Re: [MBZ] Gummit corruption

[Michael Canfield]

And Federal courts are always right?  No.

Get all of the facts before calling the man a thief.  He is being bullied
by thieves!

Mike
On Apr 11, 2014 10:11 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:

> That Federal Land has been Federal Land since long before Nevada became a
> state.  Mr. Bundy is stealing US property for his own profit.
>
> Unless he has a land grant from the King of Spain prior to the Mexican War
> that is grandfathered in by the Treaty of Guadalupe y Hidalgo, he's not got
> a case.
>
> He has been ordered off the land TWICE by Federal Courts.
>
> This is nothing more than a common thief making things up so he can keep
> stealing.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How big is it?

[Michael Canfield]

How do they compare to Muck boots?

Mike
On Apr 4, 2014 10:40 AM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> Just like my dress shoes. Two words: Allen Edmonds
>
> Newest pair is 16 years old. Oldest pair in excess of 20. Need to break
> down and buy a new pair of black loafers this year. Will probably cost me
> $300 unless I go to Port Washington this summer and attend their tent sale.
>
> Money very well spent.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > I have a pair of made in the USA Red Wings and a pair of made in Italy
> hiking boots which are in fact my daily footwear. After 3 years my hikers
> need new soles. I'm debating seeing if I can find somebody to do the job or
> paying LL Bean for another pair.
> >
> > For dress shoes I have a pair of Italian shoes.
> >
> > I bought all the footwear listed above in 1 year and paid more than I'd
> paid in the previous 10. It was totally worth it.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 22:40:09 -0500
> > From: Mountain Man 
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How big is it?
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Curt wrote:
> >> I won't go back to cheap socks, my feet are too important to me.
> >
> > Chinese merino wool?
> > Thanks for recommending darntough socks.
> > What leather do you wear over the socks?  I wear Red Wing carefully
> > because they have lines that are china.
> > mao
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Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)

[Michael Canfield]

Because they would waste less bandwidth.  If everyone would just quit
complaining and arguing that would save a lot.

And then there is the little button that looks like a trash can.  Guess it
would have been much easier than all of this typing.

Mike
On Apr 1, 2014 6:22 PM, "G. M. Brown"  wrote:

> SINCE WHEN DID THIS LIST'S EMPHASIS CHANGE TO POLITICS?  WHY NOT
> DETERIORATE FURTHER TO ARGUMENTS REGARDING RELIGION?
>
> G. M. Brown
> Brevard, NC
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...

[Michael Canfield]

Do some more research.  That is not what it is all about.  With Common Core
there is no time to teach.  Each lesson is provided on a daily basis and on
to the next the very next day with no time for the teacher to pass on the
info.  How can every student learn every lesson in 1 hour or less?  Common
core is for sheeple.
  Even our teachers are mostly against common core.

Mike
On Apr 1, 2014 12:10 AM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:

> I believe there are some problems with Common Core, but they are, so far
> as I can tell, mostly lack of clarity and lack of teaching materials.
> Hard to produce a set of textbooks following the curriculum in a matter of
> months.
>
> Indiana just ditched Common Core, but that is all about
>
> I cannot fathom the notion that there would be very much difference
> between that and any other standard curriculum unless there are some really
> bad ones out there -- after all, humans have been recording how to teach
> children for around 3000 years now.  Can't be THAT much new under the sun.
>
> Most of the "criticism" of Common Core is that it's NIH (not invented
> here) and hence, since it's a Federal Standard, must be spawn of the devil
> and proponents must be burned at the stake as heretics with much howling
> and gnashing of teeth.
>
> The notion that local standards are better than a national one is a crock
> of excrement.  I seriously doubt some flyspeck down at the end of a dirt
> road is gonna come up with something better.  It's all about cranking up
> the radical right religious base, not education.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)

[Michael Canfield]

I want my physician to be wealthy and happy.  He will do a better job.  The
hospital owners and shareholders and such that think they deserve to be
rich for providing the doctor a place to work are just as bad as the big
box store scoundrels we all complain about.

Mike
On Mar 29, 2014 11:43 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

> That's actually a good thing isn't it?  Where is it written that every
> physician has to be wealthy.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>
> > Q: "What´s the difference between an Obamacare HMO physician and a
> > seagull?"
> >
> > A: "A seagull can still make a significant deposit on a Mercedes."
> >
> > ba-da-boom, I'll be here all week...
> >
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Re: [MBZ] A Sad Day, Indeed....

[Michael Canfield]

Dennis is a genious.  He recently opened the DAMM Park.(Dennis Anderson's
Muddy Motorsports Park) for a place for the locals to play.  His signature
is destruction, big money destruction and it makes him very wealthy.

Mike
On Mar 23, 2014 2:17 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> Right up there with the guy who has the "Gravedigger" monster truck.  That
> guy is a genius and must be a millionaire many times over.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
> > gene simmons is about the slickest marketer there is, so i wouldn't be
> too
> > worried about him
> >
> > kiss came out of the neighborhood i grew up in.  there were two european
> > sports cars in my neighborhood, a 914 and an XKE.  the XKE was owned by a
> > the family of a guy who played bass in a band with stanley eisen (soon to
> > be paul stanley).  the band wasn't going anywhere, so he quit and
> presented
> > the "israeli guy" as his replacement
> >
> > it worked out well for the band from that point on
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >
> >> When bands like KISS and Def Leppard have to resort to Groupon for
> sales:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.groupon.com/deals/gl-kiss-def-leppard-20?p=1&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&sid=e38cdcc1-7f2b-4528-b899-26f9283bf758&division=tampa-bay-area&user=b716fb5fec119fb6b6fb7736705527e4e4e56d6307e0e57ec1615cceff56fc7a&date=20140323&s=body&c=link&d=deal-page&utm_campaign=e38cdcc1-7f2b-4528-b899-26f9283bf758&;
> >>
> >> And I thought it was bad when Barry Manilow was doing it
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

[Michael Canfield]

It's just like I tell my kids.  It works for them, it will work for you.

Quit whining and giving the bullies what they want.  Simple.  You don't
respond because, well, you should always try to be a bigger man than your
attacker.

Mike
On Mar 23, 2014 9:44 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> there is a vocal minority on this list who live to be bullies.  the only
> solution is the one gerry suggests, that of zero tolerance towards personal
> attacks.  but the moderator is asleep at the wheel and the majority has no
> will to to insist the solution be implemented.
>
> so what is left to do?
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Michael Canfield  >wrote:
>
> > Geez Gary.  I guess I need banned then.  Here's a personal
> attack...Hey
> > Gary, you need to quityerfuckinwhinin.
> >
> > Ban away.  I prefer to listen to teenage girls on Facebook.
> >
> > Mike
> > On Mar 23, 2014 9:31 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
> >
> > > geez, another personal attack.  what a surprise!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Michael Canfield  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Quitnyerfuckinwhinin.  A German word some folks need to learn.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > On Mar 23, 2014 8:46 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > yes, well, that would solve it.  but this whole list is personal
> > > attacks
> > > > > and then the stupid mob piling on, so kaleb won't do it as he fears
> > the
> > > > > attackers won't like him anymore
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com <
> > > > > arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This is a common problem on many other lists.  The most
> successful
> > > > > > solution I've seen is to have only one rule:  NO PERSONAL
> ATTACKS.
> > >  If
> > > > a
> > > > > > member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended
> for
> > 30
> > > > > days.
> > > > > >  In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people
> he
> > > > bans,
> > > > > > the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as
> > moderators
> > > > > whose
> > > > > > only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions.
>  The
> > > > votes
> > > > > > will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually
> > the
> > > > > list
> > > > > > owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list
> > if
> > > a
> > > > > > majority of moderators have agreed.  Any time after 30 days the
> > > member
> > > > > can
> > > > > > rejoin.
> > > > > > Members can attack other members position on whatever is being
> > > > discussed,
> > > > > > but not other members personally.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150
> > > were
> > > > > > given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list
> > members.
> > > >  The
> > > > > > fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very
> calming
> > > > > effect
> > > > > > on members who tend to be too outspoken.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number
> of
> > > > > > moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed.  I don't
> > > know
> > > > if
> > > > > > Kalebs has one or not.
> > > > > > Gerry
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this.  This is
> > > > ridiculous.
> > > > > >>   There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts
> > > like
> > > > > this
> > > > > >> seriously undermine what little community is left.  The future
> of
> > > the
> > > > > list
> > > > > >> is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even
> > > slightly
> > > &g

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

[Michael Canfield]

Geez Gary.  I guess I need banned then.  Here's a personal attack...Hey
Gary, you need to quityerfuckinwhinin.

Ban away.  I prefer to listen to teenage girls on Facebook.

Mike
On Mar 23, 2014 9:31 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> geez, another personal attack.  what a surprise!
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Michael Canfield  >wrote:
>
> > Quitnyerfuckinwhinin.  A German word some folks need to learn.
> >
> > Mike
> > On Mar 23, 2014 8:46 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
> >
> > > yes, well, that would solve it.  but this whole list is personal
> attacks
> > > and then the stupid mob piling on, so kaleb won't do it as he fears the
> > > attackers won't like him anymore
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com <
> > > arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is a common problem on many other lists.  The most successful
> > > > solution I've seen is to have only one rule:  NO PERSONAL ATTACKS.
>  If
> > a
> > > > member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended for 30
> > > days.
> > > >  In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he
> > bans,
> > > > the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators
> > > whose
> > > > only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions.  The
> > votes
> > > > will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually the
> > > list
> > > > owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list if
> a
> > > > majority of moderators have agreed.  Any time after 30 days the
> member
> > > can
> > > > rejoin.
> > > > Members can attack other members position on whatever is being
> > discussed,
> > > > but not other members personally.
> > > >
> > > > In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150
> were
> > > > given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list members.
> >  The
> > > > fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very calming
> > > effect
> > > > on members who tend to be too outspoken.
> > > >
> > > > Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number of
> > > > moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed.  I don't
> know
> > if
> > > > Kalebs has one or not.
> > > > Gerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this.  This is
> > ridiculous.
> > > >>   There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts
> like
> > > this
> > > >> seriously undermine what little community is left.  The future of
> the
> > > list
> > > >> is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even
> slightly
> > > >> useful.
> > > >>
> > > >> How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days?
> > > >>
> > > >> Jaime
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>  Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this
> > > list
> > > >>> with the guts to stand up to the condescending "hypocritical crap"
> > that
> > > >>> fats spews.  Good description Hendrik!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us
> > are
> > > >>> not afraid of the schoolyard bully.  A spade is a spade.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying
> > > parts
> > > >>> from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It
> > > amounts
> > > >>> to
> > > >>> several thousand dollars.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his
> (former)
> > > >>> customer.  It tends to drive away current and future customers.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to
> vendors
> > > who
> > > >

Re: [MBZ] Fats driving

[Michael Canfield]

Quitnyerfuckinwhinin.  A German word some folks need to learn.

Mike
On Mar 23, 2014 8:46 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> yes, well, that would solve it.  but this whole list is personal attacks
> and then the stupid mob piling on, so kaleb won't do it as he fears the
> attackers won't like him anymore
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com <
> arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This is a common problem on many other lists.  The most successful
> > solution I've seen is to have only one rule:  NO PERSONAL ATTACKS.  If a
> > member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended for 30
> days.
> >  In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans,
> > the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators
> whose
> > only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions.  The votes
> > will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually the
> list
> > owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list if a
> > majority of moderators have agreed.  Any time after 30 days the member
> can
> > rejoin.
> > Members can attack other members position on whatever is being discussed,
> > but not other members personally.
> >
> > In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150 were
> > given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list members.  The
> > fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very calming
> effect
> > on members who tend to be too outspoken.
> >
> > Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number of
> > moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed.  I don't know if
> > Kalebs has one or not.
> > Gerry
> >
> >
> > On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
> >
> >> Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this.  This is ridiculous.
> >>   There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like
> this
> >> seriously undermine what little community is left.  The future of the
> list
> >> is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly
> >> useful.
> >>
> >> How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days?
> >>
> >> Jaime
> >>
> >>
> >> On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this
> list
> >>> with the guts to stand up to the condescending "hypocritical crap" that
> >>> fats spews.  Good description Hendrik!
> >>>
> >>> Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are
> >>> not afraid of the schoolyard bully.  A spade is a spade.
> >>>
> >>> I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying
> parts
> >>> from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It
> amounts
> >>> to
> >>> several thousand dollars.
> >>>
> >>> He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former)
> >>> customer.  It tends to drive away current and future customers.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors
> who
> >>> do not bite the customer.  (no interest, no commissions, etc. just
> >>> willing
> >>> to help people find good sources for good parts.)
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Gary Hurst

[Michael Canfield]

You are on to something.  If you sue yourself are you schizophrenic in the
eyes of the court and therefore eleigible for ssi?

