Re: [MBZ] MBZ] No Start, 240D

[M G]

Which of the terminals on the starter/solenoid are you jumping with the 
screwdriver?

If it's the two big bolts with the heavy wires on them then the only thing that 
will happen is that the starter will turn. Just what is happening. 

If you are jumping the big wire coming into the solenoid to the small contact 
with the push-on terminal on it and the starter just turns then there is 
something wrong with the solenoid.

My guess is that you are jumping the two big wires. Try jumping the incoming 
big wire to the little terminal and it should make the starter turn the engine 
over rather then just running by itself. There should be a small wire on that 
small terminal. If there isn't then you need to look for it because it fell 
off. (push-on connector too loose) That would also be why turning the key 
doesn't make the starter work.

Manfred


Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:09:19 -0700
From: Bob Rentfro 
Subject: [MBZ] No Start, 240D


Over the last 4 months, I have replaced the following:
Ignition switch (electrical and mechanical portions)
Starter
Voltage regulator
Cables
Car will not start. Nothing happens when key is turned. When I turn the key
on and try to start it using the big old screwdriver, it just spins the
starter.What should I check? I'm getting annoyed.

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] This week's fender repair project.

[M G]

Ha I can tell you never drove down to Key West before they built all the new 
bridges. 

My Dad let me drive down there part of the way back in 64 or 65 on my learners 
permit. Thank god it was a VW bus. I remember that on some of the bridges the 
big trucks would slow down to 5mph or less and fold in their mirrors so that 
they could pass each other in opposite directions. When they could see ahead 
they would hit 55 or better and every time they blew past going the other way 
it rocked the old bus over to the side and blew the air diverter on the ceiling 
wide open. After a couple of time we just left it open even though it wasn't 
hot enough. Learned a lot that day.

Lots of fun.
Manfred


From: 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This week's fender repair project.

I can still remember dreading the drive across the old bridge from Mt
Pleasant to Charlestown narrow two lane bridge. Luckily the two lanes were
the same direction.

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Re: [MBZ] TD Hitch V2

[M G]

Thank you Wilton

Manfred


Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:57:29 -0500
From: "WILTON" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] TD Hitch V2


ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "MG" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: [MBZ] TD Hitch V2


> Just got done with version 2 of a receiver hitch for my 83 TD. Looks a
> lot better then the big clunky bar showing under the bumper with a 2"
> receiver. This one is a 1.25" receiver. May not be as strong as the 2"
> but then it doesn't have to haul 10,000lbs.
>
> Manfred
>

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[MBZ] pictures attached

[M G]

I see Kaleb is back. Maybe he will OK my message with pictures soon.
Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer hitch done

[M G]

My understanding was that the factory used the same bolts to hold their trailer 
hitch on. In any case there is an expensive aftermarket hitch that uses the 
same fastening with the addition of I believe one more bolt on each side 
fastened to the under side of the main body channels on each side. Since I 
don't intend to pull heavy trailers I'm pretty sure that the bumper fasteners 
will be good enough. If needed I can always add two bolts to the bumper to give 
it a bit more hold. 

The hitch that came on my 300D is done that way. Two bolts to the bumper and a 
couple to the bottom of the spare tire well. I did add a bit of extra metal 
inside the well (4" x 12") to kind of spread the load a bit. I haven't had any 
problems with that in the 7 or so years that I've used it. So given that I 
believe that for the intended use my hitch will be at least as good.

Manfred 

Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:49:18 -0500
From: Max Dillon 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trailer hitch done

Looks fine to me!  My only concern is all the bolts to the body - what is on 
the other side of the body metal?  If just a nut and a washer, that is 
considerably less substantial than a factory hitch.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 

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[MBZ] trailer hitch

[M G]

I just finished and installed a trailer hitch on mt TD. I added some pictures 
for those interested but the message is awaiting OK from Kaleb.

Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] steering gear bozes: was - 15cm of hose

[M G]

Jaime, Do you know if the current rebuilds from the dealer for a W126 steering 
box will be a totally new box?

