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Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes

There are plenty of older non DEF trucks running around here in NC. If the 
situation changes, and only new trucks get to operate on  the roads, there will 
be even more shortages, and a huge amount of truckers will be forced to go out 
of business or raise prices even higher to afford to buy expensive, new trucks.
Kevin in Lexington, NC 

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> On Mar 8, 2022, at 11:05 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> All trucks in California, [and now everywhere] for example, are required to
> pass EPA rules, which means only new production trucks are allowed to be
> licensed. All those use DEF, made from Urea, which is now shut off from
> export from Russia.. If a new DEF truck runs out of DEF Fluid, the magic
> nannie electricals will shut off the truck making it an 80,000 lb brick
> that does not deliver goods to market.
> "For want of a nail, a shoe was lost. For want of a shoe a horse was lost.
> For want of a horse a Knight was lost. For want of a Knight a battle was
> lost. For want of a battle a Kingdom was lost.
> For want of a Kingdom a people were lost."  Thus the phrase "You've been
> nailed".
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:46 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> EPA are considering imposing more stringent emissions standards on trucks
>> so that should help
>> 
>> --FT
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>>> On Mar 8, 2022, at 10:42 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Global problem. We now need russian oil to run american tractors with
>> parts
>>> made in china and we need russian fertilizer and urea [for DEF for the
>>> tractors and trucks]. Thus, USA farmers don't farm as many acres and it
>>> costs far more per production bushel. Then, we need fuel and fertilizer
>>> [and EPA dictated DEF made from urea] to run the trucks to take the wheat
>>> to market. All which cost more, and there is not enough of.
>>> The opportunities for leaders across the globe to make poor decisions is
>>> manifold in the near term.
>>> Being very careful to avoid any political inference, we in USA are
>> setting
>>> on huge energy reserves, natural gas reserves, and labor reserves. The
>> real
>>> shortage appears to be the hard logic reserve required to make best use
>> of
>>> those raw materials to take them to best use and feed ourselves.
>>> Reporter: "Dr. Einstein, what is the difference between genius and
>>> ignorance?"
>>> Dr. Einstein: "There is no shortage of ignorance."
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:24 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 People (especially people on Facebook, why do I go on Facebook?) don't
 seem to understand globally traded commodities and the idea that the
>> price
 of oil in the US is directly affected by the price of oil in Europe.
 
 I don't bet that we import much Russian wheat but if Europe stops
 importing Russian wheat they'll need American wheat to make up for it...
 
 
 -Curt
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 12:50:20 AM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about?
 
 On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from
 Russia
> prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian
>> oil?
> And if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear
> this?  They also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price of
> grain and flour will soon skyrocket?
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[MBZ] 1990 420 SEL - 208k miles - $2,000

2022-03-08 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Judging from photos, I'd say there's an extra zero in the price.

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Re: [MBZ] Craig

2022-03-08 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes

What tragic news! I’ve emailed with Craig both on and off list. He’s a good 
guy. I sure hope he gets through this.
Kevin in Lexington, NC

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> On Mar 7, 2022, at 6:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> I am not sure if this was posted here or not. If it was I did not see it. 
> Anyway, it was posted on the Okie talk list that Craig and Shirley were in 
> the hospital with Covid. For some reason Shirley got moved somewhere else. 
> They did not properly treat her diabetes and sounded like she got moved to a 
> 2nd location but then passed away. Craig is still on the hospital in unknown 
> condition. 
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[MBZ] 1992 400E - 158k miles - $8,500

2022-03-08 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Kind of drab color-wise, but looks clean and taken care of. Price seems rather 
steep?

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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

No problem “we” can do a bailout

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> On Mar 8, 2022, at 3:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On the new car side car makers that have pinned their hopes on trucks and SUV 
> sales will tank hard (Ford).

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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

2022-03-08 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

> It will be interesting to see what effect the recent events have on the used 
> car market.

On the previously owned market light trucks and SUV prices will crash over the 
next eight weeks, and sub compact and hybrid prices will soar. On the new car 
side car makers that have pinned their hopes on trucks and SUV sales will tank 
hard (Ford). Manufacturers of small cars will win the day. Oops.

Oh and old 123 diesels run on garbage vegetable oil and used paint thinner will 
end up as scrap (Mercedes content).


