Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:11:10 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 215/55R16

https://www.tires-easy.com/tires/215-55-16 shows 112 tires, varying from 

Milestar MS932 215/55R16XL 97H BSW
4.68/5 (40 reviews)
24556017 Milestar MS932 215/55R16XL 97H BSW
free shipping
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Pricing  $ 216.64  for four tires
Shipping FREE
Estimated Delivery   1 - 2 days

to

Cooper CS5 Ultra Touring 215/55R16 93H BSW
4.83/5 (18 reviews)
UTQG: 620AA
Mileage Warranty: 70K miles
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Falken Ziex ZE950 A/S 215/55R16XL 97V BSW
4.87/5 (30 reviews)
UTQG: 600AA
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Nokian eNTYRE 2.0 215/55R16XL 97H BSW
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Michelin Primacy MXM4 215/55R16XL 97H BSW
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Michelin Primacy HP 215/55R16 93W BSW
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Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> I have read that SSDs have a much longer lifespan, and are a lot faster to
> boot (pun attempt).


Completely false on both counts, depending on circumstances and subtracting
the pun.

SSD's are _usually_ faster, and don't have mechanical wear mechanisms.  But
there are also two basic facts of physics working against you:

1) The fundamental electron tunneling mechanisms used have a
wear-equivalent behavior, and they literally slow down with every erasure.
Depending on the technology, at a 10:1 ratio or worse.  When near EOL, some
devices can take 1/2 second or more PER ERASURE to finish.

2) Some flash technologies have a wear-out threshold in the hundreds
(10^2!) of cycles.  The best ones are only millions (10^6).  10^4-10^5 are
the middle of the road.  Most flash vendors don't want to tell you the raw
numbers.  The newest high-density MLC/TLC flashes are the worst.

Plus, there are more factors:

3) Wear-leveling mechanisms, required in order to compensate for the above
two conditions, are often not matched to the filesystem.  This can result
in highly-unoptimal use behavior of the raw flash device, causing
accelerated wear on the flash.  Yes, making things worse instead of
better.  Current trends are to integrate this necessary mechanism into the
device, where it is opaque, unspecified, and unadvertised.  By the time you
find out it's actually shit, it's too late.  Low-cost commodity devices are
usually the worst.

4) The more full the SSD is, the less free space there is to push around
for wear leveling purposes.  A nearly full device will wear out much faster
than a nearly empty one.

5) Retention is usually unspecified, but can be measured in months on the
worst devices.  Higher temperatures exacerbate the problem.

For some heavy write-oriented applications, a traditional rotating disk
will actually work better and last longer!  A company I once worked for
changed production from rotating to SSD, "to enhance reliability."  Failure
rates in the field went _up_!  They did not switch to a flash-friendly
filesystem format, and the traditional fs just wore the flash out in short
order.  The 'improvement' was made by the purchasing/marketing department,
and engineering was neither involved nor consulted.  Oops.

OTOH, a truly optimal implementation, largely read-only and well-matched to
the application, will really fly, last a long time, and will be immune to
physical abuse.

Our big Macs here at home use SSD for the boot/application disk, and
rotating media for all the user files.  They're blazingly fast in general
operation, but a catastrophic SSD failure will not result in the loss of
critical data.  These machines all use Time Machine to back up to a server,
which uses 2TB RAID HD's to catch.  One of these raw HD's is rotated out to
off-site storage quarterly, and the RAID is rebuilt with the oldest offline
device.  (4 2T mechanical hard drives in rotation, 2 serving 'live' at a
time, 2 in separate off-line off-site locations.)

Fast, and safe.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] bench test

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The 560SL takes its ground through the speedometer, and not the big plug,
unlike the older cars.  It's easy to blow the trace inside the speedo head
if you flash the clock power line to one of the metal shells, for example.
Then everything is messed up.  Fortunately it is an easy fix, if you are
handy.  Don't know if this applies, or not.

-- Jim
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[MBZ] bench test

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Any of our long term tech people have a good way to set up a bench test so I 
can figure out if the instrument cluster parts for pre-1992 are working?   I 
picked up a cluster from a w116 that could swap into my SL.   My clock does not 
function and the tach is slow.  Only spins up to 2500 top.  This replaced the 
nonworking clock with tach that would swing and pop all over but never tell the 
truth.

Speedo in this unit does spin up, but I think the odo is shot.  Stuck trip 
meter and the odo is not seeming to click over.   I need to check fuel gauge 
and temp.  If I can set up the test bench, I would be able to certify the other 
dozed clusters living on my parts shelf.


clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Probably a good deal but I recently bought two refurb HP elite SFF desktops 
with (older) I7 processors and from TigerDirect for about $300 each (I did 
replace the HDs with SSDs).  If you are into rolling the dice, you might check 
out current refurb offerings.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK
> Don via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:42 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: OK Don 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks
> 
> Is this a good deal?
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z420-Workstation-Intel-Xeon-
> Quad-Core-3-6GHz-8GB-RAM-500GB-NVIDIA-Win-10-Pro/
> 172119032781?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m14
> 38.l2649
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:28 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> 
> > I found this stand-alone disk duplicator - last one I bought (for
> > work) was over $300 . . .
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Adapter-Duplicator-Function-Tool-
> Free/d
> > p/ B00LSU4SHW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics=UTF8=
> > 1523481537=1-
> 1=2.5%22+SATA+III+to+3.5%22+SATA+II+adapter
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> >
> >> That sucks - I do have an Oxy-Acetylene torch should you need to
> >> destroy another  one - ought to be fun!
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I tried the warranty route, they sent me an RMA so I could exchange
> >>> it for a refurbished one.
> >>> I was hoping for 'sorry about that, here's a new drive'.
> >>> I'm an accountant, and the drive had client data on it. Therefore
> >>> the only possible repairs involved a hammer or a very hot fire.
> >>>
> >>> Mitch.
> >>>
> >>> > On April 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Hmm - and Sandisk is supposed to be one of the best SSD brands,
> >>> > last I knew. Was it covered under warranty?
> >>> >
> >>>
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> >> --
> >> OK Don
> >>
> >> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and
> >> many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >>
> >> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The
> >> few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the
> >> electric fence for themselves."
> >>
> >> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and
> > many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The
> > few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the
> > electric fence for themselves."
> >
> > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for
> themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I have gone to modest (like 500G) SSDs in all my PCs and store most files 
externally on a NAS.  PCs boot much faster from a SSD.  My main NAS (always on) 
is a Synology DS216play with two 8T WD red drives  that I bought refurbished on 
ebay for much less than new.  The 216 is set up as two large (8T) volumes with 
no RAID,  They have been running fine for about two years now.  I also use a 
Synology DS413 set up as 13T RAID 5 with three 6T and one 3T WD red drives (all 
ebay refurb) which is the backup for most things, including all the DS216.  
Finally, I have an external USB drive plugged into the 216 for weekly disk 
image backups of all PCs.  Storing full image backups on a USB drive simplifies 
a restore.  To date, I haven't had problems with the WD red drives.  I use 
Acronis for backup on the Win machines and the Synology (free) package for 
backup between the Synology machines.  No complaints so far.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK
> Don via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 2:18 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: OK Don 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks
> 
> My boot disk and the second disk - used for backing up photos, etc. are almost
> full. This is an older (9 years old) HP consumer box.
> 
> I'm seeing 4TB disks for reasonable prices, Seagate and Western Digital.
> What have the rest of you experienced in terms of drive reliability/life?
> 
> I only have two drive bays in the case - seems inadequate today . . .
> 
> I'd hate to have to rebuild the box from scratch, with the licensing hassles 
> from
> M$ and Adobe, etc., but am also thinking of one of those HP workstations Curt
> was recommending a few years ago.
> 
> 
> --
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for
> themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 22:33:28 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> gpartd works great!
> 
> fmiser via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >
> > gparted to handle partition work.  Clonezilla for cloning stuff.
> > Can be gotten in it's own ISO image, or get almost any
> > service/repair live CD (SystemRescue, GMRL) will have both.

gparted is what I used on our laptop to shrink the Windows area from the
whole disk to about 60 GB so I could install CentOS 7 with Mate desktop
manager on the rest.

Yes, it does work great!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

gpartd works great!

fmiser via Mercedes wrote:



gparted to handle partition work.  Clonezilla for cloning stuff.
Can be gotten in it's own ISO image, or get almost any
service/repair live CD (SystemRescue, GMRL) will have both.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> OK wrote:

> A clone would get the MBR, but how that works
> with a disk of a different size I don't know. You used to have
> to purchase software to do this stuff decently, is there
> freeware that works now?

gparted to handle partition work.  Clonezilla for cloning stuff.
Can be gotten in it's own ISO image, or get almost any
service/repair live CD (SystemRescue, GMRL) will have both.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> OK wrote:

>  but am also thinking of one of those HP workstations Curt was
> recommending a few years ago.

I got a HP xw8600.  I _like_ it!

I do have it doing server like duties, with multiple remote sessions.

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Re: [MBZ] Guy dropped his price

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

White with blue interior. Paint was so-so. Otherwise seemed in decent shape a 
year ago. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Too bad there are no photos.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 1:51 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I bought my daughter's E320 from this guy, he was wanting like $4300 a year 
>> ago, looks like he came down $1k.  Was not a bad car, might be reasonable at 
>> a bit less than this.
>> 
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1994-mercedes-s350-diesel-big/6551019710.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:19:48 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> If you’re buying a single drive, splurge and buy an enterprise grade
> drive. Well worth the extra bucks.
> 
> -D former data center guy

The WD Gold I bought is an enterprise/data center grade drive.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 19:04:34 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:59:08 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > I haven't had to do this kind of stuff in many years, but last I
> > remember, copying a disk does not get the MBR, just the files and
> > directories. A clone would get the MBR, but how that works with a disk
> > of a different size I don't know. You used to have to purchase
> > software to do this stuff decently, is there freeware that works now?
> > I'm running W10 . . . I'm guessing boot to a Linux USB drive with the
> > utilities, then clone the old drives to the new ones?
> 
> Well, I was answering from a Linux perspective.
> 
> One uses the dd command, which copies everything (clone in Win jargon).