Manfred


Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 07:23:52 -0500
From: Jaime Kopchinski 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 15cm of hose: was - OT Cold weather issues

Regarding steering boxes... I went through quite an ordeal last year trying
to get a properly rebuilt one from several rebuilders, -Snip-

I ended up going with an MB rebuild and I'm still blown away by how it
feels each time I drive the car.  People like to say that up to 20mm of
play in the wheel is normal.  It may be with in acceptable wear, but its
not how a box should be when new.  This box is perfectly tight and has the
precise steering of a new car.  If you have the budget and plan to keep the
car for a long time, I recommend this route.

Jaime


Exactly.  I wasn't sure how public that info was, but yes, they are brand
new boxes.

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Re: [MBZ] 15cm of hose: was - OT Cold weather issues

[M G]

According to my local MB dealer those short pieces of hose are now once again 
available. You no longer have to buy the whole meter long piece. That is of 
course if you absolutely need it right now and the dealer has it in stock , 
which is doubtful. Much easier and quicker to go with Rusty.

BTW Rusty, Are steering gear boxes for an 81 W126 still available and how much?

Manfred

Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:21:10 -0600
From: Fmiser 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 15cm of hose:  was - OT Cold weather issues

 but the thermostat bypass hose on a later model OM616
or OM617 is the same sort of deal where MBUSA sells only 1 m,
but Rusty is nice enough to cut as sell it in small pieces.

--Philip


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

[M G]

Thank you for clearing up some of my misconceptions Philip. The problem with 
the program disks is not a problem if the computer is running XP directly as 
the disk will be either exchanged with the disk already in the computer or if 
the disk in the computer is bigger then the old disk will be cloned onto the 
new disk. That way everything will still work, or should anyway. 

If a used/refurbished Asus G1 or G1s was not so expensive then I would get 
another one of them but it seems like they cost upwards of $1000 or more for 
the couple I have found. Course those may have been on old pages from years 
ago, can't tell. The one I have went to Iraq in 05 with my daughter and lasted 
till now when I screwed up and forgot to clean the radiator so that the video 
chip overheated and died.

Manfred

Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 21:31:07 -0600
From: Fmiser 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed


> Of course there is also the fact that I no longer can find all
> the program disks to reinstall the programs I have.

Ah.  That will be a problem no matter _what_ you do for a new
computer.  New hardware or new virtual machine will both need
installers.

--   Philip


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

[M G]

would have to install and configure as well as learn how to do it all. Then I 
have also heard that it is in some cases a lot slower and not all programs run 
in a virtual machine. Or so I was told.

Of course there is also the fact that I no longer can find all the program 
disks to reinstall the programs I have.

Manfred


Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:27:07 -0600
From: Fmiser 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

. No I don't want to run XP in
> > a virtual machine under linux or win7 as that is to me just
> > too cumbersome.

>  Rick Knoble wrote:
>
> I run Linux. Much like Apple products "it just works". I do
> have to boot into Windows soon though, TurboTax doesn't make a
> Linux version.

Better than Apple in that regard.  It might take more to get it
set to be comfortable - but it's quite rare for something to
quit working.  Once it's working it stays that way.

As far as a virtual machine, what aspect do you find cumbersome?

--  Philip, with less than 20 virtual machines.  I think...


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

[M G]

Thanks Rick, I'll look for those.

Manfred

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:46:01 -0600
From: Rick Knoble 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

A Lenovo T-60 or T-61 would fit your needs nicely. As would a Dell D-630.
I run Linux. Much like Apple products "it just works". I do have to boot into 
Windows soon though, TurboTax doesn't make a Linux version.

Rick
Sent from my iPhone


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[MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

[M G]

OK my turn to go off talking about MBs.

My laptop crumped. It was an Asus G1 and has served well for a long time. I 
have another newer laptop that I absolutely hate as it has win7 and will not 
allow XP Pro to be installed. It is an HP G60-635DX and nowhere can I find any 
drivers for XP or any instructions on how to go about doing the dirty deed.
Yes I know that linux of some flavor or another may be installable but I have 
some older programs that require no later then XP in order to run. No I don't 
want to run XP in a virtual machine under linux or win7 as that is to me just 
too cumbersome.