Mike
On Mar 21, 2014 8:40 PM, "Mountain Man"  wrote:

> Mike wrote:
> > I feel left out.  Who should I sue?
>
> Lessee...
> We need an attorney for this class action suit.
> I didn't see my name in my list either.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Gary Hurst

[Michael Canfield]

I feel left out.  Who should I sue?

Mike
On Mar 21, 2014 8:24 PM, "Mountain Man"  wrote:

> Grant wrote:
> > Please demonstrate, by your actions, your abilities to address and
> respect
> > your fellow man with civil responses.
>
> Show us how this is done, please.  We like Grant, we also like Gary,
> we like Kaleb, we like Curt, we like Craig, we like Marshall, we like
> Roger, we like Wilton, we love Sondrestrom, etc...
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Gary Hurst

[Michael Canfield]

Gary is whining about being a victim, again.  Sorry man, but this is
getting really old.

Mike
On Mar 21, 2014 11:26 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

>
> I'm not really sure what is going on here or who is calling who what but
> it needs to stop immediately.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 21, 2014, at 10:58 AM, G Mann  wrote:
> >
> > Consider yourself bitch slapped for opening your mouth yet again about
> this
> > tired issue.
> >
> > SHUT THE FUCK UP... forever. Stop your whining.
> >
> > Or.. go to the parking lot and practice falling down and bleeding.. your
> > choice.
> >
> > No one listens to you. No one has a duty to listen to you. Get it.  Stop
> > it. Do not respond.
> >
> > You have been rebuked and put on ignore, yet again.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> you aren't paying attention at all and just ramble on with the stupid.
> >> what point is there to try to explain it you once again?
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:36 AM, G Mann  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey Gary,
> >>>
> >>> Somehow, you have developed the fantasy that you are the Muhammad Ali
> of
> >>> Mouth.. you are not.
> >>>
> >>> Sell parts, Practice civility, and be Nice, or join "what's his name,
> the
> >>> thief, liar, and cheat" in the long list of people that other people
> find
> >>> unworthy to spend their life dealing with.
> >>>
> >>> Apparently, something in your genetic code requires you to abrade
> others.
> >>> Fix yourself, or get professional help, but stop doing it here.
> >>>
> >>> The next post I want to see should have no caustic comments to anyone,
> >> from
> >>> anyone. End it now, end it forever. I would not tolerate is with one of
> >> my
> >>> employees, one of my family, or even a casual acquaintance. If I heard
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Re: [MBZ] Gary Hurst

[Michael Canfield]

Wow.  I can't believe I just wasted all the time it took to read this.

This is half of the reason most of my mail from this group gets deleted,
unread.  I love to hear Wilton's tales and the other non-Benz drivel.  I
hate feeling like I am listening to my teenage daughters in disguise.

As, usual Grant says it best.  Wise fellow there.  But not just Gary needs
to listen.  Let's be logical men about the situation...if you can't get
along quit having internet balls and attacking people who you would never
say boo too in person!  I am so tired of how confrontational folks are when
there is no personal interaction.

Mike
On Mar 21, 2014 9:17 AM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> Grant, how is it you've stayed around here so long while making so much
> sense? Just a soft spot for us I suppose. :)
>
> A few months ago over on the TDI club I chastised somebody for whining
> with a STFU comment. I forget exactly what he was crying about but he
> sounded like a pre-teen girl. After posting I got a little nervous that
> maybe I'd get banned and then decided screw it, who cares? Well it turns
> out the guy was a long time whiner and after I called him out a bunch of
> people piled on. He acted all offended, typical city-folk response when
> confronted with redneck sensibility.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:35:35 -0700
> From: G Mann 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gary Hurst
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Really.. do we have to go through a PMS cycle every few days and listen to
> this drivel about who hurt who's feelings?
>
> Grow up, man up, and shut up.
>
> Gary.. apparently you are fat and ugly and will never play professional
> basket ball and can't sing.. ... live with it. Everyone else has to. Sell
> parts, try.. really try.. to stop being caustic and insulting.. it will
> amaze you how few will then pick on you.. If you do not have a copy of "How
> to win friends and influence enemies" get one.. if you can not afford to
> buy one.. I will buy it for you..
>
> But for Gawds sake.. tone down and tune out the "I'm being picked on "
> stuff.. "I have to fight back" stuff.. and the "you made me be a bad guy"
> stuff.. I went through it with my kids at age 3.. I don't wish to revisit
> it here.. 4 days of this is more than a lifetime worth.. Even the ex didn't
> stay PMS that long.. and I fired her..
>
> Please, and Thank you,
>
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Re: [MBZ] Watch a man get shot by Drone

[Michael Canfield]

Used to be

Mike
On Mar 8, 2014 10:06 AM, "Rich Thomas" 
wrote:

> Isn't that called a "wife?"
>
> --R (ducking...)
>
>
> On 3/7/14 8:52 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
>
>> How about a cooking machine that can prepared a fantastic meal and then
>> clean up?
>> A laundry that is automated, throw in you dirty stuff and ironed folded
>> clean stuff comes out.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Cut the arguing

[Michael Canfield]

I say I wonder why you don't, not that you should.  I say I would not put
up with it or I would ignore it.  Not bitch about it all of the time.
Ignore a bully and they go away.  Get mad and retaliate and they smile and
pick more.  I don't have anything against you Gary, I just question your
reasoning for putting up with something that bothers you so much.

Mike
On Mar 3, 2014 3:54 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> i have a few friends, such as you, fred.  i have a couple of ardent
> enemies.  and then there is a whole bunch who just wait to see which side
> the mob is moving towards and joins with venom.
>
> the two enemies i have, who attack me regularly, are rarely questioned,
> should i respond to them even one time in ten. i need to go.  michael
> canfield suggests that if i don't like the abuse, i ought to leave.
>
> well, i guess so
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Frederick Moir  >wrote:
>
> > Gary, et al.
> > Gary, you are a big man in all ways, could you not take the high road and
> > ignore the Lilli-putz?
> > If someone were ragging on me I'd find it amusing that someone of their
> > education and experience could not come up with something more original.
> > Maybe we need a super-hero, Prince Valium perhaps?
> > Please be comforted by knowing that you are (mostly) among friends.
> >
> > Fred Moir
> > Lynn MA
> > Diesel preferred.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > From: Gary Hurst 
> > >To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > >Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 8:56 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cut the arguing
> > >
> > >
> > >it's slander.  i'm not generally shipping the same products as AZ.
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Re: [MBZ] Cut the arguing

[Michael Canfield]

Obviously because you like the abuse.  If I felt I was being abused by a
group of people I would get away from that group.  You, on the other hand,
do all that you can to try to kiss this group's ass for no apparent reason
other than..well, who knows why?  I am not trying to slam you Gary.  I
just don't understand why you would go through what appears to be a lot of
trouble for you just to satisfy a few folks on a mailing list.

Mike
On Mar 3, 2014 10:09 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> i guess i wonder why you pick out the things that are not slander to prove
> i've gone too far talking about the things that are slander
>
> and why do i need to be under attack here anyway?
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> > it is slander to say i am selling the exact same parts as AZ, as this is
> > generally not so.  those who buy a bundle of parts from me will end up
> with
> > a very different bundle than they might get from AZ, even if some parts,
> > like these bilstein parts, might overlap.  you are very quick to
> pronounce
> > that i have "gone too far" without even looking at the specific issue i
> am
> > addressing.
> >
> > yes, a bilstein shock is a bilstein shock and i'd like to get 10% more
> > than AZ for that shock for the hundreds if not thousands i will save you
> by
> > keeping you out of the dismal chinese they will also happily sell you and
> > for numerous other reasons as well.  every one of you who has bought both
> > from me and AZ knows the difference between the two yet this one
> character
> > who has no business with me goes on and on and on and on for year now
> > against me and all just let it slide
> >
> > and any answer i might give puts me as "gone too far"
> >
> > i have treated all of you who do business with me extremely well.  it is
> > not right how i am publicly treated here
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Its not slander to say that when ordering a Bilstein shock from you or
> >> from AZ you get the same thing. Its not slander to say that AZ has
> treated
> >> Loren well any more than its slander for me to say AZ has not treated me
> >> well.
> >>
> >> You were doing well in this argument but have gone to far...
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 08:56:16 -0500
> >> From: Gary Hurst 
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cut the arguing
> >> Message-ID:
> >>  >
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >> it's slander.  i'm not generally shipping the same products as AZ.  i'm
> >> not
> >> offering the same level of service.  i have two guys here who slander me
> >> viciously on a regular basis and i am not allowed to respond.  why is it
> >> tolerated generally and specifically by list administration?
> >>
> >> here's a guy who does not buy from me but is an expert on what i do and
> do
> >> not ship people.  then he concludes that i must be banned.
> >>
> >> you are rotten people to allow this to continue now for almost a year
> >> unabated.
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Re: [MBZ] ALDA

[Michael Canfield]

So it basically keeps folks from overfueling and burning up their engines
pulling big hills?  So keep your foot out of the throttle and watch the
exhaust for smoke if your ALDA is deleted right?

Mike
 On Feb 21, 2014 9:26 AM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The ALDA is critical for getting extra power from the turbo.  The turbo
>> just
>> adds more air, which (by itself) doesn't make more power.  The ALDA causes
>> the IP to add the extra fuel to generate power with the additional air.
>>
>> The ALDA has a rod that pushes down on a linkage in the IP to *reduce* the
>> amount of injected fuel.  Intake manifold pressure is routed to the ALDA
>> to
>> raise the rod when manifold pressure increases.   I believe the engine
>> would
>> run very rich (except at max boost) with the ALDA removed.
>>
>
> Correct, at one altitude.  The ADA was introduced as altitude
> compensation, and if you ever drove a non Altitude compensated Diesel over
> I80 in CO, then you appreciate the device.  With the turbo models, the ADA
> became the ALDA.  Part of the function of the ALDA is reducing fuel as the
> car gains altitude.   Even at 4000 ft driving from Ka'u to Hilo on the
> island of Hawaii, an ADA or ALDA is appreciated.
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Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014

[Michael Canfield]

Ahhh, only ones I have seen were quite small.  If your stove is that big
and you have to stoke it every hour then you need to learn how to burn it
properly.  With well seasoned wood you should be able to build up a bed of
coals and keep a decent fire all night long with no creosote buildup to
speak of.  If you are tending a stove that big every hour you are just
sending heat up the chimney and wasting a crapload of wood.

Mike
On Feb 16, 2014 9:28 PM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> Jotul makes a lot of stoves, mine is a 318, the big one. Takes a 24" log.
> I've seen bigger stoves but those were made from 55 gallon drums.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 10:59:11 -0500
> From: Michael Canfield 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014
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> The Wonder.  I used to say they call them that because after a winter you
> wonder where all of your wood went.  Used to shove 2 face cords or so of
> wood in one every week to heat a 14x70 trailer with 12x20 well insulated
> addition.  That was a lot of work!  They are a light guage firebox that
> warps if you burn it hot.  The coal models are much better than the wood
> only but still there are much better out there.
>
>   I like the Jotul stoves but they are so small it seems impossible to get
> a long burn unless you are only heating one room.  Check out the Hitzer
> 30-95.  I think you will like it.  They are pricey new but seem pretty
> cheap on Craigslist.  I have less than a grand in two of them a triple wall
> chimney and 2 ton of coal by watching closely.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014

[Michael Canfield]

The Wonder.  I used to say they call them that because after a winter you
wonder where all of your wood went.  Used to shove 2 face cords or so of
wood in one every week to heat a 14x70 trailer with 12x20 well insulated
addition.  That was a lot of work!  They are a light guage firebox that
warps if you burn it hot.  The coal models are much better than the wood
only but still there are much better out there.

  I like the Jotul stoves but they are so small it seems impossible to get
a long burn unless you are only heating one room.  Check out the Hitzer
30-95.  I think you will like it.  They are pricey new but seem pretty
cheap on Craigslist.  I have less than a grand in two of them a triple wall
chimney and 2 ton of coal by watching closely.

Mike
On Feb 16, 2014 9:43 AM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> Which, the wonder or the Chubby?
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 09:03:36 -0500
> From: Michael Canfield 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014
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>
> They are one of the most inefficient wood/coal stoves out there.  Fed one
> of them for many years growing up.  Wouldn't have one in my house.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014

[Michael Canfield]

They are one of the most inefficient wood/coal stoves out there.  Fed one
of them for many years growing up.  Wouldn't have one in my house.

