Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

It took several months of Italian tune ups before this '95 E300 from Dan's son 
was producing decent power, I'd not be surprised if your car will respond in 
the same way.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Aug 3, 2020 8:55:54 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> I have not really researched it yet but like I mentioned I hope it can be 
> cleaned up like the gassers. In any case I was aware of it and knew I would 
> have to deal with it. I have it a few hard acceleration runs this evening and 
> it actually seems like it lightened up a little. I kind of like the rolling 
> coal effect.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If it makes serious smoke under hard acceleration, the EGR is stuck open.  
>> Or at least not closing properly.  Had this issue on the Volvo TD, very 
>> serious smoke.  Plated off the EGR on that one, it really only needed the 
>> actuator rod cleaned so it closed properly (and all the goop cleaned out 
>> from using dino oil in it).
>> 
>> In your case you will have to fix it, which is probably why the car went for 
>> cheap.
>> 
>> It will run better when it's working -- unlike gasoline cars, max EGR is 
>> just above idle and drops as the fuel comes on.  If it doesn't close under 
>> acceleration, you don't have enough oxygen for the fuel going in and it 
>> smokes badly.  Wide open at idle doesn't have much effect as you aren't 
>> putting very much fuel in.
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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, Dan makes good deals, I was mighty tempted to make an offer on this sedan. 
 Kaleb should be pleased.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Aug 3, 2020 8:59:40 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :

> Another “Deal from Dan”.
> 
> You’re welcome.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Nice, sounds like a great deal!  Stop in at Chucktown?  I'll buy you a cup 
>> of coffee and a sandwich!
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Aug 3, 2020 6:54:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
>> 
>>> The CDI says it got 48.5 MPG over 500 miles today averaging 75-80mph. That 
>>> did include a little bid of city driving yesterday.  Do these really get 
>>> that good of mileage? It’s about half way between a half and quarter tank. 
>>> I will probably go ahead and fill it up in the morning and see what the 
>>> manual calculation comes out to.
>>> 
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[MBZ] I used the vacuum-assisted coolant refiller ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

on our '93 E300D and found there is a leak in the cooling system
somewhere.

I found the ultimate vacuum by plugging the port to the radiator with my
finger and turned the air on. When I repeated the process with the unit
attached to the cooling reservoir fill cap, it did not reach the final
vacuum and when I closed the valve to the cooling system, it started
leaking up to atmosphere.

I'm mulling over how to find out where the leak is.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT eee say eee yah say uss

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On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 21:01:12 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Passed. Nothing much happened. A bit of rain. No wind here at the vast
> estate. Sky cleared, beautiful sunset. I guess NC will get whacked as
> it comes ashore 

I looked on the radar and North Carolina was indeed getting whacked.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep

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> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:48 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are you getting that 48.5mpg on Free used fryer oil you’re picking up along 
> the way?  Is the AC BLOWING ICE COLD?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hahahah. Oh yea I’m not sure that is actually has the rare Zundfolge engine 
>> like you said it did. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah they are. Just move around when you turn, like lean into it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 I don’t think the dynamic seats are working. I’m going to have to start 
 bitching about it. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Another “Deal from Dan”.
> 
> You’re welcome.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice, sounds like a great deal!  Stop in at Chucktown?  I'll buy you a 
>> cup of coffee and a sandwich!
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Aug 3, 2020 6:54:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> :
>> 
>>> The CDI says it got 48.5 MPG over 500 miles today averaging 75-80mph. 
>>> That did include a little bid of city driving yesterday.  Do these 
>>> really get that good of mileage? It’s about half way between a half and 
>>> quarter tank. I will probably go ahead and fill it up in the morning 
>>> and see what the manual calculation comes out to.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2021 S-class technology

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

And the inshoounce preemyums are like $1k a month

--FT
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> On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:28 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, August 3, 2020 10:18 pm, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> All of those fine things sound like they will make the car cost less...
>> right?
> 
> I see good and bad in that side-impact thing.
> If the impact hits the sill, there's less intrusion into the cabin, good.
> If the car raises 3", that's a significant change in center of gravity,
> would increase the chance of rolling the car, especially since somebody
> just T-boned you, bad.
> If the impact hits the sill, we have frame damage, and the car is
> virtually guaranteed to be totaled. Good news, MBUSA gets to sell you a
> new one!
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Re: [MBZ] 2021 S-class technology

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On Mon, August 3, 2020 10:18 pm, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> All of those fine things sound like they will make the car cost less...
> right?

I see good and bad in that side-impact thing.
If the impact hits the sill, there's less intrusion into the cabin, good.
If the car raises 3", that's a significant change in center of gravity,
would increase the chance of rolling the car, especially since somebody
just T-boned you, bad.
If the impact hits the sill, we have frame damage, and the car is
virtually guaranteed to be totaled. Good news, MBUSA gets to sell you a
new one!

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Re: [MBZ] 2020 S-class technology

[G Mann via Mercedes]

All of those fine things sound like they will make the car cost less...
right?

And.. at the end of the warranty period fail, then disable the car, so
you have to have it towed to the dealer while you are hooked to a blood
draw machine to suck your blood out.

A... the old simple 240D looks better every day

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 6:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I need one
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > 
> https://www.autoweek.com/news/future-cars/g33456533/5-tech-features-rolling-into-the-next-mercedes-s-class/
> >
> > 1. Front airbags for rear seat passengers, built into the front
> headrests.
> >
> > 2. 4 wheel steering. (just like a 30 year old Prelude?)
> >
> > 3. Active side warning (if it senses your hand moving towards the door
> > handle and there's something coming from behind, it sounds an alarm,
> > startling you into opening the door quickly so that cyclist doesn't get
> > away).
> >
> > 4. E-Active Body Control (another new form of active ride control)
> >
> > 5. Pre-Safe Impulse Side (thanks to #4 above, the car has the ability to
> > jump up 3" when you're about to be T-boned, to take the impact lower on
> > the door and involve the chassis structure in the collision).
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Speaking of shotguns, where in the world are these made?
Turkey? China?
My Mossberg (Western Field) pump was $100 in the Wards catalog, in 1976
dollars.

https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker?sku=140220556

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Maybe you can tell me why my Mac occasionally wakes from sleep and the 
machine’s monitor won’t come alive but the external monitor does. I have to 
reboot it(unplug it plug back in) and it will work ok again for some random 
number of sleep wakes. 

--FT
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> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've periodically reported on my various Adventures in Computing, and I
> thought I'd check in again.  As some may recall, I upgraded my main
> desktop home/work (now) system from a Mac Pro 2,1 to a Mac Pro 5,1
> (both were common firmware upgrades from the immediately preceding models,
> followed by CPU upgrades), and I had a LOT of trouble trying to run a pair of 
> spendy
> 3.46 GHz processors. These were unreliable in a pair, but either would work 
> great
> in a single-CPU card.  I finally gave up and put in some cheaper, slower 2.93 
> GHz
> processors, a speed that matched what it had in its 4,1 state, and the thing 
> hasn't
> hiccuped since.  I booted it on May 28, the morning I installed the 
> stock-speed but
> upgrade CPUs, and it's been running nonstop ever since.  (Yes, "who -b" says
> May 28.)
> 
> I run Mac OS High Sierra, almost the newest it will take.  I also run, via 
> VMWare 11,
> Windows 10 and Linux.  I also run Raspbian via Qemu, since I'm developing for
> Raspberry Pi as well.  (For use in the Theme Park augmenting coin slots with
> the Park's cash-equivalent cards.)  All of these work flawlessly, and 
> simultaneously,
> using multiple desktops to keep the mess contained on the 30" main monitor.
> It never even breathes hard, it has 48GB of RAM.
> 
> It has been an exceedingly painless and highly effective and satisfying time
> since I got off the Gigawagon.  Nothing I do is even remotely CPU-bound, 
> except
> the ARM simulation.  And that is about the same speed as a Pi 1B, so it's not
> horrible.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 24in DUBs included with the car

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Well it originally meant something like “doubled” like in 2 more inches of rim 
and/or tire or something. Or it might have been 22” rims (“doubles”) and twenny 
fos was double dubs. Or something. In any case it’s stupid. 

