-floor moving van trailers would be even better, more headroom, loft
space. Either buy an old trailer and fix it up, or buy a low-frame (or an
equipment hauler low trailer) with the axles and tars and breaks and what
not already in place, then build a "tiny" house on that -- more size, more
headroom, etc. And even if you had to buy an old tractor to pull it
around, or hire that job out, you could have a larger, nicer "tiny" house
than a single-wide. And some of those equipment trailers have wings that
fold out to give maybe 12ft wide for a wide load, so that would allow a
larger "tiny" house, I guess moving it would require some permit or
something but still...

So that got me thinking about how tall a trailer can be, I'm thinking
maybe 12ft max to clear bridges and stuff on the road, or can they go a bit
higher? I see those big trailers driving with a pace car with a pole to
hit something before the truck would, and warn it off the bridge or
whatever. I guess if you weren't hauling a taller "tiny" house too far you
could get by with something taller?

My lunch-time musings, but ideas accepted. I'm wondering if there would
be a market for larger "tiny" houses built to a spec that was much better
than your average single-wide. Make a good lake house, or cabin in the
woods, or even a starter home that would be less than buying from a
developer or used, esp if someone had a lot? They could even be designed
to gang up to get a bigger house, like a double-wide or even with wings
that went off the sides.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Another note on oil

Not bad for 65 years old...I forgot to mention I've been using "Traveler" brand 
15w40 from Tractor Supply. The only reason for that choice is that its the 
cheapest option, comes in 2.5 gallon jugs. Slightly cheaper to buy 5 gallons at 
a time but much more annoying to handle the big bucket.This year I screwed up 
and put the used oil in my last 1 gallon bottle before I filled the tractor. 
Had to laboriously fill 1qt bottles... I'll bring a 1 gallon bottle from home 
next time I go up.

-Curt


  From: Meade Dillon 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes  
 Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 1:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another note on oil
   
That works!  Looks like a pretty clean engine to me.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

Gall-dang Google and their sharing settings...
Try: https://goo.gl/photos/ AETJhEx8LH11mKKJ7
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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

Thanks for asking. been busy building out the workshop at the Ranch..
120'X70'X14' eve height... once it's up... will attack the build full time.

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> How's that MB bus coming along?
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > Just to feed your musings a bit.. one of the semi trailers I have is a
> 53'
> > low floor high cube dry van.. it uses 19.5 semi tires [sort of special],
> is
> > 8'6" wide, and inside height is 9" ft.
> >
> > Make that work?  Perhaps a couple of "HGE" slide outs?
> >
> > The HOA will bitch if you park it in your driveway... I'm sure... ;))
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!

2017-08-09 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

And they have Bostrom seats or the equivalent, too. Big difference between that 
and what's in a car.

-D

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 150k/year is a good score for a trucker, average is probably closer to 120k 
> for long haul. 
> Most fleets, averaging 3k a week makes you a star performer. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

BTW... I also have "one of those big buses" you mentioned... 40' long X
8'6" wide X 11:4" tall with huge baggage bays in the bottom, originally
configured for 53 passengers.. now being converted to a luxury apartment on
wheels...
Made by Mercedes.. so part of the "Mercedes fleet".

