Re: [MBZ] re Short
Either the seat or antenna are shorting out based on your list. Those are the only things I suspect would draw enough magic pixie electrons to cook a fuse. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > On Jul 20, 2018, at 4:52 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Ok, here's the fuse that blew - Position C - it controls the following: > > Rear roof light > > trunk light > > rear door locking system > > seat back arrestor > > central locking > > door lights > > reading lights > > Auto Antenna > > Control Unit Seat Adjustment > > But if one of these were left on, I think the battery would run down (which > it did) but I don't think it would blow a fuse. > > The above is FYI in case someone knows a reason for my battery to discharge > in 2 or 3 days. > BTW, I charged it at 40A for 1.5 hours and it raised it to 12.15V - almost > where I want it to be when cranking the engine. > > TIA! > LarryT > 91 300D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Key head question for 1983 300TD
Those are junk and do not last. IIRC, somebody on the list was making wood key heads a few years back. Those would be really good and long life clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > On Jul 20, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I need one of these but they are uber pricey. Is there any way to > disassemble an existing key head on a key I no longer need without > destroying it? I have fiddled around with a small flathead screwdriver but > fear ripping it apart. A local locksmith also tried and gave up. > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Key-Blank-Head-fits-1965-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-240D-300CD-WD-EXPRESS/132675456265?epid=140178608&hash=item1ee412cd09:g:ClYAAOSwRyRbIH~6&vxp=mtr > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attention Mitch and others in MI area
This is the address he uses to post here. mi...@mitchellhaley.com Rick From: Mercedes on behalf of Michael Esh via Mercedes Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 6:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Michael Esh Subject: Re: [MBZ] Attention Mitch and others in MI area How can I contact him? I cannot log in to to peachparts. Is there an email or phone number someone could send me? Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh > On Jul 20, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > The 350 SDL deal - Kaleb price > > http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/394265-350sdl-deal.html > > > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W201 Heater Core
On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 23:45:04 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Well, this car is a 1990. I think they changed over to R134a in 1993. > Perhaps the evaporators are different? I'll have to check. I'm sure the condensers are different; I don't know about the evaporators. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attention Mitch and others in MI area
How can I contact him? I cannot log in to to peachparts. Is there an email or phone number someone could send me? Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh > On Jul 20, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > The 350 SDL deal - Kaleb price > > http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/394265-350sdl-deal.html > > > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] the value of a five digit odometer...
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Re: [MBZ] re Short
Larry: Classic battery flattening problem is a bad light delay relay. It's a solid state relay that turns off the interior lights after a delay, and when it goes bad it draws a couple amps after the lights are off. Sadly, the only way to check is to check the current draw when the lights go off, as it still shuts them down on time. My brother and I have both replaced at least one. Also check for a broken door switch, or a loose wire. They can short, or stay on, and that will drain the battery. If a wire is loose it can short, which will pop the fuse. Central locking is a vaccum/pressure pump, and it fails it can stay on (its in the trunk on the sedans, you may not hear it run), can also run the battery down and/or pop a fuse. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] re Short
Ok, here's the fuse that blew - Position C - it controls the following: Rear roof light trunk light rear door locking system seat back arrestor central locking door lights reading lights Auto Antenna Control Unit Seat Adjustment But if one of these were left on, I think the battery would run down (which it did) but I don't think it would blow a fuse. The above is FYI in case someone knows a reason for my battery to discharge in 2 or 3 days. BTW, I charged it at 40A for 1.5 hours and it raised it to 12.15V - almost where I want it to be when cranking the engine. TIA! LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Short
If the problem is not the glow relay, the easiest way is to disconnect the positive battery terminal, set your meter for measuring current, put one lead on the positive battery post and use the other to touch each fuse in turn. Any fuse that draws more than ten or fifteen milli amps is suspect. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 20, 2018 6:21:29 PM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >Hi Gang! > >Tuesday, I put the spare battery from the 240D in my 91 300D and it >fired right up without any charging needed. I put my DMM on it and it >read in excess of 13V and after the GPs heated it fired instantly. > >Today, I planned to start it and maybe run it around the block - maybe >more just to give it some exercise but when we turned the key, not even > >the lights in the dash are lit! So I got my DMM again and checked the >voltage in the battery and it is down to a little over 2! But I can >charge it. I disconnected the neg cable and it is charging at 40amps. > >My question is (finally, right?) and I need to know how to find the >short. Just out of curiosity I checked the Fuses and found fuse "C" >was >blown - something unusual - I checked the map and C protects the seat >motors, Trunk Light and some other stuff - I'll write all of that down >shortly. > >So, I can disconnect the battery to prevent discharge but I'm wondering > >how to troubleshoot what I always called a dead short. > >I can pull the fuses one by one and check the rate of discharge but >with >so many fuses that'll take a while. > >Thx, > >LarryT > >91 300D > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W201 Heater Core