My thought is to see if anyone knows of a laptop that I can look for that has 
drivers for XP and will allow XP to be installed. I would prefer one that runs 
at 2+ ghz, has all the normal plugin possibilities, and will take a 6 gig drive 
or bigger. I don't need a huge screen and don't really like the keyboards that 
have a numeric keypad added in the right of the normal keyboard as I don't use 
it and it puts the keyboard off center and it feels wrong. 

So there it is. I would be grateful for any suggestions.

Manfred

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[MBZ] 1985 300TD

[M G]

Who was looking for a TD? This one looks to be not all that bad for the price.
http://gainesville.craigslist.org/cto/3049825584.html

Manfred


1984 Mercedes Benz turbo diesel 300 wagon. Tires are 1 year old. Regular oil 
changes. New high pressure hydraulic line. New air filter. Brake pads are 1 
year old. Primary and secondary fuel filters changed with every oil change. New 
high pressure power steering and low pressure hoses. SLS system pump works. 
Battery is only one year old. Engine is very strong and dependable along with 
transmission.

Asking $2500 OBO

*No A/C
*No radio 


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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Pump Not Delivering - Progress Report - and

[M G]

That's exactly what I like about this group. If someone has a question about 
most anything it is usually answered but in the main we are held together by 
our cars as we try to and mostly succeed in holding our cars together.

Manfred

Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:37:16 -0500
From: Randy Bennell 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Pump Not Delivering - Progress Report - and
frustration

But very often, not about Mercedes.

Randy



On 20/04/2012 9:38 AM, Rick Knoble wrote:
> I quit the MB diesel yahoo group for that reason. Well, more like lack of 
> knowledgeable individuals. I am sure there are more groups, lists, and forums 
> like that. It may have changed since then. This particular email list is and 
> has been a fount of knowledge for many subjects, not just Mercedes. I have 
> been here a decade and_I learn something new and interesting almost every day.
> _
> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Wood gas. was: abuse of cars 2ejuremy

[M G]

I know that Grant. I was just say it to point out that for what I wanted to do 
it would be more or less impossible given the scale of my dream. :-)

Manfred

Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:51:20 -0700
From: G Mann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wood gas. was: abuse of cars 2ejuremy

Nothing personal intended in my comment below, it was meant as an
expression of the cumulative lack of balls now shown by American business
and Americans in general. Are there no real men left who are not enslaved
by PC , womens lip and government by regulation rather than legislation?

Remember when leaders actually did things? Offending someone or some
"special class" be damned? Remember when America out produced every country
in the history of the world? Remember when America went to war to WIN...
not to "Police for the UN" ?  When "Made in America" meant "Made by
Americans" who paid taxes, raised families, went to church, supported their
communities and ran their schools so their children were actually educated,
not warehoused while mom "found herself in the business world" but engaged
in the honorable profession of "motherhood"?

Look around you now and find ANY of that... tell me where it is, or why
it's gone.

My read on it all is an attitude of "waiting for government to fix it
first" while I set on my uneducated ass and draw from the public
coffers.

Damn, Ferdand Porsche said it best "Leaders make decisions, committees only
discuss problems"

Grant AZ...


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Re: [MBZ] OT: anyone know about commercial cooking equipment?

[M G]

For natural gas yes. IF you have propane at home then you will need a 
conversion kit with different sized gas jets and the internal regulator will 
have to be set for 10" wc.

Google the model number and see if it is a true commercial model. It may be a 
home model. That said the installation of an inexpensive used stove and hood is 
still less then the cost of the same thing new plus the installation. ;-)

Manfred


Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:25:50 -0500
From: Allan Streib 
Subject: [MBZ] OT: anyone know about commercial cooking equipment?

University is surplusing a 48" Viking commercial range.  Something
that's been on my "someday" list is to get a 48" range in the kitchen.
The label on the back specifies natural gas, 5" W.C., anyone know if
that's in the ballpark of a residential gas supply?

Allan
-- 

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Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)

[M G]

I was thinking more the theme song from Deliverance.

Manfred


Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:24:38 -0700
From: G Mann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shiners (not Shriners)


No worries, if it tastes bad or makes your neighbor go blind, sell it as
Ethanol and get a govmnt rebate. Remember, if it destroys lives, it will be
good enough to destroy your car.

