date:20200222

Look up Gay Larry, He’ll take you to the good places - the ones where guys 
won’t hit on you.

-D

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> I am flying into Ontario airport tomorrow afternoon for work on Monday.  
> Anybody in the area?
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Re: [MBZ] Radio works Larry's 300D

2020-02-22 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Attaboy.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> Thanks Dan,
>
> Your clue about waiting out the radio was right.   about 4 this
> afternoon, the Wait finally disappeared.  It took the code, and now is
> working.   I believe it was about 26 hours with the ign. on for the
> "wait" to time out.
>
>   Other than the NLA antenna seal, Larry's car is ready to go.  A German
> guy is selling aftermarket seals, so one is on the way.  The license
> plate came Wed, and it is on.   After we drive it and check out
> everything, it will get an oil change and antifreeze change.   Then
> it'll go into regular service.
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[MBZ] Anybody in the LA area?

2020-02-22 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

I am flying into Ontario airport tomorrow afternoon for work on Monday.  
Anybody in the area?



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Re: [MBZ] Take this bitches!

I figured if I ever needed one, that unless I got very lucky, I'd have 
to cut the vents in a regular fender or some such workaround.


Izzat from MB?


Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
February 22, 2020 at 7:44 PM
Yes. Right front fender rusted to oblivion.



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Re: [MBZ] Radio works Larry's 300D

It wasn’t just me. Someone else mentioned you should power up and wait, too…

I think the timer just piles on every time an attempt is made and fails. I seem 
to recall working on a spare radio I had a while back and fat fingering the 
code 3-4 times and it taking it the better part of a day to time out. Glad it’s 
working now.

-D

> On Feb 22, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> Thanks Dan,
> 
> Your clue about waiting out the radio was right.   about 4 this afternoon, 
> the Wait finally disappeared.  It took the code, and now is working.   I 
> believe it was about 26 hours with the ign. on for the "wait" to time out.
> 
>  Other than the NLA antenna seal, Larry's car is ready to go.  A German guy 
> is selling aftermarket seals, so one is on the way.  The license plate came 
> Wed, and it is on.   After we drive it and check out everything, it will get 
> an oil change and antifreeze change.   Then it'll go into regular service.
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Re: [MBZ] Take this bitches!

2020-02-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes

Yes. Right front fender rusted to oblivion.

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> On Feb 22, 2020, at 8:43 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
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> 
> Watcha need that for? Your new diesel that you drove back with the dead 
> alternator?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Feb 22, 2020 7:23:22 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
> :
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>> Ooooh oooh oooh a new vented w124 fender!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Take this bitches!



Watcha need that for? Your new diesel that you drove back with the dead 
alternator?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 22, 2020 7:23:22 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes :

> Ooooh oooh oooh a new vented w124 fender!
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Radio works Larry's 300D

2020-02-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes

Is this car a 2.5?

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> On Feb 22, 2020, at 8:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dan,
> 
> Your clue about waiting out the radio was right.   about 4 this afternoon, 
> the Wait finally disappeared.  It took the code, and now is working.   I 
> believe it was about 26 hours with the ign. on for the "wait" to time out.
> 
>  Other than the NLA antenna seal, Larry's car is ready to go.  A German guy 
> is selling aftermarket seals, so one is on the way.  The license plate came 
> Wed, and it is on.   After we drive it and check out everything, it will get 
> an oil change and antifreeze change.   Then it'll go into regular service.
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Re: [MBZ] Radio works Larry's 300D

2020-02-22 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes

Congratulations and attaboy!!
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
2019 Sprinter 470 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard,  Im Laden

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> On Feb 22, 2020, at 5:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dan,
> 
> Your clue about waiting out the radio was right.   about 4 this afternoon, 
> the Wait finally disappeared.  It took the code, and now is working.   I 
> believe it was about 26 hours with the ign. on for the "wait" to time out.
> 
>  Other than the NLA antenna seal, Larry's car is ready to go.  A German guy 
> is selling aftermarket seals, so one is on the way.  The license plate came 
> Wed, and it is on.   After we drive it and check out everything, it will get 
> an oil change and antifreeze change.   Then it'll go into regular service.
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[MBZ] Radio works Larry's 300D


Thanks Dan,

Your clue about waiting out the radio was right.   about 4 this 
afternoon, the Wait finally disappeared.  It took the code, and now is 
working.   I believe it was about 26 hours with the ign. on for the 
"wait" to time out.


