Re: [MBZ] nails in the coffin
The Prius owner took his car to the dealer and was told it was NOT on the recall list. Nothing was done to the Prius. Why do drivers continue to drive when this happens instead of shutting off the vehicle (without locking the wheel) and then pulling over? I'm going to have to educate my family when I get home... Mike From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 11:57:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] nails in the coffin There was a scare story on the radio this morning about a Pious that unintendedly accelerated in Collyfawnya AFTER having the fix, was up to 90mph, a cop was following the guy and got in front of it to stop it until the guy could somehow shut it off. I guess with those things, the brakes, engine/motor, shutoff is all computer controlled, so I could see that happening, though why just with one car and not all of them? --R On 3/9/2010 11:53 AM, R A Bennell wrote: I read this morning that insurance companies are raising rates on Toyotas, and that Consumer Reports is not recommending Toyotas. That should just about do them in since their primary customers were the sort of middle class smucks who bought them because CR said they should and they just knew they were being smart and frugal at the same time. Good re-sale value etc. Now Toyota is advertising that young people want them. Good luck! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who was it that replaced their #1 rod?
All the rods have to be with a certain number of grams in weight from each other. I can't remember what it is exactly. My book is a couple of thousand miles away. Did you remove one of the others to balance the new one? I reused the head bolts on my OM603.961 rebuild and they were all within spec. A few months later I found coolant in my #5 cylinder. I don't know if it was the head gasket (it looks good) or head bolts. Mike LaFleur From: dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: davesl...@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 5:10:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who was it that replaced their #1 rod? I replaced just the #1 rod at 180,000 miles. It's just over 228,000 now. So far, so good. That was on my 94 S350. Pulled engine and trans as a unit. Two or three of the head bolts were out of spec and replaced. Others were okay. You have to be prudent on what items you replace or it gets way expensive way fast. -Dave Walton On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I cant remember. Did you just replace the 1 rod? Was this on a 126 or a 140? If 140, were you able to do it with the engine in the car? Did replacing the rod correct your problem for good? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it
I've replaced the fan on a W115 a little over 20 years ago. I've also removed dashs from W123s ans W201s. The W115 was by far the worst. I even tried to drive the W115 without the dash and I forgot about the oil pressure sensor line and felt the hot oil on my leg. I tried to put my thumb over the line and drive back to my parking spot but the pressure was too great and oil too hot. Mike LaFleur From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 1:14:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it Removing the dash on a W123 is child's play. I'm told, however, that removing the dash on a 114/115 is the extreme opposite and takes about a day. That's why the death of the fan motor has often meant the death of the car; the process of getting to the fan is a little like unearthing the evap unit on a W140. Jim Cathey wrote: Hey, it can't be _that_ bad! It's just a dash fer cryin out loud. I've RR'd 107 dashes more than I'd like, and R'd an uncracked 123 once at the junkyard. (Still hanging in my garage.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091007/641c440b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
I emailed the owner of the web page. Apparently, the extended bumper was a factory option when ordered with the rear mounted spare tire. Mike From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:50:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection andrew strasfogel wrote: What's with that Edsel? It's rear bumper extension is so broad could be used as a picnic table! Looks like it's one of many on that page. They all look modified, either for tailgate party tables or platforms to ride on in parades. http://www.59ford.com/carfriends/themountaintop.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090923/e0b6d11e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
Our major insurance company here, Blue Cross/Blue Shield, is a non-profit. Mike LaFleur From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:48:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam Pretty obvious isn't it? Insurance companies should gladly pay out on every claim... I've been thinking that an not-for-profit ins co could do pretty well as its expenses would be so much lower and there wouldn't be the drive to provide profit to the investors. The problem is where does the seed money to get started come from? -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:41:48 EDT From: relng...@aol.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: c5d.592c4e79.37e9a...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ...Insurance is a racket, you know.? It is an organization that makes it look like it is helping, but only skrews with anyone, and everyone. They take, take, take premiums in the guise that someday something *might* happen and then they run and hide when it does happen Since you have been preaching this sermon for MANY months now, how about telling how you came to this conclusion. H? RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/1a1c6788/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/dd1e82a4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1965 190D Craigslist $500
