date:20181120

More than $500, I’ll bet.

-D


> On Nov 20, 2018, at 11:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m looking for one but afraid to ask how much.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 10:03 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, the 350sdl.
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 9:21 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Are you going to get rid of a car?
>>> 


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I’m looking for one but afraid to ask how much.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 20, 2018, at 10:03 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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> Yes, the 350sdl.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 9:21 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Are you going to get rid of a car?
>> 
>>> On 11/20/2018 8:07 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
>>> My first bid at $11k was already getting out of my comfort zone, and it
>>> became pretty clear that it was going to continue to go up from there
>> given
>>> how much time was left.  I threw in a few more bids, mostly for the fun
>> of
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> The search will continue... I don't need such a perfect one as I'll drive
>>> it every day.  But I'd like it to be low milage enough that I can get
>> some
>>> money for it after putting miles on it for a few years.
>>> 
>>> Jaime
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 6:54 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 If you read the comments/bids, Jaime bid around $12.5 for it, and said
 'too rich for me' a thousand later. After the auction closed, he asked
>> if
 anybody had a nice W140 to sell him, didn't have to be 27k miles. Mine's
 starting to get a little paint peel and some rust in the rear wheel
>> wells
 so it's probably not nice enough for him, but I'd let him have it for
 1/10th of his BAT bid.
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Re: [MBZ] Let's Root for Jaime!

Shoulda bought that 300SDL with 47k miles a couple weeks ago.   Way 
better than a 140/later



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November 20, 2018 at 10:03 PM
Yes, the 350sdl.

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[MBZ] Clay's wheels WUZ: W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

yep, that is why you buy a used maliboo, a horned running goat, a frod 
taurus type, or a rice burner...   But if ya wanna haul stuff, the grand 
caravan is better.



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November 20, 2018 at 9:55 PM
... I did look at a newer benz, but they all come back as turds on all 
the review pages. Not CR, but the NADA, KBB, auto mags. But all the 
cars with computers are coming back as lemons once the warranty 
lapses. Those 30 year old cars at least have class



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Re: [MBZ] Let's Root for Jaime!

2018-11-20 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes

Yes, the 350sdl.

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 9:21 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Are you going to get rid of a car?
>
> On 11/20/2018 8:07 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
> > My first bid at $11k was already getting out of my comfort zone, and it
> > became pretty clear that it was going to continue to go up from there
> given
> > how much time was left.  I threw in a few more bids, mostly for the fun
> of
> > it.
> >
> > The search will continue... I don't need such a perfect one as I'll drive
> > it every day.  But I'd like it to be low milage enough that I can get
> some
> > money for it after putting miles on it for a few years.
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 6:54 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If you read the comments/bids, Jaime bid around $12.5 for it, and said
> >> 'too rich for me' a thousand later. After the auction closed, he asked
> if
> >> anybody had a nice W140 to sell him, didn't have to be 27k miles. Mine's
> >> starting to get a little paint peel and some rust in the rear wheel
> wells
> >> so it's probably not nice enough for him, but I'd let him have it for
> >> 1/10th of his BAT bid.
> >> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing


Brake spring hook

https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Tool-W86557-Brake-Spring/dp/B003WZPP50/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_vtp_ses_clicks_0_1?

Not having one of these, I used the hook end of a machinist's scribe 
clamped in a vice grip to do the job, but it is hard on the scribe.  It 
is easy to ruin the scribe, so one of these is a better way to go.   But 
if the special tool is not available, improvise...


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

2018-11-20 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes

Not having a DD does render me rather inert.  I can cruise the interwebs 
looking for a DD.  I did look at a newer benz, but they all come back as turds 
on all the review pages.   Not CR, but the NADA, KBB, auto mags.  But all the 
cars with computers are coming back as lemons once the warranty lapses.  Those 
30 year old cars at least have class


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> On Nov 20, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> Clay is inert now?  I thought he was just selling his beater Benz
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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>> On Nov 16, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think you really meant:"I once bought 10 packs of three different lengths 
>> of inert clay tie downs. "
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Friday, November 16, 2018, 12:39:12 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> That's what I was thinking. 
>> I once bought 10 packs of three different lengths of rubber tie downs. 
>> The smell was overwhelming when I opened the box. 
>> And a year later, the rubber bungies were cracking up like crazy. 
>> Mitch. 
>> 
>>> On November 16, 2018 at 12:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The cheap chinee rubber.  Very distinct odor.
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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues...