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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback now fuel efficiency

Marshall always contended that with a turbocharged diesel spirited acceleration 
was better for fuel economy since you got into the turbo charger sooner and got 
the efficiency benefit of the turbo sooner.

My TDIs are into the turbo at just above idle so which prevents turbo lag and 
keeps efficiency up but I still like to wind them up...

-Curt


On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 03:16:13 PM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





> The way she drives it would not be ideal to run regular.

Hahaha. She is a binary driver. It's either on or off.
I drive like there's an egg between the throttle, brake pedal, and my foot. 
Binary drivers do not.


Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback now fuel efficiency

I believe the term I have used for her driving technique is “binary throttle 
control”. It applies to braking as well. Ceramic pads are a requirement for any 
car she drives.

I drive like you, mainly because it’s the most efficient, however, if required 
I will certainly stomp on it.

-D

> On Mar 8, 2022, at 3:15 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> The way she drives it would not be ideal to run regular.
> 
> Hahaha. She is a binary driver. It's either on or off.
> I drive like there's an egg between the throttle, brake pedal, and my foot. 
> Binary drivers do not.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback now fuel efficiency

2022-03-08 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

> The way she drives it would not be ideal to run regular.

Hahaha. She is a binary driver. It's either on or off.
I drive like there's an egg between the throttle, brake pedal, and my foot. 
Binary drivers do not.


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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback now fuel efficiency

It’s all moot, as her car was driven less than 1,000 miles last year, and the 
year before maybe 2,500, if that. In the grand scheme of things gas mileage 
really isn’t an issue. I will say it would be nice if they ran on regular 
instead of premium, but that’s a discussion for another time. The way she 
drives it would not be ideal to run regular.

-D

> On Mar 8, 2022, at 2:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My 210 99E320 would turn about 28mpg which is quite acceptable, the 99E300 
> (D) would do 30-32 maybe a bit higher.  The 05E320 4m wagon does about 22mpg. 
>  The 04E500 does about 22mpg as well, and I don't drive it easily and it 
> mostly 50mph or less driving around, which is not bad for a powerful V8, and 
> kinda surprises me.  I don't know what a non-4m E320 wagon would do, I guess 
> it would be higher.  The 05ML500 does 15-17 depending on if I am towing the 
> little trailer or not.  Towing the big trailer it drops to 12 or so.
> 
> I won't even talk about the SL600...
> 
> A CLK is a bit smaller so with a 500 maybe it would get close to 25 in 
> normal-->spirited driving?  I don't know, just a guess, but that wouldn't be 
> too bad considering the performance.  A CLK320 would probably get 30ish 
> maybe, 20% better, which in the scheme of things would not necessarily rule 
> out the 500? Some mileage penalty v. fun factor, and of course initial costs 
> could make the equation a bit closer.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 3/8/22 1:46 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’ve been looking for a W208/209 coupe, ideally a CLK500, for a replacement 
>> for Mrs. Dan’s SL500. I’m wondering if potential buyers that are in or 
>> coming into the market now will be discerning enough to make the distinction 
>> between the 320 and 500 models.
>> 
>> I hope so.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback now fuel efficiency

My 210 99E320 would turn about 28mpg which is quite acceptable, the 
99E300 (D) would do 30-32 maybe a bit higher.  The 05E320 4m wagon does 
about 22mpg.  The 04E500 does about 22mpg as well, and I don't drive it 
easily and it mostly 50mph or less driving around, which is not bad for 
a powerful V8, and kinda surprises me.  I don't know what a non-4m E320 
wagon would do, I guess it would be higher.  The 05ML500 does 15-17 
depending on if I am towing the little trailer or not.  Towing the big 
trailer it drops to 12 or so.


I won't even talk about the SL600...

A CLK is a bit smaller so with a 500 maybe it would get close to 25 in 
normal-->spirited driving?  I don't know, just a guess, but that 
wouldn't be too bad considering the performance.  A CLK320 would 
probably get 30ish maybe, 20% better, which in the scheme of things 
would not necessarily rule out the 500? Some mileage penalty v. fun 
factor, and of course initial costs could make the equation a bit closer.