Well, this car is a 1990. I think they changed over to R134a in 1993. Perhaps the evaporators are different? I'll have to check. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Short
Had a weird one this week. Neighbor can't start his truck. (1996 Chevy 1500 pickup) Puts it on the charger, drives his wife's truck to work. Calls me up and asks me to look at it, he doesn't think it's charging. I go over there and it's DEAD, like Larry's car after being parked all week with a big current draw, but his truck did it overnight. I jump start his 'smart' charger with my 'dumb' charger. Six hours later, it's still charging. He gets home, it starts right up, alternator is working fine. He'll leave it on the charger until the charger shuts off. Next morning it's still charging, he buys new battery. While putting new battery in, he hears a clicking noise. Calls me over to investigate, it's his AC clutch. It's engaging as soon as you hook up the battery, with the key out of the truck and the AC off, in fact he never turned it on as long as he owned the truck. Pull the AC relay, no more clicking. And probably nothing wrong with the battery he just traded in. (Autozone Duralast battery dated 11/2007) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W201 Heater Core
I don't know if the 201 series suffered that fate, maybe in the 90's cars? But yes, great time to replace that and the vacuum pods. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 20, 2018 7:23:13 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >Thanks Max. > >Hmm. Good time to do the evaporator also, I assume. > > >Rick > >From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >Sent: July 20, 2018 6:07 PM >To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >Cc: dillonm...@gmail.com >Subject: Re: [MBZ] W201 Heater Core > > >One weekend, pull the dash. >-- >Max Dillon >Charleston SC >'87 300TD >'95 E300 > >On July 20, 2018 6:15:20 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: >>How bad of a job is a W201 heater core? >> >>Rick >> >>___ >>http://www.okiebenz.com >> >>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Time/Labor calculator`
I'll take one! I have to find out what MB says a W201 heater core takes. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: July 20, 2018 5:44 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: [MBZ] Mercedes Time/Labor calculator` Hi All (again), When looking for my fuse description I came across something I found years ago - probably in the 90s - called a Mercedes Time and Labor Calculator. It used to work but I haven't tried it in a while. Anyway, it's in a zip file that I will be happy to send to anyone who wants it. Send me a note to i...@youroil.net (or thru Mercedes@okie) ;-) and I will send a copy right out. Ya'll have fun! LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W201 Heater Core
Thanks Max. Hmm. Good time to do the evaporator also, I assume. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: July 20, 2018 6:07 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: dillonm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W201 Heater Core One weekend, pull the dash. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 20, 2018 6:15:20 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >How bad of a job is a W201 heater core? > >Rick > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Short
The pre-glow relay is notorious for sticking on and killing the battery. With the engine off and a fully charged battery, checck the battery voltage with the battery connected. Disconnect or remove the fuse for the relay, see if the voltage increases. If you see a jump, the relay is sticking. You may want to start the car, let it run a bit, then shut it off and repeat the test. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 20, 2018 6:21:29 PM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >Hi Gang! > >Tuesday, I put the spare battery from the 240D in my 91 300D and it >fired right up without any charging needed. I put my DMM on it and it >read in excess of 13V and after the GPs heated it fired instantly. > >Today, I planned to start it and maybe run it around the block - maybe >more just to give it some exercise but when we turned the key, not even > >the lights in the dash are lit! So I got my DMM again and checked the >voltage in the battery and it is down to a little over 2! But I can >charge it. I disconnected the neg cable and it is charging at 40amps. > >My question is (finally, right?) and I need to know how to find the >short. Just out of curiosity I checked the Fuses and found fuse "C" >was >blown - something unusual - I checked the map and C protects the seat >motors, Trunk Light and some other stuff - I'll write all of that down >shortly. > >So, I can disconnect the battery to prevent discharge but I'm wondering > >how to troubleshoot what I always called a dead short. > >I can pull the fuses one by one and check the rate of discharge but >with >so many fuses that'll take a while. > >Thx, > >LarryT > >91 300D > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W201 Heater Core
One weekend, pull the dash. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 20, 2018 6:15:20 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >How bad of a job is a W201 heater core? > >Rick > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes Time/Labor calculator`
Hi All (again), When looking for my fuse description I came across something I found years ago - probably in the 90s - called a Mercedes Time and Labor Calculator. It used to work but I haven't tried it in a while. Anyway, it's in a zip file that I will be happy to send to anyone who wants it. Send me a note to i...@youroil.net (or thru Mercedes@okie) ;-) and I will send a copy right out. Ya'll have fun! LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My 91 300D Rear Hub etc.