When you do that, the larger disk thinks it is the size of the smaller
disk, which is why you have to use a partition manager (on Linux, parted)
to enlarge the last partition on the disk.


Craig

P.S. systemrescuecd is bootable and has all the tools you need.

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[MBZ] Knackers

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Bought a nice white front bumper from a '92 or '93 300D today.  This will 
replace the damaged bumper on my cabriolet.  Looks like it might be an 
aftermarket bumper.  $60

Also got the five oblique injectors, $10.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:59:08 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I haven't had to do this kind of stuff in many years, but last I
> remember, copying a disk does not get the MBR, just the files and
> directories. A clone would get the MBR, but how that works with a disk
> of a different size I don't know. You used to have to purchase software
> to do this stuff decently, is there freeware that works now? I'm
> running W10 . . . I'm guessing boot to a Linux USB drive with the
> utilities, then clone the old drives to the new ones?

Well, I was answering from a Linux perspective.

One uses the dd command, which copies everything (clone in Win jargon).


Craig


> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:31:23 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Should be able to.  Or create the partition you want, then transfer
> > > the files over...
> >
> > Copying the disk will get the Master Boot Record as well as the
> > files ...

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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

I've got 2 of those USB 2.0 & 3.0 they both work like a champ.
No complaints, in fact I have a 1 TB hdd hooked to the 2.0 ver and use it
as an external hard drive.
Bought both from NewEgg 29.99 for the 2.0 got the 3.0 for 19.99 on sale
about a year later.

Russ W

On Wed,4/11/18 16:28, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

I found this stand-alone disk duplicator - last one I bought (for work) was
over $300 . . .

https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Adapter-Duplicator-Function-Tool-Free/dp/B00LSU4SHW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics=UTF8=1523481537=1-1=2.5%22+SATA+III+to+3.5%22+SATA+II+adapter


On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:


That sucks - I do have an Oxy-Acetylene torch should you need to destroy
another  one - ought to be fun!

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I tried the warranty route, they sent me an RMA so I could exchange it
for a refurbished one.
I was hoping for 'sorry about that, here's a new drive'.
I'm an accountant, and the drive had client data on it. Therefore the
only possible repairs involved a hammer or a very hot fire.

Mitch.


On April 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM OK Don via Mercedes 

wrote:


Hmm - and Sandisk is supposed to be one of the best SSD brands, last I
knew. Was it covered under warranty?


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*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
fence for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!







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Re: [MBZ] ML350 voltage regulator

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On April 11, 2018 at 8:08 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>  Can get a nice white hood for $150, but Green-Black? Nowhere I can find. 

I hadn't looked since January when I ruined my hood. 
Found one for $100, 100 miles away, downgraded condition, apparently for rust, 
3 years older than my ML.
https://wsimgprooh.car-part.com/3369/2018/2A8668/3369_14101_05_web.jpg

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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I have had good luck with hitachi.  Other than some that were bad out of 
the box, I don't recall any (of hundreds) failing.  The bad ones were 
replaced with refurbs, and no problem ever with the refurbs.  WD, and 
seagate, have failed.  I think it was some seagate I bought in 2000 that 
i figured were programmed to brick in 10 years.  They all died exactly 
10 yrs after mfgr. date.


Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

I have read that SSDs have a much longer lifespan, and are a lot faster to boot 
(pun attempt).

Also, I too favor WD over the competition.

My solution was a NAS with a pair of red 4TB WD HDs. The cost for the WD 
MyCloud Mirror was no more than the cost of the 2 HDs in it. It also runs my 
HDHomerun DVR software in its spare time.

Greg




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Re: [MBZ] ML350 voltage regulator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I do too just have not gone after one yet 

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> On Apr 11, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I replaced the fender (made sure I knew where to find a Green Black Metallic 
> fender before I bought it, those things are RARE), radiator, and headlight 
> and put a hitch on it. Still has a busted fog light and now I've messed up 
> the hood and the alternator quit. Bumper still has little cracks with deer 
> hairs stuffed in them. Can get a nice white hood for $150, but Green-Black? 
> Nowhere I can find. 
> I see cheap W163s and sometimes W164s on CoPart all the time, sometimes with 
> clean titles like mine. 
> 
> Mitch. 
>> On April 11, 2018 at 7:34 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What all did you end up having to do to it? Bumper if I recall. I would 
>> still like to get another cheap ML
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] ML350 voltage regulator

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Paint the hood flat black, all the kids are doing it...
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018, 8:08:06 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I replaced the fender (made sure I knew where to find a Green Black Metallic 
fender before I bought it, those things are RARE), radiator, and headlight and 
put a hitch on it. Still has a busted fog light and now I've messed up the hood 
and the alternator quit. Bumper still has little cracks with deer hairs stuffed 
in them. Can get a nice white hood for $150, but Green-Black? Nowhere I can 
find. 
I see cheap W163s and sometimes W164s on CoPart all the time, sometimes with 
clean titles like mine. 