Mike
On Feb 16, 2014 8:28 AM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:

> Curt Raymond wrote:
>
>> You burn coal? My parents have a very old coal stove from a railroad
>> caboose, I remember Dad pulling it out of the remains of the caboose in the
>> woods behind some guy's house.
>>
>> We've got a Jotul woodstove but wood is kinda spendy and a lot of work
>> compared to coal. I saw a video on Vimeo about the Chubby stove
>> http://chubbystove.com/ which looked real good. Unlike my parent's stove
>> its got an ash pan and can be shaken with the door closed keeping the ash
>> under control.
>>
>> I found a place nearby that has bagged coal for $310/ton. I've read that
>> 1 ton of coal equals 3 cords of wood. I'm thinking that 2 tons of coal
>> would easily heat our house with less work than wood and cheaper than wood
>> or oil. The nice thing is that it can still burn wood, lots of people give
>> me wood so thats free heat.
>>
>> I've got Angie mostly convinced.
>>
>
> The old WonderWood/WonderCoal stoves are pretty decent, if you like the
> 1960 styling. My parents have a barely used (wood only) WonderCoal, but
> shipping to you would kill the deal.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014

[Michael Canfield]

Hi Curt,
  Yes we burn coal.  I have had an Alaska stoker upstairs for years and an
old Fisher Papa Bear wood stove downstairs.  I love wood heat but recently
stumbled on a deal on a Hitzer hopper stove.  I took out the wood stove in
favor of the Hitzer.  I like it so much I sold my Alaska and bought another
just like it for upstairs.  Hitzer model 30-95, requires no electric to
burn, crank out heat like no tomorrow if you want or will burn 24 hours on
a 30 pound hopper on low.  Shaker grates and a nice ash pan keep it neat.
2 of them are keeping a drafty 1800+ square foot farmhouse with almost no
insulation and an open12 foot balloon frame tin roof at 70 when it was 0F
out and burning about $12-15 worth of coal a day to do it.  Not cheap, but
the house is drafty, the windows suck and we were burning a crapload of
wood and not staying as warm.  We tend these twice a day and leave them
be.

I thought the Alaska was great until I got a real coal stove.  The stoker
is noisy and requires electricity.  I only need that for the fan to
circulate now so less on that bill by a little.  The Hitzer is Amish made
and I have spoken with the owner of the company who will get on the phone
and answer any questions.  They will also sell parts direct at a very good
price.  Check them out at hitzer.com

Mike
On Feb 14, 2014 9:23 PM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> You burn coal? My parents have a very old coal stove from a railroad
> caboose, I remember Dad pulling it out of the remains of the caboose in the
> woods behind some guy's house.
>
> We've got a Jotul woodstove but wood is kinda spendy and a lot of work
> compared to coal. I saw a video on Vimeo about the Chubby stove
> http://chubbystove.com/ which looked real good. Unlike my parent's stove
> its got an ash pan and can be shaken with the door closed keeping the ash
> under control.
>
> I found a place nearby that has bagged coal for $310/ton. I've read that 1
> ton of coal equals 3 cords of wood. I'm thinking that 2 tons of coal would
> easily heat our house with less work than wood and cheaper than wood or
> oil. The nice thing is that it can still burn wood, lots of people give me
> wood so thats free heat.
>
> I've got Angie mostly convinced.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 19:30:00 -0500
> From: Michael Canfield 
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> Blizzards and ice storms used to be the norm here.  We don't worry.  Small
> generator will run the pump and fridge.  Coal stoves will burn as long as
> we can shovel a path to the coal pile just outside the back door.
>
> Just a day off with the kids.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014

[Michael Canfield]

I figure there should be enough hot air there that there really is no need
for one.

Mike
On Feb 14, 2014 7:32 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I hear you Dimitri!
>>
>> Ariens all the way!  Still proudly using the 1969 model I bought in 1985.
>>  So it needs oil once in awhile.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>
> For a snowblower, Ariens is the way to go.  Avoid the MTD stuff under most
> other labels!  Mine is only 10 yrs old, but like new.
>
> But andrew is in DC, and they don't sell snowblowers in DC
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Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014

[Michael Canfield]

Blizzards and ice storms used to be the norm here.  We don't worry.  Small
generator will run the pump and fridge.  Coal stoves will burn as long as
we can shovel a path to the coal pile just outside the back door.

Just a day off with the kids.

Mike
On Feb 14, 2014 6:33 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> I've been through a number of them.  I'll take a hurricane over a
> blizzard, ice storm or tornado any day.
>
> Dan
>
> On Feb 14, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>
> >
> > That hurricane might just roll you.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > On 14/02/2014 5:28 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
> >> Thanks, Gerry, but I've done my time.  Twice.
> >>
> >> Much as I enjoy four seasons, I don't miss the lack of sunlight or the
> cold.
> >>
> >> As for hurricanes, I'll roll the dice.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I'm back!

[Michael Canfield]

Ok, so why in the world would they turn around and land where the damned
worst storm since '73 is supposed to hit?  They don't need a tire to fly
the thing somewhere safer to land right?  Wtf?
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Re: [MBZ] Hotlanta?

[Michael Canfield]

On Feb 12, 2014 11:27 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
>
> See next email. On the way now, I just know they are going to screw me
and strand me there tomorrow.

Hey Kaleb,

  WTF did you do to piss off Karma?

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Re: [MBZ] Vehicle diesel and Kerosene - Compatible?

[Michael Canfield]

Never try anything but K1 kero in a wick type heater.  If you can even get
ULSD to light you will ruin your entire house with the smell and possibly
die of carbon monoxide poisoning in the process.  The wood will keep you
warm.

Mike
On Feb 11, 2014 1:38 PM, "Larry T"  wrote:

> Hi all,
> we are expecting a big storm tomorrow evening and previous storms left
> us without power for as much as 12 days.  with the current cold weather I
> am concerned about keeping the house warm.   we have a wood stove insert
> and are getting a load of wood this afternoon as a potential backup heat
> source but we also have a Kerosene Heater that I use in the garage.  I have
> a supply of Kerosene but it will only last a day or 2 -- would it be
> acceptable to use some diesel from one of the MBs in a Kerosene heater if
> need be?   Last time the gas stations in a 15 mile radius were also without
> power
>
> Thanks -
>
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Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated bee

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On Feb 9, 2014 6:48 PM,  wrote:
>
> Mike,
> Thank you for trimming. And I hope you weren't talking about personal
grooming habits. Ooo..
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale

Roger,
  You're welcome.

Guess the other is just gonna have to be your guess.

Mike
Who is a little slow but does catch on

Wait, Hendrick, I am trimming and putting silly lines under my name.

I think I need to work on my Benz...confusion is setting in.
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Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated beef

[Michael Canfield]

Curt said:
>
>" Too much. You should have sent: "

I say; So, too lean is bad, like beef.

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Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated beef

[Michael Canfield]

I will never learn.

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Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated beef

[Michael Canfield]

ROTFLMAO, Gary!

Mike
On Feb 9, 2014 11:29 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> i just don't like the idea of possibly offending someone cause, y'know,
> that's the sort of thing that keeps me up nights with worry
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Michael Canfield  >wrote:
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> > But Gary, I thought you were into well trimmed beef?  Ummm, I better stop
> > now or I is gonna get banned.  Lol
> >
> > Mike
> > On Feb 9, 2014 11:15 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
> >
> > > y'know, i'm not that interested in your personal grooming habits
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Michael Canfield  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > There, I trimmed, is that "lean enough" to save bandwidth?
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated beef

[Michael Canfield]

But Gary, I thought you were into well trimmed beef?  Ummm, I better stop
now or I is gonna get banned.  Lol

Mike
On Feb 9, 2014 11:15 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> y'know, i'm not that interested in your personal grooming habits
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Michael Canfield  >wrote:
>
> > There, I trimmed, is that "lean enough" to save bandwidth?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated beef

[Michael Canfield]

There, I trimmed, is that "lean enough" to save bandwidth?

Mike
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Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated beef

[Michael Canfield]

Well, kinda like a Snickers bar but bigger, slimier, and apparently not
very satisfying.

Mike
On Feb 9, 2014 11:04 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

> Wtf are "beef bars"?
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:54 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com <
> arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Rancho Feeding Corp of Petaluma, a California-based company, is
> >recalling 3,950 tons of beef bars because it used "diseased and
> >unsound animals", the USDA said. The beef, which also lacked proper
> >federal inspections, was produced between January 1 and January 7
> >and is unfit for human consumption. The meat was shipped to
> >California, Florida, Illinois and Texas, the department's Food
> >Safety and Inspection Service said in a statement.
> >
> > That's a "lot" of beef.
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Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product

[Michael Canfield]

I can understand vegetarian.  Good diet makes sense.  Vegan just plain goes
too far.  Separation of church and food should be.

Mike
On Feb 7, 2014 7:51 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

> I can go vegan for a day, but it's tough to last much longer.  That being
> said, my health is decent so I don't feel the need to cure anything by
> changing my diet.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> > it's amazing how the frozen pizza, kfc snarfing, snickers bar crowd are
> so
> > concerned about the dangers of veganism
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Its like running WVO in a diesel engine, I'm not opposed to it, I'm
> > > opposed to doing it badly. Unfortunately most people do it badly...
> > >
> > > You hit the nail on the head below with "carefully constructed" most
> > > people just shovel whatever into their gaping maw and call it
> > "nutrition".
> > >
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > > Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 19:16:11 -0500
> > > From: Andrew Strasfogel 
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product
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> > > My son is an awesome physical specimen - 5'10 and 170 lbs., a martial
> > arts
> > > expert (krav maga) and vegan for the past 16 or so years.  It's amazing
> > > what a carefully constructed vegan diet can accomplish.  Equally
> amazing
> > is
> > > how many troglodytes there are who stuboornly maintain witout a shred
> of
> > > evidence that vegan diets are bad for you.
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Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product

[Michael Canfield]

Is that better?

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Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product

[Michael Canfield]

I will.  Can you come up with a way to make eggs work in place of lentils
in soup?  Boiled?  No.  Lentil soup rocks except the beans...

Just bustin on ya a bit man.  No offense meant.

Mike
On Feb 7, 2014 4:53 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> so eat eggs then
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Michael Canfield  >wrote:
>
> > Lol.  I am anti-lentil.  Almost as much as anti- chick pea.
> >
> > Mike
> > On Feb 7, 2014 4:37 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
> >
> > > i'm not being anti eggs.  i'm being pro lentils.  my whole conversation
> > was
> > > about lentils being a dan gordon kind of food
> > >
> > > i eat eggs.  i don't like their texture so much and i like stuff with
> > > fiber, so i don't eat so many of them.  really, i'm more a roughage
> junky
> > > than anything else
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Michael Canfield  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > I still say eggs for protein.  Cheap, plentiful and millions of
> > Mexicans
> > > > can't be wrong.  Mexico is the largest consumer of eggs in the world.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > On Feb 7, 2014 4:15 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > soybeans are all GMO monsanto crap, which is enough for me to keep
> > away
> > > > > from them.  they are also reputed to be estrogenic in unfermented
> > form.
> > > >  i
> > > > > think they are worth avoiding, so i do.
> > > > >
> > > > > it is well understood by the natives (at least outside of africa)
> > that
> > > > > beans are not a complete protein . note the latin types are always
> > > eating
> > > > > beans in conjunction with something else, generally rice.
> > > > >
> > > > > this fear americans have of ending up under proteined is unfounded
> to
> > > the
> > > > > point of being bizarre
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:35 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com <
> > > > > arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > According to one source soy beans are the only beans that have
> > > complete
> > > > > > protein:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "As many people are aware, beans and legumes are a very protein
> > rich
> > > > > > source of food. In addition to being high in protein, they also
> > have
> > > a
> > > > > high
> > > > > > concentration of vitamins and minerals. These nutritional
> qualities
> > > > make
> > > > > > them a popular choice for vegetarians, although other people can
> > > > benefit
> > > > > > from eating beans as well. Although only soybeans <
> > > > > > http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-soybeans.htm> contain complete
> > > > proteins
> > > > > > by themselves, all varieties have a fair amount of protein in
> every
> > > > > serving
> > > > > > although some are higher in protein than others. Beans should be
> > > cooked
> > > > > > thoroughly to avoid intestinal discomfort and its sometimes
> > socially
> > > > > > undesirable symptoms.The superpower of the bean world is
> soybeans,
> > > > which
> > > > > > contain 29 grams for every 1 cup (172 g) cooked serving. Edamame,
> > > green
> > > > > > soybeans which are picked before full maturity, have 22 grams of
> > > > protein
> > > > > in
> > > > > > every cooked 1 cup (180 g) serving. They can be added to salads
> or
> > > > eaten
> > > > > > like a snack food, or made into foods like tofu and tempeh <
> > > > > > http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-tempeh.htm>. There are lots of
> > ways
> > > to
> > > > > > use soy in cooking, but chefs should try not to go overboard, as
> it
> > > is
> > > > > > possible to eat too much of a good thing."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.wisegeek.com/which-beans-have-the-most-protein.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gerry
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 2/7/2014 3:06 PM, 

Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product

[Michael Canfield]

Lol.  I am anti-lentil.  Almost as much as anti- chick pea.