 Other than the NLA antenna seal, Larry's car is ready to go.  A German 
guy is selling aftermarket seals, so one is on the way.  The license 
plate came Wed, and it is on.   After we drive it and check out 
everything, it will get an oil change and antifreeze change.   Then 
it'll go into regular service.


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Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

2020-02-22 Thread Clay via Mercedes

I know nought of electrons and wire diagrams, but figure you would be able to 
jigger around the wires on the interior to fit the need.  What I do see that 
would deter using 110v is that you have a 3hp motor.  Having worked in the pool 
business, that is a pretty stout motor which would have been on  220v 30 amp 
for pumps.

clay

> On Feb 22, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Depends.
> 
> UK as most of Europe has been 220V/50Hz forever. If it’s a purpose/market 
> built appliance, and it sounds like it is, he’s probably screwed unless he 
> wants to set up a 220V receptacle for it.
> 
> It’s unlikely it could be retired for a lower voltage.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A buddy of mine bought an Optimum blender from a guy in UK off ebay not 
>> thinking it will have the UK plug and their voltage (duh).  It is like a 
>> Vitamix but apparently better and more powerful, from an Aussie company but 
>> made in Taiwan.  AC220V-240V 50-60Hz rated 1500W, 3HP 2238W motor which is 
>> fairly powerful for a blender!
>> 
>> So the question is how to run it on US power.  I guess UK is now 230V single 
>> phase which means 230V hot<->neutral not like US 220V which is hot<-->hot 
>> across the 180deg phases.  Could you plug a UK appliance into a US 220V 
>> outlet (with proper adapter, or a new plug on the wire, paying attention to 
>> hot, neutral, ground wires) without frying it? (I'm guessing probably not).
>> 
>> Would it be possible to rewire the motor somehow to run on 110V? (I'm 
>> guessing not). I know some of my 110V stationary shop tools can run on 220V 
>> if you do something on the motor or switch wiring but I have never done 
>> that, going the other direction would be possible I guess?
>> 
>> Or just go buy a converter and run it off that? 
>> http://www.gohz.com/2000w-voltage-converter
>> 
>> He was going to contact the company and see what they might recommend.  I 
>> was thinking if they sell their products in 110V countries (which might not 
>> be so) they would either have different motors or some alternative wiring 
>> scheme.
>> 
>> -- 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1966 MERCEDES BENZ 200D FENTIL BODY ($11,000)

2020-02-22 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

Right? Almost everyone out here utilizes English as a second language.
There certainly many sketchy things about this.

Bob R

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> On Feb 22, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What’s a “FENTIL”?
> 
> Based on the description, it sounds scary. The “brand new upholstery” and LED 
> lights give me great pause. Certainly not $11k.
> 
> Pictures if you want anything remotely accurate in the way of a value.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:26 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What do you reckon this should go for?
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Bob Rentfro 
>>> Date: February 22, 2020 at 5:22:58 PM MST
>>> To: Bob Rentfro 
>>> Subject: 1966 MERCEDES BENZ 200D FENTIL BODY ($11,000)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I found this 1966 MERCEDES BENZ 200D FENTIL BODY for $11,000 on OfferUp, 
>>> near Scottsdale, AZ. Check it out.
>>> 
>>> 1966 MERCEDES BENZ 200D, 66000 MILES, CLEAN TITLE NOT ONLY A SHOW CAR BY 
>>> ANY MESURE DAILEY DRIVER, 4 CYLENDER DIESEL THEY ARE KNOWN AS THEY LAST 
>>> LONG TIME AND ONLY CHANGES THE DRIVERS, BRAND NEW TIRES, BRAND NEW 
>>> UPHOLSTERY INCLUDING HEADLINER, LIGHTS ARE ALL LEDS, RUNS AND DRIVES SMOOTH 
>>> ONLY 66000 MILES ON IT IS A COLLECTIVE 200D, ILL CALL THIS AN AWESOME CAR, 
>>> FENTIL BODY, CLASSIC, ANTIQUE PLEASE CALL {contact info removed} 
>>> more details…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1966 MERCEDES BENZ 200D FENTIL BODY ($11,000)

What’s a “FENTIL”?

Based on the description, it sounds scary. The “brand new upholstery” and LED 
lights give me great pause. Certainly not $11k.

Pictures if you want anything remotely accurate in the way of a value.

