Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

FCP Euro is listing only the rebuilt struts. RockAuto has both rebuilt and new.

Here's the Arnott page about them, but I can't say that it's particularly 
enlightening.

https://www.arnottindustries.com/all-struts-shocks/

I guess what they say about the OE cores "they eventually wear out and can no 
longer be rebuilt" makes some sense. They say theirs are "Engineered & 
assembled in the USA"

I compared the specifications, and they look the same except that the rebuilt 
struts list "Adjustable Damping - Yes" and the new ones say No.

FCP Euro lifetime warranties everything, so I'll probably buy the rebuilts from 
them despite the higher price vs. RockAuto. Basically would end up paying about 
$250 more for the lifetime warranty.

Arnott apparently does buy cores but they list the 03-09 E-Class (W211) fronts 
at only $50. Also if the car already has aftermarket struts (not sure yet) they 
would not buy those.


On Wed, May 1, 2024, at 18:58, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> So the professionals are saying rebuilt Arnott rather than “new” as 
> they are made in China. Rebuilts are OE units and completely gone 
> through.
>
> -D
>
>> On May 1, 2024, at 1:16 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> People are telling me that both the rebuilt and “new” Arnotts have the same 
>> warranty (2 years?) If that’s the case, unless the core charge is something 
>> spectacular, it would seem that the new ones would be the best choice. That, 
>> or do the maths on the rebuilt ones with core and shipping charges through 
>> FCP so you get their lifetime warranty. See what Arnott is doing for cores, 
>> that is, are they purchasing cores outright? If so, you could go with new 
>> from FCP and sell off the cores to offset your costs.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2024, at 12:38 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apparently Arnott now sells "new" and "remanufactured" struts.
>>> 
>>> FCP Euro sells the rebuilt struts. Rock Auto has both.
>>> 
>>> The new ones are described as:
>>> 
>>>   This new assembly replaces the O.E. strut and features a new custom
>>>   tuned shock absorber calibrated to provide an outstanding ride and
>>>   performance. The Arnott strut includes a new air bladder from
>>>   ContiTech protected by an aluminum can along with a CNC machined top
>>>   mount made from aircraft quality aluminum. This new air strut comes
>>>   pre-assembled for easy installation and includes Arnott's long
>>>   lasting seals, bump stop, heavy duty crimping rings, and connector
>>>   valve along with a dust boot to protect the strut.
>>> 
>>> The rebuilts are:
>>> 
>>>   This Arnott rebuilt OE Mercedes-Benz air strut features a new
>>>   ContiTech air spring bladder along with a new CNC-machined aluminum
>>>   upper and lower piston.
>>> 
>>> They are only a few dollars different; the rebuilds do have a core charge 
>>> and require returning the old parts.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if the shops you heard from were talking about the "new" Arnott 
>>> struts or their rebuilds?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 1, 2024, at 12:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 I have not, but I’ll ask.
 
 -D
 
> On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
>> They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
>> dropping off.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
>>> 
>>> Rockauto $470 no core charge.
>>> 
>>> That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
>>> Arnotts pretty reliable?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
 them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
 
 --FT
 
 On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner 
> rather than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
> 
> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced 
> if I park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm 
> with the wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the 
> way down. But when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at 
> least leaks down much more slowly.
> 
> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? 
> I just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the 
> problem. I have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water 

Re: [MBZ] OT Porch Problems

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah I’m wondering if Tommy found out the guy was shorting him so squealed on 
him

--FT
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> On May 1, 2024, at 4:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Car dealers can be crooked.
> In other news, water is wet.
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Regime changes on a budget

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4 skinnies and a .50 is all you need to create some mayhem 

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> On May 1, 2024, at 4:13 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s a really nice example of a Hilux. I’ve ridden in my fair share of 
> these in 3rd world countries, and they’re like the VW Beetle of the third 
> world. Nothing pretty, but tough to kill.
> 
> And what pickup truck would you choose if it didn’t have the capability of a 
> machine gun mount in the bed?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 1, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/share/aWCJrx4uzjYycTzN/?mibextid=79PoIi
>> 
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

So the professionals are saying rebuilt Arnott rather than “new” as they are 
made in China. Rebuilts are OE units and completely gone through.