--FT
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> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>  Urban dictionary says the W = win but your explanation seems more likely...
> -Curt
> 
>>On Monday, August 3, 2020, 9:26:08 PM EDT, Jim Cathey 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> The big stupid wheels. Urban dictionary suggests that "dub" roughly means 
>> "win" so the dork with the biggest wheels is winning and gets all the chicks 
>> I guess.
> 
> I think it's even stupider than that.  "Dub" short for double-U, as in "w", 
> as in "wheels".
> I've never even known one 'chick' to give a flying fork about anything like 
> that.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 2020 S-class technology

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I need one

--FT
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> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> https://www.autoweek.com/news/future-cars/g33456533/5-tech-features-rolling-into-the-next-mercedes-s-class/
> 
> 1. Front airbags for rear seat passengers, built into the front headrests.
> 
> 2. 4 wheel steering. (just like a 30 year old Prelude?)
> 
> 3. Active side warning (if it senses your hand moving towards the door
> handle and there's something coming from behind, it sounds an alarm,
> startling you into opening the door quickly so that cyclist doesn't get
> away).
> 
> 4. E-Active Body Control (another new form of active ride control)
> 
> 5. Pre-Safe Impulse Side (thanks to #4 above, the car has the ability to
> jump up 3" when you're about to be T-boned, to take the impact lower on
> the door and involve the chassis structure in the collision).
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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

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Are you getting that 48.5mpg on Free used fryer oil you’re picking up along the 
way?  Is the AC BLOWING ICE COLD?

--FT
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> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hahahah. Oh yea I’m not sure that is actually has the rare Zundfolge engine 
> like you said it did. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah they are. Just move around when you turn, like lean into it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t think the dynamic seats are working. I’m going to have to start 
>>> bitching about it. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Another “Deal from Dan”.
 
 You’re welcome.
 
 -D
 
> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nice, sounds like a great deal!  Stop in at Chucktown?  I'll buy you a 
> cup of coffee and a sandwich!
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Aug 3, 2020 6:54:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> :
> 
>> The CDI says it got 48.5 MPG over 500 miles today averaging 75-80mph. 
>> That did include a little bid of city driving yesterday.  Do these 
>> really get that good of mileage? It’s about half way between a half and 
>> quarter tank. I will probably go ahead and fill it up in the morning and 
>> see what the manual calculation comes out to.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 24in DUBs included with the car

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I see them occasionally here but I think its folks headed to/from Keene.
Its hilarious to see when the wheels are worth more than the car.
-Curt

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 9:34:39 PM EDT, Dwight Giles 
 wrote:  
 
 Ok thanks. Not something here in rural RI.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 9:17 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:

 The big stupid wheels. Urban dictionary suggests that "dub" roughly means 
"win" so the dork with the biggest wheels is winning and gets all the chicks I 
guess.
-Curt

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 9:13:15 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Forgive my ignorance but what are 24in DUB's?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 9:44 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1863239070481073/
>
> 2008 Mercedes-Benz S-Class
> $11,000
> Vehicles 
> Listed 4 days ago in High Point, NC
> 
>
>
>    About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 189,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Grey
>
>
>    Seller's description…
>
> Well maintained, excellent condition and 24in DUBs included with the car.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 24in DUBs included with the car

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Ok thanks. Not something here in rural RI.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 9:17 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:

> The big stupid wheels. Urban dictionary suggests that "dub" roughly means
> "win" so the dork with the biggest wheels is winning and gets all the
> chicks I guess.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, August 3, 2020, 9:13:15 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
> Forgive my ignorance but what are 24in DUB's?
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
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> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1863239070481073/
> >
> > 2008 Mercedes-Benz S-Class
> > $11,000
> > Vehicles 
> > Listed 4 days ago in High Point, NC
> > 
> >
> >
> >About This Vehicle…
> >
> > Driven 189,000 miles
> > Automatic transmission
> > Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Grey
> >
> >
> >Seller's description…
> >
> > Well maintained, excellent condition and 24in DUBs included with the car.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 24in DUBs included with the car

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Urban dictionary says the W = win but your explanation seems more likely...
-Curt

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 9:26:08 PM EDT, Jim Cathey 
 wrote:  
 
 > The big stupid wheels. Urban dictionary suggests that "dub" roughly means 
 > "win" so the dork with the biggest wheels is winning and gets all the chicks 
 > I guess.

I think it's even stupider than that.  "Dub" short for double-U, as in "w", as 
in "wheels".
I've never even known one 'chick' to give a flying fork about anything like 
that.

-- Jim
  
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[MBZ] 2020 S-class technology

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

https://www.autoweek.com/news/future-cars/g33456533/5-tech-features-rolling-into-the-next-mercedes-s-class/

1. Front airbags for rear seat passengers, built into the front headrests.

2. 4 wheel steering. (just like a 30 year old Prelude?)

3. Active side warning (if it senses your hand moving towards the door
handle and there's something coming from behind, it sounds an alarm,
startling you into opening the door quickly so that cyclist doesn't get
away).

4. E-Active Body Control (another new form of active ride control)

5. Pre-Safe Impulse Side (thanks to #4 above, the car has the ability to
jump up 3" when you're about to be T-boned, to take the impact lower on
the door and involve the chassis structure in the collision).

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Re: [MBZ] 24in DUBs included with the car

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> The big stupid wheels. Urban dictionary suggests that "dub" roughly means 
> "win" so the dork with the biggest wheels is winning and gets all the chicks 
> I guess.

I think it's even stupider than that.  "Dub" short for double-U, as in "w", as 
in "wheels".
I've never even known one 'chick' to give a flying fork about anything like 
that.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] OT: Computers

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I've periodically reported on my various Adventures in Computing, and I
thought I'd check in again.  As some may recall, I upgraded my main
desktop home/work (now) system from a Mac Pro 2,1 to a Mac Pro 5,1
(both were common firmware upgrades from the immediately preceding models,
followed by CPU upgrades), and I had a LOT of trouble trying to run a pair of 
spendy
3.46 GHz processors. These were unreliable in a pair, but either would work 
great
in a single-CPU card.  I finally gave up and put in some cheaper, slower 2.93 
GHz
processors, a speed that matched what it had in its 4,1 state, and the thing 
hasn't
hiccuped since.  I booted it on May 28, the morning I installed the stock-speed 
but
upgrade CPUs, and it's been running nonstop ever since.  (Yes, "who -b" says
May 28.)

I run Mac OS High Sierra, almost the newest it will take.  I also run, via 
VMWare 11,
Windows 10 and Linux.  I also run Raspbian via Qemu, since I'm developing for
Raspberry Pi as well.  (For use in the Theme Park augmenting coin slots with
the Park's cash-equivalent cards.)  All of these work flawlessly, and 
simultaneously,
using multiple desktops to keep the mess contained on the 30" main monitor.
It never even breathes hard, it has 48GB of RAM.

It has been an exceedingly painless and highly effective and satisfying time
since I got off the Gigawagon.  Nothing I do is even remotely CPU-bound, except
the ARM simulation.  And that is about the same speed as a Pi 1B, so it's not
horrible.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

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Hahahah. Oh yea I’m not sure that is actually has the rare Zundfolge engine 
like you said it did. 