Mike
On Feb 7, 2014 4:37 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> i'm not being anti eggs.  i'm being pro lentils.  my whole conversation was
> about lentils being a dan gordon kind of food
>
> i eat eggs.  i don't like their texture so much and i like stuff with
> fiber, so i don't eat so many of them.  really, i'm more a roughage junky
> than anything else
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Michael Canfield  >wrote:
>
> > I still say eggs for protein.  Cheap, plentiful and millions of Mexicans
> > can't be wrong.  Mexico is the largest consumer of eggs in the world.
> >
> > Mike
> > On Feb 7, 2014 4:15 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
> >
> > > soybeans are all GMO monsanto crap, which is enough for me to keep away
> > > from them.  they are also reputed to be estrogenic in unfermented form.
> >  i
> > > think they are worth avoiding, so i do.
> > >
> > > it is well understood by the natives (at least outside of africa) that
> > > beans are not a complete protein . note the latin types are always
> eating
> > > beans in conjunction with something else, generally rice.
> > >
> > > this fear americans have of ending up under proteined is unfounded to
> the
> > > point of being bizarre
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:35 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com <
> > > arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > According to one source soy beans are the only beans that have
> complete
> > > > protein:
> > > >
> > > > "As many people are aware, beans and legumes are a very protein rich
> > > > source of food. In addition to being high in protein, they also have
> a
> > > high
> > > > concentration of vitamins and minerals. These nutritional qualities
> > make
> > > > them a popular choice for vegetarians, although other people can
> > benefit
> > > > from eating beans as well. Although only soybeans <
> > > > http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-soybeans.htm> contain complete
> > proteins
> > > > by themselves, all varieties have a fair amount of protein in every
> > > serving
> > > > although some are higher in protein than others. Beans should be
> cooked
> > > > thoroughly to avoid intestinal discomfort and its sometimes socially
> > > > undesirable symptoms.The superpower of the bean world is soybeans,
> > which
> > > > contain 29 grams for every 1 cup (172 g) cooked serving. Edamame,
> green
> > > > soybeans which are picked before full maturity, have 22 grams of
> > protein
> > > in
> > > > every cooked 1 cup (180 g) serving. They can be added to salads or
> > eaten
> > > > like a snack food, or made into foods like tofu and tempeh <
> > > > http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-tempeh.htm>. There are lots of ways
> to
> > > > use soy in cooking, but chefs should try not to go overboard, as it
> is
> > > > possible to eat too much of a good thing."
> > > >
> > > > http://www.wisegeek.com/which-beans-have-the-most-protein.htm
> > > >
> > > > Gerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2/7/2014 3:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> it is stated lentils are a complete protein when sprouted
> > > >>
> > > >> quinoa and buckwheat are complete proteins just simmered in boiling
> > > water
> > > >> for 15 minutes, so they are easiest and fastest
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond 
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>  They're not a complete protein though, for that you want quinoa
> which
> > > is
> > > >>> also much easier to cook. Or rather easier to cook and not make a
> > > >>> disaster
> > > >>> out of.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Curt
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 13:26:58 -0500
> > > >>> From: Gary Hurst 
> > > >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > > >>> Subject: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product
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Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product

[Michael Canfield]

I still say eggs for protein.  Cheap, plentiful and millions of Mexicans
can't be wrong.  Mexico is the largest consumer of eggs in the world.

Mike
On Feb 7, 2014 4:15 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> soybeans are all GMO monsanto crap, which is enough for me to keep away
> from them.  they are also reputed to be estrogenic in unfermented form.  i
> think they are worth avoiding, so i do.
>
> it is well understood by the natives (at least outside of africa) that
> beans are not a complete protein . note the latin types are always eating
> beans in conjunction with something else, generally rice.
>
> this fear americans have of ending up under proteined is unfounded to the
> point of being bizarre
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:35 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com <
> arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> > According to one source soy beans are the only beans that have complete
> > protein:
> >
> > "As many people are aware, beans and legumes are a very protein rich
> > source of food. In addition to being high in protein, they also have a
> high
> > concentration of vitamins and minerals. These nutritional qualities make
> > them a popular choice for vegetarians, although other people can benefit
> > from eating beans as well. Although only soybeans <
> > http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-soybeans.htm> contain complete proteins
> > by themselves, all varieties have a fair amount of protein in every
> serving
> > although some are higher in protein than others. Beans should be cooked
> > thoroughly to avoid intestinal discomfort and its sometimes socially
> > undesirable symptoms.The superpower of the bean world is soybeans, which
> > contain 29 grams for every 1 cup (172 g) cooked serving. Edamame, green
> > soybeans which are picked before full maturity, have 22 grams of protein
> in
> > every cooked 1 cup (180 g) serving. They can be added to salads or eaten
> > like a snack food, or made into foods like tofu and tempeh <
> > http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-tempeh.htm>. There are lots of ways to
> > use soy in cooking, but chefs should try not to go overboard, as it is
> > possible to eat too much of a good thing."
> >
> > http://www.wisegeek.com/which-beans-have-the-most-protein.htm
> >
> > Gerry
> >
> >
> > On 2/7/2014 3:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> >
> >> it is stated lentils are a complete protein when sprouted
> >>
> >> quinoa and buckwheat are complete proteins just simmered in boiling
> water
> >> for 15 minutes, so they are easiest and fastest
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>  They're not a complete protein though, for that you want quinoa which
> is
> >>> also much easier to cook. Or rather easier to cook and not make a
> >>> disaster
> >>> out of.
> >>>
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 13:26:58 -0500
> >>> From: Gary Hurst 
> >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >>> Subject: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product
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> >>>
> >>> With about 30% of their calories from protein, lentils have the
> >>> third-highest level of
> >>> protein
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Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product

[Michael Canfield]

And Bacon!

Mike
On Feb 7, 2014 1:58 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> Flapjacks. With lots of syrup. Just made some last weekend.
>
> Yum.
>
> > On Feb 7, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Michael Canfield 
> wrote:
> >
> > Instead of lentilsyuk.
> >
> > Mike
> >> On Feb 7, 2014 1:35 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
> >>
> >> with your lentils?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Michael Canfield  >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'll take eggs.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>> On Feb 7, 2014 1:27 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> With about 30% of their calories from protein, lentils have the
> >>>> third-highest level of
> >>>> protein<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_%28nutrient%29>,
> >>>> by weight, of any legume or nut, after
> >>>> soybeans<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soybean>and
> >>>> hemp <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp>.[3]<
> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-3>Proteins
> >>>> include the essential
> >>>> amino acids <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_amino_acid>
> >>>> isoleucine<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isoleucine>and
> >>>> lysine <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysine>, and lentils are an
> >>> essential
> >>>> source of inexpensive protein in many parts of the world, especially
> in
> >>>> West
> >>>> Asia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Asia> and the Indian
> >>>> subcontinent<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_subcontinent>,
> >>>> which have large vegetarian
> >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism>populations.
> >>>> [4] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-4> Lentils are
> >>>> deficient
> >>>> in two essential amino acids,
> >>>> methionine<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methionine>and
> >>>> cysteine <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cysteine>.[5]<
> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-5>However,
> >>>> sprouted lentils contain sufficient levels of all essential amino
> >>>> acids, including methionine and
> >>>> cysteine.[6]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-6>
> >>>>
> >>>> Lentils also contain dietary fiber<
> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber>,
> >>>> folate <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folate>, vitamin
> >>>> B1<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B1>,
> >>>> and minerals. Red (or pink) lentils contain a lower concentration of
> >>> fiber
> >>>> than green lentils (11% rather than
> >>>> 31%).[7]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-7>
> >>>> *Health* magazine has selected lentils as one of the five healthiest
> >>>> foods.[
> >>>> 8] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-Raymond_2006-8>
> >>>>
> >>>> The low levels of Readily Digestible Starch (RDS) 5%, and high levels
> >> of
> >>>> Slowly Digested Starch (SDS) 30%, make lentils of great interest to
> >>> people
> >>>> with diabetes <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes>. The remaining
> >> 65%
> >>>> of
> >>>> the starch is a resistant
> >>>> starch<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistant_starch>that is
> >>>> classified RS1,
> >>>> [9] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-9> being a high
> >>> quality
> >>>> resistant starch, which is 32% amylose<
> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amylose>
> >>>> .
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Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product

[Michael Canfield]

Instead of lentilsyuk.

Mike
On Feb 7, 2014 1:35 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> with your lentils?
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Michael Canfield  >wrote:
>
> > I'll take eggs.
> >
> > Mike
> > On Feb 7, 2014 1:27 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
> >
> > > With about 30% of their calories from protein, lentils have the
> > > third-highest level of
> > > protein<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_%28nutrient%29>,
> > > by weight, of any legume or nut, after
> > > soybeans<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soybean>and
> > > hemp <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp>.[3]<
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-3>Proteins
> > > include the essential
> > > amino acids <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_amino_acid>
> > > isoleucine<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isoleucine>and
> > > lysine <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysine>, and lentils are an
> > essential
> > > source of inexpensive protein in many parts of the world, especially in
> > > West
> > > Asia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Asia> and the Indian
> > > subcontinent<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_subcontinent>,
> > > which have large vegetarian
> > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism>populations.
> > > [4] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-4> Lentils are
> > > deficient
> > > in two essential amino acids,
> > > methionine<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methionine>and
> > > cysteine <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cysteine>.[5]<
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-5>However,
> > > sprouted lentils contain sufficient levels of all essential amino
> > > acids, including methionine and
> > > cysteine.[6]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-6>
> > >
> > > Lentils also contain dietary fiber<
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber>,
> > > folate <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folate>, vitamin
> > > B1<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B1>,
> > > and minerals. Red (or pink) lentils contain a lower concentration of
> > fiber
> > > than green lentils (11% rather than
> > > 31%).[7]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-7>
> > > *Health* magazine has selected lentils as one of the five healthiest
> > > foods.[
> > > 8] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-Raymond_2006-8>
> > >
> > > The low levels of Readily Digestible Starch (RDS) 5%, and high levels
> of
> > > Slowly Digested Starch (SDS) 30%, make lentils of great interest to
> > people
> > > with diabetes <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes>. The remaining
> 65%
> > > of
> > > the starch is a resistant
> > > starch<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistant_starch>that is
> > > classified RS1,
> > > [9] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-9> being a high
> > quality
> > > resistant starch, which is 32% amylose<
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amylose>
> > > .
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Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product

[Michael Canfield]

I'll take eggs.

Mike
On Feb 7, 2014 1:27 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> With about 30% of their calories from protein, lentils have the
> third-highest level of
> protein,
> by weight, of any legume or nut, after
> soybeansand
> hemp .[3]<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-3>Proteins
> include the essential
> amino acids 
> isoleucineand
> lysine , and lentils are an essential
> source of inexpensive protein in many parts of the world, especially in
> West
> Asia  and the Indian
> subcontinent,
> which have large vegetarian
> populations.
> [4]  Lentils are
> deficient
> in two essential amino acids,
> methionineand
> cysteine .[5]<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-5>However,
> sprouted lentils contain sufficient levels of all essential amino
> acids, including methionine and
> cysteine.[6]
>
> Lentils also contain dietary fiber<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber>,
> folate , vitamin
> B1,
> and minerals. Red (or pink) lentils contain a lower concentration of fiber
> than green lentils (11% rather than
> 31%).[7]
> *Health* magazine has selected lentils as one of the five healthiest
> foods.[
> 8] 
>
> The low levels of Readily Digestible Starch (RDS) 5%, and high levels of
> Slowly Digested Starch (SDS) 30%, make lentils of great interest to people
> with diabetes . The remaining 65%
> of
> the starch is a resistant
> starchthat is
> classified RS1,
> [9]  being a high quality
> resistant starch, which is 32% amylose<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amylose>
> .
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Re: [MBZ] Icepocalyspe

[Michael Canfield]

Biggest difference is road surface.  Southern roads are smoother and ice up
like a skating rink.

