Re: [MBZ] Rivian

2019-03-16 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
The R1T Truck. 

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> I hadn't heard of them before - which one did he pre-order?
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>> My Tesla owning work associate just preordered a Rivian. Fancy.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

2019-03-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Remember that "big data" study that Blackstone oil labs did? All of the
"synthetic" oils are good. I'm running NAPA synthetic now (made by
Valvoline). Never looked back, despite my devotion to M1 back in the day.

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> Costco but limited variety. Like 2 weights
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Re: [MBZ] Rivian

2019-03-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I hadn't heard of them before - which one did he pre-order?

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Re: [MBZ] M1 oel deals?

2019-03-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Costco but limited variety. Like 2 weights

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[MBZ] 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D $550

2019-03-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
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1987 Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D

Selling this old Mercedes 300d. Motor runs. Has been sitting for a 2 years. 
Interior is in great shape. Would be a good car for parts or a project. It runs 
and moves! It is not drivable as it has been sitting for 2 years.IM me if 
interested Thanks! Read Less

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[MBZ] M1 oel deals?

2019-03-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes



Aside from wallyland, is anyone aware of good deals on M1?

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Update

2019-03-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I hear he's been getting bids to bulldoze the jungle behind his house 
and level it for parking okie cars.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 3/16/19 6:33 PM:

Poos is starting to slip, he is cutting corners. Next thing you know he will be 
Okieing his cars.





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[MBZ] Rivian

2019-03-16 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
My Tesla owning work associate just preordered a Rivian. Fancy. 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

AMEN!

Software strikes again.

Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote on 3/16/19 9:23 AM:

I'm no aircraft engineer, but in my experience in other things, this is strictly a 
software/sensor issue.  Most aircraft have a stall prevention system, and any aircraft 
prone to "unrecoverable" stalls like T-tail rear engine jets have one that will 
overpower the pilot.  However, every pilot must be trained to disable that system if it 
gives false warnings, and since the 737 has been flown nearly countless hours and is a 
very well proven airframe, it's gotta be the software.

ILong past time to stop pasting upgrades on a 1956 airframe, I think..




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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Update

2019-03-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
And I can find all my stuff when I need it, too…

-D


> On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No corner cutting - just dealing with the lack of original materials. 
> Sometimes you just have to make do with what you can get.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Poos is starting to slip, he is cutting corners. Next thing you know he will 
>> be Okieing his cars.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suspect it’s more a matter of demand. The fact that I couldn’t find 
>>> anything like the material for either my vinyl or windlace fabric tells me 
>>> there’s just been no demand, so people quit making it.
>>> 
>>> There’s one guy in Germany who has some windlace fabric on the shelf that’s 
>>> NOS stuff, not my color. I could have bought it and dyed it the proper 
>>> color, but I would have been into the deal for nearly $150 before I ever 
>>> saw the stuff.
>>> 
>>> This isn’t a concours restoration. It’s a “damned close” restoration, 
>>> because 99.9% of the people that will see the car will never notice or be 
>>> aware of the discrepancy.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 16, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
 
 That’s pretty disappointing. I guess they prefer to cater to more 
 mainstream models!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 16, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Neither Global, GAHH, World or a commercial upholstery supplier 
> (Pioneer?) that my upholstery guy recommended could come up with the 
> vinyl color I needed. I ended up going with slightly lighter material 
> that I got at JoAnn, as it was about the same as everything else I found.
> 
> Sometimes you just have to compromise…
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan may have gotten lucky finding a close match but it’s not so easy to 
>> do. If you can’t find try global upholstery supply in California. They 
>> should have anything you need for about $20 per yard.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> $10 a yard right now at Joanne’s.   I’m going to see if they have a 
>>> close match for parchment or palomino.
>>> 
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Update

2019-03-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
No corner cutting - just dealing with the lack of original materials. Sometimes 
you just have to make do with what you can get.