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Craig is way ahead of you, already has his commercial trunk driver's (CDL?)
> license, bought the truck and trailer, and is turning the trailer into a
> moving / storage thing.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I have been sorta intrigued by these tiny houses that are becoming
> > popular.  Most of them seem to be built on like a 16ft utility trailer so
> > they can be moved around to a semi-permanent location.  While some of
> them
> > are pretty nice, it kinda makes me wonder why not just buy a travel
> trailer
> > or something for cheap and live in that.  But whatever, I kinda like them
> > as they look more like a real house.
> >
> > I got to thinking about the size issue and it seemed that building one on
> > a larger trailer, like a 3-car hauler or something, would work better.  I
> > see these things that will haul 19k lb, they sit kinda low, 3 axles,
> > gooseneck, so that seems like a better kind of deal, instead of a 8X16ft
> > house you could have say a 8X32ft house on a trailer, pretty much like a
> > narrower single-wide.
> >
> > This morning I saw this big bus motor home RV thing, it was HUGE!  I'm
> > guessing 12ft tall anyway, probably has 8ft headroom inside and storage
> > bins underneath, big pusher dizzel engine.  But those are quite spendy,
> > even used ones are like $100k or more. I'm guessing those things are like
> > 40ft long, so a lot of room.  I rode in one once that bands used for
> > touring, it was really nice, granite kitchen and marble bathroom etc.
> >
> > So then I was driving home and was sitting next to a semi with a trailer
> > that said "53ft" on the side, that is pretty big.  I'm guessing the
> trailer
> > is 8ft wide, and maybe 8ft headroom inside, which is kinda like a
> shipping
> > container, and people use containers to build houses now.  Containers I
> > think are up to 40ft for a double?  So either a trailer or a container
> > would make a nice "tiny" house too.  So then I was thinking one of those
> > low-floor moving van trailers would be even better, more headroom, loft
> > space.  Either buy an old trailer and fix it up, or buy a low-frame (or
> an
> > equipment hauler low trailer) with the axles and tars and breaks and what
> > not already in place, then build a "tiny" house on that -- more size,
> more
> > headroom, etc.  And even if you had to buy an old tractor to pull it
> > around, or hire that job out, you could have a larger, nicer "tiny" house
> > than a single-wide. And some of those equipment trailers have wings that
> > fold out to give maybe 12ft wide for a wide load, so that would allow a
> > larger "tiny" house, I guess moving it would require some permit or
> > something but still...
> >
> > So that got me thinking about how tall a trailer can be, I'm thinking
> > maybe 12ft max to clear bridges and stuff on the road, or can they go a
> bit
> > higher?  I see those big trailers driving with a pace car with a pole to
> > hit something before the truck would, and warn it off the bridge or
> > whatever.  I guess if you weren't hauling a taller "tiny" house too far
> you
> > could get by with something taller?
> >
> > My lunch-time musings, but ideas accepted.  I'm wondering if there would
> > be a market for larger "tiny" houses built to a spec that was much better
> > than your average single-wide.  Make a good lake house, or cabin in the
> > woods, or even a starter home that would be less than buying from a
> > developer or used, esp if someone had a lot?  They could even be designed
> > to gang up to get a bigger house, like a double-wide or even with wings
> > that went off the sides.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

How's that MB bus coming along?

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On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Just to feed your musings a bit.. one of the semi trailers I have is a 53'
> low floor high cube dry van.. it uses 19.5 semi tires [sort of special], is
> 8'6" wide, and inside height is 9" ft.
>
> Make that work?  Perhaps a couple of "HGE" slide outs?
>
> The HOA will bitch if you park it in your driveway... I'm sure... ;))
>
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Re: [MBZ] Another note on oil

That works!  Looks like a pretty clean engine to me.

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On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Gall-dang Google and their sharing settings...
>
> Try: https://goo.gl/photos/AETJhEx8LH11mKKJ7
>
> and: https://goo.gl/photos/VUA7SU7UkMNSfSis7
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

Just to feed your musings a bit.. one of the semi trailers I have is a 53'
low floor high cube dry van.. it uses 19.5 semi tires [sort of special], is
8'6" wide, and inside height is 9" ft.

Make that work?  Perhaps a couple of "HGE" slide outs?

The HOA will bitch if you park it in your driveway... I'm sure... ;))


On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have been sorta intrigued by these tiny houses that are becoming
> popular.  Most of them seem to be built on like a 16ft utility trailer so
> they can be moved around to a semi-permanent location.  While some of them
> are pretty nice, it kinda makes me wonder why not just buy a travel trailer
> or something for cheap and live in that.  But whatever, I kinda like them
> as they look more like a real house.
>
> I got to thinking about the size issue and it seemed that building one on
> a larger trailer, like a 3-car hauler or something, would work better.  I
> see these things that will haul 19k lb, they sit kinda low, 3 axles,
> gooseneck, so that seems like a better kind of deal, instead of a 8X16ft
> house you could have say a 8X32ft house on a trailer, pretty much like a
> narrower single-wide.
>
> This morning I saw this big bus motor home RV thing, it was HUGE!  I'm
> guessing 12ft tall anyway, probably has 8ft headroom inside and storage
> bins underneath, big pusher dizzel engine.  But those are quite spendy,
> even used ones are like $100k or more. I'm guessing those things are like
> 40ft long, so a lot of room.  I rode in one once that bands used for
> touring, it was really nice, granite kitchen and marble bathroom etc.
>
> So then I was driving home and was sitting next to a semi with a trailer
> that said "53ft" on the side, that is pretty big.  I'm guessing the trailer
> is 8ft wide, and maybe 8ft headroom inside, which is kinda like a shipping
> container, and people use containers to build houses now.  Containers I
> think are up to 40ft for a double?  So either a trailer or a container
> would make a nice "tiny" house too.  So then I was thinking one of those
> low-floor moving van trailers would be even better, more headroom, loft
> space.  Either buy an old trailer and fix it up, or buy a low-frame (or an
> equipment hauler low trailer) with the axles and tars and breaks and what
> not already in place, then build a "tiny" house on that -- more size, more
> headroom, etc.  And even if you had to buy an old tractor to pull it
> around, or hire that job out, you could have a larger, nicer "tiny" house
> than a single-wide. And some of those equipment trailers have wings that
> fold out to give maybe 12ft wide for a wide load, so that would allow a
> larger "tiny" house, I guess moving it would require some permit or
> something but still...
>
> So that got me thinking about how tall a trailer can be, I'm thinking
> maybe 12ft max to clear bridges and stuff on the road, or can they go a bit
> higher?  I see those big trailers driving with a pace car with a pole to
> hit something before the truck would, and warn it off the bridge or
> whatever.  I guess if you weren't hauling a taller "tiny" house too far you
> could get by with something taller?
>
> My lunch-time musings, but ideas accepted.  I'm wondering if there would
> be a market for larger "tiny" houses built to a spec that was much better
> than your average single-wide.  Make a good lake house, or cabin in the
> woods, or even a starter home that would be less than buying from a
> developer or used, esp if someone had a lot?  They could even be designed
> to gang up to get a bigger house, like a double-wide or even with wings
> that went off the sides.
>
> --R
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