Think "green"... Solent green [hum the theme song to "Beverly
Hillbilllys"]

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Re: [MBZ] Shipping A Vehicle vs. Fly And Drive

[M G]

another thing to think about is the bearings. If they are too loose even a well 
balanced trailer will sway.


Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:03:07 -0600
From: Fmiser 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shipping A Vehicle vs. Fly And Drive
Message-ID: <20120118150307.20efc98e.fmi...@gmail.com>


> > Dan Penoff wrote:
> >
> > I loaded probably 400-500 pounds of bricks into a little
> > UHaul trailer and hooked it up to my 1991 Ford Escort wagon.
> > Thinking that it was best to have the load in the front of
> > the trailer, I stacked the bricks up against the front wall
> > ahead of the axle.



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Re: [MBZ] elderly diesels, sans turbo

[M G]

They are probably faster then a 64 VW bus (40hp) with about 1200lbs of 
flagstones in it  going from the Catskills to Westchester in NY. Believe me 
that thing went really slow going up the hills.
Did go a bit fast downhill though.

According to the editors of Car life Mag they couldn't get it to go faster then 
59 mph so didn't list a time for the 61 deluxe van. It did do a 25.6 second 
quarter mile though. Only 1/2 second slower the Chevy's Greenbrier van which 
had 80hp. Course it was a bit heavier.

Manfred

Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:25:04 -0600
From: Randy Bennell 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] elderly diesels, sans turbo


I have driven slower vehicles.

Ever drive a Pinto or 4 cyl Mustang from way back around the late 70's??

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

[M G]

I don't think you would like a V-12, that is unless you can strip off all the 
anti pollution junk on it. It is a nightmare to work on.

As far as 8 hours for a valve adjustment, could be book time but I remember 
doing a complete valve job on my 63 3.8l e-type. Started right after work at 5 
and got done about 2 AM. Drove it home slept and was back at work at 7 the next 
morning. Course trip time was only about 10 min. Was only about 23 at the time 
so had a lot more energy and didn't run down as fast as now. AH! Those were the 
days.

Manfred

Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:48:11 -0500
From: Rich Thomas 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

I liked those 70s Ford Granadas, just like a Mercedes!

I would take a nice E-Type, maybe a V12

--R

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[MBZ] TD rear windshield rubber

[M G]

Any one know where to get a rear windshield rubber gasket for an 83 123.193 
(TD)? Other then Mercedes that is. I can't seem to find any after market ones 
anywhere. Even Rusty's site doesn't list them.

Manfred

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[MBZ] 123 TD sunroof frame

[M G]

OK Looks like I need a sunroof frame for a 123 TD. 
that's the part mounted under the roof that the sun roof slides on and the 
drain hoses connect to. The one on the new car is all gone on one side. Seems 
that Mercedes does not have any and has no plans to produce new ones so my only 
option is to find one from a car that is being parted out. If anyone runs 
across one in the southeast please let me know.

Manfred


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[MBZ] Daughter's new car

[M G]

Went to pick up the 83 300TD today. Drove home about 100 miles without any 
problems. Now just need to start on the little issues. Vacuum problems, a 
replacement window motor for the left rear door, check on what is needed on the 
sunroof and most important look at the front brakes. One side seems to be in 
need of a caliper and hose as it isn't releasing right. That of course means 
two calipers and hoses as well as Akibonos? at the very least. Those seem to be 
the most important things. Later I will probably need to look at the condition 
of the suspension front and rear. The engine seems to be good though slow to 
accelerate. It's possible that the turbo is dragging. I'll know more when I 
hook up a gauge and take it for a drive.

Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 69, Issue 156

[M G]

You do realize that top speed on these is around 45-50mph unless you really 
wind up the engine.


Manfred

> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:08:54 -0400
> From: Rolf 
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ive got the mog bug
> Message-ID: <4e57c516.4000...@winmutt.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
> 
> http://collegestation.craigslist.org/cto/2565372652.html
> 
> I could have it towed for $1000.
> 
> -Rolf
> 

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 300D Hard Starting / AC Issue.