Mitch. 
> On April 11, 2018 at 7:34 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> What all did you end up having to do to it? Bumper if I recall. I would still 
> like to get another cheap ML
>

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Re: [MBZ] ML350 voltage regulator

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I replaced the fender (made sure I knew where to find a Green Black Metallic 
fender before I bought it, those things are RARE), radiator, and headlight and 
put a hitch on it. Still has a busted fog light and now I've messed up the hood 
and the alternator quit. Bumper still has little cracks with deer hairs stuffed 
in them. Can get a nice white hood for $150, but Green-Black? Nowhere I can 
find. 
I see cheap W163s and sometimes W164s on CoPart all the time, sometimes with 
clean titles like mine. 

Mitch. 
> On April 11, 2018 at 7:34 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> What all did you end up having to do to it? Bumper if I recall. I would still 
> like to get another cheap ML
>

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[MBZ] CoPart

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I took a 3 hour lunch break yesterday to check this out and bid on it. 
https://www.copart.com/lot/27896988

It has the parts I need to fix my 2100 mile car that's slowly depreciating in 
my garage. 
(except for the side curtain airbags, seatbelts and hood)
It's the same color and bodywork, (slightly rare RS nose/tail/side ground 
effects package) and even the same month of production, so there was a very 
good chance of the black granite metallic paint matching. 

I wanted it pretty bad until I saw the dent in the hood, still bid $2600 on it 
at 2pm the day before the sale, I was the first person to even bother bidding 
on it. By the time I got home last night it was sitting at $2650. By morning it 
was $2700, which means that yesterday some other retail idiot with access to a 
pro account kept raising his bid by $50 until he beat me and then somebody else 
outbid him overnight. Sold for $4550, which is a lot more than I paid for my 
less damaged 2016. That makes the 2nd time I found a RS the right color, and 
the 2nd time it went for at least 50% more than I expected. I'm not going to 
pay over $5500 out the door for a parts car and then buy seat belts and airbags 
too. Somebody must have really wanted to restore it. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] ML350 voltage regulator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

What all did you end up having to do to it? Bumper if I recall. I would still 
like to get another cheap ML

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> On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Winning bid was $8xx, had to hand them $1241 for it. 
> But that was before I started buying parts and accessories... 
> Mitch. 
> 
>> On April 11, 2018 at 5:41 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Is this the one you got off copart? How much did you end up paying for it? 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 4:12 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This winter my 2003 ML350 quit charging with no warning lamp. 
>>> In the pre-computer age, that would have meant a bad regulator or dash 
>>> indicator bulb. 
>>> Since it's a MBZ with 190k on the clock and a TINY alternator pulley, I'm 
>>> thinking 'throw in a regulator/brush pack and see what happens'. 
>>> 
>>> But I have some questions:
>>> 
>>> Is the brush pack externally accessible?
>>> If not, can I directly swap in an alternator that does have a quick detach 
>>> brush pack, like the one from my 1999 E320?
>>> 
>>> How do I tell if it's a Valeo or Bosch alternator?
>>> 
>>> Where do I buy the brush pack?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

3 year would be reasonable.
Suggest to them that you can have the drive shredded and send them the shreds 
if they like...

-Curt
 

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018, 7:11:32 PM EDT, Mitch Haley 
 wrote:  
 
 I didn't respond after they sent me the RMA info. 
Maybe I should have?
I bought it around Black Friday in 2015, I wonder if that was a 3 year warranty?
Mitch.
> On April 11, 2018 at 5:35 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Did you mention that a return wasn't an option? We get that a lot from big 
> government customers...
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>  
>  On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:27 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>wrote:  That sucks - I do have an Oxy-Acetylene torch should you need to 
>destroy
> another  one - ought to be fun!
> 
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > I tried the warranty route, they sent me an RMA so I could exchange it for
> > a refurbished one.
> > I was hoping for 'sorry about that, here's a new drive'.
> > I'm an accountant, and the drive had client data on it. Therefore the only
> > possible repairs involved a hammer or a very hot fire.
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
> > > On April 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmm - and Sandisk is supposed to be one of the best SSD brands, last I
> > > knew. Was it covered under warranty?
> > >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] ML350 voltage regulator

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Winning bid was $8xx, had to hand them $1241 for it. 
But that was before I started buying parts and accessories... 
Mitch. 