--FT

On 3/8/22 1:46 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I’ve been looking for a W208/209 coupe, ideally a CLK500, for a replacement for 
Mrs. Dan’s SL500. I’m wondering if potential buyers that are in or coming into 
the market now will be discerning enough to make the distinction between the 
320 and 500 models.

I hope so.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Perfect Car for AZ Bob's Son?

It looks like a really nice car for what it is and the price.

-D

> On Mar 8, 2022, at 1:06 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Polish up those headlights and that would look pretty nice
> 
> --FT
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> 
>> On Mar 8, 2022, at 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Here you go:
>> 
>> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-2003-mercedes-benz-c320/7455024338.html
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

I’ve been looking for a W208/209 coupe, ideally a CLK500, for a replacement for 
Mrs. Dan’s SL500. I’m wondering if potential buyers that are in or coming into 
the market now will be discerning enough to make the distinction between the 
320 and 500 models.

I hope so.

-D

> On Mar 8, 2022, at 1:12 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> The prices of pickup trucks have nosedived pretty quick. I was looking at a 
> 2017 Dodge to replace my 2010 but now I'm thinking I should wait and see if I 
> can get a 2019 for today's 2017 money...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 01:00:49 PM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> It will be interesting to see what effect the recent events have on the used 
> car market. I think the idea of $5/gallon gas (or more) is still not 
> something that people are considering yet, since the situation has been 
> relatively short in duration so far.
> 
> I am still actively looking for a W208/209 as a replacement for Mrs. Dan’s 97 
> SL500, and I’m wondering if I should hold off for a little bit to see if 
> prices are going to start coming down.
> 
> -D
> 
> On Mar 8, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> If fuel prices are a burden, you are supposed to spend $50k on an EV. Or so I 
> hear on the news
> 
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> Well, you know, now that fuel is too expensive to use for pleasure
> purposes, you will be sitting around in your house a lot more and will
> need something to keep you amused, so you might as well spend your money
> on fancy stereos instead of old Mercedes.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

The prices of pickup trucks have nosedived pretty quick. I was looking at a 
2017 Dodge to replace my 2010 but now I'm thinking I should wait and see if I 
can get a 2019 for today's 2017 money...

-Curt


 On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 01:00:49 PM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 

It will be interesting to see what effect the recent events have on the used 
car market. I think the idea of $5/gallon gas (or more) is still not something 
that people are considering yet, since the situation has been relatively short 
in duration so far.

I am still actively looking for a W208/209 as a replacement for Mrs. Dan’s 97 
SL500, and I’m wondering if I should hold off for a little bit to see if prices 
are going to start coming down.

-D

On Mar 8, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

If fuel prices are a burden, you are supposed to spend $50k on an EV. Or so I 
hear on the news

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
Well, you know, now that fuel is too expensive to use for pleasure
purposes, you will be sitting around in your house a lot more and will
need something to keep you amused, so you might as well spend your money
on fancy stereos instead of old Mercedes.

Randy



On 07/03/2022 7:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
Gaack!  Not for $12,000, they’re not. That’s as crazy as the guys who buy the 
little things to hold their precious audio cables up so they don’t touch the 
floor.

Yes, that’s just crazy. Even if it is a class D amp by Bang & Olufsen. I 
suspected that since they integrate with Sonos stuff it would be stupid 
expensive.

-D

On Mar 7, 2022, at 7:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

Says the guy with a super short commute.

With the exception of vacation type trips this is a lame excuse, especially if, 
as a family you've got more than one vehicle. The EV becomes the around town 
car and it's really good for that, immediate cabin heat being one good example. 
You charge it overnight when you aren't using it. With a 220v charger sub 8 
hour charging is the norm.

-Curt

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 12:56:49 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote: 

And, spend a fair amount of your time, waiting to recharge or waiting 
for an opportunity to recharge etc.



On 08/03/2022 11:51 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> If fuel prices are a burden, you are supposed to spend $50k on an EV. Or so I 
> hear on the news
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> Well, you know, now that fuel is too expensive to use for pleasure
>> purposes, you will be sitting around in your house a lot more and will
>> need something to keep you amused, so you might as well spend your money
>> on fancy stereos instead of old Mercedes.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/03/2022 7:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Gaack!  Not for $12,000, they’re not. That’s as crazy as the guys who buy 
>>> the little things to hold their precious audio cables up so they don’t 
>>> touch the floor.
>>>
>>> Yes, that’s just crazy. Even if it is a class D amp by Bang & Olufsen. I 
>>> suspected that since they integrate with Sonos stuff it would be stupid 
>>> expensive.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
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  wrote:

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>>


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Re: [MBZ] Perfect Car for AZ Bob's Son?