Mike
On Jan 30, 2014 3:53 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A couple of differences between snow in the South and in the North are that
>> it's often been warm prior to the snow in the South - the first ¼" of snow
>> melts on contact with the road then freezes to ice while the rest of the
>> snow covers it. This happens almost every time. Makes driving tricky. The
>> other issue is the size of the population area that is reporting the
>> gridlock, shutdowns, etc. the smaller towns/cities don't have much of an
>> issue with snow. It's the million plus cars trying to get home all at once
>> that cause the problems.
>>
>
> We often get rain turning to snow in the north. slush freezes with snow on
> top.  That  does not count for the inability of southerners to drive on
> snow.
> Do the southern cities really have that many more cars than say CHicago?
>  I doubt there is much difference, or fewer cars.
>
> Biggest differences are ill equipped and ill trained road crews and
> supervision along with masses of drivers that don't know how to drive.
>
> However with the proliferation of 4wd cars and SUVs, the latter is pretty
> ubiquitous.  In a one mile stretch along i-35 north of Des moines in every
> snow there is an average of 40 or so vehicles spun out in the ditch, and
> most are 4wd SUVs, with over half rolled.  THat is just plain stupidity.
>  Sometimes it is so bad that there is no place to slide off without hitting
> some other moron.
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Re: [MBZ] MAO NE = Mad and opinionated New England

[Michael Canfield]

And a well placed tug at that.  I think that may deserve an Attaboy!

Mike
On Jan 28, 2014 11:13 PM, "G Mann"  wrote:

> A Hendrik.. I just could not resist the chance to pull your chain a
> bit.
>
> I owe you at least one adult beverage of your choice. [kitchen pass is up
> to your missus, of course].
>
> Grant...
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Hendrik and Fay 
> wrote:
>
> > Lets not go there again.
> >
> > Hendrik
> > who sort of knows when to move on
> >
> > On 29/01/14 13:45, G Mann wrote:
> >
> >> Hendrik finds Mao hat.. it has free shipping... yes.. I see a connection
> >> there..
> >>
> >> Having a good chuckle over that ... way to go Hendrik.. :)))
> >>
> >> Grant...
> >> who is not the world king of free shipping like Hendrik..
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Icepocalyspe

[Michael Canfield]

Be there "The Day After Tomorrow".

Mike
On Jan 29, 2014 10:58 AM, "Rich Thomas" <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> We have about 1/2" of snow and some frozen stuff under that.  Region
> completely paralyzed.  Bridges closed, our islands are isolated! Send FEMA!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hazet Valve Wrenches Was: Re: 85 people

[Michael Canfield]

NY here.

Mike
On Jan 27, 2014 8:43 PM, "Mountain Man"  wrote:

> Mike wrote:
> > If you would care to start a list I need to rent a set to do my 83 when
> the
> > weather gets warm.
>
> Let's do it.
> Are you in CA? - will metal wrenches make it over the border?
> Rick can mail to you, you mail them on to next person on list, or back to
> me.
> So, we got one useful thing happening - what's next?
> ...lessee... I need... no, I gotta get rid of stuff.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Hazet Valve Wrenches Was: Re: 85 people

[Michael Canfield]

If you would care to start a list I need to rent a set to do my 83 when the
weather gets warm.  Be glad to pay postage and the cost of a couple brews
to go with those dogs.

Mike
On Jan 27, 2014 7:20 PM, "Rick Knoble"  wrote:

> On Jan 27, 2014, at 5:23 PM, "Mountain Man"  wrote:
>
> >  I
> > remember 12 years ago I routinely borrowed Hazet valve adjust wrenches
> > from a guy on Long Island.  He would ship to me, I would ship them
> > back.  So I paid the post office for passage.  That worked until I
> > found some Hazet wrenches from a dealer closeout in CA.  That kind of
> > giving rather than receiving.
>
>
> Good. Can I borrow them in the next couple weeks (if it ever warms up)?
>
> I'll buy you a couple dogs at G&J's. :)
>
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Re: [MBZ] WHAT DRIVES SUCCESS IN AMERICA?

[Michael Canfield]

On a similar note, years ago, Ford noticed they were having a lot of
trouble with Ranger transmissions going bad.  They had 2 plants building
what were supposed to be identical assemblies.  One in the US, one in
Japan.  They noticed the units from the US plant seemed to be the ones with
the most failures.
  After much research they found the problem.  When an employees in Japan
was given a print and a part was supposed to be within a range of say
.002-.005" he would strive to get as close to perfect as possible while the
US worker would be happy as long as it was within spec.

Draw your own conclusions.

Mike
On Jan 26, 2014 6:01 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

> And I from Bronx Science, my older brother from Stuyvesant.  Any other ex
> New Yorkers?
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Greg Fiorentino  >wrote:
>
> > Good article!  It was marred only by failing to mention the other
> > selective entry NYC high school:  Brooklyn Tech. HS.
> >
> > It's about the CULTURE and FAMILY!
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > Disclaimer: I'm a graduate of Brooklyn Tech.  My brother was also a Tech.
> > graduate, and daughter currently teaches math there.
> >
> > -Original Message-
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Re: [MBZ] Way beyond OT: Flying with a grown, 18 lb. cat

[Michael Canfield]

Ouch, poor Jabba. Lol. Good one Mitch.

Mike
On Jan 26, 2014 10:58 AM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:

> Craig wrote:
>
>  How small a carrier will he fit in?
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
>
>
> For an instant there, I thought you were talking about naval vessels and
> sexy parts vendors.
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Re: [MBZ] 2010 Sprinter 3500 rear axle assembly needed.

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Do you know if the Dodge axle assy is the same as the Mercedes?

Mike
On Jan 23, 2014 7:53 PM, "Russ Williams"  wrote:

> Sure did! I used Dodge Sprinter 3500 and All the US.
>
> On 1/23/2014 17:45, Mitch Haley wrote:
>
>> Russ Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Doing a search on http://car-part.com found one for a 2010 in Grand
>>> Prairie Tx. and a bunch
>>> other years around the US.
>>>
>>
>> You searching for a 3500?
>> I got a blank for 2010.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 2010 Sprinter 3500 rear axle assembly needed.

[Michael Canfield]

Thanks again!  I will be calling them as soon as I vet the VIN info so I
know I get the right one.

Mike
On Jan 23, 2014 2:29 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
wrote:

> On 1/23/2014 11:05 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
>> did you try potomac german?
>>
> http://www.pgauto.com/
> www.lkqcorp.com
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Michael Canfield > >wrote:
>>
>>  That is not what I want to hear.dealer says $7000!  Someone has
>>> to
>>> know where there is a wreck I can get the whole rear from I hope.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> On Jan 23, 2014 10:59 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
>>>
>>>  it doesn't seem anyone i deal with would be in a position to handle this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Michael Canfield >>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Any suggestions?  Gary?  What info do you need for new?  What is
>>>>>
>>>> available
>>>>
>>>>> for parts to rebuild?
>>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] 2010 Sprinter 3500 rear axle assembly needed.

[Michael Canfield]

Thanks guys.  I will check them out.

Mike
On Jan 23, 2014 11:05 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> did you try potomac german?
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Michael Canfield  >wrote:
>
> > That is not what I want to hear.dealer says $7000!  Someone has
> to
> > know where there is a wreck I can get the whole rear from I hope.
> >
> > Mike
> > On Jan 23, 2014 10:59 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
> >
> > > it doesn't seem anyone i deal with would be in a position to handle
> this
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 2010 Sprinter 3500 rear axle assembly needed.

[Michael Canfield]

That is not what I want to hear.dealer says $7000!  Someone has to
know where there is a wreck I can get the whole rear from I hope.

Mike
On Jan 23, 2014 10:59 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> it doesn't seem anyone i deal with would be in a position to handle this
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Michael Canfield  >wrote:
>
> > Any suggestions?  Gary?  What info do you need for new?  What is
> available
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[MBZ] 2010 Sprinter 3500 rear axle assembly needed.

[Michael Canfield]

Any suggestions?  Gary?  What info do you need for new?  What is available
for parts to rebuild?

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Re: [MBZ] Who wants raspberry pi?

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That is pretty cool device.  Learned something new today.

Thanks, Mike
On Jan 12, 2014 7:03 PM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:

> Craig wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:42:16 -0500 (EST) "Mitchell Haley, EA"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  $30 at microcenter:
>>> http://www.microcenter.com/product/414588/Raspberry_Pi_Model_B
>>>
>>
>>  From that page,
>>>
>>
>> Save $10.00 / Originally $39.99
>> Find online. Buy in store.
>>
>> No stores near us.
>>
>
> Must be sold out online.
> This morning you could get one shipped for $6 extra.
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Re: [MBZ] Smart Dog Drives Smart Car

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That is a riot!

Mike
On Jan 2, 2014 10:45 AM, "Craig"  wrote:

> Interesting reactions ...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=fybch3DX8c8
>
>
> Also Runaway Trailer Crash
>
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel timing

[Michael Canfield]

Agreeed Craig, I have heard the lines are too thick as well.

Mike
On Jan 2, 2014 10:35 AM, "Craig"  wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 09:04:45 -0500 Trampas Stern  wrote:
>
> > has anyone tried connecting a piezo sensor to the #1 injector line on a
> > diesel as sensor for a timing light?  That is the sensor picks up the
> > vibration in the #1 injector line to know when injector opens.
> >
> > I did a quick test and it looks to be feasible, thus figured I can not
> > be the first person to have the idea.
>
> I have heard of it before so you are not the first person to think of it.
>
> I do recall the comment that Benz injection lines have less vibration
> (impulse) than other types of vehicles, maybe because of thicker
> injection lines.
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Re: [MBZ] Psychopath test

[Michael Canfield]

45% here.

It says:

Though your conscience is in the right place you also have a pragmatic
streak and generally aren’t afraid to do your own dirty work! You’re no
shrinking violet - but no daredevil either. You generally have little
trouble seeing things from another person’s perspective but, at the same
time, are no pushover. ‘Everything in moderation – including moderation’
might sum up your approach to life.

Interesting.  What did yours say Mao?

Mike
On Dec 27, 2013 10:02 PM, "Mountain Man"  wrote:

> Another test for fun.  How psycho are we:
>
> psychopath.channel4.com/quizzes.html
>
> It comes from UK, so it is already psycho.  Shall we put the hex on
> okiebenz again this week by mentioning automobile electrical gremlins?
> - nah...
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: What Toni won on the radio.....

[Michael Canfield]

Nah.  Now she might be gettin ready for tangling with our 13 yr old
daughter who has been a wrestler for 7 years..lol

Mike
On Dec 27, 2013 5:31 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Toni is always winning something on the radio.  This time she has won a
>> membership to a local MMA Fitness club!  She is s excited.  Good thing
>> I keep her happy.lol
>>
>> My girl Rocks!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
> Are you sure she doesn't just want to learn how to kick you butt?
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[MBZ] OT: What Toni won on the radio.....

[Michael Canfield]

Toni is always winning something on the radio.  This time she has won a
membership to a local MMA Fitness club!  She is s excited.  Good thing
I keep her happy.lol

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Re: [MBZ] Seating Beads on New Tires

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Easy on the ether in a little tire like that.  Just a quick shot works
better than a big one.  Get the bottom seated, spray, step back and light a
piece of paper to toss at the gap on top.  No need to hurry a lot, the
starting fluid needs time to mix with the air and won't come out the bottom.

Works almost every time.

Mike
On Dec 27, 2013 3:45 AM, "Fmiser"  wrote:

> > Scott wrote:
> >
> > I'm going nuts trying to seat the beads on a new set of tires on
> > my lawn tractor.
>
> >  I tried a cargo strap around the tread but that doesn't even get it
> close.
> >
> > Any thoughts?  Thanks.
>
> Warm the tire as much as you can - but don't let _her_ find your
> tires in the oven.
>
> Soap up the bead and seat good.
>
> Press fit the bead to one side.
>
> Use a _big_ cargo strap, or better a chain to apply squeeze
> forces.  With the chain, use a pipe  to twist the chain tight.  It
> will take a lot of force to squeeze the tire bead out to the other
> seat.
>
> The tire mounting rigs use a blast of air to "pop" the tire open.
> You could make yourself one with an air tank and a 1-2 inch (2.5 -
> 5 cm) pipe and valve.
>
> Finally, there's the extreme method.  Spray a couple second burst of
> starter fluid in the tire (best to get it inside the tire, not just
> on the rim. Also get it all around, not just in one spot), spray a
> "fuse trail", light it, and at the moment the tire goes "fooomph!"
> apply as high a volume of air as you can through the valves stem.
> Best to have the core out to get higher flow.
>
> I'm not _advising_ this method, but I have used it successfully.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Color printers

[Michael Canfield]

Sounds interesting.  Never heard of one.  How does it do for printing
photos?