[M G]

If I remember correctly, If the clutch isn't seized to the pulley then the 
pulley should turn free and easy. If the pulley doesn't turn it is usually the 
bearing on the front of the compressor that the pulley turns on. This is 
usually an easy repair after you get the compressor out and does not mean the 
compressor itself is bad.

Manfred


Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:31:31 -0500
From: Randy Bennell 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 300D Hard Starting / AC Issue.


I am no expert on AC but is this not an issue with the clutch? The
clutch should permit the pulley to free wheel even if the compressor
won't turn shouldn't it?

Randy 

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Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fans

[M G]

I'll have to find me a couple of those and retrofit my car.

Manfred




Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 06:04:54 -0700
From: Jim Cathey 
Subject: [MBZ] Auxiliary fans


> It takes a bit of heat to get them to come on doesn't it.

Speaking of auxiliary fans, I'm impressed at how much air
the twin fans of the 560 SEL move, and how quietly.  Could
barely hear them when they kicked on while charging the AC,
yet the hot blast of air made me have to get a string to
tie to the throttle to rev it up  rather than grasping it
directly.

Unlike everything else we've got, which roar when they
come on.

-- Jim




  
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[MBZ] Router help

[M G]

My daughter asked me about the longest range wireless
router in N. She is at camp Victory and a bunch of the
people got together and bought a used satellite dish
from some of the guys who were coming home. They live
in three trailers with foot thick concrete blast walls
between them. They have two access points on two of
the trailers but since she is the only one in the
third trailer in on the deal there is no router there
and her computer doesn't get the signal. So she wants
to buy a router that she can use when she gets back. I
don't understand how a wireless router will get the
signal when her laptop can¢t but I think it is just
the size of the antenna on the laptop vs. the one on
the router. That would mean I guess that she would
connect her laptop to the router with a cable and use
that or can she just connect to it wireless without a
computer connected to the router with a cable? Anyway
I know there was talk about that on the list a while
back but I didn't pay much attention to it so if any
of you have an opinion I would be happy to pass it on
to her.

Thanks,
Manfred


  

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[MBZ] Obama not born here another view

[M G]

What do you guys think of this video? I have heard the
claims before but never with all these details.

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/a_video_that_could_change_the_election/

Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] Topsider and ATF

[M G]

OK Mitch, if I could remember what I read then I
wouldn't have to
 repeat 
what you already said.

Sorry about that,

Manfred




Good idea. But you still need to take off the pan and
see what is in
there and put on a new filter. What's in the bottom of
the pan will
 tell
you a lot about the condition of the tranny. Maybe
drop the pan first,
clean it and put a new filter on and then do the
cooler line thing. I
like that idea, never did it on the line but makes a
lot of sense on
your own car.

Manfred




Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 08:24:12 -0400
From: Mitch Haley 

What I'd do on a new to me car with unknown crap in
the pan:
I'd buy a filter/gasket kit. Unhook the cooling line
into
the radiator. Maybe give the radiator a shot of air to
blow the oil in it back to the pan. Put a clear hose
on the cooling line, start the car, and run it until
bubbles appear. Shut off the car, pull the pan, change
the filter, dump a gallon of fluid in. Run the engine
until the fluid comes out clear, now you've got a
converter full of new fluid. Hook up the line to the
radiator, finish filling the tranny.


  

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[MBZ] what's the best TD

[M G]

I am thinking of looking for a 300TD. I need the room
to carry stuff that I now always find myself having to
plan ahead and bring a trailer. What I don't know is
which one is the best. My first thought is to stay
with an 81 to 84 300TD as I am familiar with that
combo because of my current 83 300D. What I don't know
is if the later 85 on up is better or not. I figure
the mileage is the same with either model and
shouldn't be any different than what I get with my
300D (about 27 combined) If so why or if not why, and
in what ways. I figure asking all of you is the only
way to get an informed intelligent answer.

Let the storm begin! :-)

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Re: [MBZ] Some used cars that someone may be interested in

[M G]

If they are all as bad as the tempo that he has on
Craigs list looks then I can see why, especially since
the truck seems to be a lot high in price.

Manfred


Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:43:26 -0600
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Re: [MBZ] 603 really smoky after sitting a while

[M G]

Alex,

That has happened on my 300D as well as two GM vans.
One a 6.2 the other a 6.5. It has only happened after
they had been standing for a couple of weeks and I
think only if it had been raining or had a very high
humidity during that time. 