I'd buy this if I didn't think I was going to get let go tomorrow. (and my wife wasn't going to kill me) http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/1386869888.html It look pretty good. Save it, don't let it go to parts! Mike LaFleur -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/4ef5cfc3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] F914
The 914-6 was the car I wanted when I got out of high school, but all I could afford was a '69 Spitfire. Mike From: relng...@aol.com relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:05:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] F914 ...Do you call it the Ferrari 914 because it's a low end Ferrari? I don't know anything about the 308GTS, but I love 914s. I don't believe that a better handling street legal car has ever been made, especially when people put on a 911 suspension, brakes, and wheels. People like to call it the VW Porsche or the poor mans porsche but if I could have any model of Porsche the 914 would be it!... In re: Ferrari 914, I didn't invent that term but I agree with it. Yes, it's a low end' model and not too pretty although not as ugly as the Mondial. As to the 914, I am quite familiar with it having bought a 914-6 new and drove it for 13 years to the day. First one delivered in the Pacific NW after a long delay and a big price increase. I still doubled my money when I sold it. My friend ALC has a '73 914 2-liter that was recently appraised at 25 grand. It has the original tires (dangerous) and gets out perhaps once per year. RLE ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322941x1201367178/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115; bcd=Mayfooter51809NO115) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090518/4ecd5c15/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090518/53814443/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong
Why is it that every benz that has an engine problem that was run on WVO, WVO is blamedas the reason for the failure, but every other benz that has an engine problem, diesel is not the blame? Mike From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 8:30:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong prime example of what WVO will do. It may very well have broken rings though. tyler wrote: 1987 300TD with broken piston rings http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/1160158393.html I'm guessing they're just so carboned up that it doesn't have much compression left. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090508/ac0767f9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] torque for valve cover, OM617?
10 N-M From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:41:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] torque for valve cover, OM617? Is there a specified tightening torque for the valve cover nuts? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090429/f006a340/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Work travel
People get paid for this? Neither I (automotive engineer) nor my wife (RN in research) have ever been paid for more than 8 hrs/day, weekend work, or weekend travel. If I was, I'm owed about $100k conservatively. What industry pays for this? I'm switching! Mike LaFleur From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 3:28:55 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Work travel Hey, Quick off topic. Does anybody travel for work? We've just been informed that from now on we won't be getting any extra pay for weekend work, off shift work or weekend travel. Previously we'd been given comp days for weekend travel and differential pay for off-shift and weekend work. I *think* I'm an exempt employee which makes this all nicely legal although totally aggrevating. It doesn't affect me all that much but there are some folks here that will be pissed. Has anybody delt with this sort of thing before? Sounds like we're up the creek and short of leaving (not real likely in this environment) we have no way to fight it. We've basically been told this will happen or There will be layoffs... /vent -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090306/97684667/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090308/8823c896/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Help - Neep oil pump chain rail spring
This is the email I was hoping for. I called and it is now on order and I should have it for my big pusj to build the engine up over the weekend. Thank you, Mike From: Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:16:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Help - Neep oil pump chain rail spring I have it for $3.00 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Michael LaFleur mike.lafl...@sbcglobal.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] Help - Neep oil pump chain rail spring Some know that I am rebuilding my OM603.961 in my 300SDL. There is spring that applies pressure against the oil chain guide rail. I can't find mine. I took this engine apart 5 years ago up at my mom's farm. I've gone through everything here several times. Does anyone have one? Here is a picture: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q293/mplafleur/OilChainTensioner.jpg Mike LaFleur -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090216/693d11a2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090217/525ea5bb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] beam patterns
