Re: [MBZ] IT HAS DOUBLE PANE BULLETPROOF WINDOWS! - 1995 S420 - $8, 900

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ITS A RARE LONG WHEEL BASE

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> On Jun 25, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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[MBZ] Fwd: An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

well until electricity is 100% wind, solar & water power generated I will
hang on to my fossil fuel MB's. I think right now with >30% electricity
generated by fossil fuels, E cars are fake green. YMMV

On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, 11:58 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---
>
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/an-electric-mercedes-benz-drove-747-miles-without-recharging-nearly-twice-the-range-of-tesla-s-model-s/ar-AAYRnCT
>
> --
> OK Don
>
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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[MBZ] Fwd: An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

well until electricity is 100% wind, solar & water power generated I will
hang on to my fossil fuel MB's. I think right now with >30% electricity
generated by fossil fuels, E cars are fake green. YMMV

On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, 11:58 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---
>
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/an-electric-mercedes-benz-drove-747-miles-without-recharging-nearly-twice-the-range-of-tesla-s-model-s/ar-AAYRnCT
>
> --
> OK Don
>
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] 1991 300E - 102k miles - $6,500

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Looks pretty clean

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/oak-park-91-mercedez-benz-300e/7501279891.html
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Re: [MBZ] Any attempt to scam will be forwarded straight to the office of Indiana Attorney General - 1995 S500 - $7, 500

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Not a bad looking example of a pre-facelift model, despite the lousy photos.

Wouldn’t go into that neighborhood alone, however. Not the best part of town.

-D

> On Jun 25, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> I'm sure he'll jump right on that.
> 
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[MBZ] IT HAS DOUBLE PANE BULLETPROOF WINDOWS! - 1995 S420 - $8, 900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

https://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/cto/d/paw-paw-mercedes-s420beautiful-owner/7501243531.html
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[MBZ] Any attempt to scam will be forwarded straight to the office of Indiana Attorney General - 1995 S500 - $7, 500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I'm sure he'll jump right on that.

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-1995-mercedes-500/7501259976.html

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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

well until electricity is 100% wind, solar & water power generated I will
hang on to my fossil fuel MB's. I think right now with >30% electricity
generated by fossil fuels, E cars are fake green. YMMV

On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, 11:58 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---
>
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/an-electric-mercedes-benz-drove-747-miles-without-recharging-nearly-twice-the-range-of-tesla-s-model-s/ar-AAYRnCT
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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[MBZ] OT - Fun with ADS-B

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Youngest son likes to track flights, so I got him an ADS-B RaspberryPi receiver 
from FlightAware. It came with a little base-loaded magnetic antenna that he 
had stuck up in one of the skylights in his room, which limited the reception 
somewhat.

Just put up a full blown ADS-B “stick” on the roof today and hooked it up. Not 
a major difference in reception, but a lot better range, for sure. We’re 
picking up flights from as far away as 100 miles and a lot more traffic to the 
east and south, where there’s little in the way of topography to block our 
reception.

Fun to see all the traffic going over the house.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

This was one built in 99 and it’s pretty simple. 

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> On Jun 25, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have to admit I'm a bit surprised. I haven't worked with any restaurant 
> equipment since the late 1980s but what I remember of it is that it was *not* 
> sophisticated. Reliability was paramount; no restaurant would be happy about 
> losing a freezer full of food. Therefore things were simple and overbuilt. An 
> extra relay or sensor would just be something that could fail and would not 
> be used if it were not necessary.
> 
> Maybe stuff is more "advanced" now.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 7:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Let it run for a while and both fans are running. The only thing I can 
>> think of as to why the one fan was not running is if you are not 
>> careful the wiring in the area can drop down and get caught in the fan. 
>> Maybe that is what happened. Working on putting the cover back on which 
>> is a bear. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 25, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the freezer running now and the fans reinstalled. That temp switch 
>>> it mounted right on the evaporator so I am assuming once it cools down 
>>> enough then fans will kick on. We shall see. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 25, 2022, at 4:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 As a ladder diagram guy like Jim, I’m in total agreement that both fans 
 have to run at the same time or there is a wiring or connection issue, no 
 question about it.
 