-D

> On May 1, 2024, at 1:16 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> People are telling me that both the rebuilt and “new” Arnotts have the same 
> warranty (2 years?) If that’s the case, unless the core charge is something 
> spectacular, it would seem that the new ones would be the best choice. That, 
> or do the maths on the rebuilt ones with core and shipping charges through 
> FCP so you get their lifetime warranty. See what Arnott is doing for cores, 
> that is, are they purchasing cores outright? If so, you could go with new 
> from FCP and sell off the cores to offset your costs.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 1, 2024, at 12:38 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>> 
>> Apparently Arnott now sells "new" and "remanufactured" struts.
>> 
>> FCP Euro sells the rebuilt struts. Rock Auto has both.
>> 
>> The new ones are described as:
>> 
>>   This new assembly replaces the O.E. strut and features a new custom
>>   tuned shock absorber calibrated to provide an outstanding ride and
>>   performance. The Arnott strut includes a new air bladder from
>>   ContiTech protected by an aluminum can along with a CNC machined top
>>   mount made from aircraft quality aluminum. This new air strut comes
>>   pre-assembled for easy installation and includes Arnott's long
>>   lasting seals, bump stop, heavy duty crimping rings, and connector
>>   valve along with a dust boot to protect the strut.
>> 
>> The rebuilts are:
>> 
>>   This Arnott rebuilt OE Mercedes-Benz air strut features a new
>>   ContiTech air spring bladder along with a new CNC-machined aluminum
>>   upper and lower piston.
>> 
>> They are only a few dollars different; the rebuilds do have a core charge 
>> and require returning the old parts.
>> 
>> I wonder if the shops you heard from were talking about the "new" Arnott 
>> struts or their rebuilds?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 1, 2024, at 12:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I have not, but I’ll ask.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
 
 NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
> They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
> dropping off.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
>> 
>> Rockauto $470 no core charge.
>> 
>> That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
>> Arnotts pretty reliable?
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
>>> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
 Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner 
 rather than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
 
 I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if 
 I park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with 
 the wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way 
 down. But when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least 
 leaks down much more slowly.
 
 Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
 just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. 
 I have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
 
 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

People are telling me that both the rebuilt and “new” Arnotts have the same 
warranty (2 years?) If that’s the case, unless the core charge is something 
spectacular, it would seem that the new ones would be the best choice. That, or 
do the maths on the rebuilt ones with core and shipping charges through FCP so 
you get their lifetime warranty. See what Arnott is doing for cores, that is, 
are they purchasing cores outright? If so, you could go with new from FCP and 
sell off the cores to offset your costs.

-D

> On May 1, 2024, at 12:38 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> Apparently Arnott now sells "new" and "remanufactured" struts.
> 
> FCP Euro sells the rebuilt struts. Rock Auto has both.
> 
> The new ones are described as:
> 
>This new assembly replaces the O.E. strut and features a new custom
>tuned shock absorber calibrated to provide an outstanding ride and
>performance. The Arnott strut includes a new air bladder from
>ContiTech protected by an aluminum can along with a CNC machined top
>mount made from aircraft quality aluminum. This new air strut comes
>pre-assembled for easy installation and includes Arnott's long
>lasting seals, bump stop, heavy duty crimping rings, and connector
>valve along with a dust boot to protect the strut.
> 
> The rebuilts are:
> 
>This Arnott rebuilt OE Mercedes-Benz air strut features a new
>ContiTech air spring bladder along with a new CNC-machined aluminum
>upper and lower piston.
> 
> They are only a few dollars different; the rebuilds do have a core charge and 
> require returning the old parts.
> 
> I wonder if the shops you heard from were talking about the "new" Arnott 
> struts or their rebuilds?
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 1, 2024, at 12:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have not, but I’ll ask.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>>> 
>>> NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
 They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
 dropping off.
 