2018-11-20 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes

Probably not what you are looking for.  Only one here

clay monroe
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> On Nov 19, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Not sure if I mentioned this, so if I did please excuse me and delete.
> 
> I am now full-bore back into a search for a Ponton, W110/W111/W108.
> 
> W110/W111, gas/diesel, auto/manual. If I had the perfect car it would be a 
> 230S (67/68) with AC, but second choice would be any model year W110/W111 
> diesel with a stick, ideally a floor shifter.
> 
> W108 6 cylinder sedan, manual or auto, AC would make it perfect but I can add 
> it later on, so lack of it is not a deal killer.
> 
> Late model Ponton, 180, 190, 220, etc.  Six cylinder preferred, not required.
> 
> No restoration candidates, that is, if it needs bodywork due to rust, I’m not 
> interested. I could deal with a minor bubble here or there, or tired paint 
> that needs to be buffed out, but no rusty rockers, fenders or door bottoms. I 
> can do anything but bodywork, so that takes potential candidates right out of 
> the running if they need paint or rust repair. I can do pretty much anything 
> else, so if a candidate has needs in the interior or mechanical areas I would 
> consider it. No major repairs, that is, I'm not looking to rebuild an engine 
> for example.
> 
> I don't want a project car. I am looking for a driver quality or better car. 
> I'm not expecting perfection, but I’m willing to spend up in the $10k range, 
> so that weeds out a lot of potential cars if they have anything significant 
> in the way of needs. I'll travel anywhere in the CONUS as long as I can find 
> someone trusted to vet the car prior to purchase.
> 
> Thanks to all,
> 
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] House of Saud not doing so well

You owe that to the fruits and flakes who moved to Seattle from a couple 
states down the road.



Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
November 20, 2018 at 8:36 PM
It's about a buck a gallon more here in WA.

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Re: [MBZ] House of Saud not doing so well

2018-11-20 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

It's about a buck a gallon more here in WA.

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Re: [MBZ] Let's Root for Jaime!


Are you going to get rid of a car?

On 11/20/2018 8:07 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

My first bid at $11k was already getting out of my comfort zone, and it
became pretty clear that it was going to continue to go up from there given
how much time was left.  I threw in a few more bids, mostly for the fun of
it.

The search will continue... I don't need such a perfect one as I'll drive
it every day.  But I'd like it to be low milage enough that I can get some
money for it after putting miles on it for a few years.

Jaime


On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 6:54 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


If you read the comments/bids, Jaime bid around $12.5 for it, and said
'too rich for me' a thousand later. After the auction closed, he asked if
anybody had a nice W140 to sell him, didn't have to be 27k miles. Mine's
starting to get a little paint peel and some rust in the rear wheel wells
so it's probably not nice enough for him, but I'd let him have it for
1/10th of his BAT bid.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Let's Root for Jaime!

2018-11-20 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes

My first bid at $11k was already getting out of my comfort zone, and it
became pretty clear that it was going to continue to go up from there given
how much time was left.  I threw in a few more bids, mostly for the fun of
it.

The search will continue... I don't need such a perfect one as I'll drive
it every day.  But I'd like it to be low milage enough that I can get some
money for it after putting miles on it for a few years.

Jaime

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If you read the comments/bids, Jaime bid around $12.5 for it, and said
> 'too rich for me' a thousand later. After the auction closed, he asked if
> anybody had a nice W140 to sell him, didn't have to be 27k miles. Mine's
> starting to get a little paint peel and some rust in the rear wheel wells
> so it's probably not nice enough for him, but I'd let him have it for
> 1/10th of his BAT bid.
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] House of Saud not doing so well

I have seen diesel as low as 2.86 here. Premium is around 2.37 or so. Wondering 
if I should switch to driving the e320 instead of the e300.

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> Aside from the murder of a terrorist in their embassy, the saud clan's plan 
> to raise the price of crude oel is not doing so well.
> 
> $53/bbl today.   I filled up on 2.109 Benzin today, with Dizzel still around 
> 2.85.   The jobbers are trying to make xmas bonus on dizzel.
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[MBZ] House of Saud not doing so well

Aside from the murder of a terrorist in their embassy, the saud clan's 
plan to raise the price of crude oel is not doing so well.


$53/bbl today.   I filled up on 2.109 Benzin today, with Dizzel still 
around 2.85.   The jobbers are trying to make xmas bonus on dizzel.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Good guy with gun saves Starbucks employee

2018-11-20 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:55:56 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> +1 on USCCA.  Among other things, USCCA has a list of 2A-friendly
> criminal lawyers who will defend you.  Most criminal lawyers are nor
> 2A-friendly, as far as I can tell.

+1 on USCCA, too.


> If you are ever involved in a self-defense shooting, be sure you call
> 911 before the other guy.  The authorities will act like the first
> report is correct, at least until after an investigation.

Yes.

 
> Your immediate second call should be to your criminal defense lawyer.  

No. If you are a member of USCCA, your second call should be to them.
They have a 24/7 team which goes into action upon your call.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Let's Root for Jaime!

If you read the comments/bids, Jaime bid around $12.5 for it, and said 'too 
rich for me' a thousand later. After the auction closed, he asked if anybody 
had a nice W140 to sell him, didn't have to be 27k miles. Mine's starting to 
get a little paint peel and some rust in the rear wheel wells so it's probably 
not nice enough for him, but I'd let him have it for 1/10th of his BAT bid. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing


Thanks Peter & Rick!