The bearing is pressed into the wheel carrier, and then the hub is pressed into the center of the bearing. Don't want you to end up with half of what you need, eh? Three parts there. The axle does indeed fit on a spline through the hub. It also holds the bearing together, so the nut needs to be tightened correctly. Failed to do that once and had to repeat the job. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Short
Hi Gang! Tuesday, I put the spare battery from the 240D in my 91 300D and it fired right up without any charging needed. I put my DMM on it and it read in excess of 13V and after the GPs heated it fired instantly. Today, I planned to start it and maybe run it around the block - maybe more just to give it some exercise but when we turned the key, not even the lights in the dash are lit! So I got my DMM again and checked the voltage in the battery and it is down to a little over 2! But I can charge it. I disconnected the neg cable and it is charging at 40amps. My question is (finally, right?) and I need to know how to find the short. Just out of curiosity I checked the Fuses and found fuse "C" was blown - something unusual - I checked the map and C protects the seat motors, Trunk Light and some other stuff - I'll write all of that down shortly. So, I can disconnect the battery to prevent discharge but I'm wondering how to troubleshoot what I always called a dead short. I can pull the fuses one by one and check the rate of discharge but with so many fuses that'll take a while. Thx, LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W201 Heater Core
How bad of a job is a W201 heater core? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Key head question for 1983 300TD
I have a boxful of 123 key blanks if that would help. My CD came with washer welded to the key. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Jul 20, 2018 3:03 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks. I would not have thought of that. > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Heat up the plastic head by dipping in boiling water, that should soften > it > > up enough that you can pull out the insert. I'd recommend using a needle > > nose plyers to grab the insert and pull. > > > > - > > Max > > Charleston SC > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Meade Dillon > > wrote: > > > > > I think you should just use JB Weld to attach a washer to the metal > key, > > > that will probably be cheap enough for you > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Max > > > Charleston SC > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > >> I need one of these but they are uber pricey. Is there any way to > > >> disassemble an existing key head on a key I no longer need without > > >> destroying it? I have fiddled around with a small flathead > screwdriver > > >> but > > >> fear ripping it apart. A local locksmith also tried and gave up. > > >> > > >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Key-Blank-Head-fits-1965- > > >> 1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-240D-300CD-WD-EXPRESS/132675456265? > > >> epid=140178608&hash=item1ee412cd09:g:ClYAAOSwRyRbIH~6&vxp=mtr > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Key head question for 1983 300TD
I have since found them on AutohausAZ for under $13.00 PN is 0007664406 On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 20/07/2018 1:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> I need one of these but they are uber pricey. Is there any way to >> disassemble an existing key head on a key I no longer need without >> destroying it? I have fiddled around with a small flathead screwdriver >> but >> fear ripping it apart. A local locksmith also tried and gave up. >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Key-Blank-Head-fits-1965- >> 1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-240D-300CD-WD-EXPRESS/132675456265? >> epid=140178608&hash=item1ee412cd09:g:ClYAAOSwRyRbIH~6&vxp=mtr >> ___ >> > > A couple of comments for you. > > Firstly that price is silly. > I ordered a couple of keys for my car a few years back and I think the > plastic part was about $6 from the dealer. > I think I would check the dealer price. > > Secondly, they did not last very long. They are soft and I assume that may > be to prevent injury in an accident but the softness of the rubber or > plastic or whatever it is meant it did not last very long before it tore. I > then had it wrapped with a zip tie. When it does tear, you are at risk of > losing the key. When mine first came apart I did not lose the key but it > fell down between the seat and the center hump. I was a long way from home > and wondered how I was going to fish the key out from under the seat track. > I thought I might have to go in search of a place to buy some tools and > remove the driver's seat. Fortunately I managed to get it out and was able > to use it without the plastic bit to get the car started and go home. > > In my opinion, I would not use the "genuine" junk. > Find some other means of making it work. I think Wilton made a key head > out of wood and posted a photo way back. > > I had one original key with the hard plastic head and that is what I have > been using. The other 2 keys with the broken soft plastic keys are now just > spares. > > RB > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Key head question for 1983 300TD