Polish up those headlights and that would look pretty nice

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> On Mar 8, 2022, at 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> 
> Here you go:
> 
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-2003-mercedes-benz-c320/7455024338.html
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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

It will be interesting to see what effect the recent events have on the used 
car market. I think the idea of $5/gallon gas (or more) is still not something 
that people are considering yet, since the situation has been relatively short 
in duration so far.

I am still actively looking for a W208/209 as a replacement for Mrs. Dan’s 97 
SL500, and I’m wondering if I should hold off for a little bit to see if prices 
are going to start coming down.

-D

On Mar 8, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

If fuel prices are a burden, you are supposed to spend $50k on an EV. Or so I 
hear on the news

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
Well, you know, now that fuel is too expensive to use for pleasure
purposes, you will be sitting around in your house a lot more and will
need something to keep you amused, so you might as well spend your money
on fancy stereos instead of old Mercedes.

Randy



On 07/03/2022 7:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
Gaack!  Not for $12,000, they’re not. That’s as crazy as the guys who buy the 
little things to hold their precious audio cables up so they don’t touch the 
floor.

Yes, that’s just crazy. Even if it is a class D amp by Bang & Olufsen. I 
suspected that since they integrate with Sonos stuff it would be stupid 
expensive.

-D

On Mar 7, 2022, at 7:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

https://wrensilva.com/?utm_source=facebook_medium=cpc_campaign=eboost-ads-6237745678060-6263442939660_id=617884fd8bfd55fc5e60097c=IwAR3Bkb6iDxslAco3Op9VyIMz0SvemEQE87xD2iuwmlWdodQ8pZcvgGs-qms_aem_AS6OeKaPrO7rvpebNLHrdhd77NqKLJ3mTu2UVr09CR0-Rks1kG9ojS_r6knxVVWIREcZDxmCAlK4gy6SzEtbs-pHBDQs3dgMAEzGozDVQ717Tf0t20T9c7vkptY8JziWt7w



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Re: [MBZ] Perfect Car for AZ Bob's Son?


I would think right now, that a used Prius might be more appropriate.
I don't recall what he is doing for work but Bob may be paying for the 
fuel too.


Randy



On 08/03/2022 11:54 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Here you go:

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-2003-mercedes-benz-c320/7455024338.html

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

And, spend a fair amount of your time, waiting to recharge or waiting
for an opportunity to recharge etc.

On 08/03/2022 11:51 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

If fuel prices are a burden, you are supposed to spend $50k on an EV. Or so I
hear on the news

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Well, you know, now that fuel is too expensive to use for pleasure
purposes, you will be sitting around in your house a lot more and will
need something to keep you amused, so you might as well spend your money
on fancy stereos instead of old Mercedes.

Randy

On 07/03/2022 7:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Gaack! Not for $12,000, they’re not. That’s as crazy as the guys who buy the
little things to hold their precious audio cables up so they don’t touch the
floor.

Yes, that’s just crazy. Even if it is a class D amp by Bang & Olufsen. I
suspected that since they integrate with Sonos stuff it would be stupid expensive.

-D

On Mar 7, 2022, at 7:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
wrote:

https://wrensilva.com/?utm_source=facebook_medium=cpc_campaign=eboost-ads-6237745678060-6263442939660_id=617884fd8bfd55fc5e60097c=IwAR3Bkb6iDxslAco3Op9VyIMz0SvemEQE87xD2iuwmlWdodQ8pZcvgGs-qms_aem_AS6OeKaPrO7rvpebNLHrdhd77NqKLJ3mTu2UVr09CR0-Rks1kG9ojS_r6knxVVWIREcZDxmCAlK4gy6SzEtbs-pHBDQs3dgMAEzGozDVQ717Tf0t20T9c7vkptY8JziWt7w

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Re: [MBZ] Craig


WOW!  Are you watching over your shoulder?

Randy

On 08/03/2022 11:22 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I realize no one gets out alive, but I have had a spate of six retired work 
associates pass in the space of seven days.