On 11/20/2018 6:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Here is the brake tools, but they are out of stock.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MTEUCQO/?coliid=I3NZCJVYTY65JX=2Q9UPIRDJV6VX=0_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it#

Here is the cluster tools

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VU0D7KO/?coliid=I2E16QGJX85DGQ=2Q9UPIRDJV6VX=0_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

And here is a MB brake tool.

https://www.amazon.com/JTC-Tools-JTC-1852-Mercedes-Parking-Installer/dp/B00DP5O00S/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8=1542756160=8-3=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=Mercedes+Brake+Spring+remover=1=218Ky9ktnyL=plSrch

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing


Thanks Max  (and Dan)
I'll pick up those tools.  ;-)

It really is going pretty easily - but as everyone knows, I'm pretty 
cautious when undertaking a new task (ya'll probably get tired of all my 
questions).  All the great suggestions have made this go smoothly.

Thanks again to all-
Larry

On 11/20/2018 2:47 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Larry - Dan has linked to the hook tools for removing the parking brake
springs in the past, they are available on Amazon for $15 or $20 I think.
They really make the job much much easier, worth the investment.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I have removed the
bolt holding the E-Brake cable to the rotor backing plate but am still
scratching my head over how to remove the shoes.  They don't look like
normal shoes.  Those springs are hard to get off as well, but I'll keep
working on it and before you know it, we'll be driving our 300D before
you know it!  ;-)



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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

2018-11-20 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Here is the brake tools, but they are out of stock.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MTEUCQO/?coliid=I3NZCJVYTY65JX=2Q9UPIRDJV6VX=0_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it#

Here is the cluster tools

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VU0D7KO/?coliid=I2E16QGJX85DGQ=2Q9UPIRDJV6VX=0_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

And here is a MB brake tool.

https://www.amazon.com/JTC-Tools-JTC-1852-Mercedes-Parking-Installer/dp/B00DP5O00S/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8=1542756160=8-3=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=Mercedes+Brake+Spring+remover=1=218Ky9ktnyL=plSrch

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Let's Root for Jaime!

2018-11-20 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 20/11/2018 4:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

BZZZT!

He’s trying to move up to a W140 for a more modern daily driver.  Not this 
time, sadly.

Guess none of the buyers are in the markets, or they got out a couple weeks ago…

-D

  
All in how you look at it. What could you buy new for $16K that would 
make you happier?


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Let's Root for Jaime!

BZZZT!

He’s trying to move up to a W140 for a more modern daily driver.  Not this 
time, sadly.

Guess none of the buyers are in the markets, or they got out a couple weeks ago…

-D

 
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think the idea on this one is to hope Jaime gets an outrageously high 
> price.Dan was not specific, but it appears Jaime is SELLING this one.
> 
>> Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>> November 20, 2018 at 4:49 PM
>> I thought the idea was to buy a 1996-1999 with a 722.6, instead of the old 
>> non overdrive, non lockup 722.366?
>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Let's Root for Jaime!

Anybody else think the difference between the driver seat and passenger seat 
looks like more than 27,000 miles worth of butt time?
My S420 is 2 years newer, 150k, and I don't think my seat bottom has that many 
wrinkles in it. 

and...we've now hit $16,000.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Let's Root for Jaime!

I think the idea on this one is to hope Jaime gets an outrageously high 
price.Dan was not specific, but it appears Jaime is SELLING this one.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
November 20, 2018 at 4:49 PM
I thought the idea was to buy a 1996-1999 with a 722.6, instead of the 
old non overdrive, non lockup 722.366?

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Let's Root for Jaime!

I thought the idea was to buy a 1996-1999 with a 722.6, instead of the old non 
overdrive, non lockup 722.366?
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

2018-11-20 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Acetylene torch is our usual removal tool.  I suspect rolling the car around 
with the lug bolts installed but loose will work, but I've never had to do that.

Large hammers, etc, have never done anything for us.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Let's Root for Jaime!

2018-11-20 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Wait no!  The seller says NOTHING about the bullet proof windows!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 20, 2018 5:04:26 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>C’mon, Jaime!!!
>
>https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-mercedes-benz-s420/
>
>-D
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Re: [MBZ] Let's Root for Jaime!

Jaime is surely smart enough to not be the buyer of a car on bring more crack. 

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[MBZ] Let's Root for Jaime!

C’mon, Jaime!!!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-mercedes-benz-s420/

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Re: [MBZ] OT Good guy with gun saves Starbucks employee

2018-11-20 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

+1 on USCCA.  Among other things, USCCA has a list of 2A-friendly criminal 
lawyers who will defend you.  Most criminal lawyers are nor 2A-friendly, as far 
as I can tell.