I installed Bosch eurolights on my SDL. They didn't come with H4's so I just ordered some. A pair of 85/80w Orsams for less than $40. Mike From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:59:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] beam patterns Yes, they do, actually! The Euro pattern is much less blinding to oncoming traffic, and give vastly better illumination to the driver than DOT pattern does. I miss my Euros. Peter On Feb 16, 2009, at 9:31 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ..I wouldn't worry about it since a lot of newer cars have a similar beam pattern. For example, my CDI has a euro beam pattern... My '95 C280 used H4 bulbs and had the Euro beam pattern. The '01 C320 and the '08 C300, both with Bi-Xenons, have the same Euro beam pattern. Nobody cares. RLE ** Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesncid=emlcntusyelp0003) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090216/b3713c90/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090217/373a0277/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Help - Neep oil pump chain rail spring
Some know that I am rebuilding my OM603.961 in my 300SDL. There is spring that applies pressure against the oil chain guide rail. I can't find mine. I took this engine apart 5 years ago up at my mom's farm. I've gone through everything here several times. Does anyone have one? Here is a picture: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q293/mplafleur/OilChainTensioner.jpg Mike LaFleur -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090216/693d11a2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300d hydraulic lifters
Correct Peter, but the OM602 is a 5 cylinder isn't it? And it has hydraulic lifters and they made it from mid '85 until '93. Mike From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:17:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300d hydraulic lifters I didn't know that ANY 617 engine had hydraulic lifters, only the 60x engines (190D, 86 and later 300SDL, W124s, etc.). Peter On Feb 3, 2009, at 4:59 PM, MG wrote: Was 85 the only year that the 5cyl had hydraulic lifters? I want to find a good engine and transmission for a transplant. Thanks, Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090204/bfb8f22b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300d hydraulic lifters
Technically, they made one in 1985. A 2.5 liter OM602 for the w201, w124 and w460. I don't know what month of 1985 they started selling vehicles with these engines, but Mercedes says they started production of this engine in April 1985. I've never seen an '85 with one in it though. Mike From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:44:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300d hydraulic lifters No, none of the 61x engines had hydraulic lifters. MG wrote: Was 85 the only year that the 5cyl had hydraulic lifters? I want to find a good engine and transmission for a transplant. Thanks, Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1932 - Release Date: 01/30/09 17:31:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090204/66657d64/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300d hydraulic lifters
I'd agree. Find a 602. Better yet, find a turbo version. Mike From: tyler casi...@usermail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 12:18:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300d hydraulic lifters If I were you, I'd look for an OM602 2.5l and a 5 speed to go with it. Tyler MG wrote: Ok. So if there aren't any 3 liter engines with hydraulic lifters then is the 2.5 engine as powerful as the older 3.0 liter and is it the same physical size or smaller? I guess I will need the correct transmission to go along with it. If so I hope it is as strong as the older one. I want to install a diesel into an older Jeep Cherokee but also want to avoid having to adjust valves all the time. So a smaller sized engine is good. HMMM if it was in the G class that would mean that it can have the 4wd option also, Can't it. That would be cool as long as it has the same power of the 3.0. If not then I guess I will have to do valves just like with my 300D. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090204/b872987e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300d hydraulic lifters
1985 was the first year of the OM602 5 cylinder, 2.5 liter, aluminum head with a hydraulic lifters. They made this engine from 4/85 to 6/93. This was in the W201 190D and the G-class I think. Mike From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:59:41 PM Subject: [MBZ] 300d hydraulic lifters Was 85 the only year that the 5cyl had hydraulic lifters? I want to find a good engine and transmission for a transplant. Thanks, Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090203/c840eec8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jim Cathey needs this!
That's actually a very nice scope to use. I used one just like that at an electronics manufacturing plant in Mexico last year to find solder problems. Mike From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 7:42:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jim Cathey needs this! http://www.washington.edu/admin/surplus/inventory/item/stereo-dissecting-scope Figure your eyes are getting to the point that soldering parts and such would be served with one of these They are! But not so bad yet that I can't see that price tag... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090131/a26eaa0e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Crankshaft end play
I've put in the crankshaft on my OM603.961 ('86 300SDL) and I'm checking end
play before I continue.
Using a dial indicator, I get about 3.4 thousandths of an inch.
I don't know if is within spec. Can anyone help?
Mike
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Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft end play
I think I found it.
Crankshaft axial tolerance is 0.100 - 0.254mm
Wear limit is 0.300mm
In thousandths of an inch, that's 4 - 10 thousandths.