AZBob

Sent from my iPad


On Mar 8, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

That is awful. I had noticed that we hadn't heard from him lately.

Anyone heard from Wilton lately?

Randy


On 07/03/2022 5:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I am not sure if this was posted here or not. If it was I did not see it. 
Anyway, it was posted on the Okie talk list that Craig and Shirley were in the 
hospital with Covid. For some reason Shirley got moved somewhere else. They did 
not properly treat her diabetes and sounded like she got moved to a 2nd 
location but then passed away. Craig is still on the hospital in unknown 
condition.






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[MBZ] Perfect Car for AZ Bob's Son?

Here you go:

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-2003-mercedes-benz-c320/7455024338.html

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

2022-03-08 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

If fuel prices are a burden, you are supposed to spend $50k on an EV. Or so I 
hear on the news

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> Well, you know, now that fuel is too expensive to use for pleasure 
> purposes, you will be sitting around in your house a lot more and will 
> need something to keep you amused, so you might as well spend your money 
> on fancy stereos instead of old Mercedes.
>
> Randy
>
>
>
> On 07/03/2022 7:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Gaack!  Not for $12,000, they’re not. That’s as crazy as the guys who buy 
>> the little things to hold their precious audio cables up so they don’t touch 
>> the floor.
>>
>> Yes, that’s just crazy. Even if it is a class D amp by Bang & Olufsen. I 
>> suspected that since they integrate with Sonos stuff it would be stupid 
>> expensive.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 7:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> https://wrensilva.com/?utm_source=facebook_medium=cpc_campaign=eboost-ads-6237745678060-6263442939660_id=617884fd8bfd55fc5e60097c=IwAR3Bkb6iDxslAco3Op9VyIMz0SvemEQE87xD2iuwmlWdodQ8pZcvgGs-qms_aem_AS6OeKaPrO7rvpebNLHrdhd77NqKLJ3mTu2UVr09CR0-Rks1kG9ojS_r6knxVVWIREcZDxmCAlK4gy6SzEtbs-pHBDQs3dgMAEzGozDVQ717Tf0t20T9c7vkptY8JziWt7w
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Craig

2022-03-08 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

I realize no one gets out alive, but I have had a spate of six retired work 
associates pass in the space of seven days.  

AZBob

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 8, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That is awful. I had noticed that we hadn't heard from him lately.
> 
> Anyone heard from Wilton lately?
> 
> Randy
> 
>> On 07/03/2022 5:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I am not sure if this was posted here or not. If it was I did not see it. 
>> Anyway, it was posted on the Okie talk list that Craig and Shirley were in 
>> the hospital with Covid. For some reason Shirley got moved somewhere else. 
>> They did not properly treat her diabetes and sounded like she got moved to a 
>> 2nd location but then passed away. Craig is still on the hospital in unknown 
>> condition.
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

Well, you know, now that fuel is too expensive to use for pleasure 
purposes, you will be sitting around in your house a lot more and will 
need something to keep you amused, so you might as well spend your money 
on fancy stereos instead of old Mercedes.


Randy



On 07/03/2022 7:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Gaack!  Not for $12,000, they’re not. That’s as crazy as the guys who buy the 
little things to hold their precious audio cables up so they don’t touch the 
floor.

Yes, that’s just crazy. Even if it is a class D amp by Bang & Olufsen. I 
suspected that since they integrate with Sonos stuff it would be stupid expensive.

-D


On Mar 7, 2022, at 7:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] Craig


That is awful. I had noticed that we hadn't heard from him lately.

Anyone heard from Wilton lately?

Randy

On 07/03/2022 5:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I am not sure if this was posted here or not. If it was I did not see it. 
Anyway, it was posted on the Okie talk list that Craig and Shirley were in the 
hospital with Covid. For some reason Shirley got moved somewhere else. They did 
not properly treat her diabetes and sounded like she got moved to a 2nd 
location but then passed away. Craig is still on the hospital in unknown 
condition.




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Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

What are you on about? DEF gets made right here in the US of A.