If you are ever involved in a self-defense shooting, be sure you call 911 
before the other guy.  The authorities will act like the first report is 
correct, at least until after an investigation.  Your immediate second call 
should be to your criminal defense lawyer.  

Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Curley McLain via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 3:32 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Good guy with gun saves Starbucks employee
> 
> 2¢ FWIW:   i think USCCA her the better coverage for the $.   NRA is
> late to the self defense insurance show.  I am not against NRA, they are best 
> at
> training and defending the 2 A, but i believe USCCA is the better choice for 
> the
> ins, and their training videos are good.
> 
> > Larry Turner via Mercedes  November 20,
> > 2018 at 1:51 PM Hello -
> > Sorry that I'm a little late to this thread - I'd like to add
> > along with range time and practice at home in front of a mirror using
> > a holster of various placements - there's lots of good video's on
> > YouTube to help, anyone carrying should consider one of the Insurance
> > policies available.  A couple come to mind: CarryGuard (NRA) and US
> > LawShield (got a brochure at Cabela's) and others.
> >
> > If you carry a gun and use it even in a obviously defense manner
> > (and there's always 2 sides to every story), your gun will be taken
> > and you will be arrested, without fail.  Again, YouTube has video's
> > telling what to do if arrested.
> >
> > A few things your Carry Insurance will do is, get you bonded out,
> > represent you in a criminal court and possibly civil court. Criminals
> > these days see a paycheck if they get shot and will sue for damages -
> > and the court has issued some strange rulings concerning in these cases.
> >
> > Finally (though there's always much more to this kind of thread)
> > please consider joining the NRA.  It was the 1st Civil Rights
> > organization in the US formed in 1877 (IIRC) to protect the rights of
> > freed slaves and US Citizens whose 2nd Amendment rights were often
> > assaulted.   Regardless what you may have heard, the NRA is there to
> > protect the 2nd A. rights of US citizens.
> >
> > BTW, these kinds of actions are repeated nearly every day at some
> > place or another - but they are seldom reported for various reasons.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Jack Stand Positions - Rear- 1991 300D W124


it would if the car is in P or in gear.


Larry Turner via Mercedes 
November 20, 2018 at 2:05 PM
I elected to raise the rear end and put a jack stand under the right 
rear leaving the left tire firmly planted on the ground.  As 
mentioned, I had difficulty rotating the right side wheel to line up 
the brake shoe adjusting screw and I'm wondering if leaving the 
opposite tire on the ground is what made the Right side wheel hard to 
turn?


Thx,
LarryT




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Re: [MBZ] OT Good guy with gun saves Starbucks employee

2¢ FWIW:   i think USCCA her the better coverage for the $.   NRA is 
late to the self defense insurance show.  I am not against NRA, they are 
best at training and defending the 2 A, but i believe USCCA is the 
better choice for the ins, and their training videos are good.



Larry Turner via Mercedes 
November 20, 2018 at 1:51 PM
Hello -
Sorry that I'm a little late to this thread - I'd like to add 
along with range time and practice at home in front of a mirror using 
a holster of various placements - there's lots of good video's on 
YouTube to help, anyone carrying should consider one of the Insurance 
policies available.  A couple come to mind: CarryGuard (NRA) and US 
LawShield (got a brochure at Cabela's) and others.


If you carry a gun and use it even in a obviously defense manner 
(and there's always 2 sides to every story), your gun will be taken 
and you will be arrested, without fail.  Again, YouTube has video's 
telling what to do if arrested.


A few things your Carry Insurance will do is, get you bonded out, 
represent you in a criminal court and possibly civil court. Criminals 
these days see a paycheck if they get shot and will sue for damages - 
and the court has issued some strange rulings concerning in these cases.


Finally (though there's always much more to this kind of thread) 
please consider joining the NRA.  It was the 1st Civil Rights 
organization in the US formed in 1877 (IIRC) to protect the rights of 
freed slaves and US Citizens whose 2nd Amendment rights were often 
assaulted.   Regardless what you may have heard, the NRA is there to 
protect the 2nd A. rights of US citizens.


BTW, these kinds of actions are repeated nearly every day at some 
place or another - but they are seldom reported for various reasons.


Larry






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Re: [MBZ] Jack Stand Positions - Rear- 1991 300D W124



> On November 20, 2018 at 3:05 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> I'm wondering if leaving the opposite tire on the 
> ground is what made the Right side wheel hard to turn?