Mike
On Dec 26, 2013 1:43 PM, "Jim Cathey"  wrote:

> So, I loathe and despise inkjets, for practical reasons, but
> we kinda needed a color printer.  After much fooling around
> I picked up a used Xerox 8560 spray-on crayon printer.  It's
> fast, and prints are very punchy.  (It's huge!)  $240.
>
> Any thoughts on this matter?
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Kalebs 123

[Michael Canfield]

And looks like bulletproof glass...

Mike
On Dec 21, 2013 5:52 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> A "full auto" armrest?
>
> Option code, please!
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
>
> >
> http://www.nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/MB-Exotenforum/img/uploaded/image84410.jpg
> >
> > Hendrik
> > who did not have this option in his 123
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Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff

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If Martha wouldn't replace it then it doesn't need done.lol

I didn't catch the part about still sitting level.  Sure does seem like a
lot of work for "it's old, it might go bad, new is better".  The whole car
is a collection of used parts, why pick out ones that aren't broken to
upgrade to new?  It'll be ok, make it drive nice and be safe and call it
good.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it is the motto around here.

Mike
On Dec 22, 2013 9:51 AM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> I would agree, as even my level of nit-pickyness wouldn't mandate
> replacing adjusting bolts unless they were coming out for another job.
>
> I see a lot of the work specified here as being near overkill.  How leaky
> are the rear struts?  Is the rear suspension clunking?  If the
> self-leveling system is working properly and not bottoming out under load
> or driving conditions, there is nothing that would indicate replacement of
> the major components.  I would add that a number of people have
> successfully rebuilt leaky rear struts as well.
>
> I wonder about the amount of work going into a car of that age.  You have
> to take a step back and ask yourself if it's really necessary.
>
> I'm thinking someone's mechanic is looking to buy a new boat
>
> Dan
>
> On Dec 22, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:
>
> > Replacing the rear control arms for play?  What?  That sounds ridiculous.
> > Why wouldn't you replace just loose bushings?
> >
> > Replace camber adjusting bolts?  Unless the car is so rusty they won't
> come
> > out without damage there is no need to replace them.  They don't wear
> out.
> >
> > I don't know your mechanic but it sounds like he saw you coming and is
> > taking advantage of your lack of expertise on the subject.
> >
> > Anyone else catch that?
> >
> > Mike
> > On Dec 21, 2013 6:56 PM,  wrote:
> >
> >> OK, I am getting new Bilstein shocks in front, Sachs-Boge self leveling
> >> shocks and Febi accumulators in the rear.  The car is still perfectly
> level
> >> even when loaded.
> >>
> >> 1.  While the car is up, the shop says the castor adjustors have wear
> >> (small).  Does it make sense to do this now?  From what I have seen, it
> >> relates to the front end alignment. I am getting confused looking at
> >> parts.  Is this what I need x 2?
> >>
> >> * 1163300018 *
> >>  <http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/1163300018.jpg>  Genuine
> >> Mercedes <http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html>
> >> Alignment Caster/Camber Kit; Front Lower Inner; Eccentric Bolt Kit
> >> 2 kits per car.
> >>
> >> 2.  Deciding whether to have the ball joints done at the same time
> though
> >> there is no inspection reports of wear noted and the car does not
> present
> >> any tracking issues.  Is it possible to check anything when it is not on
> >> the lift?  Two boots and two boot kits, correct?  Just wanting to get
> >> everything tight again.  The black sedan is all done and it made a
> world of
> >> difference, but...just in time for two huge tree branches to smash the
> top
> >> in the middle.  Sig!
> >>
> >> 3.  Where is the hydraulic suspension filter located for the self
> leveling
> >> suspension in the rear?
> >>
> >> * 0021845501 *
> >>  <http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/0021845501.jpg>  Genuine
> >> Mercedes <http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html>
> >> Hydraulic Suspension Oil Filter
> >> For models with self-leveling rear suspension.
> >> 4.  I have to wait on the Rear Control Arms.  Told they have some play.
> >> Not sure how to feel this when driving.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> R
> >>
> >>
> >>  Original Message 
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines
> >> From: Gary Hurst 
> >> Date: Sat, December 21, 2013 12:38 pm
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >>
> >> also, that's just hte upper hose. the lower hose might just be available
> >> only in tructec or genuine mercedes, so you might have to get the lower
> >> one in genuine or just live with the tructec. seems i too have a special
> >> agreement with monark to sell you those hoses, but i'd probably get a
> >> genuine one if i were you if the tructec actually turns out chinese
> >>
> >>

Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff

[Michael Canfield]

Replacing the rear control arms for play?  What?  That sounds ridiculous.
Why wouldn't you replace just loose bushings?

Replace camber adjusting bolts?  Unless the car is so rusty they won't come
out without damage there is no need to replace them.  They don't wear out.

I don't know your mechanic but it sounds like he saw you coming and is
taking advantage of your lack of expertise on the subject.

Anyone else catch that?

Mike
On Dec 21, 2013 6:56 PM,  wrote:

> OK, I am getting new Bilstein shocks in front, Sachs-Boge self leveling
> shocks and Febi accumulators in the rear.  The car is still perfectly level
> even when loaded.
>
> 1.  While the car is up, the shop says the castor adjustors have wear
> (small).  Does it make sense to do this now?  From what I have seen, it
> relates to the front end alignment. I am getting confused looking at
> parts.  Is this what I need x 2?
>
> * 1163300018 *
>     Genuine
> Mercedes 
> Alignment Caster/Camber Kit; Front Lower Inner; Eccentric Bolt Kit
>  2 kits per car.
>
> 2.  Deciding whether to have the ball joints done at the same time though
> there is no inspection reports of wear noted and the car does not present
> any tracking issues.  Is it possible to check anything when it is not on
> the lift?  Two boots and two boot kits, correct?  Just wanting to get
> everything tight again.  The black sedan is all done and it made a world of
> difference, but...just in time for two huge tree branches to smash the top
> in the middle.  Sig!
>
> 3.  Where is the hydraulic suspension filter located for the self leveling
> suspension in the rear?
>
> * 0021845501 *
>     Genuine
> Mercedes 
> Hydraulic Suspension Oil Filter
>  For models with self-leveling rear suspension.
> 4.  I have to wait on the Rear Control Arms.  Told they have some play.
> Not sure how to feel this when driving.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> R
>
>
>   Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines
> From: Gary Hurst 
> Date: Sat, December 21, 2013 12:38 pm
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>
> also, that's just hte upper hose. the lower hose might just be available
> only in tructec or genuine mercedes, so you might have to get the lower
> one in genuine or just live with the tructec. seems i too have a special
> agreement with monark to sell you those hoses, but i'd probably get a
> genuine one if i were you if the tructec actually turns out chinese
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM,  wrote:
>
> > Morning All, I am ready to replace the oil cooler hoses on the wagon. I
> > was price shopping, and came across these.
> >
> >
> >
> https://mercedessource.com/store/116-123-617-turbo-diesel-upper-oil-cooler-hose-instructions
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with these? The German company?
> >
> > Looking for recommendations.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > R
> > 85 300TD Wagon 230,000 miles
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Tire blowouts [hey Kaleb, you and your spamblocker can go emamuqur yourselves]

[Michael Canfield]

Blizzaks were the only tire that would keep my 62 Buick Special wagon on
the road in the snow...

Nokia Hakkepellitta(sp?) are almost as good but not quite as soft.

Mike
On Dec 20, 2013 12:02 AM, "Alex Chamberlain" 
wrote:

> On Dec 16, 2013 2:54 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > blizzaks are great.
> >
>
> Yep, nothing but Blizzaks for me when it comes to serious winter tires.
> I've experimented with other brands in the "studless snow/ice" category,
> but no other maker seems to be able to copy the magic Blizzak formula.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

[Michael Canfield]

Yeah, that was the whole point of the ad.  Supposed to make backing
easier.  I say a good driver should be able to back up in a stright line on
a perfectly level surface without computer help.  I can back a 40 foot van
in a straight line for a looong ways with an old worn out
Freightshaker...lolol

Mike
On Dec 19, 2013 10:59 PM, "Fmiser"  wrote:

> > > > Mitch wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
> > > >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10
>
> > > Craig wrote:
> > >
> > > And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight
> > > backwards, particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a
> > > trailer?
>
> > Dieselhead wrote:
> >
> > Nuttin easier.  Run it backwards.  "Photoshop"
>
> Maybe.  But I'm pretty certain those trucks were being driven in
> reverse.  Note where the drivers are looking.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah

[Michael Canfield]

Notice the semi stays in line while the straight job pulls away.  Be near
impossible the other way around.

Mike
On Dec 19, 2013 7:05 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley  wrote:
>
> > Remember the reversing Volvo truck split?
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10
>
> And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards,
> particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer?
>
>
> > Chuck Norris version:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-D1KVIuvjA
>
> Definitely Photoshopped.
>
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Re: [MBZ] If people actually pay this price I have a gold mine out back

[Michael Canfield]

The wrinkled rear 1/4 from severe rust, a rear end collision, or, more than
likely, from pushing it around with a loader is a huge selling point for me.

Make my straight cd in the back yard worth a mint.  $500 on it and it's
still here.

Mike
On Dec 9, 2013 9:34 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> That'll buff out.  Really.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
> >
> > http://loz.craigslist.org/cto/4235855736.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery

[Michael Canfield]

Optima batteries are awesome.  Expensive but none more durable in my
experience.

Mike
On Dec 10, 2013 4:33 PM, "clay"  wrote:

> Ask FLAPS to get you a Group 49 battery with the at least 850CCA.  Optima
> are really good
>
> clay
>
> On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:11 AM, John Ingram wrote:
>
> > Hello Everyone.
> > I am sorry if this has been covered recently but I need a replacement
> battery for my 83 240D.  The Interstate battery that is in it has lasted a
> long time and I would like to simply replace it.  However, I find that the
> battery listed on the Interstate website is only 720CCA, the old one was
> 850CCA.  The old tired diesel needs every bit of help getting started.
>  Does anyone sell a battery that will fit correctly in the car with at
> least 850CCA?
> > If this topic has been covered recently please tell me when and I will
> look it up.
> >
> > John I.
> > 83 240D 309K
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery

[Michael Canfield]

They have other ones..

Mike
On Dec 10, 2013 12:44 PM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:

> Michael Canfield wrote:
>
>> Order online through Advance auto, use big online discount coupon found
>> with google, pay with debit card, pick up in store.  Will be under a $100.
>>
>
> Lately the $50 off on $100 order coupons have been limited to the first
> 1000 buyers and they keep expiring an hour or two before I find out about
> them.
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery

[Michael Canfield]

Order online through Advance auto, use big online discount coupon found
with google, pay with debit card, pick up in store.  Will be under a $100.

Mike
On Dec 10, 2013 11:11 AM, "John Ingram"  wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
> I am sorry if this has been covered recently but I need a replacement
> battery for my 83 240D.  The Interstate battery that is in it has lasted a
> long time and I would like to simply replace it.  However, I find that the
> battery listed on the Interstate website is only 720CCA, the old one was
> 850CCA.  The old tired diesel needs every bit of help getting started.
>  Does anyone sell a battery that will fit correctly in the car with at
> least 850CCA?
> If this topic has been covered recently please tell me when and I will
> look it up.
>
> John I.
> 83 240D 309K
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Re: [MBZ] Grapes

[Michael Canfield]

Rust and grapes are like weeds here in upstate NY.  Wild grapes grow so
well they take over trees.

Mike
On Nov 29, 2013 10:24 PM, "Fmiser"  wrote:

> > > Peter wrote:
> > >
> > > Ha ha, I dug up mature grape vines and replanted them because
> > > my new neighbor doesn't want them and I do.
>
> > Craig wrote:
> >
> > I have tried grapes here, but have had no success.
>
> > Frustrating.
>
> Yeah.  Sounds like your attempts with tomatoes too.  But living in
> the desert of NM where there isn't soil or water makes growing
> _anything_ tough.  Just look at what nature grows...
>
> -- Philip, living where grapes grow - but so does rust on the cars.
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

[Michael Canfield]

Stop driving that car!  Do not drain the oil!  Save the jugs and do not
refill them at any cost!  You need them for evidence.  Get a lawyer and sue
the hell out of them for restocking returned, used motor oil.  Rotella has
a foil seal as well and NO OIL is BLACK and CHUNKY out of the jug!  Period!