I'm actually just shy of the low end. I'm not going to worry about it.
Mike
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Subject: [MBZ] Crankshaft end play
I've put in the crankshaft on my OM603.961 ('86 300SDL) and I'm checking end
play before I continue.
Using a dial indicator, I get about 3.4 thousandths of an inch.
I don't know if is within spec. Can anyone help?
Mike
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Re: [MBZ] 600 vs Corniche
I just watched that last night. Very funny. Mike From: relng...@aol.com relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:54:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] 600 vs Corniche Worth watching and funny. Obama et al not mentioned. Part 1 www.youtube.com/watch?v=r08JEGKXtYg Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjIBqTcQB0sNR=1 RLE ** From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom0023) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090128/17622607/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090128/4ca80a8a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What do y'all think?
California, as a state of the union, has the right to adopt any emission standard it wants. We live in a confederation of states, a democratically elected republic. If you want a totalitarian, communist state, the federal government will dictate and override those standards. States rights are where it's at baby. States can do good things and bad things as long as it doesn't interfere with the several rights outlined in the US constitution and the respective state constitution. We as a people can vote what we think by living there or leaving for another state. If California wants only little shoebox cars, that's what they'll get. Mike From: tyler casi...@usermail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:29:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What do y'all think? That's a slippery slope argument. In California, through the democratic process we have decided that we want to do something about our air quality problem but the federal government is trying to stop us. This statement is logically meaningless: political changes happen in California tend to eventually happen in the rest of the country If you don't live in California, and don't want to have the same laws, then don't vote for them! You are correct that overpopulation and geography are unique problems here, but that doesn't mean we need to pass our laws based on someone elses unique problems rather than our own! Tyler Tom Hargrave wrote: Tyler, Your city is a unique situation and I understand the concern about ozone in LA. But the rest of the country does not have the problem and unfortunately, what political changes happen in California tend to eventually happen in the rest of the country. So, why should the rest of us give up our preferred mode of transportation so that LA can be rid of its smog problem? And the issue isn't cars anyway. Modern car exhaust puts out CO2 and water. The issue is that LA is in a bowel surrounded by mountains that block air circulation and there are about 3X too many people living in the area. So, if 2/3 of the population would move somewhere else (doesn't need to be you!!!), the problem would take care of itself. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090127/adda12f3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What do y'all think?
I don't think I've got it so wrong. I stated that the several states could do what they want as long as it doesn't interfere with the rights that have already been recognized (I won't say granted, because the constitution doesn't grant rights, it only recognizes the ones we already have) Our courts over the last 200 years have gently twisted the commerce clause to mean anything that effects an individual via commerce. This is wrong. The original intent I believe is that Congress has power to specify rules to govern the manner by which people may exchange or trade goods from one state to another, and to remove obstructions to domestic trade erected by states. Looking at this I realize that much lower emission standards could be a restriction to domestic trade and therefore 'may' therefore be regulated by congress. Hmmm, I didn't think that one through all the way before. However, it doesn't nullify my position that the states can operate individually as long as it is kept within the bounds of the constitution. For example, if you want free health care. Move to a state that offers it. It is not in the power (via the constitution) for the federal government to provide this service. Mike From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:29:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What do y'all think? Mike wrote: California, as a state of the union, has the right to adopt any emission standard it wants. We live in a confederation of states, a democratically elected republic. If you want a totalitarian, communist state, the federal government will dictate and override those standards. States rights are where it's at baby. States can do good things and bad things as long as it doesn't interfere with the several rights outlined in the US constitution and the respective state constitution. We as a people can vote what we think by living there or leaving for another state. If California wants only little shoebox cars, that's what they'll get. Mike, that is a gross misstatement of the law and our system of governance. We are a Republic based on Federalism. You are completely wrong about what individual states can do. The federal government has power to regulate LOTS of industries in the states (and this power is found in the Constitution). In addition, the Supreme Court (for over 200 years) has prevented states from enacting specific laws that conflict with other states because of an individual's rights. Its called the privileges and immunities clause. If you are really interested in this area of the law you can read: http://washburnlaw.edu/faculty/rich-william-fulltext/2005-36mcgeorgelawreview569.pdf or Taking 'Privileges or Immunities' Seriously: A Call to Expand the Constitutional Canon, 87 Minnesota Law Review 153 If you want to read something critical of the Supreme Court's efforts to alter federalism, you can read: http://washburnlaw.edu/wlj/42-2/articles/snook-donald.pdf Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090127/519a7903/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090127/ac19463d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What do y'all think?