 -D
 
 
>> On Jun 25, 2022, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Yea, I do not take any credit for their schematic. Since the fans are 
> wired together I am not really sure why one would run but the other would 
> not yet both powered up fine with power applied directly.  I am going to 
> reinstall the fans and let the unit run for a while.  I am assuming the 
> evaporator needs to cool down to a certain point to close that switch and 
> power up the fans.  Will see what happens.
> 
>>> On 6/25/2022 4:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>> Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is 
>> drawn in a somewhat non-standard,
>> and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the 
>> compressor outlet
>> is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).
>> 
>> The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something 
>> wrong with the
>> fan, or the wires to them.
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I have to admit I'm a bit surprised. I haven't worked with any restaurant 
equipment since the late 1980s but what I remember of it is that it was *not* 
sophisticated. Reliability was paramount; no restaurant would be happy about 
losing a freezer full of food. Therefore things were simple and overbuilt. An 
extra relay or sensor would just be something that could fail and would not be 
used if it were not necessary.

Maybe stuff is more "advanced" now.



On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 7:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Let it run for a while and both fans are running. The only thing I can 
> think of as to why the one fan was not running is if you are not 
> careful the wiring in the area can drop down and get caught in the fan. 
> Maybe that is what happened. Working on putting the cover back on which 
> is a bear. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 25, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the freezer running now and the fans reinstalled. That temp switch 
>> it mounted right on the evaporator so I am assuming once it cools down 
>> enough then fans will kick on. We shall see. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2022, at 4:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As a ladder diagram guy like Jim, I’m in total agreement that both fans 
>>> have to run at the same time or there is a wiring or connection issue, no 
>>> question about it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
> On Jun 25, 2022, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Yea, I do not take any credit for their schematic. Since the fans are 
 wired together I am not really sure why one would run but the other would 
 not yet both powered up fine with power applied directly.  I am going to 
 reinstall the fans and let the unit run for a while.  I am assuming the 
 evaporator needs to cool down to a certain point to close that switch and 
 power up the fans.  Will see what happens.
 
>> On 6/25/2022 4:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
> Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is drawn 
> in a somewhat non-standard,
> and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the 
> compressor outlet
> is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).
> 
> The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something 
> wrong with the
> fan, or the wires to them.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Let it run for a while and both fans are running. The only thing I can think of 
as to why the one fan was not running is if you are not careful the wiring in 
the area can drop down and get caught in the fan. Maybe that is what happened. 
Working on putting the cover back on which is a bear. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> I have the freezer running now and the fans reinstalled. That temp switch it 
> mounted right on the evaporator so I am assuming once it cools down enough 
> then fans will kick on. We shall see. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2022, at 4:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> As a ladder diagram guy like Jim, I’m in total agreement that both fans 
>> have to run at the same time or there is a wiring or connection issue, no 
>> question about it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
 On Jun 25, 2022, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yea, I do not take any credit for their schematic. Since the fans are 
>>> wired together I am not really sure why one would run but the other would 
>>> not yet both powered up fine with power applied directly.  I am going to 
>>> reinstall the fans and let the unit run for a while.  I am assuming the 
>>> evaporator needs to cool down to a certain point to close that switch and 
>>> power up the fans.  Will see what happens.
>>> 
> On 6/25/2022 4:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
 Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is drawn 
 in a somewhat non-standard,
 and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the 
 compressor outlet
 is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).
 
 The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something 
 wrong with the
 fan, or the wires to them.
 
 -- Jim
 
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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thank you !! Just send the winning lottery numbers so I can fund
development and you win the first one for free. :))
At this moment, my very fertile mind is exploring just how to do it. But,
I've alway loved a challenge and I may have just found one.
Thorium is not a rare element, it is in good supply and in most cases where
it exists is presently being re-buried simply because there is no market
for it.
Yet another reason to use it to generate power for a power hungry world.
Why drag around a 2,000 lb battery with a charge cycle life span that
demands recharging and will leave you stranded when you "could have" a
system that generates its own power. weighs less, and could last a lifetime.


On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 3:25 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Are you taking pre-orders?  Put me on the list.
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 25, 2022, at 3:33 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have another point of view on the future of EV's and available
> > electricity.
> > My view is to design and produce a desk top size Thorium reactor which
> > would be scalable in size to power EV's including heavy haul trucks and
> > construction equipment.
> > A ball of Thorium, correctly managed, the size of a golf ball is capable
> of
> > generating all the electrical energy you would use in your lifetime.
> Thus,
> > power a car, or truck, that not only never had to be "plugged in to
> > recharge" but could be "plugged in" to power your house when not driving.
> > No batteries, no exotic elements in short supply mined by child slave
> > labor.. etc etc etc...
> > Such a "laptop reactor" would instantly resolve all the shortcomings of
> > wind, solar, and battery storage and disposal.
> > I want to become the new Elon Musk worlds richest man.
> >
> >> On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 11:27 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Aside from the pollution caused by making the batteries, I think the
> real
> >> solution is a plug in hybrid with a small Diesel engine. I wonder if
> such a
> >> thing exists anywhere in the world.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jun 25, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It will be interesting to see how the future works when some areas are
> >> already struggling to meet today's electrical demand without rolling
> >> blackouts.
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 11:57 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>  Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---
> 
> 
> >>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/an-electric-mercedes-benz-drove-747-miles-without-recharging-nearly-twice-the-range-of-tesla-s-model-s/ar-AAYRnCT
> 
>  --
>  OK Don
> 
>  "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>  pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
>  “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> >> Wernher
>  Von Braun
>  2013 F150, 18 mpg
>  2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>  1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Are you taking pre-orders?  Put me on the list. 