-D


> On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:26 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What do you reckon this should go for?
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Bob Rentfro 
>> Date: February 22, 2020 at 5:22:58 PM MST
>> To: Bob Rentfro 
>> Subject: 1966 MERCEDES BENZ 200D FENTIL BODY ($11,000)
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I found this 1966 MERCEDES BENZ 200D FENTIL BODY for $11,000 on OfferUp, 
>> near Scottsdale, AZ. Check it out.
>> 
>> 1966 MERCEDES BENZ 200D, 66000 MILES, CLEAN TITLE NOT ONLY A SHOW CAR BY ANY 
>> MESURE DAILEY DRIVER, 4 CYLENDER DIESEL THEY ARE KNOWN AS THEY LAST LONG 
>> TIME AND ONLY CHANGES THE DRIVERS, BRAND NEW TIRES, BRAND NEW UPHOLSTERY 
>> INCLUDING HEADLINER, LIGHTS ARE ALL LEDS, RUNS AND DRIVES SMOOTH ONLY 66000 
>> MILES ON IT IS A COLLECTIVE 200D, ILL CALL THIS AN AWESOME CAR, FENTIL BODY, 
>> CLASSIC, ANTIQUE PLEASE CALL {contact info removed} 
>> more details…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Take this bitches!

Nice. Sheet metal porn.

-D



> On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
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> Ooooh oooh oooh a new vented w124 fender!
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[MBZ] Fwd: 1966 MERCEDES BENZ 200D FENTIL BODY ($11,000)

2020-02-22 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

What do you reckon this should go for?

Bob R

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Bob Rentfro 
> Date: February 22, 2020 at 5:22:58 PM MST
> To: Bob Rentfro 
> Subject: 1966 MERCEDES BENZ 200D FENTIL BODY ($11,000)
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I found this 1966 MERCEDES BENZ 200D FENTIL BODY for $11,000 on OfferUp, near 
> Scottsdale, AZ. Check it out.
> 
> 1966 MERCEDES BENZ 200D, 66000 MILES, CLEAN TITLE NOT ONLY A SHOW CAR BY ANY 
> MESURE DAILEY DRIVER, 4 CYLENDER DIESEL THEY ARE KNOWN AS THEY LAST LONG TIME 
> AND ONLY CHANGES THE DRIVERS, BRAND NEW TIRES, BRAND NEW UPHOLSTERY INCLUDING 
> HEADLINER, LIGHTS ARE ALL LEDS, RUNS AND DRIVES SMOOTH ONLY 66000 MILES ON IT 
> IS A COLLECTIVE 200D, ILL CALL THIS AN AWESOME CAR, FENTIL BODY, CLASSIC, 
> ANTIQUE PLEASE CALL {contact info removed} 
> more details…
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

Maybe Floyd can check out the motor.   If it is a universal motor, then 
he is home free.   I was not willing to assume it was.   He should 
probably still check out the plug with an ohmmeter to see if both prongs 
are isolated from the case. If indeed it was made for +230 and common, 
they may have connected the case to common.  (that would be +120V on a 
us 240 plug.   If the 2 prongs are isolated, and it is a universal 
motor, then he just needs a 230V outlet for it or to change the plug to 
fit an existing outlet.



Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
February 22, 2020 at 4:58 PM

The common brush-style motor used in small appliances, the
high-speed noisy ones, are also known as "universal" motors.
They will run on DC, or AC of the 20Hz, 50Hz, 60Hz variety.
They simply do not care. They might have a problem with 400Hz,
if the frequency is too high for the magnetics. But, probably not.

If there's a problem, it won't be in the motor.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

2020-02-22 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

> The motor will not run as it should on 60 cycle power..

The common brush-style motor used in small appliances, the
high-speed noisy ones, are also known as "universal" motors.
They will run on DC, or AC of the 20Hz, 50Hz, 60Hz variety.
They simply do not care.  They might have a problem with 400Hz,
if the frequency is too high for the magnetics.  But, probably not.

If there's a problem, it won't be in the motor.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

True, but floyd's original post said it was rated 220-240v 50-60 
cycle.   so the isolation transformer should do the trick without 
breaking the bank.



G Mann via Mercedes 
February 22, 2020 at 2:18 PM
Major issue not being addressed in this thread..
USA 220v is 60 cycle
EU 220v is 50 cycle..
Even is you match wiring to a USA plug, you still have the cycle problem.
The motor will not run as it should on 60 cycle power..
Someone, somewhere makes a "converter" that will step the 60 cycle USA to
50 cycle EU.. I believe you will need to find one of those before you plug
it in and watch the electrons escape in the form of smelly smoke...