-D


> On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Poos is starting to slip, he is cutting corners. Next thing you know he will 
> be Okieing his cars.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I suspect it’s more a matter of demand. The fact that I couldn’t find 
>> anything like the material for either my vinyl or windlace fabric tells me 
>> there’s just been no demand, so people quit making it.
>> 
>> There’s one guy in Germany who has some windlace fabric on the shelf that’s 
>> NOS stuff, not my color. I could have bought it and dyed it the proper 
>> color, but I would have been into the deal for nearly $150 before I ever saw 
>> the stuff.
>> 
>> This isn’t a concours restoration. It’s a “damned close” restoration, 
>> because 99.9% of the people that will see the car will never notice or be 
>> aware of the discrepancy.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s pretty disappointing. I guess they prefer to cater to more 
>>> mainstream models!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 16, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Neither Global, GAHH, World or a commercial upholstery supplier (Pioneer?) 
 that my upholstery guy recommended could come up with the vinyl color I 
 needed. I ended up going with slightly lighter material that I got at 
 JoAnn, as it was about the same as everything else I found.
 
 Sometimes you just have to compromise…
 
 -D
 
 
> On Mar 16, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan may have gotten lucky finding a close match but it’s not so easy to 
> do. If you can’t find try global upholstery supply in California. They 
> should have anything you need for about $20 per yard.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> $10 a yard right now at Joanne’s.   I’m going to see if they have a 
>> close match for parchment or palomino.
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
>> 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Update

2019-03-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Poos is starting to slip, he is cutting corners. Next thing you know he will be 
Okieing his cars.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I suspect it’s more a matter of demand. The fact that I couldn’t find 
> anything like the material for either my vinyl or windlace fabric tells me 
> there’s just been no demand, so people quit making it.
> 
> There’s one guy in Germany who has some windlace fabric on the shelf that’s 
> NOS stuff, not my color. I could have bought it and dyed it the proper color, 
> but I would have been into the deal for nearly $150 before I ever saw the 
> stuff.
> 
> This isn’t a concours restoration. It’s a “damned close” restoration, because 
> 99.9% of the people that will see the car will never notice or be aware of 
> the discrepancy.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
>> 
>> That’s pretty disappointing. I guess they prefer to cater to more mainstream 
>> models!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Neither Global, GAHH, World or a commercial upholstery supplier (Pioneer?) 
>>> that my upholstery guy recommended could come up with the vinyl color I 
>>> needed. I ended up going with slightly lighter material that I got at 
>>> JoAnn, as it was about the same as everything else I found.
>>> 
>>> Sometimes you just have to compromise…
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 16, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 Dan may have gotten lucky finding a close match but it’s not so easy to 
 do. If you can’t find try global upholstery supply in California. They 
 should have anything you need for about $20 per yard.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 16, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> $10 a yard right now at Joanne’s.   I’m going to see if they have a close 
> match for parchment or palomino.
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT some old containers, a welder, and some sheetrock and I am an architectural wonder

2019-03-16 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Not my dream house.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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Re: [MBZ] Made it to Little Rock

2019-03-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
We're all pulling for you!
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Re: [MBZ] OT some old containers, a welder, and some sheetrock and I am an architectural wonder

2019-03-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Reminds me of a pill box gun emplacement, but bigger and with windows.
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Re: [MBZ] Poor taste with money

2019-03-16 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Ugly Velveeta styled car. Does the purchase price include the disposal fee,
cause once you can't stand owning it, no one else will buy it.

To harsh?


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[MBZ] OT some old containers, a welder, and some sheetrock and I am an architectural wonder

2019-03-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://www.amlu.com/2019/03/16/parks-residence-in-raleigh-by-the-raleigh-architecture-co/

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[MBZ] Poor taste with money

2019-03-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://www.amlu.com/2019/03/14/hofele-shows-off-personalization-know-how-with-highly-individual-s-class/

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Re: [MBZ] Next Diesel Mercedes ( GLK 250 BlueTech )

2019-03-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Looks like a good deal but for the tires.

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> I was  thinking of look for a newer diesel Mercedes and the like is to one
> I may good look at. Any suggestions or alternatives. Vehicle would be used
> to tow a small popup camper that is about 1000 lbs.
>
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> https://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?qs=5745420f7d1928239fb8f0c893fb7e07a350dd1ba4b9bad43eb38dc8b9cc87245ead01e8f3997090632873f0ba29f0fd044b7bae16ef8fb30955f21f6ec9fc5d1c08db5d01e49e1a660e1a5eb09d97cdd675444989c043ed
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Re: [MBZ] Check this out

2019-03-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Nice color combination.  Teal/parchment.