On 20/07/2018 1:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I need one of these but they are uber pricey. Is there any way to disassemble an existing key head on a key I no longer need without destroying it? I have fiddled around with a small flathead screwdriver but fear ripping it apart. A local locksmith also tried and gave up. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Key-Blank-Head-fits-1965-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-240D-300CD-WD-EXPRESS/132675456265?epid=140178608&hash=item1ee412cd09:g:ClYAAOSwRyRbIH~6&vxp=mtr ___ A couple of comments for you. Firstly that price is silly. I ordered a couple of keys for my car a few years back and I think the plastic part was about $6 from the dealer. I think I would check the dealer price. Secondly, they did not last very long. They are soft and I assume that may be to prevent injury in an accident but the softness of the rubber or plastic or whatever it is meant it did not last very long before it tore. I then had it wrapped with a zip tie. When it does tear, you are at risk of losing the key. When mine first came apart I did not lose the key but it fell down between the seat and the center hump. I was a long way from home and wondered how I was going to fish the key out from under the seat track. I thought I might have to go in search of a place to buy some tools and remove the driver's seat. Fortunately I managed to get it out and was able to use it without the plastic bit to get the car started and go home. In my opinion, I would not use the "genuine" junk. Find some other means of making it work. I think Wilton made a key head out of wood and posted a photo way back. I had one original key with the hard plastic head and that is what I have been using. The other 2 keys with the broken soft plastic keys are now just spares. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Key head question for 1983 300TD
Creativity not a factor here. I want a genuine OEM Mercedes key head. On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 3:30 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > Be creative, make a wooden head for it. > > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> I need one of these but they are uber pricey. Is there any way to >> disassemble an existing key head on a key I no longer need without >> destroying it? I have fiddled around with a small flathead screwdriver >> but >> fear ripping it apart. A local locksmith also tried and gave up. >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Key-Blank-Head-fits-1965- >> 1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-240D-300CD-WD-EXPRESS/132675456265? >> epid=140178608&hash=item1ee412cd09:g:ClYAAOSwRyRbIH~6&vxp=mtr >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dan Penoff's phone number?
On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 15:02:46 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Just sent it to you by text message. Now I have to turn my phone on! Thank you, Craig > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Does anyone have Dan Penoff's phone number? > > > > I tried looking on-line for his phone number and what used to be free > > they now say is "premium" information and charge $4.99 for. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Key head question for 1983 300TD
Be creative, make a wooden head for it. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I need one of these but they are uber pricey. Is there any way to disassemble an existing key head on a key I no longer need without destroying it? I have fiddled around with a small flathead screwdriver but fear ripping it apart. A local locksmith also tried and gave up. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Key-Blank-Head-fits-1965-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-240D-300CD-WD-EXPRESS/132675456265?epid=140178608&hash=item1ee412cd09:g:ClYAAOSwRyRbIH~6&vxp=mtr ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Key head question for 1983 300TD
Thanks. I would not have thought of that. On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Heat up the plastic head by dipping in boiling water, that should soften it > up enough that you can pull out the insert. I'd recommend using a needle > nose plyers to grab the insert and pull. > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Meade Dillon > wrote: > > > I think you should just use JB Weld to attach a washer to the metal key, > > that will probably be cheap enough for you > > > > > > > > - > > Max > > Charleston SC > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> I need one of these but they are uber pricey. Is there any way to > >> disassemble an existing key head on a key I no longer need without > >> destroying it? I have fiddled around with a small flathead screwdriver > >> but > >> fear ripping it apart. A local locksmith also tried and gave up. > >> > >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Key-Blank-Head-fits-1965- > >> 1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-240D-300CD-WD-EXPRESS/132675456265? > >> epid=140178608&hash=item1ee412cd09:g:ClYAAOSwRyRbIH~6&vxp=mtr > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dan Penoff's phone number?