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Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

2020-02-22 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Excellent, it's a non issue then.
Should be able to change over to a USA type 220 plug and expect it to run.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 1:46 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It says 50/60 is OK for the motor
>
> --FT
>
> On 2/22/20 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > Major issue not being addressed in this thread..
> > USA 220v is 60 cycle
> > EU   220v is 50 cycle..
> > Even is you match wiring  to a USA plug, you still have the cycle
> problem.
> > The motor will not run as it should on 60 cycle power..
> > Someone, somewhere makes a "converter" that will step the 60 cycle USA to
> > 50 cycle EU.. I believe you will need to find one of those before you
> plug
> > it in and watch the electrons escape in the form of smelly smoke...
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 12:59 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> ohmmeter is yor friend on appliance.  jim might be able to answer other
> >> part if you know the motor design.
> >>
> >>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >>> February 22, 2020 at 1:50 PM
> >>> Well that is what I am wondering.  I could wire a 220V socket off his
> >>> dryer outlet but I am wondering if the US version of 220V (hot-hot)
> >>> would be compatible with the UK version of 220V (hot-neutral).  I'm
> >>> thinking electrically it is just voltage across the poles but I'm
> >>> wondering if the neutral on the appliance is somehow an actual neutral
> >>> like to ground or something, or if that would even make a difference.
> >>> I don't want to fry the appliance or the operator.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

2020-02-22 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes


It says 50/60 is OK for the motor

--FT

On 2/22/20 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Major issue not being addressed in this thread..
USA 220v is 60 cycle
EU   220v is 50 cycle..
Even is you match wiring  to a USA plug, you still have the cycle problem.
The motor will not run as it should on 60 cycle power..
Someone, somewhere makes a "converter" that will step the 60 cycle USA to
50 cycle EU.. I believe you will need to find one of those before you plug
it in and watch the electrons escape in the form of smelly smoke...

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 12:59 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


ohmmeter is yor friend on appliance.  jim might be able to answer other
part if you know the motor design.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
February 22, 2020 at 1:50 PM
Well that is what I am wondering.  I could wire a 220V socket off his
dryer outlet but I am wondering if the US version of 220V (hot-hot)
would be compatible with the UK version of 220V (hot-neutral).  I'm
thinking electrically it is just voltage across the poles but I'm
wondering if the neutral on the appliance is somehow an actual neutral
like to ground or something, or if that would even make a difference.
I don't want to fry the appliance or the operator.

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Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

2020-02-22 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Major issue not being addressed in this thread..
USA 220v is 60 cycle
EU   220v is 50 cycle..
Even is you match wiring  to a USA plug, you still have the cycle problem.
The motor will not run as it should on 60 cycle power..
Someone, somewhere makes a "converter" that will step the 60 cycle USA to
50 cycle EU.. I believe you will need to find one of those before you plug
it in and watch the electrons escape in the form of smelly smoke...

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 12:59 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> ohmmeter is yor friend on appliance.  jim might be able to answer other
> part if you know the motor design.
>
> > Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> > February 22, 2020 at 1:50 PM
> > Well that is what I am wondering.  I could wire a 220V socket off his
> > dryer outlet but I am wondering if the US version of 220V (hot-hot)
> > would be compatible with the UK version of 220V (hot-neutral).  I'm
> > thinking electrically it is just voltage across the poles but I'm
> > wondering if the neutral on the appliance is somehow an actual neutral
> > like to ground or something, or if that would even make a difference.
> > I don't want to fry the appliance or the operator.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

ohmmeter is yor friend on appliance.  jim might be able to answer other 
part if you know the motor design.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
February 22, 2020 at 1:50 PM
Well that is what I am wondering.  I could wire a 220V socket off his 
dryer outlet but I am wondering if the US version of 220V (hot-hot) 
would be compatible with the UK version of 220V (hot-neutral).  I'm 
thinking electrically it is just voltage across the poles but I'm 
wondering if the neutral on the appliance is somehow an actual neutral 
like to ground or something, or if that would even make a difference.  
I don't want to fry the appliance or the operator.