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> Bizarre.
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[MBZ] Made it to Little Rock

2019-03-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
No further trailer issues. Home stretch tomorrow. 

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Update

2019-03-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Oftentimes good enough is good enough. The car will look good and provide 
pleasure to all who drive and ride in it and it will live on well. Plus it’s 
fun and not *too* obsessive...

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> On Mar 16, 2019, at 5:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This isn’t a concours restoration. It’s a “damned close” restoration, because 
> 99.9% of the people that will see the car will never notice or be aware of 
> the discrepancy.

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Update

2019-03-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I suspect it’s more a matter of demand. The fact that I couldn’t find anything 
like the material for either my vinyl or windlace fabric tells me there’s just 
been no demand, so people quit making it.

There’s one guy in Germany who has some windlace fabric on the shelf that’s NOS 
stuff, not my color. I could have bought it and dyed it the proper color, but I 
would have been into the deal for nearly $150 before I ever saw the stuff.

This isn’t a concours restoration. It’s a “damned close” restoration, because 
99.9% of the people that will see the car will never notice or be aware of the 
discrepancy.

-D


> On Mar 16, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
> 
> That’s pretty disappointing. I guess they prefer to cater to more mainstream 
> models!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Neither Global, GAHH, World or a commercial upholstery supplier (Pioneer?) 
>> that my upholstery guy recommended could come up with the vinyl color I 
>> needed. I ended up going with slightly lighter material that I got at JoAnn, 
>> as it was about the same as everything else I found.
>> 
>> Sometimes you just have to compromise…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dan may have gotten lucky finding a close match but it’s not so easy to do. 
>>> If you can’t find try global upholstery supply in California. They should 
>>> have anything you need for about $20 per yard.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 16, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 $10 a yard right now at Joanne’s.   I’m going to see if they have a close 
 match for parchment or palomino.
 
 Michael E. Esh
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Update

2019-03-16 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
That’s pretty disappointing. I guess they prefer to cater to more mainstream 
models!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Neither Global, GAHH, World or a commercial upholstery supplier (Pioneer?) 
> that my upholstery guy recommended could come up with the vinyl color I 
> needed. I ended up going with slightly lighter material that I got at JoAnn, 
> as it was about the same as everything else I found.
> 
> Sometimes you just have to compromise…
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dan may have gotten lucky finding a close match but it’s not so easy to do. 
>> If you can’t find try global upholstery supply in California. They should 
>> have anything you need for about $20 per yard.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> $10 a yard right now at Joanne’s.   I’m going to see if they have a close 
>>> match for parchment or palomino.
>>> 
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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[MBZ] Useful and cheap

2019-03-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
https://m.banggood.com/500Pcs-Mixed-Auto-Car-Fastener-Clip-Bumper-Fender-Trim-Plastic-Rivet-Door-Panel-p-1270921.html

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Update

2019-03-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Neither Global, GAHH, World or a commercial upholstery supplier (Pioneer?) that 
my upholstery guy recommended could come up with the vinyl color I needed. I 
ended up going with slightly lighter material that I got at JoAnn, as it was 
about the same as everything else I found.

Sometimes you just have to compromise…

-D


> On Mar 16, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan may have gotten lucky finding a close match but it’s not so easy to do. 
> If you can’t find try global upholstery supply in California. They should 
> have anything you need for about $20 per yard.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> $10 a yard right now at Joanne’s.   I’m going to see if they have a close 
>> match for parchment or palomino.
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
>> 


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[MBZ] brake Mercedes Benz G Class - $28500

2019-03-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Huh?  Whah?

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/wadmalaw-island-brake-mercedes-benz/6842633709.html

But wait, there's more!