> On Jun 25, 2022, at 3:33 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have another point of view on the future of EV's and available
> electricity.
> My view is to design and produce a desk top size Thorium reactor which
> would be scalable in size to power EV's including heavy haul trucks and
> construction equipment.
> A ball of Thorium, correctly managed, the size of a golf ball is capable of
> generating all the electrical energy you would use in your lifetime.  Thus,
> power a car, or truck, that not only never had to be "plugged in to
> recharge" but could be "plugged in" to power your house when not driving.
> No batteries, no exotic elements in short supply mined by child slave
> labor.. etc etc etc...
> Such a "laptop reactor" would instantly resolve all the shortcomings of
> wind, solar, and battery storage and disposal.
> I want to become the new Elon Musk worlds richest man.
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 11:27 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Aside from the pollution caused by making the batteries, I think the real
>> solution is a plug in hybrid with a small Diesel engine. I wonder if such a
>> thing exists anywhere in the world.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It will be interesting to see how the future works when some areas are
>> already struggling to meet today's electrical demand without rolling
>> blackouts.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 11:57 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
 Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---
 
 
>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/an-electric-mercedes-benz-drove-747-miles-without-recharging-nearly-twice-the-range-of-tesla-s-model-s/ar-AAYRnCT
 
 --
 OK Don
 
 "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
 pause and reflect." Mark Twain
 
 “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
 Von Braun
 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

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I have the freezer running now and the fans reinstalled. That temp switch it 
mounted right on the evaporator so I am assuming once it cools down enough then 
fans will kick on. We shall see. 

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> On Jun 25, 2022, at 4:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> 
> As a ladder diagram guy like Jim, I’m in total agreement that both fans have 
> to run at the same time or there is a wiring or connection issue, no question 
> about it.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2022, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yea, I do not take any credit for their schematic. Since the fans are wired 
>> together I am not really sure why one would run but the other would not yet 
>> both powered up fine with power applied directly.  I am going to reinstall 
>> the fans and let the unit run for a while.  I am assuming the evaporator 
>> needs to cool down to a certain point to close that switch and power up the 
>> fans.  Will see what happens.
>> 
 On 6/25/2022 4:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>>> Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is drawn 
>>> in a somewhat non-standard,
>>> and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the 
>>> compressor outlet
>>> is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).
>>> 
>>> The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something wrong 
>>> with the
>>> fan, or the wires to them.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

As a ladder diagram guy like Jim, I’m in total agreement that both fans have to 
run at the same time or there is a wiring or connection issue, no question 
about it.

-D


> On Jun 25, 2022, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yea, I do not take any credit for their schematic. Since the fans are wired 
> together I am not really sure why one would run but the other would not yet 
> both powered up fine with power applied directly.  I am going to reinstall 
> the fans and let the unit run for a while.  I am assuming the evaporator 
> needs to cool down to a certain point to close that switch and power up the 
> fans.  Will see what happens.
> 
>> On 6/25/2022 4:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>> Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is drawn in 
>> a somewhat non-standard,
>> and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the compressor 
>> outlet
>> is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).
>> 
>> The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something wrong 
>> with the
>> fan, or the wires to them.
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea, I do not take any credit for their schematic. Since the fans are 
wired together I am not really sure why one would run but the other 
would not yet both powered up fine with power applied directly.  I am 
going to reinstall the fans and let the unit run for a while.  I am 
assuming the evaporator needs to cool down to a certain point to close 
that switch and power up the fans.  Will see what happens.


On 6/25/2022 4:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is drawn in a 
somewhat non-standard,
and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the compressor 
outlet
is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).

The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something wrong 
with the
fan, or the wires to them.

-- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is drawn in a 
somewhat non-standard,
and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the compressor 
outlet
is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).