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> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> Yeah they are. Just move around when you turn, like lean into it.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> 
>> I don’t think the dynamic seats are working. I’m going to have to start 
>> bitching about it. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Another “Deal from Dan”.
>>> 
>>> You’re welcome.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Nice, sounds like a great deal!  Stop in at Chucktown?  I'll buy you a cup 
 of coffee and a sandwich!
 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 
 Aug 3, 2020 6:54:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
 
> The CDI says it got 48.5 MPG over 500 miles today averaging 75-80mph. 
> That did include a little bid of city driving yesterday.  Do these really 
> get that good of mileage? It’s about half way between a half and quarter 
> tank. I will probably go ahead and fill it up in the morning and see what 
> the manual calculation comes out to.
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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

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Yeah they are. Just move around when you turn, like lean into it.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> I don’t think the dynamic seats are working. I’m going to have to start 
> bitching about it. 
> 
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>> 
>> Another “Deal from Dan”.
>> 
>> You’re welcome.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nice, sounds like a great deal!  Stop in at Chucktown?  I'll buy you a cup 
>>> of coffee and a sandwich!
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> Aug 3, 2020 6:54:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
>>> 
 The CDI says it got 48.5 MPG over 500 miles today averaging 75-80mph. That 
 did include a little bid of city driving yesterday.  Do these really get 
 that good of mileage? It’s about half way between a half and quarter tank. 
 I will probably go ahead and fill it up in the morning and see what the 
 manual calculation comes out to.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 24in DUBs included with the car

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The big stupid wheels. Urban dictionary suggests that "dub" roughly means 
"win" so the dork with the biggest wheels is winning and gets all the chicks I 
guess.
-Curt

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 9:13:15 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Forgive my ignorance but what are 24in DUB's?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1863239070481073/
>
> 2008 Mercedes-Benz S-Class
> $11,000
> Vehicles 
> Listed 4 days ago in High Point, NC
> 
>
>
>    About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 189,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Grey
>
>
>    Seller's description…
>
> Well maintained, excellent condition and 24in DUBs included with the car.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

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I don’t think the dynamic seats are working. I’m going to have to start 
bitching about it. 

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> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> Another “Deal from Dan”.
> 
> You’re welcome.
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> -D
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Nice, sounds like a great deal!  Stop in at Chucktown?  I'll buy you a cup 
>> of coffee and a sandwich!
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Aug 3, 2020 6:54:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
>> 
>>> The CDI says it got 48.5 MPG over 500 miles today averaging 75-80mph. That 
>>> did include a little bid of city driving yesterday.  Do these really get 
>>> that good of mileage? It’s about half way between a half and quarter tank. 
>>> I will probably go ahead and fill it up in the morning and see what the 
>>> manual calculation comes out to.
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Re: [MBZ] 24in DUBs included with the car

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

24'? Must be for truck?

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 9:15 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Wheels.
>
> -D
>
> > On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:12 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Forgive my ignorance but what are 24in DUB's?
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 9:44 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1863239070481073/
> >>
> >> 2008 Mercedes-Benz S-Class
> >> $11,000
> >> Vehicles 
> >> Listed 4 days ago in High Point, NC
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>About This Vehicle…
> >>
> >> Driven 189,000 miles
> >> Automatic transmission
> >> Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Grey
> >>
> >>
> >>Seller's description…
> >>
> >> Well maintained, excellent condition and 24in DUBs included with the
> car.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 24in DUBs included with the car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Wheels.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:12 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Forgive my ignorance but what are 24in DUB's?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 9:44 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1863239070481073/
>> 
>> 2008 Mercedes-Benz S-Class
>> $11,000
>> Vehicles 
>> Listed 4 days ago in High Point, NC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>About This Vehicle…
>> 
>> Driven 189,000 miles
>> Automatic transmission
>> Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Grey
>> 
>> 
>>Seller's description…
>> 
>> Well maintained, excellent condition and 24in DUBs included with the car.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 24in DUBs included with the car

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Forgive my ignorance but what are 24in DUB's?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 9:44 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1863239070481073/
>
> 2008 Mercedes-Benz S-Class
> $11,000
> Vehicles 
> Listed 4 days ago in High Point, NC
> 
>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 189,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Grey
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> Well maintained, excellent condition and 24in DUBs included with the car.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT eee say eee yah say uss

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Yeah, from the looks of things it’s going to make landfall north of you.  Good 
deal, glad you missed out.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Passed. Nothing much happened. A bit of rain. No wind here at the vast 
> estate. Sky cleared, beautiful sunset. I guess NC will get whacked as it 
> comes ashore 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We have a couple of high school teams that shoot at my club, and they typically 
start the newbies out on a 20ga so they can build their technique. Some of them 
are very, very good.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
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> 
> Sporting clays would be tough with a bolt action, it's all doubles.Actually 
> I'd like to see somebody try it, or with one of the Henry lever guns.
> Interestingly a 20 or 28ga isn't at a serious disadvantage in sporting clays 
> the way it is in trap. A lot of folks shoot a 20ga.
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, August 3, 2020, 7:32:11 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> On Mon, August 3, 2020 6:42 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U
>> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one
>> guy in my squad had a 28... -Curt
> 
> My brother bought a rather nice 28 double back in the 1980s. I'm trying to
> remember if it was O/U or S-S.
> 
> If only I were seriously good with a shotgun, I'd deal with fools like
> Dan's Beretta snob by outshooting them with my dad's bolt action Mossberg
> .410. But I'm the guy who hits 8 out of 25 with a 12ga pump.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've got one in 16ga.The problem, and the real reason I didn't buy a used gun, 
is that steel shot will pound the choke out of that gun in a season of heavy 
hunting. You could use bismuth shot at only $40 a box, steel is like $16...

-Curt

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 This is what you want :
IIRC, it also takes the 3 ½" shells. I had one in 12 ga. many years ago -
great gun.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/949392477/MARLIN-55-12GA-THE-ORIGINAL-MARLIN-GOOSE-GUN-36-INCH-FULL-CHOKE-EXCELLENT.htm