Craig is way ahead of you, already has his commercial trunk driver's (CDL?)
license, bought the truck and trailer, and is turning the trailer into a
moving / storage thing.

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On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have been sorta intrigued by these tiny houses that are becoming
> popular.  Most of them seem to be built on like a 16ft utility trailer so
> they can be moved around to a semi-permanent location.  While some of them
> are pretty nice, it kinda makes me wonder why not just buy a travel trailer
> or something for cheap and live in that.  But whatever, I kinda like them
> as they look more like a real house.
>
> I got to thinking about the size issue and it seemed that building one on
> a larger trailer, like a 3-car hauler or something, would work better.  I
> see these things that will haul 19k lb, they sit kinda low, 3 axles,
> gooseneck, so that seems like a better kind of deal, instead of a 8X16ft
> house you could have say a 8X32ft house on a trailer, pretty much like a
> narrower single-wide.
>
> This morning I saw this big bus motor home RV thing, it was HUGE!  I'm
> guessing 12ft tall anyway, probably has 8ft headroom inside and storage
> bins underneath, big pusher dizzel engine.  But those are quite spendy,
> even used ones are like $100k or more. I'm guessing those things are like
> 40ft long, so a lot of room.  I rode in one once that bands used for
> touring, it was really nice, granite kitchen and marble bathroom etc.
>
> So then I was driving home and was sitting next to a semi with a trailer
> that said "53ft" on the side, that is pretty big.  I'm guessing the trailer
> is 8ft wide, and maybe 8ft headroom inside, which is kinda like a shipping
> container, and people use containers to build houses now.  Containers I
> think are up to 40ft for a double?  So either a trailer or a container
> would make a nice "tiny" house too.  So then I was thinking one of those
> low-floor moving van trailers would be even better, more headroom, loft
> space.  Either buy an old trailer and fix it up, or buy a low-frame (or an
> equipment hauler low trailer) with the axles and tars and breaks and what
> not already in place, then build a "tiny" house on that -- more size, more
> headroom, etc.  And even if you had to buy an old tractor to pull it
> around, or hire that job out, you could have a larger, nicer "tiny" house
> than a single-wide. And some of those equipment trailers have wings that
> fold out to give maybe 12ft wide for a wide load, so that would allow a
> larger "tiny" house, I guess moving it would require some permit or
> something but still...
>
> So that got me thinking about how tall a trailer can be, I'm thinking
> maybe 12ft max to clear bridges and stuff on the road, or can they go a bit
> higher?  I see those big trailers driving with a pace car with a pole to
> hit something before the truck would, and warn it off the bridge or
> whatever.  I guess if you weren't hauling a taller "tiny" house too far you
> could get by with something taller?
>
> My lunch-time musings, but ideas accepted.  I'm wondering if there would
> be a market for larger "tiny" houses built to a spec that was much better
> than your average single-wide.  Make a good lake house, or cabin in the
> woods, or even a starter home that would be less than buying from a
> developer or used, esp if someone had a lot?  They could even be designed
> to gang up to get a bigger house, like a double-wide or even with wings
> that went off the sides.
>
> --R
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

Travel trailers are made out of aluminum foil and spit. The REQUIRE lots of 
maintenance and when the roof leaks they're quickly ruined. Notice how I didn't 
put "if" the roof leaks?You can get travel trailers cheap cheap, sometimes 
people will pay you to take them away...

-Curt

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Cc: Rich Thomas 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:58 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

While some of them are pretty nice, it kinda makes me wonder why not just buy a 
travel 
trailer or something for cheap and live in that.  But whatever, I kinda 
like them as they look more like a real house.

