Re: [MBZ] Short
I'm a big fan of load testing batteries. Over the years I've had several NEW batteries fail to pass load test after only a short time. In each instance, I spent many dollars and much time trying to sort out my "electrical problem", only to discover the "new battery" was my electrical problem... Quick to do... gives good foundation to start sorting other issues. YMMV. Grant... On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 7:44 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The old battery seems to have more life than many newer ones. But I will > have to wait to verify this statement until the replacements fail. What > they replaced were each at least a decade old. The SD had one from 2005 > removed last month. The SDL was around 2003 IIRC when a fresh on went in > December 2017 > > clay > > 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green > 1986 SDL - Polei > 1982 300 SD - Allen > > retired models- > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > > > On Jul 21, 2018, at 5:06 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > It seems to me batteries are lasting much longer than they used to - I > got 13 years from a Optima I bought mid 2000. But the replacement I > bought lasted 5 years so who knows. I have several lead acid batteries > bought in 2013 still alive and well... > > > > Having found out that I have a short of some kind at work forces me to > take another look at the battery I removed from the 300D, especially given > your neighbors experience with the AC clutch... > > > > LarryT. > > > > > > On 07/20/2018 7:38 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > >> Had a weird one this week. > >> Neighbor can't start his truck. (1996 Chevy 1500 pickup) > >> Puts it on the charger, drives his wife's truck to work. > >> Calls me up and asks me to look at it, he doesn't think it's charging. > >> I go over there and it's DEAD, like Larry's car after being parked all > week with a big current draw, but his truck did it overnight. I jump start > his 'smart' charger with my 'dumb' charger. > >> Six hours later, it's still charging. > >> He gets home, it starts right up, alternator is working fine. > >> He'll leave it on the charger until the charger shuts off. > >> Next morning it's still charging, he buys new battery. > >> > >> While putting new battery in, he hears a clicking noise. > >> Calls me over to investigate, it's his AC clutch. It's engaging as soon > as you hook up the battery, with the key out of the truck and the AC off, > in fact he never turned it on as long as he owned the truck. Pull the AC > relay, no more clicking. And probably nothing wrong with the battery he > just traded in. (Autozone Duralast battery dated 11/2007) > >> > >> Mitch. > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Short
The old battery seems to have more life than many newer ones. But I will have to wait to verify this statement until the replacements fail. What they replaced were each at least a decade old. The SD had one from 2005 removed last month. The SDL was around 2003 IIRC when a fresh on went in December 2017 clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > On Jul 21, 2018, at 5:06 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > It seems to me batteries are lasting much longer than they used to - I got 13 > years from a Optima I bought mid 2000. But the replacement I bought lasted > 5 years so who knows. I have several lead acid batteries bought in 2013 > still alive and well... > > Having found out that I have a short of some kind at work forces me to take > another look at the battery I removed from the 300D, especially given your > neighbors experience with the AC clutch... > > LarryT. > > > On 07/20/2018 7:38 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: >> Had a weird one this week. >> Neighbor can't start his truck. (1996 Chevy 1500 pickup) >> Puts it on the charger, drives his wife's truck to work. >> Calls me up and asks me to look at it, he doesn't think it's charging. >> I go over there and it's DEAD, like Larry's car after being parked all week >> with a big current draw, but his truck did it overnight. I jump start his >> 'smart' charger with my 'dumb' charger. >> Six hours later, it's still charging. >> He gets home, it starts right up, alternator is working fine. >> He'll leave it on the charger until the charger shuts off. >> Next morning it's still charging, he buys new battery. >> >> While putting new battery in, he hears a clicking noise. >> Calls me over to investigate, it's his AC clutch. It's engaging as soon as >> you hook up the battery, with the key out of the truck and the AC off, in >> fact he never turned it on as long as he owned the truck. Pull the AC relay, >> no more clicking. And probably nothing wrong with the battery he just traded >> in. (Autozone Duralast battery dated 11/2007) >> >> Mitch. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '78 Land Yacht attracts fierce bidding on BAT