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Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

2020-02-22 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes

Isolation transformer would be safest.
ie 220Vac to 220Vac.and no current path between input and output.
Your local electrical supply house is your friend.
Fred.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 2:51 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well that is what I am wondering.  I could wire a 220V socket off his
> dryer outlet but I am wondering if the US version of 220V (hot-hot)
> would be compatible with the UK version of 220V (hot-neutral).  I'm
> thinking electrically it is just voltage across the poles but I'm
> wondering if the neutral on the appliance is somehow an actual neutral
> like to ground or something, or if that would even make a difference.  I
> don't want to fry the appliance or the operator.
>
> --FT
>
> On 2/22/20 2:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Depends.
> >
> > UK as most of Europe has been 220V/50Hz forever. If it’s a
> purpose/market built appliance, and it sounds like it is, he’s probably
> screwed unless he wants to set up a 220V receptacle for it.
> >
> > It’s unlikely it could be retired for a lower voltage.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> A buddy of mine bought an Optimum blender from a guy in UK off ebay
> not thinking it will have the UK plug and their voltage (duh).  It is like
> a Vitamix but apparently better and more powerful, from an Aussie company
> but made in Taiwan.  AC220V-240V 50-60Hz rated 1500W, 3HP 2238W motor which
> is fairly powerful for a blender!
> >>
> >> So the question is how to run it on US power.  I guess UK is now 230V
> single phase which means 230V hot<->neutral not like US 220V which is
> hot<-->hot across the 180deg phases.  Could you plug a UK appliance into a
> US 220V outlet (with proper adapter, or a new plug on the wire, paying
> attention to hot, neutral, ground wires) without frying it? (I'm guessing
> probably not).
> >>
> >> Would it be possible to rewire the motor somehow to run on 110V? (I'm
> guessing not). I know some of my 110V stationary shop tools can run on 220V
> if you do something on the motor or switch wiring but I have never done
> that, going the other direction would be possible I guess?
> >>
> >> Or just go buy a converter and run it off that?
> http://www.gohz.com/2000w-voltage-converter
> >>
> >> He was going to contact the company and see what they might recommend.
> I was thinking if they sell their products in 110V countries (which might
> not be so) they would either have different motors or some alternative
> wiring scheme.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

2020-02-22 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Well that is what I am wondering. I could wire a 220V socket off his
dryer outlet but I am wondering if the US version of 220V (hot-hot)
would be compatible with the UK version of 220V (hot-neutral). I'm
thinking electrically it is just voltage across the poles but I'm
wondering if the neutral on the appliance is somehow an actual neutral
like to ground or something, or if that would even make a difference. I
don't want to fry the appliance or the operator.

--FT

On 2/22/20 2:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Depends.

UK as most of Europe has been 220V/50Hz forever. If it’s a purpose/market built
appliance, and it sounds like it is, he’s probably screwed unless he wants to
set up a 220V receptacle for it.

It’s unlikely it could be retired for a lower voltage.

-D

On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
wrote:

A buddy of mine bought an Optimum blender from a guy in UK off ebay not
thinking it will have the UK plug and their voltage (duh). It is like a
Vitamix but apparently better and more powerful, from an Aussie company but
made in Taiwan. AC220V-240V 50-60Hz rated 1500W, 3HP 2238W motor which is
fairly powerful for a blender!

So the question is how to run it on US power. I guess UK is now 230V single phase which
means 230V hot<->neutral not like US 220V which is hot<-->hot across the 180deg
phases. Could you plug a UK appliance into a US 220V outlet (with proper adapter, or a new
plug on the wire, paying attention to hot, neutral, ground wires) without frying it? (I'm
guessing probably not).

Would it be possible to rewire the motor somehow to run on 110V? (I'm guessing
not). I know some of my 110V stationary shop tools can run on 220V if you do
something on the motor or switch wiring but I have never done that, going the
other direction would be possible I guess?

Or just go buy a converter and run it off that?
http://www.gohz.com/2000w-voltage-converter

He was going to contact the company and see what they might recommend. I was
thinking if they sell their products in 110V countries (which might not be so)
they would either have different motors or some alternative wiring scheme.

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Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

Depends.

UK as most of Europe has been 220V/50Hz forever. If it’s a purpose/market built 
appliance, and it sounds like it is, he’s probably screwed unless he wants to 
set up a 220V receptacle for it.

It’s unlikely it could be retired for a lower voltage.