-Curt

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 11:05:51 AM EST, G Mann via Mercedes 
 wrote: 


All trucks in California, [and now everywhere] for example, are required to
pass EPA rules, which means only new production trucks are allowed to be
licensed. All those use DEF, made from Urea, which is now shut off from
export from Russia.. If a new DEF truck runs out of DEF Fluid, the magic
nannie electricals will shut off the truck making it an 80,000 lb brick
that does not deliver goods to market.
"For want of a nail, a shoe was lost. For want of a shoe a horse was lost.
For want of a horse a Knight was lost. For want of a Knight a battle was
lost. For want of a battle a Kingdom was lost.
For want of a Kingdom a people were lost."  Thus the phrase "You've been
nailed".

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:46 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> EPA are considering imposing more stringent emissions standards on trucks
> so that should help
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Mar 8, 2022, at 10:42 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Global problem. We now need russian oil to run american tractors with
> parts
> > made in china and we need russian fertilizer and urea [for DEF for the
> > tractors and trucks]. Thus, USA farmers don't farm as many acres and it
> > costs far more per production bushel. Then, we need fuel and fertilizer
> > [and EPA dictated DEF made from urea] to run the trucks to take the wheat
> > to market. All which cost more, and there is not enough of.
> > The opportunities for leaders across the globe to make poor decisions is
> > manifold in the near term.
> > Being very careful to avoid any political inference, we in USA are
> setting
> > on huge energy reserves, natural gas reserves, and labor reserves. The
> real
> > shortage appears to be the hard logic reserve required to make best use
> of
> > those raw materials to take them to best use and feed ourselves.
> > Reporter: "Dr. Einstein, what is the difference between genius and
> > ignorance?"
> > Dr. Einstein: "There is no shortage of ignorance."
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:24 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> People (especially people on Facebook, why do I go on Facebook?) don't
> >> seem to understand globally traded commodities and the idea that the
> price
> >> of oil in the US is directly affected by the price of oil in Europe.
> >>
> >> I don't bet that we import much Russian wheat but if Europe stops
> >> importing Russian wheat they'll need American wheat to make up for it...
> >>
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 12:50:20 AM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from
> >> Russia
> >>> prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian
> oil?
> >>> And if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear
> >>> this?  They also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price of
> >>> grain and flour will soon skyrocket?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
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> >>
> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >>
> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> >> Wernher
> >> Von Braun
> >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!

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Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Grant, I did a simple search and found multiple suppliers of automotive
bureau.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=commercial+sources+of+automotive+urea=ffab=web

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 11:05 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> All trucks in California, [and now everywhere] for example, are required to
> pass EPA rules, which means only new production trucks are allowed to be
> licensed. All those use DEF, made from Urea, which is now shut off from
> export from Russia.. If a new DEF truck runs out of DEF Fluid, the magic
> nannie electricals will shut off the truck making it an 80,000 lb brick
> that does not deliver goods to market.
> "For want of a nail, a shoe was lost. For want of a shoe a horse was lost.
> For want of a horse a Knight was lost. For want of a Knight a battle was
> lost. For want of a battle a Kingdom was lost.
> For want of a Kingdom a people were lost."  Thus the phrase "You've been
> nailed".
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:46 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > EPA are considering imposing more stringent emissions standards on trucks
> > so that should help
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iFōn
> >
> > > On Mar 8, 2022, at 10:42 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Global problem. We now need russian oil to run american tractors with
> > parts
> > > made in china and we need russian fertilizer and urea [for DEF for the
> > > tractors and trucks]. Thus, USA farmers don't farm as many acres and it
> > > costs far more per production bushel. Then, we need fuel and fertilizer
> > > [and EPA dictated DEF made from urea] to run the trucks to take the
> wheat
> > > to market. All which cost more, and there is not enough of.
> > > The opportunities for leaders across the globe to make poor decisions
> is
> > > manifold in the near term.
> > > Being very careful to avoid any political inference, we in USA are
> > setting
> > > on huge energy reserves, natural gas reserves, and labor reserves. The
> > real
> > > shortage appears to be the hard logic reserve required to make best use
> > of
> > > those raw materials to take them to best use and feed ourselves.
> > > Reporter: "Dr. Einstein, what is the difference between genius and
> > > ignorance?"
> > > Dr. Einstein: "There is no shortage of ignorance."
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:24 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> People (especially people on Facebook, why do I go on Facebook?) don't
> > >> seem to understand globally traded commodities and the idea that the
> > price
> > >> of oil in the US is directly affected by the price of oil in Europe.
> > >>
> > >> I don't bet that we import much Russian wheat but if Europe stops
> > >> importing Russian wheat they'll need American wheat to make up for
> it...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Curt
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 12:50:20 AM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about?
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from
> > >> Russia
> > >>> prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian
> > oil?
> > >>> And if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear
> > >>> this?  They also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price
> of
> > >>> grain and flour will soon skyrocket?
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
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> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> OK Don
> > >>
> > >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> > >>
> > >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> > >> Wernher
> > >> Von Braun
> > >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