Just sent it to you by text message. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > Does anyone have Dan Penoff's phone number? > > I tried looking on-line for his phone number and what used to be free > they now say is "premium" information and charge $4.99 for. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dan Penoff's phone number?
Does anyone have Dan Penoff's phone number? I tried looking on-line for his phone number and what used to be free they now say is "premium" information and charge $4.99 for. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Key head question for 1983 300TD
Heat up the plastic head by dipping in boiling water, that should soften it up enough that you can pull out the insert. I'd recommend using a needle nose plyers to grab the insert and pull. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: > I think you should just use JB Weld to attach a washer to the metal key, > that will probably be cheap enough for you > > > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I need one of these but they are uber pricey. Is there any way to >> disassemble an existing key head on a key I no longer need without >> destroying it? I have fiddled around with a small flathead screwdriver >> but >> fear ripping it apart. A local locksmith also tried and gave up. >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Key-Blank-Head-fits-1965- >> 1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-240D-300CD-WD-EXPRESS/132675456265? >> epid=140178608&hash=item1ee412cd09:g:ClYAAOSwRyRbIH~6&vxp=mtr >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Key head question for 1983 300TD
I think you should just use JB Weld to attach a washer to the metal key, that will probably be cheap enough for you - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I need one of these but they are uber pricey. Is there any way to > disassemble an existing key head on a key I no longer need without > destroying it? I have fiddled around with a small flathead screwdriver but > fear ripping it apart. A local locksmith also tried and gave up. > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Key-Blank-Head-fits- > 1965-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-240D-300CD-WD-EXPRESS/ > 132675456265?epid=140178608&hash=item1ee412cd09:g:ClYAAOSwRyRbIH~6&vxp=mtr > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Key head question for 1983 300TD
I need one of these but they are uber pricey. Is there any way to disassemble an existing key head on a key I no longer need without destroying it? I have fiddled around with a small flathead screwdriver but fear ripping it apart. A local locksmith also tried and gave up. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Key-Blank-Head-fits-1965-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-240D-300CD-WD-EXPRESS/132675456265?epid=140178608&hash=item1ee412cd09:g:ClYAAOSwRyRbIH~6&vxp=mtr ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Andrew
As long as they are driven regularly and the gasoline isn't allowed to turn into varnish inside the fuel pumps etc. My pop bought a 108 coupe with fuel injection on eBay years ago, and he paid more to have the fuel injection system rebuilt than he did for the car. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I owned several D Jetronic coupes and sedans and they were all bulletproof. > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > On July 20, 2018 at 10:44 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Good point about the non-fuel injection. > > > > In the 60s and early 70s, D-Jetronic was a huge selling point. > > Today, especially in a hobby/collector car, I'd much rather have a > > carburetor or two, especially if the carb rebuild kit is still available. > > Cleaning a carb is much easier than fixing D-Jet. > > > > Mitch. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '78 Land Yacht attracts fierce bidding on BAT
The American Truckster? On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The Griswolds must be looking for a new ride... > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Old station wagons are in vogue now. Low miles Chrysler LeBaron with > > unresolved issues; not my cup of tea exactly but others salivate. > > > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-chrysler-lebaron- > > town-country-2/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email& > > utm_campaign=2018-07-19 > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Andrew
I owned several D Jetronic coupes and sedans and they were all bulletproof. On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On July 20, 2018 at 10:44 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Good point about the non-fuel injection. > > In the 60s and early 70s, D-Jetronic was a huge selling point. > Today, especially in a hobby/collector car, I'd much rather have a > carburetor or two, especially if the carb rebuild kit is still available. > Cleaning a carb is much easier than fixing D-Jet. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Attention Mitch and others in MI area
The 350 SDL deal - Kaleb price http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/394265-350sdl-deal.html - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Portable air conditioners
I think an RV unit would be worth looking into, maybe they can also be side mounted? A 120v powered unit would be easy to power up. Nice white noise to cover the traffic sounds around you... - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '78 Land Yacht attracts fierce bidding on BAT