Not if the transmission is in neutral. 
Mitch

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[MBZ] Tesla/Musk wants to play with DBAG

2018-11-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

*The road ahead for Tesla: *The electric automaker may be looking to
partner with Daimler’s Mercedes-Benz on an electric van, Reuters reports
.
Tesla chief executive Elon Musk tweeted it's “maybe interesting to work
with Daimler/Mercedes on an electric Sprinter.” “The latest generation of
Sprinter vans debuted in February this year and Mercedes-Benz plans here to
offer electric versions from next year,” per the report.
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Re: [MBZ] Jack Stand Positions - Rear- 1991 300D W124

I doubt it, I think your idea about the bearing making the wheel hard to
turn is probably correct.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 3:06 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I elected to raise the rear end and put a jack stand under the right
> rear leaving the left tire firmly planted on the ground.  As mentioned,
> I had difficulty rotating the right side wheel to line up the brake shoe
> adjusting screw and I'm wondering if leaving the opposite tire on the
> ground is what made the Right side wheel hard to turn?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Good guy with gun saves Starbucks employee

Speaking of police tactical squads, did ya'll watch the video of the female
anti-fa-er who was assaulting a group of men and then gets snatched up by
the po-pos?  It was beautiful, pretty much text book.  The riot police
penetrated the group of hostiles and snatched up the purple-haired person
and dragged her away so fast the cameraman almost missed it.  The fun
doesn't start until the last minute or so of the video.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/38502/watch-female-antifa-punches-spits-conservative-amanda-prestigiacomo

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 2:59 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You had better hope that the police tactical squad does not arrive while
> you are standing there with your smoking gun . . . . .
>
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Re: [MBZ] Jack Stand Positions - Rear- 1991 300D W124

Thanks Max - I'll correct it tomorrow - sorry I missed your suggestion 
the 1st time around.


LarryT

On 10/08/2018 3:31 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I like to lift the rear end with a big floor jack under the differential, then 
put the jack stands under the rubber pads that are under the factory jack 
holes.  I'd recommend putting both jack stands in place so you don't put a 
twist on the body.  Either both on the right side, or both at the rear.


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Re: [MBZ] Jack Stand Positions - Rear- 1991 300D W124

I elected to raise the rear end and put a jack stand under the right 
rear leaving the left tire firmly planted on the ground.  As mentioned, 
I had difficulty rotating the right side wheel to line up the brake shoe 
adjusting screw and I'm wondering if leaving the opposite tire on the 
ground is what made the Right side wheel hard to turn?


Thx,
LarryT

On 10/08/2018 11:51 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I put the floor jack under the diff, and then you can put the stands 
under the pads.  For the front, I put the jack carefully under the 
front subframe crossmember (don't touch the center steering link.)


Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:
Hmm, those pads are where I usually put my floor jack.  Are you 
suggesting I use the factory jack which will leave a place to put the 
jack stands?


Don't have enough wood blocks to do as you do, but I usually put the 
tire/wheel under the car in the hopes I wouldn't get squished less 
that 8" - my estimate of the width of tire and wheel I will put under 
the frame.  ;-)


Thx,

LarryT




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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

Do a Google search or Amazon for "Genuine Mercedes Instrument Cluster Pull 
Hooks 140589023300”.  Best $25 you’ll ever spend.

Besides the original intent, I can’t count the other ways I’ve used these tools 
- pulling brake springs is one of them, but there are oodles of other ways, 
too.  I rank these up close to my “magnet on a stick” I bought from Sears in 
1978 that has earned its value back exponentially.  Mr. Magnet has saved my 
bottom so many times I can’t begin to keep track.

-D



> On Nov 20, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Larry - Dan has linked to the hook tools for removing the parking brake
> springs in the past, they are available on Amazon for $15 or $20 I think.
> They really make the job much much easier, worth the investment.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 2:07 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have removed the
>> bolt holding the E-Brake cable to the rotor backing plate but am still
>> scratching my head over how to remove the shoes.  They don't look like
>> normal shoes.  Those springs are hard to get off as well, but I'll keep
>> working on it and before you know it, we'll be driving our 300D before
>> you know it!  ;-)
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Good guy with gun saves Starbucks employee

2018-11-20 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

You had better hope that the police tactical squad does not arrive while 
you are standing there with your smoking gun . . . . .


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT Good guy with gun saves Starbucks employee

Hello -
Sorry that I'm a little late to this thread - I'd like to add along
with range time and practice at home in front of a mirror using a
holster of various placements - there's lots of good video's on YouTube
to help, anyone carrying should consider one of the Insurance policies
available. A couple come to mind: CarryGuard (NRA) and US LawShield
(got a brochure at Cabela's) and others.

If you carry a gun and use it even in a obviously defense manner
(and there's always 2 sides to every story), your gun will be taken and
you will be arrested, without fail. Again, YouTube has video's telling
what to do if arrested.

A few things your Carry Insurance will do is, get you bonded out,
represent you in a criminal court and possibly civil court. Criminals
these days see a paycheck if they get shot and will sue for damages -
and the court has issued some strange rulings concerning in these cases.

Finally (though there's always much more to this kind of thread)
please consider joining the NRA. It was the 1st Civil Rights
organization in the US formed in 1877 (IIRC) to protect the rights of
freed slaves and US Citizens whose 2nd Amendment rights were often
assaulted. Regardless what you may have heard, the NRA is there to
protect the 2nd A. rights of US citizens.