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> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking
> on my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot
> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I
> didn't even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a
> win. In my defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably
> shouldn't have been shooting.
>
> I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really
> well that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a
> BUNCH of research and finally settled on a Browning Silver.
> https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
> The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool
> semi-humped receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the
> then chief of Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones
> are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee
> here I'll be just over $1000.
> I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive
> gun I've ever bought.
>
> Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Gun fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That sounds like most of the guys I’ve shot with at my club. A lot of them are 
really serious about their shooting but not judgmental about the guy/gal next 
to them and what he/she are shooting. It’s all about the fun.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had a trap range near my house way back, and used to take my scarred, 
> plain-Jane field grade Rem. 870 once in a while. I was never a great 
> shotgunner, but could usually break better than 20 out of 25.
> 
> One day a guy next to me had a nice engraved Browning auto. His score was not 
> good, but his sense of humor was spot on. When we had finished the set he 
> turned to me and said:
> 
> "That's a really nice shotgun you have there!"
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 4:19 PM
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> Cc: Dan Penoff
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun
> 
> I’ve never paid a lot of attention, but it seems that the hard core guys that 
> come out every weekend with their own golf carts and shooting vests and such 
> all use O/Us. I got grouped with a guy at a fundraising shoot last year that 
> was trashing everyone who didn’t have a Beretta. He made fun of my “import 
> gun” even though he had never heard of Lanber (very well known in Europe and 
> Down Under despite being out of business now). As most shooters would do, I 
> offered to let him shoot it, but he refused and started in with the “nothing 
> but a Beretta” crap while everyone rolled their eyes.
> 
> We all shot better than this guy. He was pretty quiet by the time we got to 
> the last stand. It was clear he was a hack, as his stance, pull and other 
> aspects of his form were all out of kilter. One of the other guys in our 
> group offered in a very diplomatic manner to give him some pointers but the 
> guy blew him off.
> 
> My former boss was the guy with the Mossberg and my shooting coach. He’s 
> still shooting well with that gun, and has no desire to buy anything else. 
> The idea that the more expensive a gun is makes you a better shooter will 
> never offset poor technique or fit.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> I've started making adjustments to my Stoeger, I'm consistently overshooting 
>> so I'm starting with a small washer between the recoil pad and the top screw 
>> that holds it. If that helps I'll invest in a pad spacer. I seem to shoot 
>> pretty straight but high and it pounds my cheek a little which is actually a 
>> symptom of the same problem. I'm probably shoving my face into the stock too 
>> much which is whats making it hit me, a little down angle might help. That 
>> at least has a wooden stock which is easier to adjust.
>> 
>> For the hunting gun I also wanted the option of 3.5" shells. Steel is less 
>> dense than lead so you end up using larger shot sizes which decreases pellet 
>> count. I'm not a huge fan of 3.5" shells, they recoil bad but my shooting 
>> buddy has a 3.5" gun so I want us to be able to share ammo in a pinch. 
>> 
>> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U 
>> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one 
>> guy in my squad had a 28...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Monday, August 3, 2020, 6:03:27 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I own and have shot both for clays and grouse. Personally, I prefer a 
>> shotgun that breaks down. I guess an autoloader would be better for hunting 
>> just due to the convenience, which certainly makes sense. If I was just 
>> shooting clays it has no advantage, as you’re not allowed to load more than 
>> two rounds at a stand anyway.
>> 
>> Looks like a nice shotgun. My biggest concern is fitting a new gun. I had a 
>> really nice Beretta but it was a crappy fit and something that would have to 
>> spend some time with a gunsmith to make right. I sold it and got my Lanber, 
>> which I knew from the previous use of one would be a good fit, and it was.
>> 
>> A lot of people don’t realize how much proper fitting matters with a 
>> shotgun. You can have a fantastic gun with a lousy fit and you won’t be able 
>> to hit the side of a barn. Buddy of mine didn’t have a lot of coin for a 
>> gun, but after my urging spent time with my coach finding a good fit. He 
>> ended up with a Mossberg that cost him about $500-$600 and he was busting 
>> clays left and right on his first time out. Coach time was around $100 for 
>> the fitting, and worth every penny.
>> 
>> Pictures or it didn’t happen….
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on 
>>> my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot 
>>> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday 

[MBZ] OT eee say eee yah say uss

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Passed. Nothing much happened. A bit of rain. No wind here at the vast estate. 
Sky cleared, beautiful sunset. I guess NC will get whacked as it comes ashore 

--R
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Sporting clays would be tough with a bolt action, it's all doubles.Actually 
I'd like to see somebody try it, or with one of the Henry lever guns.
Interestingly a 20 or 28ga isn't at a serious disadvantage in sporting clays 
the way it is in trap. A lot of folks shoot a 20ga.
-Curt

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 7:32:11 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, August 3, 2020 6:42 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

>
> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U
> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one
> guy in my squad had a 28... -Curt

My brother bought a rather nice 28 double back in the 1980s. I'm trying to
remember if it was O/U or S-S.

If only I were seriously good with a shotgun, I'd deal with fools like
Dan's Beretta snob by outshooting them with my dad's bolt action Mossberg
.410. But I'm the guy who hits 8 out of 25 with a 12ga pump.

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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Another “Deal from Dan”.

You’re welcome.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Nice, sounds like a great deal!  Stop in at Chucktown?  I'll buy you a cup of 
> coffee and a sandwich!
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Aug 3, 2020 6:54:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
> 
>> The CDI says it got 48.5 MPG over 500 miles today averaging 75-80mph. That 
>> did include a little bid of city driving yesterday.  Do these really get 
>> that good of mileage? It’s about half way between a half and quarter tank. I 
>> will probably go ahead and fill it up in the morning and see what the manual 
>> calculation comes out to.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Dad had a Valmet for awhile. It didn't fit him well but I shot well with it. 
That's the only gun I ever remember him selling.I'm not saying he sold it 
because I shot it well, but...

-Curt

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 7:26:45 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, August 3, 2020 7:18 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>  started in with the "nothing but a Beretta" crap
> while everyone rolled their eyes.

You misspelled that. There's no "B" (or "T") in Perazzi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBDkRd-wJ78

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 There was a Mossberg in the running for this purchase but the long term 
reliability reports on it were poor where the reviews for the Browning included 
several torture tests "I shot 1100 rounds with no cleaning or added 
lubrication" and one "I shot 500+ rounds in the rain". Since this will be a 
field gun I wanted something that can take a licking which is also why I opted 
for a composite stock instead of wood.
My slug gun is a Mossberg 500, 1980s vintage, this purchase allows me to keep 
the slug barrel on that full time and not need to worry about losing scope zero 
changing barrels.
Oh, the other reason for an autoloader, at some point I'd like to go shoot snow 
geese. For that I'll get a 5 shot extension tube (10 shots total). Snow geese 
are such a plague that they have "conservation hunts" which are not to conserve 
snow geese, they're to preserve the habitat that snow geese destroy. The 
purpose of the hunts is to eliminate as many geese as possible so all the 
normal rules about ammunition limits and bag limits are gone.
I want to see the "goose tornado" where the sky blacks out with geese...

-Curt

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 7:19:31 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I’ve never paid a lot of attention, but it seems that the hard core guys that 
come out every weekend with their own golf carts and shooting vests and such 
all use O/Us. I got grouped with a guy at a fundraising shoot last year that 
was trashing everyone who didn’t have a Beretta. He made fun of my “import gun” 
even though he had never heard of Lanber (very well known in Europe and Down 
Under despite being out of business now). As most shooters would do, I offered 
to let him shoot it, but he refused and started in with the “nothing but a 
Beretta” crap while everyone rolled their eyes.

We all shot better than this guy. He was pretty quiet by the time we got to the 
last stand. It was clear he was a hack, as his stance, pull and other aspects 
of his form were all out of kilter. One of the other guys in our group offered 
in a very diplomatic manner to give him some pointers but the guy blew him off.

My former boss was the guy with the Mossberg and my shooting coach. He’s still 
shooting well with that gun, and has no desire to buy anything else. The idea 
that the more expensive a gun is makes you a better shooter will never offset 
poor technique or fit.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I've started making adjustments to my Stoeger, I'm consistently overshooting 
> so I'm starting with a small washer between the recoil pad and the top screw 
> that holds it. If that helps I'll invest in a pad spacer. I seem to shoot 
> pretty straight but high and it pounds my cheek a little which is actually a 
> symptom of the same problem. I'm probably shoving my face into the stock too 
> much which is whats making it hit me, a little down angle might help. That at 
> least has a wooden stock which is easier to adjust.
> 
> For the hunting gun I also wanted the option of 3.5" shells. Steel is less 
> dense than lead so you end up using larger shot sizes which decreases pellet 
> count. I'm not a huge fan of 3.5" shells, they recoil bad but my shooting 
> buddy has a 3.5" gun so I want us to be able to share ammo in a pinch. 
> 
> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U 
> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one guy 
> in my squad had a 28...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, August 3, 2020, 6:03:27 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I own and have shot both for clays and grouse. Personally, I prefer a shotgun 
> that breaks down. I guess an autoloader would be better for hunting just due 
> to the convenience, which certainly makes sense. If I was just shooting clays 
> it has no advantage, as you’re not allowed to load more than two rounds at a 
> stand anyway.
> 
> Looks like a nice shotgun. My biggest concern is fitting a new gun. I had a 
> really nice Beretta but it was a crappy fit and something that would have to 
> spend some time with a gunsmith to make right. I sold it and got my Lanber, 
> which I knew from the previous use of one would be a good fit, and it was.
> 
> A lot of people don’t realize how much proper fitting matters with a shotgun. 
> You can have a fantastic gun with a lousy fit and you won’t be able to hit 
> the side of a barn. Buddy of mine didn’t have a lot of coin for a gun, but 
> after my urging spent time with my coach finding a good fit. He ended up with 
> a Mossberg that cost him about $500-$600 and he was busting clays left and 
> right on his first time out. Coach time was around $100 for the fitting, and 
> worth every penny.
> 
> Pictures or it didn’t happen….
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on 
> > my over and under 

Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Nice, sounds like a great deal!  Stop in at Chucktown?  I'll buy you a cup of 
coffee and a sandwich!