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Re: [MBZ] Another note on oil

Gall-dang Google and their sharing settings...
Try: https://goo.gl/photos/AETJhEx8LH11mKKJ7
and: https://goo.gl/photos/VUA7SU7UkMNSfSis7

  From: Meade Dillon 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 

 Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another note on oil

Link is broken, 404 error...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I am reminded of last year when I had to replace the valve cover gasket on the 
1952 Farmall Super M. I've been using 15w40 diesel oil in that for the last few 
years. I'm sure in days gone by it was fed a lot of 30wt non-detergent so when 
I first started using detergent oil I mixed it in slowly, like 4qts 
non-detergent/1qt detergent to help clean the crud out. I also did twice yearly 
oil changes for a few years, now I do yearly or sometimes every other year 
depending on how much run time its had.
Here's some pics of the rockers after a few (five maybe?) years of detergent 
oil:https://photos.google.com/ photo/ AF1QipNWm68EvswqCm8KuDFt- 
Tw2rxts3dM1-N7uQHj6
https://photos.google.com/ photo/AF1QipNk9fhBrPNLHuVjzo_ fKkRHwoc3MBXfH3YuBaG1
I was quite pleased with what I found. I was also quite pleased when the new 
valve cover gasket cured the oil leak onto the exhaust manifold. Although last 
spring I was discing some grass seed and the bugs were just awful. Maybe a 
little oil smoke would have helped...

-Curt
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[MBZ] OT Tractor/trailer trailer size

I have been sorta intrigued by these tiny houses that are becoming 
popular.  Most of them seem to be built on like a 16ft utility trailer 
so they can be moved around to a semi-permanent location.  While some of 
them are pretty nice, it kinda makes me wonder why not just buy a travel 
trailer or something for cheap and live in that.  But whatever, I kinda 
like them as they look more like a real house.


I got to thinking about the size issue and it seemed that building one 
on a larger trailer, like a 3-car hauler or something, would work 
better.  I see these things that will haul 19k lb, they sit kinda low, 3 
axles, gooseneck, so that seems like a better kind of deal, instead of a 
8X16ft house you could have say a 8X32ft house on a trailer, pretty much 
like a narrower single-wide.


This morning I saw this big bus motor home RV thing, it was HUGE!  I'm 
guessing 12ft tall anyway, probably has 8ft headroom inside and storage 
bins underneath, big pusher dizzel engine.  But those are quite spendy, 
even used ones are like $100k or more. I'm guessing those things are 
like 40ft long, so a lot of room.  I rode in one once that bands used 
for touring, it was really nice, granite kitchen and marble bathroom etc.


So then I was driving home and was sitting next to a semi with a trailer 
that said "53ft" on the side, that is pretty big.  I'm guessing the 
trailer is 8ft wide, and maybe 8ft headroom inside, which is kinda like 
a shipping container, and people use containers to build houses now.  
Containers I think are up to 40ft for a double?  So either a trailer or 
a container would make a nice "tiny" house too.  So then I was thinking 
one of those low-floor moving van trailers would be even better, more 
headroom, loft space.  Either buy an old trailer and fix it up, or buy a 
low-frame (or an equipment hauler low trailer) with the axles and tars 
and breaks and what not already in place, then build a "tiny" house on 
that -- more size, more headroom, etc.  And even if you had to buy an 
old tractor to pull it around, or hire that job out, you could have a 
larger, nicer "tiny" house than a single-wide. And some of those 
equipment trailers have wings that fold out to give maybe 12ft wide for 
a wide load, so that would allow a larger "tiny" house, I guess moving 
it would require some permit or something but still...


So that got me thinking about how tall a trailer can be, I'm thinking 
maybe 12ft max to clear bridges and stuff on the road, or can they go a 
bit higher?  I see those big trailers driving with a pace car with a 
pole to hit something before the truck would, and warn it off the bridge 
or whatever.  I guess if you weren't hauling a taller "tiny" house too 
far you could get by with something taller?


My lunch-time musings, but ideas accepted.  I'm wondering if there would 
be a market for larger "tiny" houses built to a spec that was much 
better than your average single-wide.  Make a good lake house, or cabin 
in the woods, or even a starter home that would be less than buying from 
a developer or used, esp if someone had a lot?  They could even be 
designed to gang up to get a bigger house, like a double-wide or even 
with wings that went off the sides.


--R



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Re: [MBZ] Another note on oil

Link is broken, 404 error...