> On April 11, 2018 at 5:41 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is this the one you got off copart? How much did you end up paying for it? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Apr 11, 2018, at 4:12 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > This winter my 2003 ML350 quit charging with no warning lamp. 
> > In the pre-computer age, that would have meant a bad regulator or dash 
> > indicator bulb. 
> > Since it's a MBZ with 190k on the clock and a TINY alternator pulley, I'm 
> > thinking 'throw in a regulator/brush pack and see what happens'. 
> > 
> > But I have some questions:
> > 
> > Is the brush pack externally accessible?
> > If not, can I directly swap in an alternator that does have a quick detach 
> > brush pack, like the one from my 1999 E320?
> > 
> > How do I tell if it's a Valeo or Bosch alternator?
> > 
> > Where do I buy the brush pack?
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I didn't respond after they sent me the RMA info. 
Maybe I should have?
I bought it around Black Friday in 2015, I wonder if that was a 3 year warranty?
Mitch.
> On April 11, 2018 at 5:35 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Did you mention that a return wasn't an option? We get that a lot from big 
> government customers...
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>  
>   On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:27 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:   That sucks - I do have an Oxy-Acetylene torch should you need to 
> destroy
> another  one - ought to be fun!
> 
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > I tried the warranty route, they sent me an RMA so I could exchange it for
> > a refurbished one.
> > I was hoping for 'sorry about that, here's a new drive'.
> > I'm an accountant, and the drive had client data on it. Therefore the only
> > possible repairs involved a hammer or a very hot fire.
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
> > > On April 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmm - and Sandisk is supposed to be one of the best SSD brands, last I
> > > knew. Was it covered under warranty?
> > >
> >
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> 
> -- 
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> 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Only 4 core per processor and short on RAM but not bad for the money. I'd 
double the RAM in it, Crucial has it for $100, you can probably get it cheaper 
elsewhere just make sure its fast enough...
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018, 5:42:06 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Is this a good deal?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z420-Workstation-Intel-Xeon-
Quad-Core-3-6GHz-8GB-RAM-500GB-NVIDIA-Win-10-Pro/
172119032781?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649


On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:28 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> I found this stand-alone disk duplicator - last one I bought (for work)
> was over $300 . . .
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Adapter-Duplicator-Function-Tool-Free/dp/
> B00LSU4SHW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics=UTF8=
> 1523481537=1-1=2.5%22+SATA+III+to+3.5%22+SATA+II+adapter
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:
>
>> That sucks - I do have an Oxy-Acetylene torch should you need to destroy
>> another  one - ought to be fun!
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried the warranty route, they sent me an RMA so I could exchange it
>>> for a refurbished one.
>>> I was hoping for 'sorry about that, here's a new drive'.
>>> I'm an accountant, and the drive had client data on it. Therefore the
>>> only possible repairs involved a hammer or a very hot fire.
>>>
>>> Mitch.
>>>
>>> > On April 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hmm - and Sandisk is supposed to be one of the best SSD brands, last I
>>> > knew. Was it covered under warranty?
>>> >
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> OK Don
>>
>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
>> of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>> who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
>> fence for themselves."
>>
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>>
>
>
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
> fence for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>



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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Is this a good deal?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z420-Workstation-Intel-Xeon-
Quad-Core-3-6GHz-8GB-RAM-500GB-NVIDIA-Win-10-Pro/
172119032781?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649


On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:28 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> I found this stand-alone disk duplicator - last one I bought (for work)
> was over $300 . . .
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Adapter-Duplicator-Function-Tool-Free/dp/
> B00LSU4SHW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics=UTF8=
> 1523481537=1-1=2.5%22+SATA+III+to+3.5%22+SATA+II+adapter
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:
>
>> That sucks - I do have an Oxy-Acetylene torch should you need to destroy
>> another  one - ought to be fun!
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried the warranty route, they sent me an RMA so I could exchange it
>>> for a refurbished one.
>>> I was hoping for 'sorry about that, here's a new drive'.
>>> I'm an accountant, and the drive had client data on it. Therefore the
>>> only possible repairs involved a hammer or a very hot fire.
>>>
>>> Mitch.
>>>
>>> > On April 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hmm - and Sandisk is supposed to be one of the best SSD brands, last I
>>> > knew. Was it covered under warranty?
>>> >
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> OK Don
>>
>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
>> of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>> who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
>> fence for themselves."
>>
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>>
>
>
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
> fence for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>



-- 
OK Don

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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
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Re: [MBZ] ML350 voltage regulator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Is this the one you got off copart? How much did you end up paying for it? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 4:12 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This winter my 2003 ML350 quit charging with no warning lamp. 
> In the pre-computer age, that would have meant a bad regulator or dash 
> indicator bulb. 
> Since it's a MBZ with 190k on the clock and a TINY alternator pulley, I'm 
> thinking 'throw in a regulator/brush pack and see what happens'. 
> 
> But I have some questions:
> 
> Is the brush pack externally accessible?
> If not, can I directly swap in an alternator that does have a quick detach 
> brush pack, like the one from my 1999 E320?
> 
> How do I tell if it's a Valeo or Bosch alternator?
> 
> Where do I buy the brush pack?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Did you mention that a return wasn't an option? We get that a lot from big 
government customers...
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:27 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:   That sucks - I do have an Oxy-Acetylene torch should you need to 
destroy
another  one - ought to be fun!