 -D
 
> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
> 
> Rockauto $470 no core charge.
> 
> That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
> Arnotts pretty reliable?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
>> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner 
>>> rather than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
>>> 
>>> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if 
>>> I park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with 
>>> the wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way 
>>> down. But when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least 
>>> leaks down much more slowly.
>>> 
>>> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
>>> just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I 
>>> have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
>>> 
>>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Regime changes on a budget

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

That’s a really nice example of a Hilux. I’ve ridden in my fair share of these 
in 3rd world countries, and they’re like the VW Beetle of the third world. 
Nothing pretty, but tough to kill.

And what pickup truck would you choose if it didn’t have the capability of a 
machine gun mount in the bed?

-D

> On May 1, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/share/aWCJrx4uzjYycTzN/?mibextid=79PoIi
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Porch Problems

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Car dealers can be crooked.
In other news, water is wet.

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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I will ask. I suspect it was the rebuilt ones.

-D

> On May 1, 2024, at 12:38 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> Apparently Arnott now sells "new" and "remanufactured" struts.
> 
> FCP Euro sells the rebuilt struts. Rock Auto has both.
> 
> The new ones are described as:
> 
>This new assembly replaces the O.E. strut and features a new custom
>tuned shock absorber calibrated to provide an outstanding ride and
>performance. The Arnott strut includes a new air bladder from
>ContiTech protected by an aluminum can along with a CNC machined top
>mount made from aircraft quality aluminum. This new air strut comes
>pre-assembled for easy installation and includes Arnott's long
>lasting seals, bump stop, heavy duty crimping rings, and connector
>valve along with a dust boot to protect the strut.
> 
> The rebuilts are:
> 
>This Arnott rebuilt OE Mercedes-Benz air strut features a new
>ContiTech air spring bladder along with a new CNC-machined aluminum
>upper and lower piston.
> 
> They are only a few dollars different; the rebuilds do have a core charge and 
> require returning the old parts.
> 
> I wonder if the shops you heard from were talking about the "new" Arnott 
> struts or their rebuilds?
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 1, 2024, at 12:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have not, but I’ll ask.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>>> 
>>> NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
 They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
 dropping off.
 
 -D
 
> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
> 
> Rockauto $470 no core charge.
> 
> That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
> Arnotts pretty reliable?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
>> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner 
>>> rather than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
>>> 
>>> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if 
>>> I park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with 
>>> the wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way 
>>> down. But when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least 
>>> leaks down much more slowly.
>>> 
>>> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
>>> just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I 
>>> have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
>>> 
>>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Apparently Arnott now sells "new" and "remanufactured" struts.

FCP Euro sells the rebuilt struts. Rock Auto has both.

The new ones are described as:

This new assembly replaces the O.E. strut and features a new custom
tuned shock absorber calibrated to provide an outstanding ride and
performance. The Arnott strut includes a new air bladder from
ContiTech protected by an aluminum can along with a CNC machined top
mount made from aircraft quality aluminum. This new air strut comes
pre-assembled for easy installation and includes Arnott's long
lasting seals, bump stop, heavy duty crimping rings, and connector
valve along with a dust boot to protect the strut.

The rebuilts are:

This Arnott rebuilt OE Mercedes-Benz air strut features a new
ContiTech air spring bladder along with a new CNC-machined aluminum
upper and lower piston.

They are only a few dollars different; the rebuilds do have a core charge and 
require returning the old parts.

I wonder if the shops you heard from were talking about the "new" Arnott struts 
or their rebuilds?



On Wed, May 1, 2024, at 12:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> I have not, but I’ll ask.
>
> -D
>
>> On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>> 
>> NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
>>> They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
>>> dropping off.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
 
 Rockauto $470 no core charge.
 