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Charleston SC

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am reminded of last year when I had to replace the valve cover gasket on
> the 1952 Farmall Super M. I've been using 15w40 diesel oil in that for the
> last few years. I'm sure in days gone by it was fed a lot of 30wt
> non-detergent so when I first started using detergent oil I mixed it in
> slowly, like 4qts non-detergent/1qt detergent to help clean the crud out. I
> also did twice yearly oil changes for a few years, now I do yearly or
> sometimes every other year depending on how much run time its had.
> Here's some pics of the rockers after a few (five maybe?) years of
> detergent oil:https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNWm68EvswqCm8KuDFt-
> Tw2rxts3dM1-N7uQHj6
> https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNk9fhBrPNLHuVjzo_
> fKkRHwoc3MBXfH3YuBaG1
> I was quite pleased with what I found. I was also quite pleased when the
> new valve cover gasket cured the oil leak onto the exhaust manifold.
> Although last spring I was discing some grass seed and the bugs were just
> awful. Maybe a little oil smoke would have helped...
>
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!

2017-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

150k/year is a good score for a trucker, average is probably closer to 120k for 
long haul. 
Most fleets, averaging 3k a week makes you a star performer. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!


I wonder what that guy's @$$ is like spending 200kmi/yr in a car seat.  YOW!

--R


On 8/9/17 11:25 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

This is a fascinating story!  It is a story about a guy who is a 
pharmacy/medical courier.  He drives 200,000 miles per year for his job.   He 
had a 2011 Ford Fiesta that he drove to 740,000 miles before giving it to his 
wife to drive.  Read the story and look at what the guy does on an annual basis 
as far as maintenance!

http://blog.caranddriver.com/really-long-haulin-what-its-like-to-drive-20-miles-per-year/


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Re: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250

I drove one and I drove a 124 with the same engine.  The LWB 126 was definitely 
underpowered by comparison.  It would certainly go high speed.  But, it felt 
like I was pushing the engine to its limit too frequently.  In the 124, the 
same engine always felt like it was cruising without straining to keep up.  It 
was like driving a four cylinder on the highway.  Yes, it will keep up.  But, 
it was straining to do it.

Don Snook

From: Curt Raymond [mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:13 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List ; Kaleb C. Striplin 

Cc: Donald Snook 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250

I always laugh when you guys make fun of the 300SE for being underpowered, 
Kaleb especially since he'll then remember fondly his 240D...

-Curt


From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
To: Kaleb C. Striplin mailto:ka...@striplin.net>>; 
"mercedes@okiebenz.com" 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
Cc: Donald Snook mailto:d...@snooklawllc.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250

Whoops.  Ignore my prior email.  I didn't realize the headgasket had been done 
already.

Don Snook

-Original Message-
From: Donald Snook
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:05 AM
To: 'Kaleb C. Striplin' mailto:ka...@striplin.net>>; 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: RE: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250

It is VERY nice.  But, its going to need head gaskets soon.  At least that has 
been my experience with that engine in the 126 chassis.  Its too underpowered 
for me to think it's a good setup.  I think its too much car for an engine that 
worked great in the 124.

Don Snook

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 8:16 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250

It's nice but overpriced especially with faded paint and a big dent in the door.

1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles 
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/d/1990-mercedes-300se-w126/6255843481.html

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Re: [MBZ] An oil question

In the past I've alternated fluid flush and full transmission service. If 
you're changing the fluid while it still has life in it, it shouldn't really 
matter.
-Curt


  From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 To: Mitch Haley ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
Cc: Donald Snook 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question
   
I get the argument that a flush wouldn't clean the filter.  Similarly, a 
transmission service including the filter only replaces 40% or so of the fluid. 
 So, I suppose if one would like to do the best thing it would be to do a 
filter change AND a flush.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:04 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question


> On August 8, 2017 at 9:48 PM Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Don DON"T DO IT.
> Read these two articles
> http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/29
> http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/238

Quote of the day, it's like cleaning your air filter by driving on a clean 
road...

2. Transmission flushes: Running clean fluid through a dirty transmission 
filter, is like driving on a clean road and hoping to unstop a clogged air 
filter. When a transmission filter becomes restricted, damage occurs in the 
transmission. Flushing may only stir up the debris in the pan and further 
restrict the filter. A flush CANNOT clean the filter. A proper transmission 
service includes filter replacement on transmissions with replaceable filters.


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Re: [MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!

I doubt Mercedes would give him a new free car.  This car has been used for 
commercial purposes.   

Don Snook 

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From: Meade Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:39 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!