The Griswolds must be looking for a new ride... - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Old station wagons are in vogue now. Low miles Chrysler LeBaron with > unresolved issues; not my cup of tea exactly but others salivate. > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-chrysler-lebaron- > town-country-2/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email& > utm_campaign=2018-07-19 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Portable air conditioners
On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 10:57:03 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:34 PM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Do you have any experience with those? Mounted in the middle of a > > sheet metal drum, I cannot see how they would be anything but noisy. > > No, no experience at all, but a friend was helping someone else replace > the AC in their motorhome before a trip to CA last month, which made me > think of them. Perhaps visit an RV dealer and see what's available? They > sleep in RVs also - - - Well, yes, that's true, but RVs are typically larger than the sleeper in our truck. I would expect that in RVs people do not sleep directly under the AC unit and its outlet, which is why I'm concerned about noise. That, and cutting a hole in the roof. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '78 Land Yacht attracts fierce bidding on BAT
Old station wagons are in vogue now. Low miles Chrysler LeBaron with unresolved issues; not my cup of tea exactly but others salivate. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-chrysler-lebaron-town-country-2/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018-07-19 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] enjoy
Copyright complaints maybe? The video was there yesterday but now it says it is unavailable. Still on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax7pRMDPXhw RB On 20/07/2018 8:59 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Your machine been hacked by the rooskies? No video at the link... - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: http://ajournalofmusicalthings.com/this-trump-putin-video- mashup-with-the-opening-theme-of-the-golden-girls-is-close-to-perfect/ ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Portable air conditioners
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:34 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:40:17 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Would an RV AC unit work for the sleeper cab? > > Perhaps, but I would expect the noise you mention above to be rather > overbearing. Plus, I would have to cut a hole in the roof -- and you > know what Wilton thinks about that! > > Do you have any experience with those? Mounted in the middle of a sheet > metal drum, I cannot see how they would be anything but noisy. > > No, no experience at all, but a friend was helping someone else replace the AC in their motorhome before a trip to CA last month, which made me think of them. Perhaps visit an RV dealer and see what's available? They sleep in RVs also - - - -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Andrew
> On July 20, 2018 at 10:44 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Good point about the non-fuel injection. In the 60s and early 70s, D-Jetronic was a huge selling point. Today, especially in a hobby/collector car, I'd much rather have a carburetor or two, especially if the carb rebuild kit is still available. Cleaning a carb is much easier than fixing D-Jet. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Portable air conditioners
We bought one to run off our generator during a power outage in DC 5 years ago. I believe it was made my Frigidaire. Worked great but you need a sash window for best results. On Jul 20, 2018 12:23 AM, "Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Make? Model? No idea. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > > Craig via Mercedes > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:24 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Cc: Craig > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Portable air conditioners > > > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 15:22:19 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > My original HVAC contractor put a portable AC in my house as a > > > temporary measure. It sucked: noisy and ineffective. > > > > What make/model was the bad portable A/C? > > > > > > Craig > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT whinging
"the decision depends solely on the Judge" Now there's someone I'd like to depend on for my life. Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Much of your problem in the USA, is that you use a civil jury system. The jury feels sympathetic to the family of the victim and not to the insurance company that they assume is footing the bill. We don't have that here. No civil jury trials here in decades. Unfortunately, that also has ramifications. Then the decision depends solely on the Judge and that can produce some odd decisions too. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Andrew