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I tried the warranty route, they sent me an RMA so I could exchange it for
> a refurbished one.
> I was hoping for 'sorry about that, here's a new drive'.
> I'm an accountant, and the drive had client data on it. Therefore the only
> possible repairs involved a hammer or a very hot fire.
>
> Mitch.
>
> > On April 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hmm - and Sandisk is supposed to be one of the best SSD brands, last I
> > knew. Was it covered under warranty?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I swear by my Go Forms.  They're H Rated, all weather, handle AMAZINGLY,
and cost me maybe $45.  Got 'em from Tires-Easy.com   Hurry before Trump
slaps a tariff on 'em.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> 215/55R16
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 4/10/18 7:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:59:04 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>> What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and
>>> Nokian?  Something else?
>>>
>> What size tires does it use?
>>
>>
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I found this stand-alone disk duplicator - last one I bought (for work) was
over $300 . . .

https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Adapter-Duplicator-Function-Tool-Free/dp/B00LSU4SHW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics=UTF8=1523481537=1-1=2.5%22+SATA+III+to+3.5%22+SATA+II+adapter


On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> That sucks - I do have an Oxy-Acetylene torch should you need to destroy
> another  one - ought to be fun!
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I tried the warranty route, they sent me an RMA so I could exchange it
>> for a refurbished one.
>> I was hoping for 'sorry about that, here's a new drive'.
>> I'm an accountant, and the drive had client data on it. Therefore the
>> only possible repairs involved a hammer or a very hot fire.
>>
>> Mitch.
>>
>> > On April 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Hmm - and Sandisk is supposed to be one of the best SSD brands, last I
>> > knew. Was it covered under warranty?
>> >
>>
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
> fence for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>



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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[OK Don via Mercedes]

That sucks - I do have an Oxy-Acetylene torch should you need to destroy
another  one - ought to be fun!

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I tried the warranty route, they sent me an RMA so I could exchange it for
> a refurbished one.
> I was hoping for 'sorry about that, here's a new drive'.
> I'm an accountant, and the drive had client data on it. Therefore the only
> possible repairs involved a hammer or a very hot fire.
>
> Mitch.
>
> > On April 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hmm - and Sandisk is supposed to be one of the best SSD brands, last I
> > knew. Was it covered under warranty?
> >
>
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It would be stretch to say SSDs always have a longer life than spinning disk 
drive. They do have a known lifespan, last I knew it was 10^28 writes to any 
given data location at which point you've got a read-only drive.
For most people that means the drive will last a really long time, however if 
you were doing lots of write/delete cycles you could kill a disk pretty 
easily...
I've got a Touchbar Macbook Pro because the SSD in my Retina Macbook Pro quit 
after 4 years. I've never had a laptop drive failure before...

As an aside I was just thinking about how many drives I'm responsible for 
currently, I quit counting at 300...

-Curt
 

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018, 4:46:19 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I have read that SSDs have a much longer lifespan, and are a lot faster to 
boot (pun attempt).

Also, I too favor WD over the competition.

My solution was a NAS with a pair of red 4TB WD HDs. The cost for the WD 
MyCloud Mirror was no more than the cost of the 2 HDs in it. It also runs my 
HDHomerun DVR software in its spare time.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

My boot disk and the second disk - used for backing up photos, etc. are almost 
full. This is an older (9 years old) HP consumer box.

I'm seeing 4TB disks for reasonable prices, Seagate and Western Digital.
What have the rest of you experienced in terms of drive reliability/life?

I only have two drive bays in the case - seems inadequate today . . .

I'd hate to have to rebuild the box from scratch, with the licensing hassles 
from M$ and Adobe, etc., but am also thinking of one of those HP workstations 
Curt was recommending a few years ago.


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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for 
themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I tried the warranty route, they sent me an RMA so I could exchange it for a 
refurbished one. 
I was hoping for 'sorry about that, here's a new drive'.
I'm an accountant, and the drive had client data on it. Therefore the only 
possible repairs involved a hammer or a very hot fire. 

Mitch. 

> On April 11, 2018 at 5:12 PM OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hmm - and Sandisk is supposed to be one of the best SSD brands, last I
> knew. Was it covered under warranty?
>

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Re: [MBZ] Someone needs this dizzel G coupé

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I called the owner and wired the money to him in my dreams.

Lovely old low mileage G'wagon.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:28 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Max sez:
>
> >Please send guns, lawyers and money.
>
> Okay.
>
> https://youtu.be/lP5Xv7QqXiM
>
> "I went home with a waitress, the way I always do. How was I to know, she
> was with the Russians too?"
>
> Rick
> When is a non-political song politically prescient? And yeah, I know, STOP
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[MBZ] ML350 voltage regulator

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

This winter my 2003 ML350 quit charging with no warning lamp. 
In the pre-computer age, that would have meant a bad regulator or dash 
indicator bulb. 
Since it's a MBZ with 190k on the clock and a TINY alternator pulley, I'm 
thinking 'throw in a regulator/brush pack and see what happens'. 

But I have some questions:

Is the brush pack externally accessible?
If not, can I directly swap in an alternator that does have a quick detach 
brush pack, like the one from my 1999 E320?

How do I tell if it's a Valeo or Bosch alternator?

Where do I buy the brush pack?

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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Hmm - and Sandisk is supposed to be one of the best SSD brands, last I
knew. Was it covered under warranty?

It looks like there is yet another form factor in the wild:
SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series M.2 2280 1TB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State
Drive (SSD)

I wonder if there are adapters to old SATA controllers?