The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something wrong 
with the
fan, or the wires to them.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

My mistake it has 3 wires a black, white, and brown 

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> On Jun 25, 2022, at 4:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> 
> The new thermostat and evaporator fan arrived and I replaced the thermostat.  
> Compressor kicks on fine.  Before all this is had  one of the 2 evaporator 
> fans not running.  I ordered a replacement but when the unit kicked on, 
> neither one of them were running.  They should run when the 2 door contact 
> switches are closed.  I checked the voltage when my meter and when the door 
> switches are closed its getting around 18 volts.  Nowhere near 115 it should 
> be.  I then went ahead and pulled both fans and both up with power is 
> directly applied.  So, I guess the motors are fine but first I wonder why one 
> of them was not working and why now neither of them are?  Both motors are 
> wired together then wire into the freezer but appears one of the leads runs 
> thru a round 2 pole switch or sensor of some sort mounted up above the right 
> fan near the evaporator. I wonder if it is some sort of temperature switch.  
> In looking at the attached wiring diagram, I am thinking it could be the 
> defrost termination switch.  I wonder if the thing has to cool down a certain 
> amount before the switch closes and powers on the fans?  Or perhaps this 
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[MBZ] commercial freezer

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The new thermostat and evaporator fan arrived and I replaced the 
thermostat.  Compressor kicks on fine.  Before all this is had  one of 
the 2 evaporator fans not running.  I ordered a replacement but when the 
unit kicked on, neither one of them were running.  They should run when 
the 2 door contact switches are closed.  I checked the voltage when my 
meter and when the door switches are closed its getting around 18 
volts.  Nowhere near 115 it should be.  I then went ahead and pulled 
both fans and both up with power is directly applied.  So, I guess the 
motors are fine but first I wonder why one of them was not working and 
why now neither of them are?  Both motors are wired together then wire 
into the freezer but appears one of the leads runs thru a round 2 pole 
switch or sensor of some sort mounted up above the right fan near the 
evaporator. I wonder if it is some sort of temperature switch.  In 
looking at the attached wiring diagram, I am thinking it could be the 
defrost termination switch.  I wonder if the thing has to cool down a 
certain amount before the switch closes and powers on the fans?  Or 
perhaps this switch is bad.  I guess I need to see if i can bypass it 
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[MBZ] 4 speed 240D on BAT

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White/blue with PW and the fancy front dome/reading light.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-mercedes-benz-240d-47/
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[MBZ] Fwd: AUCTION VEHICLE: 1984 Mercedes Benz 230CE

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-- Forwarded message -
From: Frederick Moir 
Date: Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 4:59 PM
Subject: AUCTION VEHICLE: 1984 Mercedes Benz 230CE
To: Frederick Moir 


https://vermont.craigslist.org/ctd/d/essex-junction-auction-vehicle-1984/7500315105.html

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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

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> Is 0.17 Cd possible in a production sedan? That's almost 10% cleaner than the 
> C111-III.

CD is a dimensionless number, and cannot be directly compared among vehicles.
You also need to multiply by frontal area.

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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I have another point of view on the future of EV's and available
electricity.
My view is to design and produce a desk top size Thorium reactor which
would be scalable in size to power EV's including heavy haul trucks and
construction equipment.
A ball of Thorium, correctly managed, the size of a golf ball is capable of
generating all the electrical energy you would use in your lifetime.  Thus,
power a car, or truck, that not only never had to be "plugged in to
recharge" but could be "plugged in" to power your house when not driving.
No batteries, no exotic elements in short supply mined by child slave
labor.. etc etc etc...
Such a "laptop reactor" would instantly resolve all the shortcomings of
wind, solar, and battery storage and disposal.
I want to become the new Elon Musk worlds richest man.

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> Aside from the pollution caused by making the batteries, I think the real
> solution is a plug in hybrid with a small Diesel engine. I wonder if such a
> thing exists anywhere in the world.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 25, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > It will be interesting to see how the future works when some areas are
> already struggling to meet today's electrical demand without rolling
> blackouts.
> >
> >
> >> On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 11:57 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---
> >>
> >>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/an-electric-mercedes-benz-drove-747-miles-without-recharging-nearly-twice-the-range-of-tesla-s-model-s/ar-AAYRnCT
> >>
> >> --
> >> OK Don
> >>
> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >>
> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> >> Von Braun
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> >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

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Grid upgrades in the '60s were easy compared to today. Need a new power plant? 
Buy the land and build it. Today it will take a decade just to get the permits.