Tyler said: I don't think it should be. I think people have the right, even the duty to vote with their dollar and refuse to purchase things which they don't want, need, or agree with. California isn't against the auto industry, it's against them making and selling vehicles which destroy their air quality. If they sold different vehicles, then there would be no problem. Then they don't have to buy them. There are cars on the market right now that meet Kalifornia emissions standards. If that's what all Kalifornians wanted, that's all they would be buying. But it's not the case, so I guess that's not what all Kalifornians want. Mike From: tyler casi...@usermail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:35:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What do y'all think? LA is severely overpopulated; So is the whole world to a lesser extent. Like I said before- population is a FACTOR in the pollution problem, but not the only factor. It's like this: change in particulate level = (number of people * rate they produce particles - rate at which particles dissipate) * time You can't pick one factor out of the equation and say it's the only thing affecting air quality... I don't see how selling cars to LA is some sort of right. You're not having to pay anything. Detroit doesn't have to sell any cars in California, or anywhere for that matter. It's their choice to try and sell cars or not, and if they choose to then they need to follow the local laws where they sell them. Since selling cars and making a profit isn't a right, if they can't find a way to do it it's their problem! You seem to be saying that LA and California have some sort of moral obligation to ensure the profitability of the American auto industry at all costs, even if the industry is detrimental rather than beneficial. Why is endless unquestioning consumerism considered some sort of patriotic duty, and moral necessity? I don't think it should be. I think people have the right, even the duty to vote with their dollar and refuse to purchase things which they don't want, need, or agree with. California isn't against the auto industry, it's against them making and selling vehicles which destroy their air quality. If they sold different vehicles, then there would be no problem. Tyler Tom Hargrave wrote: I believe this is a very reasonable solution. The other is to move. I mentioned earlier that there about 3X more people in the area than it can support. So if 2/3 move away, the problem solves itself. Why should the rest of us pay for LA's population issues? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090127/6b4e086d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Help - Broken oil ring - need replavement
I've got my new reconditioned connecting rods for my OM603.961 engine rebuild. I had fitted the rods onto the new wrist pins/pistons and was inspecting them for fit when I noticed that one piston had a broken oil ring (by the skirt). I don't know when this happen, let alone how it happened. They might have come to me this way. I don't know. I don't need a whole set of 6, just one. Can anyone help? Mike From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 5:30:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 20% off entire Harbor Freight purchase this weekend... Uh, Jim, can you pick up a few things for us and ship them??? I can't see how that would possibly work out to be better than just ordering it from them directly. (Not planning to be in that area again until Monday.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090124/529f341d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stealership prices
I went to the stealership today for some items for my SDL. Replacement Key: $35 3ft Injector bypass hose: $13.50 Guide rail pin: $8.75 I hate going to this place for parts... Mike -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090123/26ea9222/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stealership prices
I thought replacement keys were a dealer item only. I had to bring in the title. (except for my '80) Same for the guide pin. The 8mm 4 one at the top of the head. I looked all over and posted that I needed one and couldn't find one. As for the hose, I must admit I only checked a couple of sites on-line and only found the plug. So while I was at the dealer, I got some. Live and learn! Mike From: Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:30:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stealership prices From Rusty: Replacement Key $27.00 3ft Injector bypass hose $9.75 Guide rail pin $7.00 This is why I exist. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Michael LaFleur mike.lafl...@sbcglobal.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] Stealership prices I went to the stealership today for some items for my SDL. Replacement Key: $35 3ft Injector bypass hose: $13.50 Guide rail pin: $8.75 I hate going to this place for parts... Mike -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090123/26ea9222/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090123/75675605/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen
Someone here had a mid-90's diesel Land Rover. I haven't seen it since last sumer though. It looked pretty neat. I looked for other example or references online but couldn't find any, Mike From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:02:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org said: for perspective, consider the competition; how many other diesel 4x4 mini-SUVs are there available? how many of them have relatively simple reliable and maintainable motors you can still get parts and service for, and factory locking difs? Toyota FJ40 series Land Cruisers used to be available in Diesel (Mercedes engines, even). Probably as rare as this G-Wagen though. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090122/1cc75363/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL
Yes, I've got a new block. Someone from a Mercedes forum gave me one and I shipped it here. It has been resleeved and the crank reconditioned. I have new pistons I got a good deal on. If there's not a used set lying around, my next best bet is to go to Metric Motors which will sell me a balanced set ready to install. I have just about everything else ready except for a timing chain, belt and thrust bearings. I do need to replace the guide pin that goes through the front case. The 8mm one that is about 4 long. The one I removed was bent and only hasabout two good threads left. I'm lucky I was able to pull it out. Doers anyone have one of these? Mike From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:50:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL You'd be better off looking for a decent condition 603 -- the only rods available are a complete set of the latest version, and they are NOT inexpensive. I assume you found a new block -- there is no way I'd use one that had a rod tossed in it. Peter On Jan 18, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Michael LaFleur wrote: Hello, I'm new to this list. It was suggested I list here for some parts that I need. I acquired a '86 300SDL a few years ago in an inoperable condition. The number 6 connecting rod end-cap came off and busted a couple of holes in the block. Since then, I acquired parts to restore the car and now I'm ready to put everything back together. I've found that the previous builder of the engine in this car used end caps from different connecting rods when putting it together. Anyway, the parts I have don't match and I am in need of 6 connecting rods for my OM603.961. Mike LaFleur (Detroit) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ attachments/20090118/526d6a18/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090120/2bb14681/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W126 Repair Proccedures Needed (PDF Format)
Those panels are hung on and not clipped. Don't pry it away or you'll break plastic pieces off. You need to lift up the panel. Mike From: barry Stark barryst...@roadrunner.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:27:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W126 Repair Proccedures Needed (PDF Format) Dan - Are you real sure about step 7? It has been a while since I did this too but it seem to remember prying out on the bottom panel of my '81 SD and broke some stuff on my door panel. Manual page 72-100 only says unscrew screw at bottom of panel and Pull door lining in upward direction and remove...then... Note says... Attention! Panel is hung on and not clipped on. Barry 7.) With a putty knife or similar tool, pry bottom edge of inner door panel out to release door panel. Work al the way around the door until the pins are released. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090120/4eb11e14/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL
Yes, I've noticed that they have been revised. At least twice as I see in the FSM. The ones that came out of the engine 1 oiling bore in the wrist pin bushing. I'm going to go ahead with the ones from Metric Motors. They've been RR'd and have new bushings installed. They also have 2 oiling holes for the wrist pin. These con-rods are all I need to finish this build. Everything else I have or is on order except for fluids. Mike From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:03:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL If you can swing it, get the new ones -- there are several revisions to the rods for the 603, and the latest ones are significantly heavier than the originals. Avoid the bent rod syndrom (it happens on the 3.0L too, just not anywhere as often as the 3.5L). That way your grandkids will still be driving it.\ Peter -Original Message- From: Michael LaFleur mike.lafl...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Jan 20, 2009 7:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL Yes, I've got a new block. Someone from a Mercedes forum gave me one and I shipped it here. It has been resleeved and the crank reconditioned. I have new pistons I got a good deal on. If there's not a used set lying around, my next best bet is to go to Metric Motors which will sell me a balanced set ready to install. I have just about everything else ready except for a timing chain, belt and thrust bearings. I do need to replace the guide pin that goes through the front case. The 8mm one that is about 4 long. The one I removed was bent and only hasabout two good threads left. I'm lucky I was able to pull it out. Doers anyone have one of these? Mike From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:50:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL You'd be better off looking for a decent condition 603 -- the only rods available are a complete set of the latest version, and they are NOT inexpensive. I assume you found a new block -- there is no way I'd use one that had a rod tossed in it. Peter On Jan 18, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Michael LaFleur wrote: Hello, I'm new to this list. It was suggested I list here for some parts that I need. I acquired a '86 300SDL a few years ago in an inoperable condition. The number 6 connecting rod end-cap came off and busted a couple of holes in the block. Since then, I acquired parts to restore the car and now I'm ready to put everything back together. I've found that the previous builder of the engine in this car used end caps from different connecting rods when putting it together. Anyway, the parts I have don't match and I am in need of 6 connecting rods for my OM603.961. Mike LaFleur (Detroit) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ attachments/20090118/526d6a18/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090120/2bb14681/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090120/df8c6587/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL
I thought it was the owner of this list who I contacted first and suggested I ask the members as there were none available. Mike From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:03:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL Have you checked with Rusty? I would think he could get them cheaper than Metric. Michael LaFleur wrote: Yes, I've noticed that they have been revised. At least twice as I see in the FSM. The ones that came out of the engine 1 oiling bore in the wrist pin bushing. I'm going to go ahead with the ones from Metric Motors. They've been RR'd and have new bushings installed. They also have 2 oiling holes for the wrist pin. These con-rods are all I need to finish this build. Everything else I have or is on order except for fluids. Mike -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090120/2c37345f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL
They are different. The center to center dimensions for the bores are: 149.0mm for the 3.0 145.0mm for the 3.5 Mike From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:01:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL Are the new rods the same for 3.0 and 3.5, or are they different? I would assume different Peter Frederick wrote: If you can swing it, get the new ones -- there are several revisions to the rods for the 603, and the latest ones are significantly heavier than the originals. Avoid the bent rod syndrom (it happens on the 3.0L too, just not anywhere as often as the 3.5L). That way your grandkids will still be driving it.\ Peter -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090120/335ce1ce/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL
I went and ordered the set from Metric. I think I'll be happy with then, although it really hurt to pay for them. :-) The are the third version (with 2 oiling holes for wrist pin) that first cam out in 9/88. They have been reconditioned with new bushings and have been balanced. I just need to put them in. There is one more thing I need that I keep forgetting about. I need the 4 inch long 8mm diameter guide rail pin that goes through the head. The one I have is bent and cracked at the end. Mike LaFleur From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:58:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL I will have a set eventually, but it could be a while before I get around to it. Got a SDL with a bad head and I think the cylinders are worn out, so Im going to drop another engine in it. When I get the old one out I will probably pull the rods out, but like I say, it could be a long time before I do it. Michael LaFleur wrote: Yes, I've got a new block. Someone from a Mercedes forum gave me one and I shipped it here. It has been resleeved and the crank reconditioned. I have new pistons I got a good deal on. If there's not a used set lying around, my next best bet is to go to Metric Motors which will sell me a balanced set ready to install. I have just about everything else ready except for a timing chain, belt and thrust bearings. I do need to replace the guide pin that goes through the front case. The 8mm one that is about 4 long. The one I removed was bent and only hasabout two good threads left. I'm lucky I was able to pull it out. Doers anyone have one of these? Mike -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090120/5d352b40/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL
Gottcha Thanks From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:01:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL Michael LaFleur wrote: I thought it was the owner of this list who I contacted first and suggested I ask the members as there were none available. Kaleb owns the list and dismantles MBs in his back yard. Rusty Cullens owns BuyMBparts.com and sponsors the list in some fashion. Jabba the Hurst works for, I mean is employed by Rusty. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090120/994a58b9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hello - Need connecting rods - OM603 - 300SDL
Hello, I'm new to this list. It was suggested I list here for some parts that I need. I acquired a '86 300SDL a few years ago in an inoperable condition. The number 6 connecting rod end-cap came off and busted a couple of holes in the block. Since then, I acquired parts to restore the car and now I'm ready to put everything back together. I've found that the previous builder of the engine in this car used end caps from different connecting rods when putting it together. Anyway, the parts I have don't match and I am in need of 6 connecting rods for my OM603.961. Mike LaFleur (Detroit) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090118/526d6a18/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