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Aug 3, 2020 6:54:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> The CDI says it got 48.5 MPG over 500 miles today averaging 75-80mph. That 
> did include a little bid of city driving yesterday.  Do these really get that 
> good of mileage? It’s about half way between a half and quarter tank. I will 
> probably go ahead and fill it up in the morning and see what the manual 
> calculation comes out to.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have not really researched it yet but like I mentioned I hope it can be 
cleaned up like the gassers. In any case I was aware of it and knew I would 
have to deal with it. I have it a few hard acceleration runs this evening and 
it actually seems like it lightened up a little. I kind of like the rolling 
coal effect. 

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> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If it makes serious smoke under hard acceleration, the EGR is stuck open.  
> Or at least not closing properly.  Had this issue on the Volvo TD, very 
> serious smoke.  Plated off the EGR on that one, it really only needed the 
> actuator rod cleaned so it closed properly (and all the goop cleaned out from 
> using dino oil in it).
> 
> In your case you will have to fix it, which is probably why the car went for 
> cheap.
> 
> It will run better when it's working -- unlike gasoline cars, max EGR is just 
> above idle and drops as the fuel comes on.  If it doesn't close under 
> acceleration, you don't have enough oxygen for the fuel going in and it 
> smokes badly.  Wide open at idle doesn't have much effect as you aren't 
> putting very much fuel in.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Looks Like Floyd is Going to Get It

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Hah!  Good one ...

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Aug 3, 2020 6:11:40 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> I'm sitting at my desk
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 8/3/20 6:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> I wish people would always state WHERE THEY ARE when commenting on the
>> weather or storms.
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 5:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Oklahoma beach. Any shark attacks there?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 2, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 We just had a shower come thru over here at the beach. Sun is back out
>>> now.
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> On Aug 2, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> We’ve gotten a shower from it already, and will probably get a few
>>> more throughout the day. So much for cutting the grass.
> -D
> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> Some rain which we need, and maybe a bit of wind, I'll be headed to
>>> the beach on my bike tomorrow evening!
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 8/2/20 11:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Tropical storm coming your way, buddy. Enjoy!
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

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On Mon, August 3, 2020 8:36 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> I figured maybe it could be cleaned out like the M112 ones but never
> messed with a 648 before.  I will probably look into sorting it out or
> see if the bypass thing is viable.

OM648?
If this is an early W211 you should be happy with 38 mpg on a long trip,
48 just isn't happening. What is interesting is that MBZ claimed 6.6
seconds 0-60 for that car, which is about 2/3 of a second better than my
M112 4Matic wagon.

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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

If it makes serious smoke under hard acceleration, the EGR is stuck open.  Or 
at least not closing properly.  Had this issue on the Volvo TD, very serious 
smoke.  Plated off the EGR on that one, it really only needed the actuator rod 
cleaned so it closed properly (and all the goop cleaned out from using dino oil 
in it).

In your case you will have to fix it, which is probably why the car went for 
cheap.

It will run better when it's working -- unlike gasoline cars, max EGR is just 
above idle and drops as the fuel comes on.  If it doesn't close under 
acceleration, you don't have enough oxygen for the fuel going in and it smokes 
badly.  Wide open at idle doesn't have much effect as you aren't putting very 
much fuel in.



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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I figured maybe it could be cleaned out like the M112 ones but never messed 
with a 648 before.  I will probably look into sorting it out or see if the 
bypass thing is viable. 


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> On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The CEL is a known issue with the EGR. The EGRs screw up as they age and 
> stop working or get clogged. You can’t disconnect them without it throwing a 
> CEL, which is why it’s doing it. Connect it back up and the car will run like 
> garbage.
> 
> There’s a guy in the UK who sells a little bypass box of some sort that you 
> wire into the EGR harness that fools the car into thinking the EGR is 
> working. That’s the only fix.
> 
> I can’t recall if the CEL happens if the intake manifold “flappers” servo 
> acts up, too. I believe the one on this car may be disconnected or the link 
> missing. As long as the flaps are open you’re good. If they get stuck in the 
> closed position it will run poorly.
> 
> You got a hell of a deal, buddy. And a nice vacation, too.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> When I get home I need to work on the check engine light, and motor mounts. 
>> It does not seem like I has as much power as what I figure it should 
>> although it does fine. When you stomp on it to get on the highway it WILL 
>> roll coal. So maybe I should leave it alone. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Damn! I want it back.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:53 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 The CDI says it got 48.5 MPG over 500 miles today averaging 75-80mph. That 
 did include a little bid of city driving yesterday.  Do these really get 
 that good of mileage? It’s about half way between a half and quarter tank. 
 I will probably go ahead and fill it up in the morning and see what the 
 manual calculation comes out to. 
 
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Gun fun

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I had a trap range near my house way back, and used to take my scarred, 
plain-Jane field grade Rem. 870 once in a while. I was never a great 
shotgunner, but could usually break better than 20 out of 25.

One day a guy next to me had a nice engraved Browning auto. His score was not 
good, but his sense of humor was spot on. When we had finished the set he 
turned to me and said:

 "That's a really nice shotgun you have there!"

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

I’ve never paid a lot of attention, but it seems that the hard core guys that 
come out every weekend with their own golf carts and shooting vests and such 
all use O/Us. I got grouped with a guy at a fundraising shoot last year that 
was trashing everyone who didn’t have a Beretta. He made fun of my “import gun” 
even though he had never heard of Lanber (very well known in Europe and Down 
Under despite being out of business now). As most shooters would do, I offered 
to let him shoot it, but he refused and started in with the “nothing but a 
Beretta” crap while everyone rolled their eyes.

We all shot better than this guy. He was pretty quiet by the time we got to the 
last stand. It was clear he was a hack, as his stance, pull and other aspects 
of his form were all out of kilter. One of the other guys in our group offered 
in a very diplomatic manner to give him some pointers but the guy blew him off.

My former boss was the guy with the Mossberg and my shooting coach. He’s still 
shooting well with that gun, and has no desire to buy anything else. The idea 
that the more expensive a gun is makes you a better shooter will never offset 
poor technique or fit.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I've started making adjustments to my Stoeger, I'm consistently overshooting 
> so I'm starting with a small washer between the recoil pad and the top screw 
> that holds it. If that helps I'll invest in a pad spacer. I seem to shoot 
> pretty straight but high and it pounds my cheek a little which is actually a 
> symptom of the same problem. I'm probably shoving my face into the stock too 
> much which is whats making it hit me, a little down angle might help. That at 
> least has a wooden stock which is easier to adjust.
> 
> For the hunting gun I also wanted the option of 3.5" shells. Steel is less 
> dense than lead so you end up using larger shot sizes which decreases pellet 
> count. I'm not a huge fan of 3.5" shells, they recoil bad but my shooting 
> buddy has a 3.5" gun so I want us to be able to share ammo in a pinch. 
> 
> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U 
> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one guy 
> in my squad had a 28...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, August 3, 2020, 6:03:27 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I own and have shot both for clays and grouse. Personally, I prefer a shotgun 
> that breaks down. I guess an autoloader would be better for hunting just due 
> to the convenience, which certainly makes sense. If I was just shooting clays 
> it has no advantage, as you’re not allowed to load more than two rounds at a 
> stand anyway.
> 
> Looks like a nice shotgun. My biggest concern is fitting a new gun. I had a 
> really nice Beretta but it was a crappy fit and something that would have to 
> spend some time with a gunsmith to make right. I sold it and got my Lanber, 
> which I knew from the previous use of one would be a good fit, and it was.
> 
> A lot of people don’t realize how much proper fitting matters with a shotgun. 
> You can have a fantastic gun with a lousy fit and you won’t be able to hit 
> the side of a barn. Buddy of mine didn’t have a lot of coin for a gun, but 
> after my urging spent time with my coach finding a good fit. He ended up with 
> a Mossberg that cost him about $500-$600 and he was busting clays left and 
> right on his first time out. Coach time was around $100 for the fitting, and 
> worth every penny.
> 
> Pictures or it didn’t happen….
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on 
> > my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot 
> > poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I 
> > didn't even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a 
> > win. In my defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably 
> > shouldn't have been shooting.
> > 
> > I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really 
> > well that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a 
> > BUNCH of research and finally settled on a Browning Silver. 
> > 

[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Gun fun

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have a Browning BPS pump in 12 ga. 3 1/2" magnum. I got stopped once by the 
wildlife cops in BC who had a hard time believing it only would hold 3 standard 
12 ga. shells, but his gauge proved it.