All trucks in California, [and now everywhere] for example, are required to
pass EPA rules, which means only new production trucks are allowed to be
licensed. All those use DEF, made from Urea, which is now shut off from
export from Russia.. If a new DEF truck runs out of DEF Fluid, the magic
nannie electricals will shut off the truck making it an 80,000 lb brick
that does not deliver goods to market.
"For want of a nail, a shoe was lost. For want of a shoe a horse was lost.
For want of a horse a Knight was lost. For want of a Knight a battle was
lost. For want of a battle a Kingdom was lost.
For want of a Kingdom a people were lost."  Thus the phrase "You've been
nailed".

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:46 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> EPA are considering imposing more stringent emissions standards on trucks
> so that should help
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Mar 8, 2022, at 10:42 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Global problem. We now need russian oil to run american tractors with
> parts
> > made in china and we need russian fertilizer and urea [for DEF for the
> > tractors and trucks]. Thus, USA farmers don't farm as many acres and it
> > costs far more per production bushel. Then, we need fuel and fertilizer
> > [and EPA dictated DEF made from urea] to run the trucks to take the wheat
> > to market. All which cost more, and there is not enough of.
> > The opportunities for leaders across the globe to make poor decisions is
> > manifold in the near term.
> > Being very careful to avoid any political inference, we in USA are
> setting
> > on huge energy reserves, natural gas reserves, and labor reserves. The
> real
> > shortage appears to be the hard logic reserve required to make best use
> of
> > those raw materials to take them to best use and feed ourselves.
> > Reporter: "Dr. Einstein, what is the difference between genius and
> > ignorance?"
> > Dr. Einstein: "There is no shortage of ignorance."
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:24 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> People (especially people on Facebook, why do I go on Facebook?) don't
> >> seem to understand globally traded commodities and the idea that the
> price
> >> of oil in the US is directly affected by the price of oil in Europe.
> >>
> >> I don't bet that we import much Russian wheat but if Europe stops
> >> importing Russian wheat they'll need American wheat to make up for it...
> >>
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 12:50:20 AM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from
> >> Russia
> >>> prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian
> oil?
> >>> And if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear
> >>> this?  They also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price of
> >>> grain and flour will soon skyrocket?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> ___
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Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

EPA are considering imposing more stringent emissions standards on trucks so 
that should help

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> On Mar 8, 2022, at 10:42 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Global problem. We now need russian oil to run american tractors with parts
> made in china and we need russian fertilizer and urea [for DEF for the
> tractors and trucks]. Thus, USA farmers don't farm as many acres and it
> costs far more per production bushel. Then, we need fuel and fertilizer
> [and EPA dictated DEF made from urea] to run the trucks to take the wheat
> to market. All which cost more, and there is not enough of.
> The opportunities for leaders across the globe to make poor decisions is
> manifold in the near term.
> Being very careful to avoid any political inference, we in USA are setting
> on huge energy reserves, natural gas reserves, and labor reserves. The real
> shortage appears to be the hard logic reserve required to make best use of
> those raw materials to take them to best use and feed ourselves.
> Reporter: "Dr. Einstein, what is the difference between genius and
> ignorance?"
> Dr. Einstein: "There is no shortage of ignorance."
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:24 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> People (especially people on Facebook, why do I go on Facebook?) don't
>> seem to understand globally traded commodities and the idea that the price
>> of oil in the US is directly affected by the price of oil in Europe.
>> 
>> I don't bet that we import much Russian wheat but if Europe stops
>> importing Russian wheat they'll need American wheat to make up for it...
>> 
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 12:50:20 AM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about?
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from
>> Russia
>>> prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian oil?
>>> And if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear
>>> this?  They also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price of
>>> grain and flour will soon skyrocket?
>>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Global problem. We now need russian oil to run american tractors with parts
made in china and we need russian fertilizer and urea [for DEF for the
tractors and trucks]. Thus, USA farmers don't farm as many acres and it
costs far more per production bushel. Then, we need fuel and fertilizer
[and EPA dictated DEF made from urea] to run the trucks to take the wheat
to market. All which cost more, and there is not enough of.
The opportunities for leaders across the globe to make poor decisions is
manifold in the near term.
Being very careful to avoid any political inference, we in USA are setting
on huge energy reserves, natural gas reserves, and labor reserves. The real
shortage appears to be the hard logic reserve required to make best use of
those raw materials to take them to best use and feed ourselves.
Reporter: "Dr. Einstein, what is the difference between genius and
ignorance?"
Dr. Einstein: "There is no shortage of ignorance."