They owe you a new engine and damages for unknown contamination and
damage.

Mike
On Nov 23, 2013 8:54 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

> I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened the jug
> of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency.  As
> I poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF?  I
> called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel
> oil.  Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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Re: [MBZ] I can't think of a crappier way to start the day….

[Michael Canfield]

Is there more to this?

Mike
On Nov 23, 2013 12:13 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

>
>
> ..than walking in to work and turning around to see your 300SEL in flames.
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Re: [MBZ] Tar (Curt's tractor fronts)

[Michael Canfield]

The Amish folks have come up with all varieties of steel wheels.  Rubber
isolated with steel traction area, solid steel with rubber traction area,
and the list goes on.  They are great until you get on slippery sidehills
or frozen ground, then they get about as much traction as a toboggan.

I think the foam filled tires are a better solution for a work tractor that
gets used for many purposes all year long.

Mike
On Nov 23, 2013 6:45 AM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> Neat idea but:
> A. I dont hsve any
> B. Steels can't go down the paved road
>
> The foam should fix us right up, Dad has foam filled tires on everything
> at the landfill and they work our good. Enough flex and long lived.
>
> Curt
>
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 20:04:30 -0700
> From: Craig 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tar (Curt's tractor fronts)
> Message-ID: <20131122200430.6c4b924230a84aa3a583c...@pisquared.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:01:46 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond <
> curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Since we'll never be farming for real (I don't have plans to anyway) >
> the fields get mowed every couple years until we get the trees growing >
> good so the punji sticks will continue to plauge us. I'd put several > cans
> of slime in each tire to no real effect...
>
> So how about the steel wheels tractors used to have?
>
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Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joint Tool

[Michael Canfield]

That is pretty slick.  Looks like a good reason to go buy a HF press.

Mike
On Nov 21, 2013 4:01 PM, "Scott Ritchey"  wrote:

>
> I carried the bare knuckle, new BJ, and tool to a local shop today.  This
> shop has a 20 ton press.  The new ball joint pressed into the knuckle
> slicker than snot.  It was almost too easy.  We simply aligned the tool
> with
> the press frame by eyeball and pumped the bottle jack until it was in.  I
> previously scrubbed the knuckle, filed out the burrs from the vice
> (removing
> the old BJ) and lightly greased the BJ hole and spindle.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott
> Ritchey
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:49 PM
> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
> Subject: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joint Tool
>
>
> The $100 eBay ball joint tool arrived today.  It looks nicely made and
> finished.  The drift mates nicely with the contour on the underside of the
> ball joint, although I previously pounded out the old joint using a big
> socket.  The tool fits snugly over the new ball joint boot without damaging
> the boot (also holding the new BJ securely in the tool).  The cutouts seem
> to provide good clearance between the knuckle and the tool when the new BJ
> is square with the knuckle.  I plan to go to a local shade-tree mechanic
> tomorrow and press in the first joint; I'll report back afterward.
>
> Here's a link to the directions that came with the tool.  It works with 123
> and 126 BJs and includes a spacer for 220s.
>
>
> http://pt709.synology.me/126_ball_joint_tool.pdf
>
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Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill

[Michael Canfield]

Hey Grant,
  Do you mind if my wife shares your comparison on her facebook page?

Mike
On Nov 21, 2013 12:12 PM, "G Mann"  wrote:

> *Putting things in perspective…*
>
>
> *WWII and the Website*
>
> *March 21st 2010 to October 1 2013 is 3 years, 6 months, 10 days.*
>
>
> *December 7, 1941 to May 8, 1945 is 3 years, 5 months, 1 day.*
>
>
> *What this means is that in the time we were attacked at Pearl Harbor to
> the day Germany surrendered is not enough time for this federal government
> to build a working webpage.*
>
>
> *Mobilization of millions, building tens of thousands of tanks, planes,
> jeeps, subs, cruisers, destroyers, torpedoes, millions upon millions of
> guns, bombs, ammo, etc.  Turning the tide in North Africa, invading Italy,
> D-Day, Battle of the Bulge, Race to Berlin - all while we were also
> fighting the Japanese in the Pacific!!*
>
>
>
>
>
> *And they can't build a webpage.  think about that !!..
> No, really think about that. Do we have an incompetent government employing
> idiots.or what?*
>
> *Seems Donald Trumps tagline phrase suits best:  "You're Fired"*
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>
> > Independent of whatever political views one might have on the whole mess,
> > this article is interesting if only for the graphic from the McKinsey
> > report.  THis is consistent with my (dated) understanding of software (or
> > any kind really) projects -- PADDIS -- plan analyse design develop
> > implement support, with some loops in there.  Looks like they started
> > somewhere in the middle and never got to the end, understandably.  After
> > nearly $700M on a sole-source contract with politically-tied principals,
> > 60-70% "complete" after 3 years.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 11/20/13 8:18 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
> >
> >> Alex wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ha! I'm not touching that one.
> >>>
> >> Tim - thanks for the link to ars article.  It seems that politically
> >> the complexity of the new systems should have been highlighted as
> >> failure happened early in October instead of now.  Massive
> >> infrastructure, dependencies, etc are understandable and could have
> >> been a reasonable explanation to the media about the seeming system
> >> failure.  Biz extension could have been granted without the buzz the
> >> failure produced, I would guess.  It is a complex system linking
> >> market insco with gov't.
> >>
> >> Does refuse2enroll still play in these environs?
> >> I am odd man out here, but with zero resources and another year away
> >> from funding by gov't dictates I will be refusing.  Take the high road
> >> and realize death ain't the bad thing healthcare makes it out to be.
> >> We all gotta get there but being in good health makes that unrealistic
> >> for me anytime soon...
> >> mao
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Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill

[Michael Canfield]

Grant I love the way you put things into perspective..

Mike
On Nov 21, 2013 12:12 PM, "G Mann"  wrote:

> *Putting things in perspective…*
>
>
> *WWII and the Website*
>
> *March 21st 2010 to October 1 2013 is 3 years, 6 months, 10 days.*
>
>
> *December 7, 1941 to May 8, 1945 is 3 years, 5 months, 1 day.*
>
>
> *What this means is that in the time we were attacked at Pearl Harbor to
> the day Germany surrendered is not enough time for this federal government
> to build a working webpage.*
>
>
> *Mobilization of millions, building tens of thousands of tanks, planes,
> jeeps, subs, cruisers, destroyers, torpedoes, millions upon millions of
> guns, bombs, ammo, etc.  Turning the tide in North Africa, invading Italy,
> D-Day, Battle of the Bulge, Race to Berlin - all while we were also
> fighting the Japanese in the Pacific!!*
>
>
>
>
>
> *And they can't build a webpage.  think about that !!..
> No, really think about that. Do we have an incompetent government employing
> idiots.or what?*
>
> *Seems Donald Trumps tagline phrase suits best:  "You're Fired"*
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>
> > Independent of whatever political views one might have on the whole mess,
> > this article is interesting if only for the graphic from the McKinsey
> > report.  THis is consistent with my (dated) understanding of software (or
> > any kind really) projects -- PADDIS -- plan analyse design develop
> > implement support, with some loops in there.  Looks like they started
> > somewhere in the middle and never got to the end, understandably.  After
> > nearly $700M on a sole-source contract with politically-tied principals,
> > 60-70% "complete" after 3 years.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 11/20/13 8:18 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
> >
> >> Alex wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ha! I'm not touching that one.
> >>>
> >> Tim - thanks for the link to ars article.  It seems that politically
> >> the complexity of the new systems should have been highlighted as
> >> failure happened early in October instead of now.  Massive
> >> infrastructure, dependencies, etc are understandable and could have
> >> been a reasonable explanation to the media about the seeming system
> >> failure.  Biz extension could have been granted without the buzz the
> >> failure produced, I would guess.  It is a complex system linking
> >> market insco with gov't.
> >>
> >> Does refuse2enroll still play in these environs?
> >> I am odd man out here, but with zero resources and another year away
> >> from funding by gov't dictates I will be refusing.  Take the high road
> >> and realize death ain't the bad thing healthcare makes it out to be.
> >> We all gotta get there but being in good health makes that unrealistic
> >> for me anytime soon...
> >> mao
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Re: [MBZ] [Banned_misfits] My, but I'm one boring driver.

[Michael Canfield]

In case of the 16th ammendment.

Mike
On Nov 20, 2013 10:13 AM, "G Mann"  wrote:

> Apparently, 4th Amendment of Constitution is not taught in schools now.. or
> read in Congress, or by police agencies..
> To bad.. welcome to the total nanny state, where you will be given what the
> state determines you need or want, and controls what you do..
>
> Oh... wait... there is that pesky 2nd Amendment that keeps the slaves
> armed.. how inconvenient... hmmm  ... I wonder why the founding fathers
> included that???
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Scott Ritchey 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > My Nuvi certainly does have A track file and even displays the track
> > history
> > if that display is enabled.  You can manually delete the track history
> too
> > but I don't know if the data is actually deleted before it is
> overwritten.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> > > Penoff
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:21 PM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned_misfits] My, but I'm one boring driver.
> > >
> > > I don't think mist of the automotive GPS' leave breadcrumbs, but my
> > > handheld Garmin does.
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill

[Michael Canfield]

"Cuz it's worth more than scrap price now." says the builder.

Mike
On Nov 18, 2013 12:38 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 09:50:39 -0500 Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
> > I don't have the link, but search eBay for this auction number:
> >
> > 281208114204
> >
> > Here's the link to the mobile site:
> >
> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/281208114204?kw=281208114204
>
> Actually, clicking on the link works on a desktop, too.
>
> One question: Why?
>
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Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill

[Michael Canfield]

Of my girl?  Now Andrew.Hahahahahha!

Mike
On Nov 18, 2013 11:44 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

> Pictures?
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Michael Canfield  >wrote:
>
> > Heck no.  I am keepin' my girlfriend..been together over 12 years and
> > she still rocks!
> >
> > Mike
> > On Nov 18, 2013 10:25 AM, "Rich Thomas" <
> >  richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I'll offer you $20k for the vehicles AND your girlfriend, or maybe you
> > > would pay me $20k to take the whole package?
> > >
> > > hmmm, either way it could be a bad deal for me...
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/18/13 10:19 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:
> > >
> > >> Geez Rich,
> > >>I have a diesel f350 and a 78 cd...bad body on the Ford,
> bad
> > >> engine and trans in the coupe...I'll take $5k for the parts and
> the
> > >> idea..lolol
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >> On Nov 18, 2013 10:16 AM, "Rich Thomas" <
> > >> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  " Was offered $20k back in 2002 in California but didn't have my
> > >>> girlfriend at the time."
> > >>>
> > >>> You know though, if you have some POS old Merc sitting in a field,
> and
> > a
> > >>> rusted out old truck, and a torch and a welder...
> > >>>
> > >>> --R
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 11/18/13 9:50 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  I don't have the link, but search eBay for this auction number:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 281208114204
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Here's the link to the mobile site:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://m.ebay.com/itm/281208114204?kw=281208114204
> > >>>>
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Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill

[Michael Canfield]

Heck no.  I am keepin' my girlfriend..been together over 12 years and
she still rocks!

Mike
On Nov 18, 2013 10:25 AM, "Rich Thomas" <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> I'll offer you $20k for the vehicles AND your girlfriend, or maybe you
> would pay me $20k to take the whole package?
>
> hmmm, either way it could be a bad deal for me...
>
> --R
>
>
> On 11/18/13 10:19 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:
>
>> Geez Rich,
>>I have a diesel f350 and a 78 cd...bad body on the Ford, bad
>> engine and trans in the coupe...I'll take $5k for the parts and the
>> idea..lolol
>>
>> Mike
>> On Nov 18, 2013 10:16 AM, "Rich Thomas" <
>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>>
>>  " Was offered $20k back in 2002 in California but didn't have my
>>> girlfriend at the time."
>>>
>>> You know though, if you have some POS old Merc sitting in a field, and a
>>> rusted out old truck, and a torch and a welder...
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/18/13 9:50 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>>>
>>>  I don't have the link, but search eBay for this auction number:
>>>>
>>>> 281208114204
>>>>
>>>> Here's the link to the mobile site:
>>>>
>>>> http://m.ebay.com/itm/281208114204?kw=281208114204
>>>>
>>>> Wow.
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Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill

[Michael Canfield]

Geez Rich,
  I have a diesel f350 and a 78 cd...bad body on the Ford, bad
engine and trans in the coupe...I'll take $5k for the parts and the
idea..lolol

Mike
On Nov 18, 2013 10:16 AM, "Rich Thomas" <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> " Was offered $20k back in 2002 in California but didn't have my
> girlfriend at the time."
>
> You know though, if you have some POS old Merc sitting in a field, and a
> rusted out old truck, and a torch and a welder...
>
> --R
>
>
> On 11/18/13 9:50 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>
>> I don't have the link, but search eBay for this auction number:
>>
>> 281208114204
>>
>> Here's the link to the mobile site:
>>
>> http://m.ebay.com/itm/281208114204?kw=281208114204
>>
>> Wow.
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Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill

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Maybe he should see what they offer for the girlfriend...