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mount-pleasant-2011-mercedes-benz-class/6839264576.html

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Update

2019-03-16 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Dan may have gotten lucky finding a close match but it’s not so easy to do. If 
you can’t find try global upholstery supply in California. They should have 
anything you need for about $20 per yard.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> $10 a yard right now at Joanne’s.   I’m going to see if they have a close 
> match for parchment or palomino.
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 8:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks! I’m really pleased with it. I’m hoping to get the interior back 
>> together this weekend, so I’ll be posting more updates here, I’m sure.
>> 
>> JoAnn Fabrics. “Marine” vinyl, they call it. The brown color I used which 
>> was pretty close to the original, just slightly lighter, is being 
>> discontinued, so I bought a couple of yards when I could. Be sure to sign up 
>> for their coupons as they barrage you with them, making it easy to get stuff 
>> for 50% off or more.
>> 
>> I also use the Mercedes contact cement. It’s expensive, but damn, does it 
>> work well and hold forever. Part number 000 989 9271 09, about $35 a can, 
>> but well worth it. It’s the same thing they use on hood pads, but I’ve never 
>> used it for that because of the cost…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Coming along nicely! Where did you get the vinyl for the B pillars?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 15, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Got the dash nearly complete today despite my setback with a failed fuel 
 pump. Hope to finish it tomorrow.
 
 http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/3/15_Getting_Ahead(liner).html
 
 Enjoy!
 
 -D
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[MBZ] Next Diesel Mercedes ( GLK 250 BlueTech )

2019-03-16 Thread Robert Massmann via Mercedes
I was  thinking of look for a newer diesel Mercedes and the like is to one I 
may good look at. Any suggestions or alternatives. Vehicle would be used to tow 
a small popup camper that is about 1000 lbs.

Robert Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

https://view.s4.exacttarget.com/?qs=5745420f7d1928239fb8f0c893fb7e07a350dd1ba4b9bad43eb38dc8b9cc87245ead01e8f3997090632873f0ba29f0fd044b7bae16ef8fb30955f21f6ec9fc5d1c08db5d01e49e1a660e1a5eb09d97cdd675444989c043ed
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Update

2019-03-16 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
$10 a yard right now at Joanne’s.   I’m going to see if they have a close match 
for parchment or palomino.

Michael E. Esh


> On Mar 16, 2019, at 8:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks! I’m really pleased with it. I’m hoping to get the interior back 
> together this weekend, so I’ll be posting more updates here, I’m sure.
> 
> JoAnn Fabrics. “Marine” vinyl, they call it. The brown color I used which was 
> pretty close to the original, just slightly lighter, is being discontinued, 
> so I bought a couple of yards when I could. Be sure to sign up for their 
> coupons as they barrage you with them, making it easy to get stuff for 50% 
> off or more.
> 
> I also use the Mercedes contact cement. It’s expensive, but damn, does it 
> work well and hold forever. Part number 000 989 9271 09, about $35 a can, but 
> well worth it. It’s the same thing they use on hood pads, but I’ve never used 
> it for that because of the cost…
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
>> 
>> Coming along nicely! Where did you get the vinyl for the B pillars?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Got the dash nearly complete today despite my setback with a failed fuel 
>>> pump. Hope to finish it tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/3/15_Getting_Ahead(liner).html
>>> 
>>> Enjoy!
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I'm no aircraft engineer, but in my experience in other things, this is 
strictly a software/sensor issue.  Most aircraft have a stall prevention 
system, and any aircraft prone to "unrecoverable" stalls like T-tail rear 
engine jets have one that will overpower the pilot.  However, every pilot must 
be trained to disable that system if it gives false warnings, and since the 737 
has been flown nearly countless hours and is a very well proven airframe, it's 
gotta be the software.

ILong past time to stop pasting upgrades on a 1956 airframe, I think..
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy Day with the Finnie

2019-03-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The old mechanical injection systems from Bosch were very very similar to the 
diesel injection systems, just much lower delivery pressure as they inject into 
the intake rather than the combustion chamber in the MB versions -- the 
aircraft and original 300 Gullwing inject through the side of the block aimed 
up toward (or down toward in the aircraft engines) the spark plug.

Hence the need for the diesel type fuel filter.



