[MBZ] OT: Airport

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

That is _not_ new!  Two players, only four score reels.  Fairly simple 
playfield,
and is that shorter than usual?  Hard to tell from that perspective.

A machine like that, non-electronic, can be kept going indefinitely.
The 240D of pinball?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Small Air Compressors

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've got a 20something gallon HF compressor, had it 5 or 6 years now. Super 
handy but also super loud. Not a problem in my situation but I see now they've 
got much quieter options. Mine might go live on the great northern estate and 
get a quiet one for here.
The only complaint I have is that it's hard to start in the cold. It doesn't 
have a proper unload valve to isolate the compressor from the tank at startup. 
A relatively minor complaint though.
Curt

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  On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 1:13 PM, Bob Rentfro via 
Mercedes wrote:   This Fortress brand HF sells…anyone 
have one? Specifically, I’m looking at a 6 gallon ultra quiet pancake one to 
use for airing bicycle tires, hand truck tires, blowing schmutz off of stuff 
(again, specifically, I’m going to be servicing the 30 Concept 2 rowers at our 
CrossFit gym).  The other one that caught my eye is a comparable Husky 
compressor sold at Home Despot. 
Do we know if one is any better than the other? 

AZBob

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[MBZ] Friend of a friend selling this -- 1996 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 320 Roadster 2D, $10, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Appears to have no hardtop.  New hydraulics a plus, looks nice.  I'm 
thinking the ask is like 2X too high for a 320


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Airport

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

It’s new to me!

About as analog as you can get. I love it. Any “EM” or electromachanical game 
is a 240D, maybe even 220D, of the type. 
Airport is a great two-player 
machine from 1969.

Gottlieb produced mainly single and two-player games, often referred to as 
“wedgeheads” due to the unique shape of the back box. Also consider that more 
players = more $$$ for the operator, so some would argue that they weren’t as 
popular, but the numbers don’t really reflect that. Remember that at the time 
these were revenue-generating equipment, rarely found in someoen’s home, so the 
impetus is on attracting players and making money.

I also have a Gottlieb “Jack in the 
Box” (1973) which is a 
four-player game. It’s in the queue for refreshing shortly.

But - my pride and joy as well as a major bucket list game I recently acquired 
is Bally’s “Fireball” 
(1972.) So popular that there were multiple “remakes” as well as a home 
version! It has the infamous “zipper flippers” as well as multiball play (very 
uncommon at the time) and the “spinning disc” feature which can make you crazy. 
I can recall setting these up when new as well as servicing them on location 
when I was a teenager.

As mentioned previously, I’m moving my interests from cars back to pinball 
machines (I’ve had numerous games over the years) as they’re less expensive 
(EMs that is, not the modern electronic stuff) and I don’t have to do a lot of 
physical stuff to work on them. Also, everyone in the family can and does enjoy 
them, so it’s even better…

-D

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That is _not_ new!  Two players, only four score reels.  Fairly simple 
playfield,
and is that shorter than usual?  Hard to tell from that perspective.

A machine like that, non-electronic, can be kept going indefinitely.
The 240D of pinball?

-- Jim


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[MBZ] hmmmmm -- 1992 Mercedes-Benz 400 e Sedan 4D,FREE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I wonder what the story is on this

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/988199239556780/

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Re: [MBZ] Friend of a friend selling this -- 1996 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 320 Roadster 2D, $10, 000

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Agree.

-D

> On Jun 2, 2024, at 8:20 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> Appears to have no hardtop.  New hydraulics a plus, looks nice.  I'm thinking 
> the ask is like 2X too high for a 320
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/780959420474918
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Re: [MBZ] hmmmmm -- 1992 Mercedes-Benz 400 e Sedan 4D,FREE

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You snooze, you lose.

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> I wonder what the story is on this
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/988199239556780/
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Re: [MBZ] Friend of a friend selling this -- 1996 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 320 Roadster 2D, $10, 000

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Red car premium.  More like $7995.

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 11:27 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Agree.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jun 2, 2024, at 8:20 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Appears to have no hardtop.  New hydraulics a plus, looks nice.  I'm
> thinking the ask is like 2X too high for a 320
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/780959420474918
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Re: [MBZ] hmmmmm -- 1992 Mercedes-Benz 400 e Sedan 4D,FREE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

"Considering offers over $1 000"

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On 6/2/24 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

You snooze, you lose.

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 11:24 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I wonder what the story is on this

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/988199239556780/

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[MBZ] 2006 C55 AMG - $4,900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Price seems ambitious given the miles and stated issues. Might be fair for a 
rust-free southern car with lower miles.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/schaumburg-2006-mercedes-benz-c55-amg/7752981942.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Airport

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

I remember Fireball, but thought it was a lot newer than 1972.
A quick image search got me pics of one with mechanical scoreboard and 
one that said "Fireball Classic" with LED scoreboard.