Mike
On Nov 18, 2013 10:15 AM, "Michael Canfield"  wrote:

> The ghost flames make the whole deal.  It would be way too much fun to
> show up at a fancy car show with that and a can of turtle wax.
>
> Mike
> On Nov 18, 2013 10:07 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
>
>> You can't unsee that
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't have the link, but search eBay for this auction number:
>> >
>> > 281208114204
>> >
>> > Here's the link to the mobile site:
>> >
>> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/281208114204?kw=281208114204
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill

[Michael Canfield]

The ghost flames make the whole deal.  It would be way too much fun to show
up at a fancy car show with that and a can of turtle wax.

Mike
On Nov 18, 2013 10:07 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

> You can't unsee that
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >
> > I don't have the link, but search eBay for this auction number:
> >
> > 281208114204
> >
> > Here's the link to the mobile site:
> >
> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/281208114204?kw=281208114204
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 Crew Cab Ford F350 Turbo Diesel Auto w/ shiny extras $3500

[Michael Canfield]

Powerstroke IS an International engine as well.  Could be either in 94 but
looks like a Powerstroke badge on the side.

Mike
On Nov 17, 2013 12:05 AM, "Fmiser"  wrote:

> > Kevin wrote:
> >
> > If it's an 1994 turbo diesel with an automatic transmission, it's
> > most likely the IDI 7.3L turbo diesel. The power strokes in late
> > 94 or all equipped with five speed manny trannies.
>
> Ooh.  It did say "International engine", so, yea, probably a turbo
> IDI.  _Good_ engine.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 Crew Cab Ford F350 Turbo Diesel Auto w/ shiny extras $3500

[Michael Canfield]

Looks like it's a Powerstroke.  They are bulletproof for the most part. Not
as efficient as a Cummins but if ya like a V8 that can turn 3k rpm's at 20
pounds of boost while merging into traffic at 65mph loaded a Powerstroke
sure will make ya grin.  Mine is a 97 with 215k on it.  Original automatic
transmission still going strong.

Mike
On Nov 16, 2013 7:17 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

> How good are the engines and transmissions in those? A long bed crew cab 1
> ton that is not a dually appeals to me.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 16, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Michael Canfield 
> wrote:
> >
> > Typical Ford Twin I Beam suspension.  They all eat tires.
> >
> > Mike
> >> On Nov 16, 2013 5:43 PM, "M. Mitchell Marmel" 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Those front tyres don't exactly fill me with confidence.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Looks like this might be a decent deal
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 Crew Cab Ford F350 Turbo Diesel Auto w/ shiny extras $3500

[Michael Canfield]

Typical Ford Twin I Beam suspension.  They all eat tires.

Mike
On Nov 16, 2013 5:43 PM, "M. Mitchell Marmel"  wrote:

> Those front tyres don't exactly fill me with confidence.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  >wrote:
>
> > Looks like this might be a decent deal
> >
> > http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/4173601893.html
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Re: [MBZ] I Hate When That Happens

[Michael Canfield]

That's repairable...I have hit deer and had cars look worse than that.
A come-a-long, a solid anchor point, a big hammer and a few new exterior
parts.  Bet it still drives straightGotta love it!

Mike
On Nov 16, 2013 9:49 AM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> 'Hope nobody was hurt.  'Looks much like my '80 240D did after uninsured
> driver on a ragged pickup pulled across in front of SWMBO in '95.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Rick Knoble" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:21 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] I Hate When That Happens
>
>
>  Kid wrecked his car today. Someone cut him off, bad. Guy claimed he
>> didn't see him. Oops.
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jd0db0jhm9ie382/fleSjcEDy0
>>
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Re: [MBZ] '78 240D Block Heater

[Michael Canfield]

I would use good penetrating oil, tap it lightly a lot, spray more, warm it
up if you can get it running first, repeat, rinse and condition.  Oh,
wait.lol

Mike
On Nov 15, 2013 10:05 AM, "Richard Hattaway" 
wrote:

> You will need all the room you can muster.  Don't remember for sure about
> the starter, but the intake manifold is not a big deal to pull and it'll
> help a bunch.
>
> The thing looks like it's just screwed in there, but in truth there are
> three million molecules of bust ass in there devoted to keeping you from
> removing it..  make sure the tool fits so you don't round off the hex.  A
> crescent wrench won't do it.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, November 15, 2013 8:22 AM, Larry T 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Ya'll,I replaced my electric cord with a new one and the heater
> still is not working.  I assume a new one is called for
>
> How much trouble to R&R the heater?  It's looks like a simple unscrew to
> remove - reverse to install.   Does the starter need to be removed?
> It's hard to see under the intake manifold -- does the manifold need to
> come off?
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

[Michael Canfield]

Nothing about it on Snopes.

Mike
On Nov 8, 2013 12:05 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> Someone needs to check this out at Snopes.com.
>
> Sounds seriously bogus to me.
>
> > On Nov 8, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Michael Canfield 
> wrote:
> >
> > Craig,
> >  Wow.  That is terrifying!  We have no rights any more.
> >
> > Mike
> >> On Nov 4, 2013 3:38 PM, "Craig"  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:51:55 -0500 Michael Canfield  >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I found this on Craigslist and got doing some reading.  The post has
> >>> been flagged but I copied it from my Craigsnotifica app.  What they
> >>> appear to be doing seems almost supported by past practice..
> >>>
> >>> What do you folks think of this and the laws supporting it?
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>
> >> Certainly there is precedent of police departments seizing property that
> >> was "used in the committing of a crime", with all the unscrupulous
> >> extensions, but having individual officers do that and say, "Felons and
> >> Undocumented persons welcome!" seems somewhat beyond the pale. In
> >> addition,
> >>
> >> See http://www.ij.org/inequitablejustice
> >>
> >> See also
> >>
> >>
> http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Articles/USSCDeclaresWarOnPeople.htm
> >> which says a lot that is rather chilling.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

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Craig,
  Wow.  That is terrifying!  We have no rights any more.

Mike
On Nov 4, 2013 3:38 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:51:55 -0500 Michael Canfield 
> wrote:
>
> > I found this on Craigslist and got doing some reading.  The post has
> > been flagged but I copied it from my Craigsnotifica app.  What they
> > appear to be doing seems almost supported by past practice..
> >
> > What do you folks think of this and the laws supporting it?
> >
> > Mike
>
> Certainly there is precedent of police departments seizing property that
> was "used in the committing of a crime", with all the unscrupulous
> extensions, but having individual officers do that and say, "Felons and
> Undocumented persons welcome!" seems somewhat beyond the pale. In
> addition,
>
> See http://www.ij.org/inequitablejustice
>
> See also
>
> http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Articles/USSCDeclaresWarOnPeople.htm
> which says a lot that is rather chilling.
>
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater

[Michael Canfield]

Oh, first class and priority travel on the same trucks and planes
together.usually no difference other than cost.

Mike
On Nov 7, 2013 1:30 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> i've already offered the spectacular 20 dollars shipped deal as i figure it
> has to be less than 13 oz and can just be thrown into first class mail ,.
> and if not, well, whoops, priority mail isn't going to cost me more than
> maybe $7 for this
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
>
> > Its $16 from Dr. Fatty, why bother with used?
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:32:14 -0500
> > From: Larry T 
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater
> > Message-ID: <527aed9e.70...@comcast.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > Thanks Mike!  Appreciate that. Let me know the cost & I can Paypal you
> > if that's ok?
> >
> > I was going to try and splice the wire ends but after close inspection
> > it's all falling apart!
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Larry
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Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater

[Michael Canfield]

Heck, no sense in me looking at a used one for that price.  I was thinkin'
$15 shipped but might better have new for the 5 bucks.

Mike

Mike
On Nov 7, 2013 1:30 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> i've already offered the spectacular 20 dollars shipped deal as i figure it
> has to be less than 13 oz and can just be thrown into first class mail ,.
> and if not, well, whoops, priority mail isn't going to cost me more than
> maybe $7 for this
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
>
> > Its $16 from Dr. Fatty, why bother with used?
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:32:14 -0500
> > From: Larry T 
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater
> > Message-ID: <527aed9e.70...@comcast.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > Thanks Mike!  Appreciate that. Let me know the cost & I can Paypal you
> > if that's ok?
> >
> > I was going to try and splice the wire ends but after close inspection
> > it's all falling apart!
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Larry
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Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater

[Michael Canfield]

I have a 79 CD and an 83 TD that should have them.

Mike
On Nov 6, 2013 9:15 PM, "Fmiser"  wrote:

> > LarryT wrote:
> >
> > Anyone have a W123 Block Heater cable?  Mine seems to be falling
> > apart from the heat...  I was thinking about getting some wiring
> > and splicing it into the plugs at each end but thought the real
> > deal shouldn't be too expensive...  Right?
>
> Is this for the '78?.  The '85s I have use a different heater with
> a different cord.  Just for reference. (and another reason NOT to
> have an '85)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater

[Michael Canfield]

Sure thing Larry.  I will send ya a message in the morning.  Paypal is good
with me.

Mike
On Nov 6, 2013 8:32 PM, "Larry T"  wrote:

> Thanks Mike!  Appreciate that. Let me know the cost & I can Paypal you if
> that's ok?
>
> I was going to try and splice the wire ends but after close inspection
> it's all falling apart!
>
> Thanks again,
> Larry
>
>
> On 11/6/2013 7:58 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:
>
>> I probably have one or two.  Can look tomorrow.
>>
>> Mike
>> On Nov 6, 2013 7:09 PM, "LarryT"  wrote:
>>
>>  Anyone have a W123 Block Heater cable?  Mine seems to be falling apart
>>> from the heat...  I was thinking about getting some wiring and splicing
>>> it
>>> into the plugs at each end but thought the real deal shouldn't be too
>>> expensive...  Right?
>>>
>>> Kaleb - Got a good used one??
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater

[Michael Canfield]

I probably have one or two.  Can look tomorrow.

Mike
On Nov 6, 2013 7:09 PM, "LarryT"  wrote:

> Anyone have a W123 Block Heater cable?  Mine seems to be falling apart
> from the heat...  I was thinking about getting some wiring and splicing it
> into the plugs at each end but thought the real deal shouldn't be too
> expensive...  Right?
>
> Kaleb - Got a good used one??
>
> Larry
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[MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?

[Michael Canfield]

I found this on Craigslist and got doing some reading.  The post has been
flagged but I copied it from my Craigsnotifica app.  What they appear to be
doing seems almost supported by past practice..

What do you folks think of this and the laws supporting it?

Mike

CL syracuse all for sale / wanted free stuff
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Re: [MBZ] Roger

[Michael Canfield]

Well that sucks to hear.  Thanks for posting that for us.

Mike
On Oct 31, 2013 4:23 PM, "Mountain Man"  wrote:

> Here is the news:
>
> "I’m very sorry to report that Roger passed away on September 16, 2013.  He
> had been battling several health issues stemming from the return of
>  prostate cancer from 10 years prior.  He had not been corresponding via
> e-mail for about 8 months prior to his death.  He fought a courageous
> battle and when the time came he made an equally courageous decision to end
> the fight on his own terms.A wonderful memorial service was held
> on September
> 29 here in Seattle with about 90 people attending.  Most were long time
> PCA/PNWR members who contributed some great stories of Roger’s time in the
> Club.  In honor of his 50-year service to PNWR, the Club is naming our
> annual Porsche Pusher Award for him."
>
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone near Madison, OH? Scammer problem.

[Michael Canfield]

Banks Big Hoss chip.  Everything Banks sells has an EPA certification.

Mike
On Oct 29, 2013 11:20 AM, "Jim Cathey"  wrote:

> The chip is EPA certified so what would they have to do with it?
>>
>
> _They'll_ be the judge of that, thank you!  Not all chips for
> vehicles are certified, so this situation's probably EPA-free.
> Me?  Paranoid?  :-)
>
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