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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Update

2019-03-16 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Thanks. How much better is the Mercedes contact adhesive compared to the 
generic weld wood stuff sold at hardware stores? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2019, at 8:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks! I’m really pleased with it. I’m hoping to get the interior back 
> together this weekend, so I’ll be posting more updates here, I’m sure.
> 
> JoAnn Fabrics. “Marine” vinyl, they call it. The brown color I used which was 
> pretty close to the original, just slightly lighter, is being discontinued, 
> so I bought a couple of yards when I could. Be sure to sign up for their 
> coupons as they barrage you with them, making it easy to get stuff for 50% 
> off or more.
> 
> I also use the Mercedes contact cement. It’s expensive, but damn, does it 
> work well and hold forever. Part number 000 989 9271 09, about $35 a can, but 
> well worth it. It’s the same thing they use on hood pads, but I’ve never used 
> it for that because of the cost…
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
>> 
>> Coming along nicely! Where did you get the vinyl for the B pillars?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Got the dash nearly complete today despite my setback with a failed fuel 
>>> pump. Hope to finish it tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/3/15_Getting_Ahead(liner).html
>>> 
>>> Enjoy!
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Check this out

2019-03-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Bizarre.
-- 
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Charleston SC

On March 16, 2019 8:28:13 AM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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>https://www.copart.com/lot/39041698?fbclid=IwAR3gX1HyWWfxxHUh-fzUtg2UDnScu0lq9Avde4iBaCNbp7z9lURW_rAkaZ4
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[MBZ] Check this out

2019-03-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
https://www.copart.com/lot/39041698?fbclid=IwAR3gX1HyWWfxxHUh-fzUtg2UDnScu0lq9Avde4iBaCNbp7z9lURW_rAkaZ4

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Update

2019-03-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Thanks! I’m really pleased with it. I’m hoping to get the interior back 
together this weekend, so I’ll be posting more updates here, I’m sure.

JoAnn Fabrics. “Marine” vinyl, they call it. The brown color I used which was 
pretty close to the original, just slightly lighter, is being discontinued, so 
I bought a couple of yards when I could. Be sure to sign up for their coupons 
as they barrage you with them, making it easy to get stuff for 50% off or more.

I also use the Mercedes contact cement. It’s expensive, but damn, does it work 
well and hold forever. Part number 000 989 9271 09, about $35 a can, but well 
worth it. It’s the same thing they use on hood pads, but I’ve never used it for 
that because of the cost…

-D





> On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Dimitri  wrote:
> 
> Coming along nicely! Where did you get the vinyl for the B pillars?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Got the dash nearly complete today despite my setback with a failed fuel 
>> pump. Hope to finish it tomorrow.
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/3/15_Getting_Ahead(liner).html
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Update

2019-03-16 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Coming along nicely! Where did you get the vinyl for the B pillars?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Got the dash nearly complete today despite my setback with a failed fuel 
> pump. Hope to finish it tomorrow.
> 
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/3/15_Getting_Ahead(liner).html
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info

2019-03-16 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Heard this a.m. that they recovered the jack screw from the horizontal tail and 
it was trimmed to pitch the nose down.

I don't agree with Grant that it is reasonable for pilots to know everything 
about their jet.  In my experience, commercial pilots know the least, military 
pilots know nearly everything in the flight manual, and test pilots know a 
great deal more.  But nobody really knows everything in the software.

I recall an incident about 30 years ago where an F-16 began an uncommanded 
pitch oscillation (about +3g to -1g) for 10-20 secs that began during 
aggressive maneuvering.  This oscillation stopped as suddenly and mysteriously 
as it began.  That F-16 had a quad redundant digital flight control system and 
sensors and no faults were indicated.  That means that all computers agreed on 
every calculation and the air data sensors agreed on every measurement 
throughout the anomaly.  As far as I know, the cause was never found.

I don't condemn all digital flight controls.  I have seen F-16s land safely 
with entire control surfaces (rudder, aileron, one slab) gone.  But risk 
tolerance in an ejection-seat jet can be a lot higher than a commercial 
airliner.

Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 11:51 AM
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> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing 737 Max 8 info
> 
> Big nagging question in my mind - how do they replicate the failure when
> testing?
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