BTW, these kinds of actions are repeated nearly every day at some
place or another - but they are seldom reported for various reasons.

Larry

On 10/06/2018 2:58 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Take away from the incident:

1. Nothing converts a rabid anti gun individual as quickly as actually
needing to defend yourself.and having nothing to defend with.
2. Train at the range, often... Double tap, on target, count your shots
with each discharge.
3. Know the law in your jurisdiction before you leave home armed.

On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 11:34 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

--> Hamilton’s co-workers, however, remained frozen, unsure what to do,
she said.

No one thought to attempt to engage the attacker in a conversation about
his oppression or feelings of entitlement to beat TS out of the woman
based on his white privilege and hegemonic masculinity? He is likely a
cis-male misogynist anyway, so it would be expected that he would behave
this way toward a woman, and the co-workers needed to have a
conversation about the best way to deal with his implicit
heteronormativity bias and patriarchal entitlement, ever how oppressed
he might have been.

--> As soon as she fell to the ground, however, her co-workers ran out
the door and began screaming for help.

That was helpful, I'm sure they were traumatized by witnessing this
violence and needed to go to a safe space, and emancipatory space, to
calm down, and to scream to let out the hurt, and perhaps to find a
puppy to hug. I mean, what else could they do?

--> As he came closer, the customer pulled out a gun and shot the
attacker once in the chest, Hansen said.

I would be interested to know what type of weapon the customer had, what
caliber, and if for some reason it was not capable of firing 3 shots in
quick succession. Maybe it jammed?

--> Police believe Overall may have mental health issues, Hansen added.

That probably took a great deal of investigation.

--> Hamilton is grateful, however, that she’s alive. And especially
grateful for the man with a gun who she said is a frequent customer.

The money quote. I'm sure Starbucks will fire her now for her belief
and gratitude.

So many questions here...

--FT

On 10/6/18 1:40 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

A story with a happy ending, although it might have been better if the
attacker was in the locker. (And it didn't take 16 shots like the
popos do)

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

"The customer [the good guy here] has a concealed carry permit, Hansen
said, and, though he doesn’t know for sure if the customer will face
charges, he believes the shooting can be interpreted as self-defense.
The
customer is being “very cooperative” with police, Hansen added.

In 2013, Starbucks made a request that customers not bring firearms into
its stores or outdoor eating areas, but the company specified that it
was a
request and not an outright ban.

As for Hamilton [employee that was attacked], she’s just happy
someone was
there.

“I’m just really grateful to be alive, and I’m thankful for everyone who
was there to help me,” she said.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46400745/starbucks-customer-shoots-man-attacking-clerk-in-millcreek-police-say

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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

Larry - Dan has linked to the hook tools for removing the parking brake
springs in the past, they are available on Amazon for $15 or $20 I think.
They really make the job much much easier, worth the investment.
-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 2:07 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have removed the
> bolt holding the E-Brake cable to the rotor backing plate but am still
> scratching my head over how to remove the shoes.  They don't look like
> normal shoes.  Those springs are hard to get off as well, but I'll keep
> working on it and before you know it, we'll be driving our 300D before
> you know it!  ;-)
>
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing


Hi Gang!
    Success!  My dead-blow hammer worked it off a little at a time.  
And my spare rotors fit perfectly with the correct hat diameter and 
rotor dia.   All the screw holes line up as well.   I have removed the 
bolt holding the E-Brake cable to the rotor backing plate but am still 
scratching my head over how to remove the shoes.  They don't look like 
normal shoes.  Those springs are hard to get off as well, but I'll keep 
working on it and before you know it, we'll be driving our 300D before 
you know it!  ;-)
    The little Pig's Tails that appear to be holding the shoes to the 
backing plate are not cooperating!  But I'll read the replies I received 
from you guys and check with the WSM and I'll get them off.  One step at 
a time ;-)

    Thanks again,
LarryT

On 11/20/2018 12:42 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Sometimes I forget the Mercedes rear rotors are also brake drums.

Especially when it's only an e-brake, a ring of rust on the edge of the drum 
can make it impossible to remove the drum without backing off the adjuster 
between the shoes. If you force it off you might break something in the e-brake.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

It is probably still dragging on the e brake shoes.  It they have worn a 
groove in the drum, then it is very difficult to get the rotor off.  
(unless you can turn the adjuster to loosen them.)



Larry Turner via Mercedes 
November 20, 2018 at 11:08 AM
yep, E Brake is off. We depressed it them pulled the release just to 
be sure.  I'm going to release the adjusting screw further as soon as 
I find the damn thing.  The rotor is hard to turn - probably because 
of the bad bearing.


Haven't seen any rust on the brake components yet.   Also, before I 
started removing the parts I sprayed everything with Penetrating oil.  
It seems to be working.  Also, the axle shaft released with 2 -3 hit 
from my BFH with the nut unscrewed where it is flush with the end of 
the shaft.  Popped loose and it looks like it has pristine splines.