 That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
 Arnotts pretty reliable?
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner 
>> rather than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
>> 
>> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if I 
>> park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with the 
>> wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way down. 
>> But when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least leaks 
>> down much more slowly.
>> 
>> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
>> just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I 
>> have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

RockAuto also has these by "FCS" for $365.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=11387517=1426429=7556=1387

I probably sound like I'm cheaping out, and if it were a newer car I'd not 
hesitate to just put new Bilsteins in it but the car is 20 years old. I'm 
taking more of a "keep it on the road" approach with it. Yet I want to get 
something that's not going to blow out in 18 months and especially not leave me 
on the side of the road needing a tow.

I should probably try to see what brand it has on it now, whether they are the 
factory originals or have already been replaced.

Allan


On Wed, May 1, 2024, at 12:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> I have not, but I’ll ask.
>
> -D
>
>> On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>> 
>> NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
>>> They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
>>> dropping off.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
 
 Rockauto $470 no core charge.
 
 That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
 Arnotts pretty reliable?
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner 
>> rather than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
>> 
>> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if I 
>> park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with the 
>> wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way down. 
>> But when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least leaks 
>> down much more slowly.
>> 
>> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
>> just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I 
>> have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
>> 
>> Allan
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[MBZ] OT Regime changes on a budget

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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

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I have not, but I’ll ask.

-D

> On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
>> They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
>> dropping off.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
>>> 
>>> Rockauto $470 no core charge.
>>> 
>>> That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
>>> Arnotts pretty reliable?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
 them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
 
 --FT
 
 On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner rather 
> than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
> 
> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if I 
> park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with the 
> wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way down. But 
> when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least leaks down 
> much more slowly.
> 
> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
> just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I 
> have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Straight 6 gas motor 1964 Unimog Troop Carrier for Sale, $11, 500

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Is that an M110 engine? The thing probably has a top speed of about 45mph. 
Seems to be missing the interior engine cover, otherwise looks pretty original.


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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/386807733819084
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[MBZ] Straight 6 gas motor 1964 Unimog Troop Carrier for Sale, $11, 500

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/386807733819084

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[MBZ] Limpio,$2,500

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Mercedes Benz C230

Pintura no limpio

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1402997237252856

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[MBZ] Could be a good deal -- 2006 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 500 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $2, 200

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Offer $1500, put on the new bags in his driveway, head home

Car runs great but it needs rear airbags which I have,windshield,and it 
has a small exhaust leak. Heat and Ac works,clean interior. $2200 or 
best offer.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1131977854709467

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[MBZ] has oil leak and misfires really bad 2008 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 350 Sedan 4D, $1, 300

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Bad news bro.  One mismatched wheel.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/240603995778844

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Re: [MBZ] 2003 ML500 - 74k miles - $10,800

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Unrealistic price.  Maybe $6k on a good day...

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> Look clean, bland colors, aftermarket radio.
>
> No tow hitch, but I guess at least you know that it hasn't been abused
> towing.
>
> Ambitious price.
>
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[MBZ] I Think the Odo Has Been Broke for 40 years

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The interior belies the mileage I'd say.

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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?


On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
> They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
> dropping off.
>
> -D
>
>> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
>> 
>> Rockauto $470 no core charge.
>> 
>> That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
>> Arnotts pretty reliable?
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
>>> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
 Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner rather 
 than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
 
 I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if I 
 park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with the 
 wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way down. But 
 when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least leaks down 
 much more slowly.
 
 Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
 just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I 
 have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
 
 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] This looks incredibly weird -- 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SL - $22, 500 (Palm Coast)

[G Mann via Mercedes]

My best guess is that somewhere in Europe there is a car bone yard with a
set that is decent or could be refurbed to decent.. "If money is no object,
anything is possible"... :))
The ask on this car is out of my lunch money limit, so I can only lust for
it.. If you buy it, take me for a ride... [even with the ugly bumpers, haha]

On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 8:27 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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>
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> > On Apr 30, 2024, at 7:13 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
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> > Throw a set of Euro style bumpers on it and I could love it for life.
> > It presents well in the Pics [except for those bone ugly bumpers].
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 12:10 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >> Those park benches really do it no good aesthetically
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://daytona.craigslist.org/cto/d/palm-coast-1974-mercedes-benz-450sl/7742114036.html
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