I am not interested in having spyware gizmos in my cars, so I drive the old iron. From the accidents I have been involved in, the spy gizmo in the other car would have convicted the driver of reckless driving, due to the sudden reduction in Delta V to nil in under a second. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > On Jul 21, 2018, at 12:19 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > I wonder how much of this interest in old, quality cars is due to the > governments laws requiring manufacturers to install Event Data Recorders > (EDR's) in new cars? > > The EDR recording of a contestable accident in a newer car might suggest that > the driver was at fault when the other driver in an older car without an EDR > might have actually caused the accident. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_data_recorder#Accessing_event_data_recorder_information > > https://www.carprousa.com/does-your-car-have-a-black-box > > Mercedes didn't appear to have EDRs installed before 2014 > > http://harristechnical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/HTS_CDR_List.pdf > > Gerry > > Meade Dillon wrote: >> The Griswolds must be looking for a new ride... >> - >> Max >> Charleston SC >> >> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Old station wagons are in vogue now. Low miles Chrysler LeBaron with >>> unresolved issues; not my cup of tea exactly but others salivate. >>> >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-chrysler-lebaron- >>> town-country-2/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email& >>> utm_campaign=2018-07-19 >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > -- > arche...@embarqmail.com > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
I enjoyed a rainy day yesterday. From 10AM until midnight we received 5" in the gauge. Highly variable - DCA got under 2"/ On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 5:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I mowed the front yard and roadside - it's down to a balmy 97F from the > 111F two days ago :-) > > On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I put a new H7 bulb in the headlight of the $500E300. 10sec job. > > > > --FT > > Sent from iPhone > > > > > On Jul 22, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did > everyone > > sleep in? > > > > > > LarryT > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - kakistocracy
kakistocracyA Pogo-ism if ever there was one.Where is Walt Kelly when we need him? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560SEC close by
fuel? Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 15:42:49 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: might need to go look at it https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1987-mercedes-560sec/6648090247.html So what is "triple black"? 1. Paint 2. Interior upholstery and dash 3. ? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shampaign Gold paint is rare to find
"I just bought it (title transferred 7/6/18) for $500 and I'm trying to find a sucker to pay me $3k!" Floyd should tell him all the reasons it is only worth $250 and pop his delusions. Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: NOTE: The only reason I'm selling this is that it's now having trouble shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear, could just need a transmission filter/fluid change, could be more serious. $3k crack price https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-benz-300d/6647268799.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Short
When I had inexplicable battery drain, I pulled the antenna elektrick plug, and the drain was gone. One other time, it was inside the Becker radio. Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Hey Max, No problem! It's all a learning experience - I'll go back and read the procedure for the test you suggest. Do I pull them all or 1 at a time? Since I'm measuring Current I assume I do need to change the leads. Never mind, I think I figured it out. ;-) Except for the details about the test. I think I'll also do as Craig suggested. But I still want to learn how to test by pulling the fuses. I'll go back and re-read your emails. Thanks again, Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
RE: engine swap for 110.110.10(190Dc/200D) OM617 won't fit. You'd have to start with a 6 cyl vergasser for that. Om616 will fit, if from a 4 speed car, and with relocation/remote oelfilter. OM601 would probably work, probably with additional massive relocations. OM 616 bell housing will bolt up to the original trans ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
I mowed the front yard and roadside - it's down to a balmy 97F from the 111F two days ago :-) On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I put a new H7 bulb in the headlight of the $500E300. 10sec job. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jul 22, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did everyone > sleep in? > > > > LarryT > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
I put a new H7 bulb in the headlight of the $500E300. 10sec job. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 22, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did everyone > sleep in? > > LarryT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Just a slow day perhaps. - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did everyone > sleep in? > > LarryT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Is the List Down?
Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did everyone sleep in? LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com