Thanks,
Larry


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

Sometimes I forget the Mercedes rear rotors are also brake drums. 

Especially when it's only an e-brake, a ring of rust on the edge of the drum 
can make it impossible to remove the drum without backing off the adjuster 
between the shoes. If you force it off you might break something in the 
e-brake. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

It's warmed up enough to go out and play with the MB some more.   Thanks 
again for all the help.


LarryT

On 11/20/2018 12:08 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:
yep, E Brake is off. We depressed it them pulled the release just to 
be sure.  I'm going to release the adjusting screw further as soon as 
I find the damn thing.  The rotor is hard to turn - probably because 
of the bad bearing.


Haven't seen any rust on the brake components yet.   Also, before I 
started removing the parts I sprayed everything with Penetrating oil.  
It seems to be working.  Also, the axle shaft released with 2 -3 hit 
from my BFH with the nut unscrewed where it is flush with the end of 
the shaft.  Popped loose and it looks like it has pristine splines.


Thanks,
Larry
On 11/20/2018 9:25 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I missed where Larry said the screw was out.   One other thing:  Is 
the emergency brake OFF?  The E brake shoes can hold onto the 
disk/drum very hard even when released, especially if rusted in 
place.    After that, beat on it with a BFH.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 20, 2018 at 8:18 AM
He said it’s been removed.

Corrosion gets into the area between the axle flange and the brake 
rotor, and the only thing that will break it loose is heat and/or 
force. You have to use a heavy, like 3-4 pound mallet or dead blow 
hammer, and just wail on the thing like there’s no tomorrow.


-D



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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

What about a 3 jaw puller without heat?  While I think the pair of 
rotors I have will fit my car I won't be sure until I try them.  But if 
I need to replace the rotor I will.


Thanks -
Larry

On 11/20/2018 9:35 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

3 Jaw puller + acetylene torch.
Put a bunch of tension on the puller, then heat the area between the lug holes 
and the hub hole until the rotor pops off. Only good for removing old rotor to 
install a new one, no matter how carefully I thought I did it the rotor got 
warped.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

yep, E Brake is off. We depressed it them pulled the release just to be 
sure.  I'm going to release the adjusting screw further as soon as I 
find the damn thing.  The rotor is hard to turn - probably because of 
the bad bearing.


Haven't seen any rust on the brake components yet.   Also, before I 
started removing the parts I sprayed everything with Penetrating oil.  
It seems to be working.  Also, the axle shaft released with 2 -3 hit 
from my BFH with the nut unscrewed where it is flush with the end of the 
shaft.  Popped loose and it looks like it has pristine splines.


Thanks,
Larry
On 11/20/2018 9:25 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I missed where Larry said the screw was out.   One other thing:  Is 
the emergency brake OFF?  The E brake shoes can hold onto the 
disk/drum very hard even when released, especially if rusted in 
place.    After that, beat on it with a BFH.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 20, 2018 at 8:18 AM
He said it’s been removed.

Corrosion gets into the area between the axle flange and the brake 
rotor, and the only thing that will break it loose is heat and/or 
force. You have to use a heavy, like 3-4 pound mallet or dead blow 
hammer, and just wail on the thing like there’s no tomorrow.


-D



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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

2018-11-20 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

For brake drums I usually get a three pound hammer and beat them until they 
come loose or shatter. I would suspect rear rotors would be the same, as long 
as the securing bolt has been removed. 
Be careful where you hit. 
A large hammer makes a mess of body work, and body parts in short order.
 
Wear safety glasses. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing


Thanks - I'LL try my dead-blow - forgot about that..
Larry

On 11/20/2018 9:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

He said it’s been removed.

Corrosion gets into the area between the axle flange and the brake rotor, and 
the only thing that will break it loose is heat and/or force.  You have to use 
a heavy, like 3-4 pound mallet or dead blow hammer, and just wail on the thing 
like there’s no tomorrow.

-D




On Nov 20, 2018, at 9:13 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

is it held on by an allen head flathead screw?   I think the 124 rear are.  I 
know for sure 123 and older have the screw.   The rotor comes off much easier 
with the screw out.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 20, 2018 at 7:57 AM
Beat on it. Hard. BFH.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing


removed it Saturday...  Thanks,
Larry

On 11/20/2018 9:13 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
is it held on by an allen head flathead screw?   I think the 124 rear 
are.  I know for sure 123 and older have the screw.   The rotor comes 
off much easier with the screw out.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 20, 2018 at 7:57 AM
Beat on it. Hard. BFH.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

2018-11-20 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Clay is inert now?  I thought he was just selling his beater Benz

--FT
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> On Nov 16, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think you really meant:"I once bought 10 packs of three different lengths 
> of inert clay tie downs. "
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Friday, November 16, 2018, 12:39:12 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> That's what I was thinking. 
> I once bought 10 packs of three different lengths of rubber tie downs. 
> The smell was overwhelming when I opened the box. 
> And a year later, the rubber bungies were cracking up like crazy. 
> Mitch. 
> 
>> On November 16, 2018 at 12:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> 
>> The cheap chinee rubber.  Very distinct odor.
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[MBZ] Fair Condition

2018-11-20 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

(Most of an) S-class for $500

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/551167398656584/

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

3 Jaw puller + acetylene torch. 
Put a bunch of tension on the puller, then heat the area between the lug holes 
and the hub hole until the rotor pops off. Only good for removing old rotor to 
install a new one, no matter how carefully I thought I did it the rotor got 
warped. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

Yep, Dan's right.