I totally agree with the comment that Ford should have given him a free car 
when he retired the Fiesta.  I'm pretty sure that MB still does that for 
original owners, this dude should have gone that route with an E-class diesel 
(better mileage, more room, more comfort) and then his next MB would have been 
free.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This is a fascinating story!  It is a story about a guy who is a 
> pharmacy/medical courier.  He drives 200,000 miles per year for his job.
>  He had a 2011 Ford Fiesta that he drove to 740,000 miles before 
> giving it to his wife to drive.  Read the story and look at what the 
> guy does on an annual basis as far as maintenance!
>
> http://blog.caranddriver.com/really-long-haulin-what-its-
> like-to-drive-20-miles-per-year/
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
> SNOOK LAW LLC
>
> 5020 E. Central Suite A
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> Phone:  (316) 512-5608
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>
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Re: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250

I always laugh when you guys make fun of the 300SE for being underpowered, 
Kaleb especially since he'll then remember fondly his 240D...
-Curt


  From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 To: Kaleb C. Striplin ; "mercedes@okiebenz.com" 
 
Cc: Donald Snook 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250
   
Whoops.  Ignore my prior email.  I didn't realize the headgasket had been done 
already. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Donald Snook 
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:05 AM
To: 'Kaleb C. Striplin' ; mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: RE: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250

It is VERY nice.  But, its going to need head gaskets soon.  At least that has 
been my experience with that engine in the 126 chassis.  Its too underpowered 
for me to think it's a good setup.  I think its too much car for an engine that 
worked great in the 124.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 8:16 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250

It's nice but overpriced especially with faded paint and a big dent in the door.

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[MBZ] Another note on oil

I am reminded of last year when I had to replace the valve cover gasket on the 
1952 Farmall Super M. I've been using 15w40 diesel oil in that for the last few 
years. I'm sure in days gone by it was fed a lot of 30wt non-detergent so when 
I first started using detergent oil I mixed it in slowly, like 4qts 
non-detergent/1qt detergent to help clean the crud out. I also did twice yearly 
oil changes for a few years, now I do yearly or sometimes every other year 
depending on how much run time its had.
Here's some pics of the rockers after a few (five maybe?) years of detergent 
oil:https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNWm68EvswqCm8KuDFt-Tw2rxts3dM1-N7uQHj6
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNk9fhBrPNLHuVjzo_fKkRHwoc3MBXfH3YuBaG1
I was quite pleased with what I found. I was also quite pleased when the new 
valve cover gasket cured the oil leak onto the exhaust manifold. Although last 
spring I was discing some grass seed and the bugs were just awful. Maybe a 
little oil smoke would have helped...

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] An oil question

I get the argument that a flush wouldn't clean the filter.   Similarly, a 
transmission service including the filter only replaces 40% or so of the fluid. 
 So, I suppose if one would like to do the best thing it would be to do a 
filter change AND a flush.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:04 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question

> On August 8, 2017 at 9:48 PM Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Don DON"T DO IT.
> Read these two articles
> http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/29
> http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/238

Quote of the day, it's like cleaning your air filter by driving on a clean 
road...

2. Transmission flushes: Running clean fluid through a dirty transmission 
filter, is like driving on a clean road and hoping to unstop a clogged air 
filter. When a transmission filter becomes restricted, damage occurs in the 
transmission. Flushing may only stir up the debris in the pan and further 
restrict the filter. A flush CANNOT clean the filter. A proper transmission 
service includes filter replacement on transmissions with replaceable filters.

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Re: [MBZ] An oil question

The other thing to note in the Blackstone study is that the newer oil is MORE 
damaging than used oil. I've seen this noted before too where the oil has to 
"break in" a little. I'm not sure I understand why but the numbers seem clear, 
if the oil can support it longer oil change intervals are better.
-Curt

  From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
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Cc: Donald Snook 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question

Randy wrote: 

"For what it is worth, I will throw my 2 cents in . . .
I suspect that the primary advantage of synthetics is in either very hot or 
very cold weather.
Here in the great white north, we get a lot of pretty cold weather.
I believe we were led to believe that the oil would flow much better in the 
cold and provide more immediate protection to things like the bearings if we 
use synthetic oils.
I wonder what difference one might see if one were to put a gallon of the dino 
oil and a gallon of the synthetic oil in a freezer for a day or two and then 
pour them out.
I remember pouring out a jug of dino oil in cold weather and saw a big lump of 
some sort that looked like there was a can of the old STP in the jug. Not sure 
if the cold caused it to separate from the other ingredients but that was my 
thought at the time. Do the modern oils avoid that sort of thing? Do the 
synthetics do it better?" 

I remember Dr. Booth also saying that Mobil 1's other advantage/benefit was 
that it was able to carry a lot of soot/crud/contaminants in suspension better 
than other oils.  He said that Mobil 1 would clean out of a lot of gun that was 
clogging seals.  He said that this was one of the reasons that some folks 
experienced higher leak rates when first switching over to Mobil 1.  His theory 
was that once the crud and gunk was cleaned out the seals would soften and the 
leaks would get better.    I think I am remember this correctly.  This was what 
he said.  I have no idea if it is or was true.  But, he knew a hell of a lot 
more about this stuff than I did so I tended to believe his opinions on this 
subject.  