I'm pretty sure the one I played was the latter.
IIRC, it actually said "Fireball!" out loud when you entered 3 ball 
mode, and I don't think 1972 machines talked.


Mitch.


On 2024-06-02 11:22, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

But - my pride and joy as well as a major bucket list game I recently 
acquired is Bally’s 
“Fireball” (1972.) 
So popular that there were multiple “remakes” as well as a home 
version! It has the infamous “zipper flippers” as well as multiball 
play (very uncommon at the time) and the “spinning disc” feature which 
can make you crazy. I can recall setting these up when new as well as 
servicing them on location when I was a teenager.


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Re: [MBZ] hmmmmm -- 1992 Mercedes-Benz 400 e Sedan 4D,FREE

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Will you pursue?

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 12:20 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> "Considering offers over $1 000"
>
> --FT
>
> On 6/2/24 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > You snooze, you lose.
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 11:24 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > I wonder what the story is on this
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/988199239556780/
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Re: [MBZ] 2006 C55 AMG - $4,900

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's not a bad price for a 55 if it has no rust, the issues aren't 
fatal but would suggest knocking $1k off.  I bet that thing goes like 
hell and is bigly entertaining.


--FT

On 6/2/24 2:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Price seems ambitious given the miles and stated issues. Might be fair for a 
rust-free southern car with lower miles.

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Re: [MBZ] 2006 C55 AMG - $4,900

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Might be a fair price if it were a CDI/Bluetec diesel.

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 2:51 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> That's not a bad price for a 55 if it has no rust, the issues aren't
> fatal but would suggest knocking $1k off.  I bet that thing goes like
> hell and is bigly entertaining.
>
> --FT
>
> On 6/2/24 2:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> > Price seems ambitious given the miles and stated issues. Might be fair
> for a rust-free southern car with lower miles.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] hmmmmm -- 1992 Mercedes-Benz 400 e Sedan 4D,FREE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

He said it was well cared for by previous owner and he daily drives it 
so it sounds legit.  Tempting... not like I need another one but for 
cheepcheep...


--FT

On 6/2/24 2:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Will you pursue?

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 12:20 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


"Considering offers over $1 000"

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On 6/2/24 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> You snooze, you lose.
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 11:24 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
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>     I wonder what the story is on this
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/988199239556780/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Airport

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> IIRC, it actually said "Fireball!" out loud when you entered 3 ball mode, and 
> I don't think 1972 machines talked.

They did not.  In 1972 voice output could ONLY have come from a tape loop or 
the like.
Fireball was apparently popular enough that they re-issued it, at least once.  
These
re-issues would have been built with then-current tech.

Just like Dragon's Lair was built with a random-access videodisc player inside.
Computers of the day could not generate animation-quality video in real time.
If it were to be re-issued now it'd just generate the video directly through a 
PC
with video card.  Probably not even a very high-end one.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Please don’t offer me trash ,Please 1996 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 500 Sedan 4D,FREE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Trade/ exchange for Lexus LS ES IS Toyota Avalon , Camry, Tacoma Ford 
BMW 34/39 Mercedes Sprinter Mercedes 210 Mercedes 211 VW Toureg Tiguan 
Boat Motorcycle Or commercial offers Or rent a shop


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[MBZ] Inside the drives sweat need a stitch 2001 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 55 AMG Sport Utility 4D, $3, 995

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Could be fun for $2k. Or not.

Mechanically there are three lights on. The bas/eps, ets and l light are 
on. I’m told a few sensors need to be replaced. Don’t know for 100%.


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[MBZ] Body has no rust with original maple yellow.

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

 1975 Mercedes-Benz

$12,000

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[MBZ] Buy my slammed turd -- 2012 Mercedes-Benz cls-class CLS 550 4MATIC Coupe 4D, $10, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

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[MBZ] It needs to run on 92 or higher non ethanol gas. 1991 Mercedes-Benz SL 500 - $7, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It looks nice

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/efland-1991-mercedes-benz-sl-500/7753163090.html

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[MBZ] 29700 miles. 1998 Mercedes Benz SL500 Convertible - $19, 000 (Bluffton)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It's very beige.  And tan,  And brown.  Not my preference but it somehow 
works.


https://hiltonhead.craigslist.org/cto/d/bluffton-1998-mercedes-benz-sl500/7753155932.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Airport

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

As an aside to Jim’s comments, many, many years ago when I was buying and 
selling games I had a rifle shooting game themed as a duck hunter. These 
different duck targets would move across the background and you shot at them. 
Coming to Jim's comments, this game actually had a “soundtrack” in the sense 
that there was an 8-track tape player with a very short tape in it that played 
different sounds or sayings at the appropriate times. For instance, if you hit 
the flying goose that was projected moving across the top of the “field” it 
would trigger the player to move the head to a particular track and then play 
for 3-5 seconds - “Oooh, you got me!!”

There was a lot of really cool analog stuff around like this. I was always 
intrigued by it.