Good point about the non-fuel injection. I might agree with you about the unique interior but the seller needs two wealthy collectors with similar taste trying to outbid each other in order to exceed $30k. On Jul 19, 2018 11:46 PM, "Dimitri" wrote: > I’m not contesting your estimate which may very well be realistic, but I > don’t, however, feel that a lack of V8 motor matters here. More like lack > of fuel injection. In my opinion, the unique interior is a plus! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 19, 2018, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > I agree that it's a stunning car, meticulously restored. I just don't > feel that sort of money is realistic for a non-v8 sedan with AT on the > column, unique interior upholstery and manual windows. I also suspect it > has a manual antenna. > > Mid $20s is my guess. > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Dimitri wrote: > >> Reboring an engine doesn’t affect originality or value. In this instance, >> the high quality of the mechanical restoration will drive the value way up >> in my opinion. Jaime brought this car to ChowdahQ last year and it was a >> stunner. He refinished all the wood himself in a very professional (perhaps >> better than professional) manner! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Jul 19, 2018, at 3:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > I doubt it - engine has been rebored so it is no longer stock/original. >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> >> I'm predicting this one will go over $35k. >> >> Maybe $40. For the seller's sake, I hope so. >> >> I can't wait to see what project the proceeds from this sale will >> bring. >> >> >> >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-mercedes-benz-250s-4/ >> >> >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT whinging
Thanks! Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: There are three connectors above the mower deck, on the right side I think. One goes to the switch on the deck that tells the tractor whether the blades are engaged. It plugs into wires that go to the engine. Another plug, much like the one from the mower deck, is a dummy plug that you plug into so that you can go backwards with the deck removed. Just plug into that, and you can mow backwards to take care of that spot you missed on the last turn. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One for Poos
Looks like a rotten peach to me. Front bumper missing (rusted and fell off?), dash wood looks like hell, nice scratch / dent on the rear fender. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 4:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > MB batteries used to be only 15 % above diehard prices. > > On Jul 19, 2018 4:44 PM, "clay monroe via Mercedes" > > wrote: > > > It means somebody paid at least twice retail from FLAPS > > > > clay > > > > 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green > > 1986 SDL - Polei > > 1982 300 SD - Allen > > > > retired models- > > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap > > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery > > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran > > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV > > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2018, at 12:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Does a MBZ battery imply above average maintenance? > > > > > > Mitch. > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] enjoy
Your machine been hacked by the rooskies? No video at the link... - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > http://ajournalofmusicalthings.com/this-trump-putin-video- > mashup-with-the-opening-theme-of-the-golden-girls-is-close-to-perfect/ > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My 91 300D Rear Hub etc.
Hi Peter, just to be sure I understand what you are saying when you wrote, "not just the hub that presses into the bearing." - I thought the bearing presses into the hub, not the other way around? Then the axle slides thru the center of the bearing..., no? I think it is easy for me to stumble over the various names these parts seem to have... Thanks, Larry On 07/16/2018 4:31 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Make sure it's the complete wheel carrier, not just the hub that presses into the bearing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My 91 300D Rear Hub etc.
Max's comment about ASR helps because I don't have ASR - only ABS - so hopefully that's not going to be a concern. But it looks like I should try to find parts from cars close in manufacture to mine to minimize problems and to state my 91 300D is non ASR. I've been looking at Car-Part.com list of parts and they have a listing for Knee (see also Strut Assy) so I tried searing for that. In the end it will take one on one talking to the junk yard guy on the phone if I can get them. Our local yard never answers the phone - they say come look and see if we have what you need. ;-^ OK guys, my local shop for state insp is booked til next week but I will go then and try to get a photo of the underside - LarryT On 07/17/2018 8:41 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 17, 2018 at 8:29 AM Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Hmmm, so a much newer part might fit? When I look at Car-part.com, for the rear knuckle they give me parts ranging from a 1984 W201 to 1994 R129/W124/W202. The newest right rear knuckles available in the US that car-part thinks will fit a 1991 300D are from 1994. Maybe they went to 4 channel ABS or made some other change in 1995? If I search for a 1995 E300D, the results range from 1995 124/129/202 to 2000 C class. It seems a bit odd, because I thought a 1994 W124 was identical to a 1995 W124. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My 91 300D Rear Hub etc.
Thanks Max - very helpful! On 07/17/2018 8:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Only the cars with ASR got 4 channel ABS. Most 124 are 3 channel, with third sensor at input to differential. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