I believe it happens because the moisture has seeped
into the carbon collected in the tail pipe and
loosened it. Then when you accelerate the higher
velocity of the exhaust gases at the higher RPM before
the transmission shifts knocks the carbon loose and
blows it out in a black cloud. If you tend to
accelerate hard all the time it seems to lessen the
amount of carbon blowout after standing. Conversely if
you drive the car very easily and don't let the rpm
build up a lot then the deposits seem to get worse and
cause a lot more carbon blowout the next time the car
sits for a time or even if you suddenly decide to
accelerate hard some time you may have more carbon
blowout then you would otherwise. It doesn't mean that
the car is suddenly using more fuel.

At least that is what I have surmised from the
observations in about 15 years of driving diesels. 

Manfred


ate: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:32:31 -0800
From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 603 really smoky after sitting a
while
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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Well, yeah, but why did it do it in the first place? 
Never has before.

On Jan 11, 2008 10:31 AM, Gary Hurst
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i think you fixed it!
>
> On Jan 11, 2008 12:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > My 300D was sitting for about a week and a half
while I tried to
 find
> the
> > time


  

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Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild

[M G]

Luther,

At the risk of having people get upset with me, I
reply anyway. 

I have an 83 300D so I know this worked with my car. I
had to replace the lower ball joints, so I jacked up
the car and put jack stands under it near the front. 

Then I tried to put the spring compressor, which I
bought from HF, on the spring. There wasn't enough
room to use it so I decided to at least get the
springs out and have the ball joints pressed in while
I worry about getting another type of spring
compressor to put it all together later. Since I was
outside and knew that the springs could come out of
there with quite a bit of force I made sure that there
was nothing in the way to get damaged or no one there
to get hurt just in case. Mind you I don't recommend
that anyone do this as you could very likely get hurt
big time.

Then I put the floor jack right under the ball joint
and jacked up a bit so I could disconnected
everything. That done I got on the hood just to make
sure that I wouldn't be in the firing line (OK so I'm
a wimp and a scardy cat) and slowly let the jack down.
Total anticlimax in this case. Nothing happened other
then the jack went down and the spring relaxed. The
spring was all loose in place with no tension on it at
all. I made sure of that before I came down off the
hood by poking it with a stick (yes I used to poke
sleeping dogs also, I had to learn everything the hard
way). In order to get the spring out I had to push
down on the hub/control arm so that the control arm
would go down far enough for the bottom of the spring
to clear it's seat.

Like I said, that was on my car. If it will be the
same on yours I don't know. If anyone decides to try
it this way they need to be aware that they are taking
a risk of precipitating a catastrophic event that
might cause irreparable harm to life limb and
property! What can I say, I'm just a calculated risk
taker. Mind you I do not like to gamble so that should
tell you how closely I watch and assess the risks I
take.

Oh by the way, assembly was the reverse of disassembly
and also went without any problems.

Manfred



Luther wrote;

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:36:53 -0600
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I have, but I spoke with Rusty on the phone today and
his thoughts were
  
that the U/L control arms and brake track rod can be
done withOUT using
 a  
(and only THE) spring compressor.  I'm wondering who
has done the front
  
end like this, and how they did it?  Thanks,
Luther


  

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Re: [MBZ] Indian Jaguar

[M G]

I like the smaller ones myself. I think the suspension system holds up better 
with age so they tend to ride a bit higher as they get older. But I guess thats 
all personal preference just like the diesel or gas engine thing in our MBs.

Manfred


Rich wrote;

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:16:22 -0600
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I like huge Tata's, I think it is good for a country to have such
 things.

--R


   
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Re: [MBZ] Changing glow plugs?

[M G]

Yeah one of my Dad's old chestnuts, Larry.
Now that I've shared it you all you can help carry the burden. :-)

I know I've never done anything that stupid before and never will either

Those little things do get mighty hot don't they. And how about that little rim 
of yellowish and brown burned skin around the edge.
Kind of like the same color as when you burn the hair off the back of your arm. 