On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On April 11, 2018 at 4:45 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have read that SSDs have a much longer lifespan, and are a lot faster
> to boot (pun attempt).
>
> I bought a Sandisk Ultra II two years ago, wanting reliability more than
> speed.
> Installed it in February, it crashed completely, suddenly and permanently
> in July.
> Never had a platter drive die in less than a year in all my life.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On April 11, 2018 at 4:45 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have read that SSDs have a much longer lifespan, and are a lot faster to 
> boot (pun attempt).

I bought a Sandisk Ultra II two years ago, wanting reliability more than speed. 
Installed it in February, it crashed completely, suddenly and permanently in 
July. 
Never had a platter drive die in less than a year in all my life.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I haven't had to do this kind of stuff in many years, but last I remember,
copying a disk does not get the MBR, just the files and directories. A
clone would get the MBR, but how that works with a disk of a different size
I don't know. You used to have to purchase software to do this stuff
decently, is there freeware that works now? I'm running W10 . . .
I'm guessing boot to a Linux USB drive with the utilities, then clone the
old drives to the new ones?

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:31:23 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Should be able to.  Or create the partition you want, then transfer the
> > files over...
>
> Copying the disk will get the Master Boot Record as well as the files ...
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> > Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > > On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:18:20 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
> > >   wrote:
> > >
> > >> My boot disk and the second disk - used for backing up photos, etc.
> > >> are almost full. This is an older (9 years old) HP consumer box.
> > >>
> > >> I'm seeing 4TB disks for reasonable prices, Seagate and Western
> > >> Digital. What have the rest of you experienced in terms of drive
> > >> reliability/life?
> > >
> > > I have been burned by Seagate and now buy Western Digital, most
> > > recently a 1 TByte WD Gold for the new computer I'm assembling.
> > >
> > >
> > >> I'd hate to have to rebuild the box from scratch, with the licensing
> > >> hassles from M$ and Adobe, etc., but am also thinking of one of
> > >> those HP workstations Curt was recommending a few years ago.
> > >
> > > Can you not copy your disks to a larger disk and then use a partition
> > > editor to increase the size to that of the larger disk?
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have read that SSDs have a much longer lifespan, and are a lot faster to boot 
(pun attempt).

Also, I too favor WD over the competition.

My solution was a NAS with a pair of red 4TB WD HDs. The cost for the WD 
MyCloud Mirror was no more than the cost of the 2 HDs in it. It also runs my 
HDHomerun DVR software in its spare time.

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:18 AM
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Cc: OK Don
Subject: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

My boot disk and the second disk - used for backing up photos, etc. are almost 
full. This is an older (9 years old) HP consumer box.

I'm seeing 4TB disks for reasonable prices, Seagate and Western Digital.
What have the rest of you experienced in terms of drive reliability/life?

I only have two drive bays in the case - seems inadequate today . . .

I'd hate to have to rebuild the box from scratch, with the licensing hassles 
from M$ and Adobe, etc., but am also thinking of one of those HP workstations 
Curt was recommending a few years ago.


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themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Guy dropped his price

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Too bad there are no photos.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 1:51 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bought my daughter's E320 from this guy, he was wanting like $4300 a year 
> ago, looks like he came down $1k.  Was not a bad car, might be reasonable at 
> a bit less than this.
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1994-mercedes-s350-diesel-big/6551019710.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Someone needs this dizzel G coupé

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Max sez:

>Please send guns, lawyers and money.

Okay. 

https://youtu.be/lP5Xv7QqXiM

"I went home with a waitress, the way I always do. How was I to know, she was 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

If you’re buying a single drive, splurge and buy an enterprise grade drive. 
Well worth the extra bucks.

-D former data center guy

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:31:23 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Should be able to.  Or create the partition you want, then transfer the 
>> files over...
> 
> Copying the disk will get the Master Boot Record as well as the files ...
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> 
>> Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>>> On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:18:20 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
>>>   wrote:
>>> 
 My boot disk and the second disk - used for backing up photos, etc.
 are almost full. This is an older (9 years old) HP consumer box.
 
 I'm seeing 4TB disks for reasonable prices, Seagate and Western
 Digital. What have the rest of you experienced in terms of drive
 reliability/life?
>>> 
>>> I have been burned by Seagate and now buy Western Digital, most
>>> recently a 1 TByte WD Gold for the new computer I'm assembling.
>>> 
>>> 
 I'd hate to have to rebuild the box from scratch, with the licensing
 hassles from M$ and Adobe, etc., but am also thinking of one of
 those HP workstations Curt was recommending a few years ago.
>>> 
>>> Can you not copy your disks to a larger disk and then use a partition
>>> editor to increase the size to that of the larger disk?
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Re: [MBZ] Someone needs this dizzel G coupé

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, I need it.  Please send guns, lawyers and money.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-gelndewagen
> gd-wagon/6556966827.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:31:23 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Should be able to.  Or create the partition you want, then transfer the 
> files over...

Copying the disk will get the Master Boot Record as well as the files ...