I never found any threaded hole that accepted a stud to push the rotor off
the hub, but that would be a really nice thing to find - maybe factory
rotors have them, but after market don't?

I coat the inside of the rotors with never-seize before installation, where
they contact the face of the hub, and then "next time" they just come right
off like butter.
-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 9:19 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> He said it’s been removed.
>
> Corrosion gets into the area between the axle flange and the brake rotor,
> and the only thing that will break it loose is heat and/or force.  You have
> to use a heavy, like 3-4 pound mallet or dead blow hammer, and just wail on
> the thing like there’s no tomorrow.
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

I missed where Larry said the screw was out.   One other thing:  Is the 
emergency brake OFF?  The E brake shoes can hold onto the disk/drum very 
hard even when released, especially if rusted in place.After that, 
beat on it with a BFH.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 20, 2018 at 8:18 AM
He said it’s been removed.

Corrosion gets into the area between the axle flange and the brake 
rotor, and the only thing that will break it loose is heat and/or 
force. You have to use a heavy, like 3-4 pound mallet or dead blow 
hammer, and just wail on the thing like there’s no tomorrow.


-D



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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

He said it’s been removed.

Corrosion gets into the area between the axle flange and the brake rotor, and 
the only thing that will break it loose is heat and/or force.  You have to use 
a heavy, like 3-4 pound mallet or dead blow hammer, and just wail on the thing 
like there’s no tomorrow.

-D



> On Nov 20, 2018, at 9:13 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> is it held on by an allen head flathead screw?   I think the 124 rear are.  I 
> know for sure 123 and older have the screw.   The rotor comes off much easier 
> with the screw out.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> November 20, 2018 at 7:57 AM
>> Beat on it. Hard. BFH.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

Some rotors also have a threaded hole in the bolt circle you can put a 
bolt in to pull the rotor.  It has been a few years since I did 124 rear 
rotors, I don't remember the details.



Larry Turner via Mercedes 
November 20, 2018 at 7:44 AM
Hi Guys,
I posted a email on 11/18 and so far it is not showing up in the 
forum.  Is anyone else seeing it?  I spoke about where I am in the 
removal of the Bearing carrier and the difficulty I am having getting 
the rotor to break loose.  The axle shaft slides in and out with ease, 
the Allen screw has been removed as has the caliper.


I looked at the emails everyone provided during the past as I 
prepared to do this and don't see any mention of any connection on the 
backside of the rotor.  Same for the WSM.


I've been hitting it with a hammer but there are no signs it 
is loosening.


Did my email with photos get through?
What am I missing with the rotor?

Thanks
LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

is it held on by an allen head flathead screw?   I think the 124 rear 
are.  I know for sure 123 and older have the screw.   The rotor comes 
off much easier with the screw out.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 20, 2018 at 7:57 AM
Beat on it. Hard. BFH.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing

Beat on it.  Hard.  BFH.

-D


> On Nov 20, 2018, at 8:44 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> I posted a email on 11/18 and so far it is not showing up in the forum.  
> Is anyone else seeing it?  I spoke about where I am in the removal of the 
> Bearing carrier and the difficulty I am having getting the rotor to break 
> loose.  The axle shaft slides in and out with ease, the Allen screw has been 
> removed as has the caliper.
> 
> I looked at the emails everyone provided during the past as I prepared to 
> do this and don't see any mention of any connection on the backside of the 
> rotor.  Same for the WSM.
> 
> I've been hitting it with a hammer but there are no signs it is 
> loosening.
> 
> Did my email with photos get through?
> What am I missing with the rotor?
> 
> Thanks
> LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing


Hi Guys,
    I posted a email on 11/18 and so far it is not showing up in the 
forum.  Is anyone else seeing it?  I spoke about where I am in the 
removal of the Bearing carrier and the difficulty I am having getting 
the rotor to break loose.  The axle shaft slides in and out with ease, 
the Allen screw has been removed as has the caliper.


    I looked at the emails everyone provided during the past as I 
prepared to do this and don't see any mention of any connection on the 
backside of the rotor.  Same for the WSM.


        I've been hitting it with a hammer but there are no signs it is 
loosening.


Did my email with photos get through?
What am I missing with the rotor?

Thanks
LarryT
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