Greg

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Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 4:38 PM
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Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

This is what you want :
IIRC, it also takes the 3 ½" shells. I had one in 12 ga. many years ago -
great gun.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/949392477/MARLIN-55-12GA-THE-ORIGINAL-MARLIN-GOOSE-GUN-36-INCH-FULL-CHOKE-EXCELLENT.htm

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlin_Model_55

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 2:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking
> on my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot
> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I
> didn't even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a
> win. In my defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably
> shouldn't have been shooting.
>
> I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really
> well that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a
> BUNCH of research and finally settled on a Browning Silver.
> https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
> The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool
> semi-humped receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the
> then chief of Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones
> are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee
> here I'll be just over $1000.
> I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive
> gun I've ever bought.
>
> Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Mon, August 3, 2020 7:32 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Heh. Or it could be like the English hand made side by side one of my
> former business partners had that set him back some stupid amount of
> money, like $8k.

Do high born Brits still look down on you if you show up to shoot live
birds with an O/U instead of a SxS? Or these days, are they just happy you
didn't bring a pump or autoloader?

I shouldn't pick on the Brits.
They did, after all, invent the Shooting Brake.
https://www.motor1.com/news/94205/one-off-ferrari-daytona-shooting-brake-heads-to-auction/
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> The CEL is a known issue with the EGR. The EGRs screw up as they age
> and stop working or get clogged. You can’t disconnect them without it
> throwing a CEL, which is why it’s doing it. Connect it back up and the
> car will run like garbage.

So not like the ball-bearing trick on the OM617 I guess.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[OK Don via Mercedes]

This is what you want :
IIRC, it also takes the 3 ½" shells. I had one in 12 ga. many years ago -
great gun.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/949392477/MARLIN-55-12GA-THE-ORIGINAL-MARLIN-GOOSE-GUN-36-INCH-FULL-CHOKE-EXCELLENT.htm

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlin_Model_55

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 2:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking
> on my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot
> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I
> didn't even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a
> win. In my defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably
> shouldn't have been shooting.
>
> I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really
> well that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a
> BUNCH of research and finally settled on a Browning Silver.
> https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
> The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool
> semi-humped receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the
> then chief of Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones
> are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee
> here I'll be just over $1000.
> I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive
> gun I've ever bought.
>
> Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m sort of like Ty, Chevy Chase’s character in Caddyshack. Not that I’m that 
good, but I go shooting to have fun and enjoy myself. I rarely keep score 
unless I’m required to, like in a fundraiser meet or something like that. When 
I do I’m usually around 6-7 out of 10, maybe 8 on a really good day.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, August 3, 2020 6:42 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U
>> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one
>> guy in my squad had a 28... -Curt
> 
> My brother bought a rather nice 28 double back in the 1980s. I'm trying to
> remember if it was O/U or S-S.
> 
> If only I were seriously good with a shotgun, I'd deal with fools like
> Dan's Beretta snob by outshooting them with my dad's bolt action Mossberg
> .410. But I'm the guy who hits 8 out of 25 with a 12ga pump.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Heh. Or it could be like the English hand made side by side one of my former 
business partners had that set him back some stupid amount of money, like $8k. 
I shot grouse with him a couple of seasons and shot the gun myself. It was nice 
and a beautiful firearm, but I did almost as well as he did with a gun that 
cost probably a tenth of what he paid.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, August 3, 2020 7:18 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> started in with the "nothing but a Beretta" crap
>> while everyone rolled their eyes.
> 
> You misspelled that. There's no "B" (or "T") in Perazzi.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBDkRd-wJ78
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Mon, August 3, 2020 6:42 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

>
> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U
> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one
> guy in my squad had a 28... -Curt

My brother bought a rather nice 28 double back in the 1980s. I'm trying to
remember if it was O/U or S-S.

If only I were seriously good with a shotgun, I'd deal with fools like
Dan's Beretta snob by outshooting them with my dad's bolt action Mossberg
.410. But I'm the guy who hits 8 out of 25 with a 12ga pump.

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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The CEL is a known issue with the EGR. The EGRs screw up as they age and stop 
working or get clogged. You can’t disconnect them without it throwing a CEL, 
which is why it’s doing it. Connect it back up and the car will run like 
garbage.

There’s a guy in the UK who sells a little bypass box of some sort that you 
wire into the EGR harness that fools the car into thinking the EGR is working. 
That’s the only fix.

I can’t recall if the CEL happens if the intake manifold “flappers” servo acts 
up, too. I believe the one on this car may be disconnected or the link missing. 
As long as the flaps are open you’re good. If they get stuck in the closed 
position it will run poorly.

You got a hell of a deal, buddy. And a nice vacation, too.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> When I get home I need to work on the check engine light, and motor mounts. 
> It does not seem like I has as much power as what I figure it should although 
> it does fine. When you stomp on it to get on the highway it WILL roll coal. 
> So maybe I should leave it alone. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Damn! I want it back.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:53 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The CDI says it got 48.5 MPG over 500 miles today averaging 75-80mph. That 
>>> did include a little bid of city driving yesterday.  Do these really get 
>>> that good of mileage? It’s about half way between a half and quarter tank. 
>>> I will probably go ahead and fill it up in the morning and see what the 
>>> manual calculation comes out to. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

If it actually ended up being mid to upper 30’s I would be impressed. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
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> 
> That's what I get in my VW Golf, so it may be a small overestimate.  Not 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Mon, August 3, 2020 7:18 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>  started in with the "nothing but a Beretta" crap
> while everyone rolled their eyes.

You misspelled that. There's no "B" (or "T") in Perazzi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBDkRd-wJ78

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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

When I get home I need to work on the check engine light, and motor mounts. It 
does not seem like I has as much power as what I figure it should although it 
does fine. When you stomp on it to get on the highway it WILL roll coal. So 
maybe I should leave it alone. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Damn! I want it back.
> 
> 
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:53 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The CDI says it got 48.5 MPG over 500 miles today averaging 75-80mph. That 
>> did include a little bid of city driving yesterday.  Do these really get 
>> that good of mileage? It’s about half way between a half and quarter tank. I 
>> will probably go ahead and fill it up in the morning and see what the manual 
>> calculation comes out to. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

That's what I get in my VW Golf, so it may be a small overestimate.  Not that I 
would complain if it's real, mind you!
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Re: [MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Damn! I want it back.