As was said earlier, the blackstone report indicates if you are changing the 
oil at 3-4000 miles, then don't waste your money.  But, if you want longer 
change intervals, I would stick with fully synthetic oils like Mobil 1.  I 
recently changed my oil and tried Schaeffer full synthetic oil.  It is supposed 
to allow longer intervals similar to Mobil 1.  I just took a 2000 mile trip 
that was relatively high speed at 80-85 consistently.  I wonder what my oil 
looks like now with only about 3,000 miles since it was changed.  

Don Snook  

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Re: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250

Whoops.  Ignore my prior email.  I didn't realize the headgasket had been done 
already. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Donald Snook 
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:05 AM
To: 'Kaleb C. Striplin' ; mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: RE: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250

It is VERY nice.  But, its going to need head gaskets soon.  At least that has 
been my experience with that engine in the 126 chassis.   Its too underpowered 
for me to think it's a good setup.  I think its too much car for an engine that 
worked great in the 124.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 8:16 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250

It's nice but overpriced especially with faded paint and a big dent in the door.

1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles 
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Re: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250

It is VERY nice.  But, its going to need head gaskets soon.  At least that has 
been my experience with that engine in the 126 chassis.   Its too underpowered 
for me to think it's a good setup.  I think its too much car for an engine that 
worked great in the 124.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 8:16 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250

It's nice but overpriced especially with faded paint and a big dent in the door.

1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles 
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Re: [MBZ] An oil question

Randy wrote: 

"For what it is worth, I will throw my 2 cents in . . .
I suspect that the primary advantage of synthetics is in either very hot or 
very cold weather.
Here in the great white north, we get a lot of pretty cold weather.
I believe we were led to believe that the oil would flow much better in the 
cold and provide more immediate protection to things like the bearings if we 
use synthetic oils.
I wonder what difference one might see if one were to put a gallon of the dino 
oil and a gallon of the synthetic oil in a freezer for a day or two and then 
pour them out.
I remember pouring out a jug of dino oil in cold weather and saw a big lump of 
some sort that looked like there was a can of the old STP in the jug. Not sure 
if the cold caused it to separate from the other ingredients but that was my 
thought at the time. Do the modern oils avoid that sort of thing? Do the 
synthetics do it better?" 


I remember Dr. Booth also saying that Mobil 1's other advantage/benefit was 
that it was able to carry a lot of soot/crud/contaminants in suspension better 
than other oils.  He said that Mobil 1 would clean out of a lot of gun that was 
clogging seals.  He said that this was one of the reasons that some folks 
experienced higher leak rates when first switching over to Mobil 1.   His 
theory was that once the crud and gunk was cleaned out the seals would soften 
and the leaks would get better.I think I am remember this correctly.   This 
was what he said.  I have no idea if it is or was true.  But, he knew a hell of 
a lot more about this stuff than I did so I tended to believe his opinions on 
this subject.   

As was said earlier, the blackstone report indicates if you are changing the 
oil at 3-4000 miles, then don't waste your money.  But, if you want longer 
change intervals, I would stick with fully synthetic oils like Mobil 1.   I 
recently changed my oil and tried Schaeffer full synthetic oil.  It is supposed 
to allow longer intervals similar to Mobil 1.   I just took a 2000 mile trip 
that was relatively high speed at 80-85 consistently.  I wonder what my oil 
looks like now with only about 3,000 miles since it was changed.  

Don Snook  


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Re: [MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!

I totally agree with the comment that Ford should have given him a free car
when he retired the Fiesta.  I'm pretty sure that MB still does that for
original owners, this dude should have gone that route with an E-class
diesel (better mileage, more room, more comfort) and then his next MB would
have been free.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This is a fascinating story!  It is a story about a guy who is a
> pharmacy/medical courier.  He drives 200,000 miles per year for his job.
>  He had a 2011 Ford Fiesta that he drove to 740,000 miles before giving it
> to his wife to drive.  Read the story and look at what the guy does on an
> annual basis as far as maintenance!
>
> http://blog.caranddriver.com/really-long-haulin-what-its-
> like-to-drive-20-miles-per-year/
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
> SNOOK LAW LLC
>
> 5020 E. Central Suite A
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[MBZ] 200,000 miles per year!

This is a fascinating story!  It is a story about a guy who is a 
pharmacy/medical courier.  He drives 200,000 miles per year for his job.   He 
had a 2011 Ford Fiesta that he drove to 740,000 miles before giving it to his 
wife to drive.  Read the story and look at what the guy does on an annual basis 
as far as maintenance!

http://blog.caranddriver.com/really-long-haulin-what-its-like-to-drive-20-miles-per-year/


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Re: [MBZ] Synthetic versus Dino Oil

I use synthetic in the cars because VW requires it but also because they get 
10,000 mile oil changes. The Golf gets Lubrimoly 4100 as it meets the proper VW 
spec, the Jetta is older and M1 5w40 is good enough for it.