Mind you like I said, I've never done anything like that...It's all just 
hearsay.
Yeah that's all.You do believe me don't you?

Manfred

Just thinking about it brings the memory back like a kiss on the end of a wet 
fist.

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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:23:06 -0500
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Hi Manfred,
Great story!

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Re: [MBZ] Changing glow plugs?

[M G]

Reminds me of an old story;

Seems a guy walked into a blacksmith shop just after the blacksmith got 
finished making some horseshoes. 
The guy picks up one of the hot horseshoes but of course drops it right away. 
Blacksmith says, Whats the matter too hot? 
Guy says, No. It just don't take me long to look at a horseshoe.

Manfred
83 300D


I didn't hold the glow plug - I picked it up when I thought it was cool
enough. It took me 20 minutes to find it after my fingers cooled off.

Thanks, Tom
256-656-1924

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Geez Tom -  Don't hold them!  ;-)

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)

   
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD

[M G]

well I guess it will remain a non turbo car till I can find a good inexpensive 
turbo engine.

Thanks to all of you for the help.
Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] 300TD

[M G]

As far as I'm concerned anything over 3000 is way too much for an old car no 
matter how good it is. Anyone have a Ferrari 250GT for sale? I guess I could go 
another couple of hundred on something like that.   :-O

Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] 300TD

[M G]

Thank you very much for the info Kaleb. I have a 300D and really need a 300TD. 
This one isn't a turbo but I guess it will have to do. Is it very hard for 
someone who can do good mechanical work to change it to a turbo? I figure it 
may need the parts from a UPull lot. Turbo, intake and exhaust manifolds and 
the various sensors and vacuum switches. Do I have to get the complete 
injection pump or can I add the parts (ADDA?) to the NA injection pump? It has 
a new pump and injectors so if that can't be done then I might have to just 
drive it like it is even if it will be a bit anemic compaired to the turbo 300D.

Manfred





Message: 5
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:21:44 -0600
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I have no idea, but a guess would be anywhere from 1500-2500 or so for
 one 
in good shape with no paint issues, no interior issues, everything
 working, 
no rust etc.

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Re: [MBZ] 300TD

[M G]

Well in that case I will definitely have to buy it and drive up there to sell 
it. :-)

Manfred




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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:47:43 -0800
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On 11/5/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have no idea, but a guess would be anywhere from 1500-2500 or so
 for one
> in good shape with no paint issues, no interior issues, everything
 working,
> no rust etc.
>

Or about twice that in the Pacific Northwest.  ;)

Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD

[M G]

Thanks Tom,

That doesn't sound like very many all in all. I guess that is in part why they 
cost a bit more then a 300D. 

Manfred



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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:47:15 -0600
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M G wrote:
> Does anyone know if all the 300TDs were turbo or were most of them
 non turbo?

Worldwide, most were normally aspirated with 36,874 non-turbos built vs
 
28,219 turbos.  In the US, the non-turbo was available only in 1979 and
 
'80.  RHD were all non-turbo, and I think both were available 
concurrently in mainland Europe.

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Re: [MBZ] 300TD

[M G]

Thanks for the info Kaleb. Would you also happen to know the range of price for 
a 79 in decent condition?

Manfred

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[MBZ] 300TD

[M G]

Does anyone know if all the 300TDs were turbo or were most of them non turbo?

Thanks,
Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] More on Weird vacuum problem -- perplexion

[M G]

Hi Rich,

I joined the list just recently and have just been  reading, not having too 
much to contribute. I have been thinking a bit on your problem and I believe 
that your booster is indeed bad. To my recollection there is a valve in the 
booster that in the closed position allows vacuum on both sides of the 
diaphragm. When the valve is opened by a push on the peddle the valve shuts off 
the vacuum from the reservoir and opens a port from the outside to one side of 
the diaphragm. That provides the power to put on the brakes. If the valve does 
not shut off the supply from the reservoir then the vacuum in the reservoir 
will go out with the vacuum on the other side of the diaphragm and vacuum in 
the line from the vacuum pump will show low and the brakes will not work very 
well. Just the symptoms you seem to have.

Hope I'm still remembering all of this right and it is of some use to you.

Manfred

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