-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:53 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The CDI says it got 48.5 MPG over 500 miles today averaging 75-80mph. That 
> did include a little bid of city driving yesterday.  Do these really get that 
> good of mileage? It’s about half way between a half and quarter tank. I will 
> probably go ahead and fill it up in the morning and see what the manual 
> calculation comes out to. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve never paid a lot of attention, but it seems that the hard core guys that 
come out every weekend with their own golf carts and shooting vests and such 
all use O/Us. I got grouped with a guy at a fundraising shoot last year that 
was trashing everyone who didn’t have a Beretta. He made fun of my “import gun” 
even though he had never heard of Lanber (very well known in Europe and Down 
Under despite being out of business now). As most shooters would do, I offered 
to let him shoot it, but he refused and started in with the “nothing but a 
Beretta” crap while everyone rolled their eyes.

We all shot better than this guy. He was pretty quiet by the time we got to the 
last stand. It was clear he was a hack, as his stance, pull and other aspects 
of his form were all out of kilter. One of the other guys in our group offered 
in a very diplomatic manner to give him some pointers but the guy blew him off.

My former boss was the guy with the Mossberg and my shooting coach. He’s still 
shooting well with that gun, and has no desire to buy anything else. The idea 
that the more expensive a gun is makes you a better shooter will never offset 
poor technique or fit.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I've started making adjustments to my Stoeger, I'm consistently overshooting 
> so I'm starting with a small washer between the recoil pad and the top screw 
> that holds it. If that helps I'll invest in a pad spacer. I seem to shoot 
> pretty straight but high and it pounds my cheek a little which is actually a 
> symptom of the same problem. I'm probably shoving my face into the stock too 
> much which is whats making it hit me, a little down angle might help. That at 
> least has a wooden stock which is easier to adjust.
> 
> For the hunting gun I also wanted the option of 3.5" shells. Steel is less 
> dense than lead so you end up using larger shot sizes which decreases pellet 
> count. I'm not a huge fan of 3.5" shells, they recoil bad but my shooting 
> buddy has a 3.5" gun so I want us to be able to share ammo in a pinch. 
> 
> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U 
> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one guy 
> in my squad had a 28...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, August 3, 2020, 6:03:27 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I own and have shot both for clays and grouse. Personally, I prefer a shotgun 
> that breaks down. I guess an autoloader would be better for hunting just due 
> to the convenience, which certainly makes sense. If I was just shooting clays 
> it has no advantage, as you’re not allowed to load more than two rounds at a 
> stand anyway.
> 
> Looks like a nice shotgun. My biggest concern is fitting a new gun. I had a 
> really nice Beretta but it was a crappy fit and something that would have to 
> spend some time with a gunsmith to make right. I sold it and got my Lanber, 
> which I knew from the previous use of one would be a good fit, and it was.
> 
> A lot of people don’t realize how much proper fitting matters with a shotgun. 
> You can have a fantastic gun with a lousy fit and you won’t be able to hit 
> the side of a barn. Buddy of mine didn’t have a lot of coin for a gun, but 
> after my urging spent time with my coach finding a good fit. He ended up with 
> a Mossberg that cost him about $500-$600 and he was busting clays left and 
> right on his first time out. Coach time was around $100 for the fitting, and 
> worth every penny.
> 
> Pictures or it didn’t happen….
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on 
> > my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot 
> > poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I 
> > didn't even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a 
> > win. In my defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably 
> > shouldn't have been shooting.
> > 
> > I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really 
> > well that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a 
> > BUNCH of research and finally settled on a Browning Silver. 
> > https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html 
> > 
> > The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool semi-humped 
> > receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the then chief of 
> > Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> > The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones 
> > are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee 
> > here I'll be just over $1000.
> > I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive 
> > gun I've ever bought.
> > 
> > Hopefully 

[MBZ] 48.5mpg

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The CDI says it got 48.5 MPG over 500 miles today averaging 75-80mph. That did 
include a little bid of city driving yesterday.  Do these really get that good 
of mileage? It’s about half way between a half and quarter tank. I will 
probably go ahead and fill it up in the morning and see what the manual 
calculation comes out to. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've started making adjustments to my Stoeger, I'm consistently overshooting 
so I'm starting with a small washer between the recoil pad and the top screw 
that holds it. If that helps I'll invest in a pad spacer. I seem to shoot 
pretty straight but high and it pounds my cheek a little which is actually a 
symptom of the same problem. I'm probably shoving my face into the stock too 
much which is whats making it hit me, a little down angle might help. That at 
least has a wooden stock which is easier to adjust.
For the hunting gun I also wanted the option of 3.5" shells. Steel is less 
dense than lead so you end up using larger shot sizes which decreases pellet 
count. I'm not a huge fan of 3.5" shells, they recoil bad but my shooting buddy 
has a 3.5" gun so I want us to be able to share ammo in a pinch. 

Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U 
except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one guy 
in my squad had a 28...
-Curt

On Monday, August 3, 2020, 6:03:27 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I own and have shot both for clays and grouse. Personally, I prefer a shotgun 
that breaks down. I guess an autoloader would be better for hunting just due to 
the convenience, which certainly makes sense. If I was just shooting clays it 
has no advantage, as you’re not allowed to load more than two rounds at a stand 
anyway.

Looks like a nice shotgun. My biggest concern is fitting a new gun. I had a 
really nice Beretta but it was a crappy fit and something that would have to 
spend some time with a gunsmith to make right. I sold it and got my Lanber, 
which I knew from the previous use of one would be a good fit, and it was.

A lot of people don’t realize how much proper fitting matters with a shotgun. 
You can have a fantastic gun with a lousy fit and you won’t be able to hit the 
side of a barn. Buddy of mine didn’t have a lot of coin for a gun, but after my 
urging spent time with my coach finding a good fit. He ended up with a Mossberg 
that cost him about $500-$600 and he was busting clays left and right on his 
first time out. Coach time was around $100 for the fitting, and worth every 
penny.

Pictures or it didn’t happen….

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on 
> my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot 
> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I didn't 
> even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a win. In my 
> defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably shouldn't have been 
> shooting.
> 
> I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really well 
> that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a BUNCH of 
> research and finally settled on a Browning Silver. 
> https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
> The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool semi-humped 
> receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the then chief of 
> Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones 
> are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee 
> here I'll be just over $1000.
> I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive gun 
> I've ever bought.
> 
> Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Looks Like Floyd is Going to Get It

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Everyone knows you're always in the eye of the hurricane, no matter where
it tracks.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 6:11 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I'm sitting at my desk
>
> --FT
>
> On 8/3/20 6:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > I wish people would always state WHERE THEY ARE when commenting on the
> > weather or storms.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 5:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Oklahoma beach. Any shark attacks there?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Aug 2, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> We just had a shower come thru over here at the beach. Sun is back out
> >> now.
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Aug 2, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>  We’ve gotten a shower from it already, and will probably get a few
> >> more throughout the day. So much for cutting the grass.
>  -D
> 
> >> On Aug 2, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > Some rain which we need, and maybe a bit of wind, I'll be headed to
> >> the beach on my bike tomorrow evening!
> > --FT
> >
> >> On 8/2/20 11:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Tropical storm coming your way, buddy. Enjoy!
> >>
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Looks Like Floyd is Going to Get It

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I laughed my b*tt off save for the very SAD and IRONIC ending.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 6:04 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Land sharks.
>
> https://youtu.be/p_NS2H55dxI
>
> -D
>
> > On Aug 3, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Oklahoma beach. Any shark attacks there?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 2, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> We just had a shower come thru over here at the beach. Sun is back out
> now.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Aug 2, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> We’ve gotten a shower from it already, and will probably get a few
> more throughout the day. So much for cutting the grass.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> > On Aug 2, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Some rain which we need, and maybe a bit of wind, I'll be headed to
> the beach on my bike tomorrow evening!
> 
>  --FT
> 
> > On 8/2/20 11:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Tropical storm coming your way, buddy. Enjoy!
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Looks Like Floyd is Going to Get It

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'm sitting at my desk

--FT

On 8/3/20 6:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I wish people would always state WHERE THEY ARE when commenting on the
weather or storms.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 5:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Oklahoma beach. Any shark attacks there?