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:24 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> People (especially people on Facebook, why do I go on Facebook?) don't
> seem to understand globally traded commodities and the idea that the price
> of oil in the US is directly affected by the price of oil in Europe.
>
> I don't bet that we import much Russian wheat but if Europe stops
> importing Russian wheat they'll need American wheat to make up for it...
>
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 12:50:20 AM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about?
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from
> Russia
> > prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian oil?
> > And if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear
> > this?  They also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price of
> > grain and flour will soon skyrocket?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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>
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>
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Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

no problems.  price of nickels is up 90%, your nickels are now worth 
10cents, you can pay for gas with nickels that are worth double and that 
will offset the doubling of gas prices


Cmon man we're in the Moral Equivalent of War (MEOW!)!

https://money.yahoo.com/nickel-prices-see-biggest-single-170015615.html

--FT


On 3/7/22 11:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from Russia 
prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian oil? And 
if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear this?  They 
also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price of grain and flour 
will soon skyrocket?

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Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

US oil traders already don't want to buy Russian oil, sanctioning it from our 
side won't effect much here.

Europe is crapping it's collective pants...

-Curt



On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 10:25:50 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Current prices have already discounted cutting off the small amount of
Russian oil that we import. Roughly 3 percent or 209,000 barrels/day.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 12:50 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about?
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from
> Russia
> > prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian oil?
> > And if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear
> > this?  They also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price of
> > grain and flour will soon skyrocket?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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>
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> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Current prices have already discounted cutting off the small amount of
Russian oil that we import. Roughly 3 percent or 209,000 barrels/day.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 12:50 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about?
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from
> Russia
> > prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian oil?
> > And if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear
> > this?  They also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price of
> > grain and flour will soon skyrocket?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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>
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People (especially people on Facebook, why do I go on Facebook?) don't seem to 
understand globally traded commodities and the idea that the price of oil in 
the US is directly affected by the price of oil in Europe.

I don't bet that we import much Russian wheat but if Europe stops importing 
Russian wheat they'll need American wheat to make up for it...

-Curt

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 12:50:20 AM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote: 

Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about?

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from Russia
> prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian oil?
> And if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear
> this?  They also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price of
> grain and flour will soon skyrocket?
>
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[MBZ] It is set up to run on WVO. (300TD) 1984 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $3, 000


Doesn't look too bad

427K on the car, approx 180k+? on the motor.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1394841240960873

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[MBZ] I think there’s a fix in the transmission control plate, but I don’t have the time or care to figure that out. 2007 Mercedes-Benz M-Class ML 500 Sport Utility 4D,$3,500


Then your vehicle is worth $1500 max


   Seller's Description

Starts and runs in 2nd gear… so it’ll drive a max of 25mph or so. The 
transmission is locked in 2nd gear. I was able to reset it a few times 
in the past with my OB2 computer…. But it’s not resetting anymore. I 
think there’s a fix in the transmission control plate, but I don’t have 
the time or care to figure that out. Clean title in hand.



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[MBZ] I used my 20yo watch cam to take these pics 2004 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class CLK 500 Coupe 2D, $4, 300

straight piped v8 sounds beastful... please come prepared to buy due to 
how fast this car is test drives are selective


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Re: [MBZ] I am not sure they get any uglier than this

Escalade don’t clip 

-FT

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Re: [MBZ] And now for the gas shortages