-D

> On Jun 2, 2024, at 12:01 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> IIRC, it actually said "Fireball!" out loud when you entered 3 ball mode, 
>> and I don't think 1972 machines talked.
> 
> They did not.  In 1972 voice output could ONLY have come from a tape loop or 
> the like.
> Fireball was apparently popular enough that they re-issued it, at least once. 
>  These
> re-issues would have been built with then-current tech.
> 
> Just like Dragon's Lair was built with a random-access videodisc player 
> inside.
> Computers of the day could not generate animation-quality video in real time.
> If it were to be re-issued now it'd just generate the video directly through 
> a PC
> with video card.  Probably not even a very high-end one.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Airport

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 22:41:57 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
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> Coming to Jim's comments, this game actually had a “soundtrack” in the
> sense that there was an 8-track tape player with a very short tape in
> it that played different sounds or sayings at the appropriate times.

When I was an undergrad at Caltech, we had in the fall an activity called
the Interhouse Dance, which, contrary to its name, had very little
dancing. Each of the seven student Houses would build a more-or-less
elaborate carnival display through which the vistors would travel.

My freshman year ('67) my student House (Blacker) had the theme of Snow
White and the Seven Dwarfs and was especially elaborate. It included a
paper mache mountain 25' high over an area of perhaps 1800 ft^2 held up
by telephone poles and many 2x4s, complete with a flooded courtyard with
small bridges and paths through the insides of the mountain which had
several stops, not unlike Disneyland.

One of the "exhibits" I helped with was a wishing well into which people
would toss coins (or small rocks  :-) ). Down the well and out of sight
was a small piece of thin plywood which was connected to a microswitch
such that when the plywood was hit it would actuate the microswitch
before the coin fell off.

This was connected to some relays and a stereo tape recorder playing a
tape loop. One channel of the tape loop was a splash sound and the other
were two tone bursts:

- One just before the splash sound of a pitch interpreted by
  some electronics and relay to connect a loudspeaker to the
  tape recorder's amplifier, and,

- The other after the splash sound of a pitch to disconnect
  the loudspeaker.

So, when someone tossed in a coin, one would later hear a splash. The
time delay between tossing the coin and hearing the sound, of course,
would depend upon exactly where in its looping the tape loop was when
the microswitch was actuated.

Showing the audience, when we took the display apart late that the night,
we found someone had computed the mean and standard deviation and written
them on the sign.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Airport

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Showing the audience, when we took the display apart late that the night,
> we found someone had computed the mean and standard deviation and written
> them on the sign.

Reminds me of when I was fresh out of school.  A buddy of mine and I had 
apartments
at a place that had a fair number of young singles, and we were in the sauna 
talking.
Not about work, just general conversation.  A cute girl and her friend came in 
and sat
down during our conversation.  One turns to the other rolls her eyes, and says 
"Engineers"
in a rather dismissive tone.

I don't think that these Rhodes scholars had yet figured out that Engineers are
actually decent catches.  Probably just as well!  But, our tender wittle 
feewings
were hurt, nonetheless.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] It needs to run on 92 or higher non ethanol gas. 1991 Mercedes-Benz SL 500 - $7, 000

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Wonder why the seller included that info in the listing.

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 5:09 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> It looks nice
>
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Re: [MBZ] 29700 miles. 1998 Mercedes Benz SL500 Convertible - $19, 000 (Bluffton)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Mocha frappe.

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 5:12 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> It's very beige.  And tan,  And brown.  Not my preference but it somehow
> works.
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[MBZ] clean title in hand absolutely probably - 1985 300D - $13, 700

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Lots o' fresh Armor-All in those photos.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/lincolnshire-1985-mercedes-benz-300d/7753142052.html
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[MBZ] E 320 Cabriolet - 87k miles - $19,800

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I wouldn't pay that price but looks nice, pretty color. Maybe driver's side 
headlight is cracked?

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Re: [MBZ] E 320 Cabriolet - 87k miles - $19,800

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Forgot the link

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/fishers-mercedes-benz-class-320/7753129810.html


On Sun, Jun 2, 2024, at 23:44, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> I wouldn't pay that price but looks nice, pretty color. Maybe driver's 
> side headlight is cracked?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Airport

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On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 18:37:53 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
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> Reminds me of when I was fresh out of school.  A buddy of mine and I
> had apartments at a place that had a fair number of young singles, and
> we were in the sauna talking. Not about work, just general
> conversation.  A cute girl and her friend came in and sat down during
> our conversation.  One turns to the other rolls her eyes, and says
> "Engineers" in a rather dismissive tone.
> 
> I don't think that these Rhodes scholars had yet figured out that
> Engineers are actually decent catches.  Probably just as well!  But,
> our tender wittle feewings were hurt, nonetheless.

I'm sure you have gotten over it by now and have found a lady who does
appreciate engineers.


Craig

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