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 2, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

We just had a shower come thru over here at the beach. Sun is back out

now.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 2, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

We’ve gotten a shower from it already, and will probably get a few

more throughout the day. So much for cutting the grass.

-D


On Aug 2, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Some rain which we need, and maybe a bit of wind, I'll be headed to

the beach on my bike tomorrow evening!

--FT


On 8/2/20 11:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Tropical storm coming your way, buddy. Enjoy!

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Looks Like Floyd is Going to Get It

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Land sharks.

https://youtu.be/p_NS2H55dxI

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oklahoma beach. Any shark attacks there?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> We just had a shower come thru over here at the beach. Sun is back out now. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We’ve gotten a shower from it already, and will probably get a few more 
>>> throughout the day. So much for cutting the grass.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Aug 2, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Some rain which we need, and maybe a bit of wind, I'll be headed to the 
 beach on my bike tomorrow evening!
 
 --FT
 
> On 8/2/20 11:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Tropical storm coming your way, buddy. Enjoy!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Looks Like Floyd is Going to Get It

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I wish people would always state WHERE THEY ARE when commenting on the
weather or storms.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 5:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Oklahoma beach. Any shark attacks there?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 2, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > We just had a shower come thru over here at the beach. Sun is back out
> now.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On Aug 2, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> We’ve gotten a shower from it already, and will probably get a few
> more throughout the day. So much for cutting the grass.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
>  On Aug 2, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Some rain which we need, and maybe a bit of wind, I'll be headed to
> the beach on my bike tomorrow evening!
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
>  On 8/2/20 11:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>  Tropical storm coming your way, buddy. Enjoy!
> 
>  -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I own and have shot both for clays and grouse. Personally, I prefer a shotgun 
that breaks down. I guess an autoloader would be better for hunting just due to 
the convenience, which certainly makes sense. If I was just shooting clays it 
has no advantage, as you’re not allowed to load more than two rounds at a stand 
anyway.

Looks like a nice shotgun. My biggest concern is fitting a new gun. I had a 
really nice Beretta but it was a crappy fit and something that would have to 
spend some time with a gunsmith to make right. I sold it and got my Lanber, 
which I knew from the previous use of one would be a good fit, and it was.

A lot of people don’t realize how much proper fitting matters with a shotgun. 
You can have a fantastic gun with a lousy fit and you won’t be able to hit the 
side of a barn. Buddy of mine didn’t have a lot of coin for a gun, but after my 
urging spent time with my coach finding a good fit. He ended up with a Mossberg 
that cost him about $500-$600 and he was busting clays left and right on his 
first time out. Coach time was around $100 for the fitting, and worth every 
penny.

Pictures or it didn’t happen….

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on 
> my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot 
> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I didn't 
> even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a win. In my 
> defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably shouldn't have been 
> shooting.
> 
> I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really well 
> that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a BUNCH of 
> research and finally settled on a Browning Silver. 
> https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
> The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool semi-humped 
> receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the then chief of 
> Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones 
> are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee 
> here I'll be just over $1000.
> I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive gun 
> I've ever bought.
> 
> Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
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Re: [MBZ] Looks Like Floyd is Going to Get It

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Oklahoma beach. Any shark attacks there?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> We just had a shower come thru over here at the beach. Sun is back out now. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
>> We’ve gotten a shower from it already, and will probably get a few more 
>> throughout the day. So much for cutting the grass.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Some rain which we need, and maybe a bit of wind, I'll be headed to the 
>>> beach on my bike tomorrow evening!
>>> 
>>> --FT
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 Tropical storm coming your way, buddy. Enjoy!
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Looks very nice to me, never shot an auto-loader shotgun though.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking
> on my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot
> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I
> didn't even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a
> win. In my defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably
> shouldn't have been shooting.
>
> I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really
> well that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a
> BUNCH of research and finally settled on a Browning Silver.
> https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
> The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool
> semi-humped receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the
> then chief of Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones
> are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee
> here I'll be just over $1000.
> I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive
> gun I've ever bought.
>
> Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Looks Like Floyd is Going to Get It

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

We should get some rain tomorrow- we need it. Hopefully winds won't be too
strong.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 10:11 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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>  Apparently we're going to get a piece of it too. Its kinda good, we're
> way behind on moisture. Should make for good kayaking on the weekend.
> They're saying a couple inches of rain 30-40mph wind...
> -Curt
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, FT, you getting some rain now?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yes it started raining at 11AM or so, nothing too heavy, right now it is 
just raining lightly, no wind.  Looks like it might rain harder a bit 
later but so far just what we need as it has been quite dry here.


I'll probably take a bike down to the beach later to check out the surf

We got the weather station and creek level sensor set up Saturday, I 
just checked it and it's not clear if it is working properly although it 
seemed to be collecting some data and saving it.  It goes to the "cloud" 
via a cellular data cnxn.  In touch with the manufacturer, might do a 
bit of remote troubleshooting later.


--FT

On 8/3/20 3:27 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

I just looked at the weather radar pictures and it looks like you are
getting some rain.

What's it like there on the ground?

Do you and your buddy have your storm sensors deployed?


Craig

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[MBZ] Hey, FT, you getting some rain now?

[Craig via Mercedes]

I just looked at the weather radar pictures and it looks like you are
getting some rain.

What's it like there on the ground?

Do you and your buddy have your storm sensors deployed?


Craig

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[MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on my 
over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot poorly 
enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I didn't even 
bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a win. In my 
defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably shouldn't have been 
shooting.

I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really well 
that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a BUNCH of 
research and finally settled on a Browning Silver. 
https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool semi-humped 
receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the then chief of 
Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones are 
but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee here I'll 
be just over $1000.
I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive gun 
I've ever bought.

Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Ponton Klatta Klatta

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

$500, fit an entirely new drivetrain and suspension then go have fun 
with a cool rat rod


--FT

On 8/3/20 1:01 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Some assembly required it's been on the market for quite some time..

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 9:58 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/222065405719110/

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Re: [MBZ] Ponton Klatta Klatta

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Some assembly required it's been on the market for quite some time..

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[MBZ] Ponton Klatta Klatta

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/222065405719110/

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Re: [MBZ] Looks Like Floyd is Going to Get It

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Had some good rain at 5am that passed through then it just started raining here 
a little while ago. No wind yet. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> We got nothing to speak of. I’m not complaining.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Apparently we're going to get a piece of it too. Its kinda good, we're way 
>> behind on moisture. Should make for good kayaking on the weekend. They're 
>> saying a couple inches of rain 30-40mph wind...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Sunday, August 2, 2020, 11:46:19 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Tropical storm coming your way, buddy. Enjoy!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Looks Like Floyd is Going to Get It

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

We got over an inch of rain yesterday and the TS isn't even here yet.
I'm sure my neighbor's corn is much happier this way, it's trying to grow
ears right now.

Mitch.

On Mon, August 3, 2020 11:26 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> We got nothing to speak of. I'm not complaining.
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Re: [MBZ] Looks Like Floyd is Going to Get It

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We got nothing to speak of. I’m not complaining.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Apparently we're going to get a piece of it too. Its kinda good, we're way 
> behind on moisture. Should make for good kayaking on the weekend. They're 
> saying a couple inches of rain 30-40mph wind...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Sunday, August 2, 2020, 11:46:19 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> 
> Tropical storm coming your way, buddy. Enjoy!
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Re: [MBZ] Looks Like Floyd is Going to Get It

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Apparently we're going to get a piece of it too. Its kinda good, we're way 
behind on moisture. Should make for good kayaking on the weekend. They're 
saying a couple inches of rain 30-40mph wind...
-Curt

On Sunday, August 2, 2020, 11:46:19 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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 Tropical storm coming your way, buddy. Enjoy!

-D

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