Craig



> Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:18:20 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
> >   wrote:
> >
> >> My boot disk and the second disk - used for backing up photos, etc.
> >> are almost full. This is an older (9 years old) HP consumer box.
> >>
> >> I'm seeing 4TB disks for reasonable prices, Seagate and Western
> >> Digital. What have the rest of you experienced in terms of drive
> >> reliability/life?
> >
> > I have been burned by Seagate and now buy Western Digital, most
> > recently a 1 TByte WD Gold for the new computer I'm assembling.
> >
> >
> >> I'd hate to have to rebuild the box from scratch, with the licensing
> >> hassles from M$ and Adobe, etc., but am also thinking of one of
> >> those HP workstations Curt was recommending a few years ago.
> >
> > Can you not copy your disks to a larger disk and then use a partition
> > editor to increase the size to that of the larger disk?

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[MBZ] Guy dropped his price

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I bought my daughter's E320 from this guy, he was wanting like $4300 a 
year ago, looks like he came down $1k.  Was not a bad car, might be 
reasonable at a bit less than this.


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1994-mercedes-s350-diesel-big/6551019710.html

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[MBZ] Someone needs this dizzel G coupé

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-gelndewagengd-wagon/6556966827.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have recently bought a couple from Newegg I think, I want to say HGTV 
brand (!) but that's not right, but it is something like that.  They got 
pretty good reviews for whatever that is worth. They were a bit more 
expensive than the Seagate and WDs which got poor reviews.  I'm not sure 
any of them are very good these days, some seem to be built better.


I would suggest getting 2 and putting them in external holders (cheap) 
and mirroring your HD to both of them so you have some reliability and 
redundancy.


DanP is probably one of our resident experts on this kind of stuff, see 
what he says


--FT


On 4/11/18 2:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

My boot disk and the second disk - used for backing up photos, etc. are
almost full. This is an older (9 years old) HP consumer box.

I'm seeing 4TB disks for reasonable prices, Seagate and Western Digital.
What have the rest of you experienced in terms of drive reliability/life?

I only have two drive bays in the case - seems inadequate today . . .

I'd hate to have to rebuild the box from scratch, with the licensing
hassles from M$ and Adobe, etc., but am also thinking of one of those HP
workstations Curt was recommending a few years ago.




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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Should be able to.  Or create the partition you want, then transfer the 
files over...



Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:18:20 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
  wrote:


My boot disk and the second disk - used for backing up photos, etc. are
almost full. This is an older (9 years old) HP consumer box.

I'm seeing 4TB disks for reasonable prices, Seagate and Western Digital.
What have the rest of you experienced in terms of drive
reliability/life?


I have been burned by Seagate and now buy Western Digital, most recently
a 1 TByte WD Gold for the new computer I'm assembling.



I'd hate to have to rebuild the box from scratch, with the licensing
hassles from M$ and Adobe, etc., but am also thinking of one of those HP
workstations Curt was recommending a few years ago.


Can you not copy your disks to a larger disk and then use a partition
editor to increase the size to that of the larger disk?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:18:20 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> My boot disk and the second disk - used for backing up photos, etc. are
> almost full. This is an older (9 years old) HP consumer box.
> 
> I'm seeing 4TB disks for reasonable prices, Seagate and Western Digital.
> What have the rest of you experienced in terms of drive
> reliability/life?

I have been burned by Seagate and now buy Western Digital, most recently
a 1 TByte WD Gold for the new computer I'm assembling.


> I'd hate to have to rebuild the box from scratch, with the licensing
> hassles from M$ and Adobe, etc., but am also thinking of one of those HP
> workstations Curt was recommending a few years ago.

Can you not copy your disks to a larger disk and then use a partition
editor to increase the size to that of the larger disk?


Craig

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[MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[OK Don via Mercedes]

My boot disk and the second disk - used for backing up photos, etc. are
almost full. This is an older (9 years old) HP consumer box.

I'm seeing 4TB disks for reasonable prices, Seagate and Western Digital.
What have the rest of you experienced in terms of drive reliability/life?

I only have two drive bays in the case - seems inadequate today . . .

I'd hate to have to rebuild the box from scratch, with the licensing
hassles from M$ and Adobe, etc., but am also thinking of one of those HP
workstations Curt was recommending a few years ago.


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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

215/55R16

--FT


On 4/10/18 7:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:59:04 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:


What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and
Nokian?  Something else?

What size tires does it use?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> I am needing the stickiest 14” tires I can find to put on the SD.  Anybody
> have a recommendation?


The Michelins I put on the 560SL many years ago really impressed me in the
rain.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Do you use the .50 on them thangs?

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> On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:32 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks... meant to type "Sipes" .. somehow it came out "snipes" ... I stand
> corrected...
> 
> I don't actually hunt snipes.. I only organize the hunts for visiting city
> boys ;
> 
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sipes  You hunt snipes.  tars have sipes.  Microsipes are good.
>> 
>> G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> Look for tires with extra sipes in the tread. The little slots that open
>>> up and channel water out of the tread to stop hydroplaning.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Autocorrect?

G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks... meant to type "Sipes" .. somehow it came out "snipes" ... I stand
corrected...

I don't actually hunt snipes.. I only organize the hunts for visiting city
boys ;





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