On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 3:19 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> We'll need more capacity. A friend is an HVAC guy and says he's got magazine 
> articles from the 60's decrying whole house AC as "impossible for the grid to 
> support".
> 
> Curt
> 
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> 
>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 2:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> It will be interesting to see how the future works when some areas are 
>> already struggling to meet today's electrical demand without rolling 
>> blackouts.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 11:57 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> > Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---
>> >
>> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/an-electric-mercedes-benz-drove-747-miles-without-recharging-nearly-twice-the-range-of-tesla-s-model-s/ar-AAYRnCT
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > OK Don
>> >
>> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> >
>> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
>> > Wernher
>> > Von Braun
>> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

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We'll need more capacity. A friend is an HVAC guy and says he's got magazine 
articles from the 60's decrying whole house AC as "impossible for the grid to 
support".
Curt

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  On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 2:05 PM, Allan Streib via 
Mercedes wrote:   It will be interesting to see how the 
future works when some areas are already struggling to meet today's electrical 
demand without rolling blackouts.


On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 11:57 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/an-electric-mercedes-benz-drove-747-miles-without-recharging-nearly-twice-the-range-of-tesla-s-model-s/ar-AAYRnCT
>
> -- 
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've nudged up to 650 in my Jetta TDI, I've read of people doing 800 but I bet 
it's work...
Curt

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wrote:   On 2022-06-25 11:57, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---

That would not be possible in my 300SD, and very unlikely in my 190D.
And 200m of elevation drop over a 1200km trip is not cheating, 
especially when it's probably upwind.
The battery is 5x the capacity of the 400lb battery found in a Chevy 
Spark, so one has to wonder about the cost and weight.
But over 7 miles per kWh is stellar at any reasonable speed, and doubly 
impressive when you're carrying a ton of batteries.
Is 0.17 Cd possible in a production sedan? That's almost 10% cleaner 
than the C111-III.

https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/a40406500/mercedes-eqxx-ev-beats-record-747-miles/

https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/mercedes-c111-diesel-world-record-holder-25-years

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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

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On 2022-06-25 14:04, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

It will be interesting to see how the future works when some areas are
already struggling to meet today's electrical demand without rolling
blackouts.


If people would charge at home and schedule appropriately, we could keep 
more baseline capacity online.
Unfortunately, the ultimate baseline power source, nukes, have been 
regulated beyond feasibility. Maybe Bob could give us an update on that.


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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

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On 2022-06-25 11:57, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---


That would not be possible in my 300SD, and very unlikely in my 190D.
And 200m of elevation drop over a 1200km trip is not cheating, 
especially when it's probably upwind.
The battery is 5x the capacity of the 400lb battery found in a Chevy 
Spark, so one has to wonder about the cost and weight.
But over 7 miles per kWh is stellar at any reasonable speed, and doubly 
impressive when you're carrying a ton of batteries.
Is 0.17 Cd possible in a production sedan? That's almost 10% cleaner 
than the C111-III.


https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/a40406500/mercedes-eqxx-ev-beats-record-747-miles/

https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/mercedes-c111-diesel-world-record-holder-25-years

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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

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> Aside from the pollution caused by making the batteries, I think the real 
> solution is a plug in hybrid with a small Diesel engine. I wonder if such a 
> thing exists anywhere in the world.

The _real_ solution is an optimized turbine design.  Small, no cooling system,
one moving part.  Single load point.  Ideally, multi-fuel.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

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Aside from the pollution caused by making the batteries, I think the real 
solution is a plug in hybrid with a small Diesel engine. I wonder if such a 
thing exists anywhere in the world. 

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> On Jun 25, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It will be interesting to see how the future works when some areas are 
> already struggling to meet today's electrical demand without rolling 
> blackouts.
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 11:57 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---
>> 
>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/an-electric-mercedes-benz-drove-747-miles-without-recharging-nearly-twice-the-range-of-tesla-s-model-s/ar-AAYRnCT
>> 
>> -- 
>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
>> Wernher
>> Von Braun
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>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] 1979 300D - 188k miles - $4,500

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I has some pretty bad rust in some strange spots. No interior pics. 

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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

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It will be interesting to see how the future works when some areas are already 
struggling to meet today's electrical demand without rolling blackouts.


On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 11:57 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/an-electric-mercedes-benz-drove-747-miles-without-recharging-nearly-twice-the-range-of-tesla-s-model-s/ar-AAYRnCT
>
> -- 
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] 1979 300D - 188k miles - $4,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

It needs a couple parts: brake booster and tie rod end.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/franklin-mercedes/7500925273.html
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[MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/an-electric-mercedes-benz-drove-747-miles-without-recharging-nearly-twice-the-range-of-tesla-s-model-s/ar-AAYRnCT

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OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
Von Braun
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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