-D

> On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A buddy of mine bought an Optimum blender from a guy in UK off ebay not 
> thinking it will have the UK plug and their voltage (duh).  It is like a 
> Vitamix but apparently better and more powerful, from an Aussie company but 
> made in Taiwan.  AC220V-240V 50-60Hz rated 1500W, 3HP 2238W motor which is 
> fairly powerful for a blender!
> 
> So the question is how to run it on US power.  I guess UK is now 230V single 
> phase which means 230V hot<->neutral not like US 220V which is hot<-->hot 
> across the 180deg phases.  Could you plug a UK appliance into a US 220V 
> outlet (with proper adapter, or a new plug on the wire, paying attention to 
> hot, neutral, ground wires) without frying it? (I'm guessing probably not).
> 
> Would it be possible to rewire the motor somehow to run on 110V? (I'm 
> guessing not). I know some of my 110V stationary shop tools can run on 220V 
> if you do something on the motor or switch wiring but I have never done that, 
> going the other direction would be possible I guess?
> 
> Or just go buy a converter and run it off that? 
> http://www.gohz.com/2000w-voltage-converter
> 
> He was going to contact the company and see what they might recommend.  I was 
> thinking if they sell their products in 110V countries (which might not be 
> so) they would either have different motors or some alternative wiring scheme.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US



The converter would be easiest I think.

I think it would run fine on a US receptacle? I am sure that would not fry it, 
but maybe it would not be safe from a shock hazard perspective?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 22, 2020 2:35:24 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> A buddy of mine bought an Optimum blender from a guy in UK off ebay not
> thinking it will have the UK plug and their voltage (duh). It is like a
> Vitamix but apparently better and more powerful, from an Aussie company
> but made in Taiwan. AC220V-240V 50-60Hz rated 1500W, 3HP 2238W motor
> which is fairly powerful for a blender!
> 
> So the question is how to run it on US power. I guess UK is now 230V
> single phase which means 230V hot<->neutral not like US 220V which is
> hot<-->hot across the 180deg phases. Could you plug a UK appliance into
> a US 220V outlet (with proper adapter, or a new plug on the wire, paying
> attention to hot, neutral, ground wires) without frying it? (I'm
> guessing probably not).
> 
> Would it be possible to rewire the motor somehow to run on 110V? (I'm
> guessing not). I know some of my 110V stationary shop tools can run on
> 220V if you do something on the motor or switch wiring but I have never
> done that, going the other direction would be possible I guess?
> 
> Or just go buy a converter and run it off that?
> http://www.gohz.com/2000w-voltage-converter
> 
> He was going to contact the company and see what they might recommend.
> I was thinking if they sell their products in 110V countries (which
> might not be so) they would either have different motors or some
> alternative wiring scheme.
> 
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[MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

2020-02-22 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

A buddy of mine bought an Optimum blender from a guy in UK off ebay not 
thinking it will have the UK plug and their voltage (duh).  It is like a 
Vitamix but apparently better and more powerful, from an Aussie company 
but made in Taiwan.  AC220V-240V 50-60Hz rated 1500W, 3HP 2238W motor 
which is fairly powerful for a blender!


So the question is how to run it on US power.  I guess UK is now 230V 
single phase which means 230V hot<->neutral not like US 220V which is 
hot<-->hot across the 180deg phases.  Could you plug a UK appliance into 
a US 220V outlet (with proper adapter, or a new plug on the wire, paying 
attention to hot, neutral, ground wires) without frying it? (I'm 
guessing probably not).


Would it be possible to rewire the motor somehow to run on 110V? (I'm 
guessing not). I know some of my 110V stationary shop tools can run on 
220V if you do something on the motor or switch wiring but I have never 
done that, going the other direction would be possible I guess?


Or just go buy a converter and run it off that? 
http://www.gohz.com/2000w-voltage-converter


He was going to contact the company and see what they might recommend.  
I was thinking if they sell their products in 110V countries (which 
might not be so) they would either have different motors or some 
alternative wiring scheme.


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Re: [MBZ] 500SL or SLC?



If I substitute the leading 2 with a W, it comes up as a 500SL.

Too bad it will be crushed.

Max Dillon
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Feb 22, 2020 2:00:18 PM Max Dillon :

> 
> This just arrived at local LKQ, it is a Euro model with small bumpers and 
> Euro lights. They have it labeled as a 500SEL, but it is an R 107.
> 
> 2DB1070461A009403
> 
> 
> Can someone run that VIN?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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