The pickup used to get M1 but last year I changed to the Valvoline quickie 
change place which I think I like better. I argued that Valvoline was the only 
FLAPS available oil that met the VW spec for the Golf it must be okay stuff and 
good enough for the pickup. Thats at 5,000 miles now, I'll pull a sample before 
it gets changed in the fall and see where its at.My pickup, like OK Don's sits 
a fair amount but when it works it works hard in bad conditions so synthetic is 
a good choice.
If I were using conventional oil I'd keep the change intervals short, but I 
prefer to be driving rather than changing the oil. I think the cost of my time 
and a quality filter more than makes up for the extra cost of the oil.
-Curt


  From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 4:42 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Synthetic versus Dino Oil
   

Many automakers require owners to use synthetic motor oil in their cars’ 
engines. This is because synthetic oil has some advantages over conventional 
motor oil. It’s designed to be more effective at:

    Resisting break-down, and thus lasts longer than mineral oil
    Withstanding high temperatures
    Flowing in cold temperatures, thus reducing engine wear during frigid 
startups.

However, synthetic motor oil can cost two to four times as much as regular oil. 
So unless your owner's manual specifies synthetic, you don’t need it. But 
Consumer Reports’ chief mechanic says there are some situations where synthetic 
oil’s resistance to breakdown can help prolong the life of an engine.

If you make lots of short trips, standard motor oil may never get warm enough 
to burn off moisture and impurities. That could hasten the breakdown of 
conventional oil. Also, if you live in a region with very cold winters or very 
hot summers, or if you use your vehicle for towing or hauling heavy material, 
synthetic oil won’t break down as quickly. While synthetic generally holds up 
better and can serve for more miles, it is important to not extend oil changes 
beyond the time interval recommended by the manufacturer—typically six months 
or a year.

Another good use for synthetic oil is as a salve for older engines prone to 
sludge buildup. This gunky residue can block oil passages and lead to a quick 
death of an engine. In the early 2000s, several engines from Chrysler, Toyota, 
and Volkswagen, among others, were especially prone to sludge buildup. This 
sludge forms when oil breaks down. Synthetic oil would be beneficial in those 
engines, as it is less likely to form troublesome sludge.

Using synthetic in these situations will prolong your oil life and require 
fewer changes. That’s a major benefit to the environment, as used motor oil is 
a major source of toxic waste in water. Your pocketbook will also thank you.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2015/07/when-should-you-consider-synthetic-oil/index.htm






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Re: [MBZ] An oil question

Which has always been my contention.
-Curt

  From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Mitch Haley 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question

> On August 8, 2017 at 9:48 PM Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Don DON"T DO IT.
> Read these two articles
> http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/29
> http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/238

Quote of the day, it's like cleaning your air filter by driving on a clean 
road...

2. Transmission flushes: Running clean fluid through a dirty transmission 
filter, is like driving on a clean road and hoping to unstop a clogged air 
filter. When a transmission filter becomes restricted, damage occurs in the 
transmission. Flushing may only stir up the debris in the pan and further 
restrict the filter. A flush CANNOT clean the filter. A proper transmission 
service includes filter replacement on transmissions with replaceable filters.

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Re: [MBZ] An oil question

If only somebody had already done that...
Oh wait, that was me...
https://youtu.be/1t-dOOnRwgU
-Curt


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Cc: Mitch Haley 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 6:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question
   

> On August 8, 2017 at 6:05 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> So, based upon what you say, there may be little point in buying M1.
> What dino oil is good oil?


For your purposes, I think you have it figured out.
Buy a liter of something, stick it in the deep freeze overnight, and see what 
happens. After you test a few brands and pick a winner, set the losers aside 
for use in the lawn mower. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] An oil question

How do you know that? I asked Mobil back 4 or 5 years ago and the said it was 
still Group IV.
-Curt


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 Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 6:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question
   
Dr Booth is wrong. Well at least now days. At one point he might have been 
correct. Not M1 is just hydrocracked Group III oil. It's not a true group IV 
synthetic. You have to get amsoil or the like to get a true synthetic now. 

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> On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:34 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> So did my '83 300D. Dr. Booth did a lot of research on oils of several kinds 
> and finally concluded that Mobil 1, both for engine and transmission was the 
> best. After using Mobil 1 for both engine and transmission for 130K miles, 
> the transmission is still working well, and the retired Mercedes mechanic who 
> put in a new chain, said it was still a very good engine after 300K miles.
> ~~
> OK Don wrote:
>> I used M-1 tranny fluid in it, it seemed to smooth the shifts from how they
>> were when I got the car.
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, transmission fluid, actually:
>>> 
>>> What transmission fluid is suitable for a 1990 300D/2.5 Turbo?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
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