Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
M1 0w-40 and 5w-40 are approved by MB, but I can't find that 15w-50 is. http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One glenn brown wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. 1. you have to buy it online for in store pickup. Limit 12 quarts per order. 2. It works on 15W50 and 0W40 but I can't get it to work on 5w40 Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
I use the 0w-40 in my 124.193 (OM603) and it seems to like it just fine. I prefer to use the 5w-40 when I can find it. MB approves it for that engine. http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html Check sheet 229.3 -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Do you have proof, or internet rumor? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One You all are aware that they changed M1 to where its just a hydrocracked group 3 oil now? Not worth the price if you ask me. On 11/30/2010 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34:17 -0500 From: glenn browng_010...@hotmail.com To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID:snt140-w65c58e12d4e41007f56dc2f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
I think it was our late MB who said 15W50 was perfectly fine, as long as you CHANGE YOUR OIL at the proper intervals. I use it in the diesels. --R On 12/6/2010 11:58 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: M1 0w-40 and 5w-40 are approved by MB, but I can't find that 15w-50 is. http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One glenn brown wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. 1. you have to buy it online for in store pickup. Limit 12 quarts per order. 2. It works on 15W50 and 0W40 but I can't get it to work on 5w40 Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
It definitely was on the list for OM617, maybe also OM603. May not be approved for the current slate of engines. The page I always used (this link was often referred to by Marshall) was http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html That page is no longer online and the wayback machine is not bringing it up at the moment. Allan On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:58 -0500, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: M1 0w-40 and 5w-40 are approved by MB, but I can't find that 15w-50 is. http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One glenn brown wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. 1. you have to buy it online for in store pickup. Limit 12 quarts per order. 2. It works on 15W50 and 0W40 but I can't get it to work on 5w40 Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I think it was our late MB who said 15W50 was perfectly fine, as long as you CHANGE YOUR OIL at the proper intervals. I use it in the diesels. I think Marshall recommended 15W40 dino juice, and it's specified by M-B for the '80s gassers I'm familiar with, too (and probably others). If you want to simplify your life, or at least the part that involves changing oil, just buy a few gallons of Delo 400 15W40 whenever it's on sale and use it in everything. (Except for the many late-model cars people have mentioned that require 0Wsomething. Which I suspect, apart from Mercedes and Porsche, is probably a cynical way by the manufacturer to improve CAFE numbers, with the expectation that the increased wear caused the engine by a thinner oil doesn't make a difference until the car is long out of warranty.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Marshall would acknowledge that there were some good conventional oils, but I never recall him recommending one over Mobil-1. Allan On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:07 -0800, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I think it was our late MB who said 15W50 was perfectly fine, as long as you CHANGE YOUR OIL at the proper intervals. I use it in the diesels. I think Marshall recommended 15W40 dino juice, and it's specified by M-B for the '80s gassers I'm familiar with, too (and probably others). If you want to simplify your life, or at least the part that involves changing oil, just buy a few gallons of Delo 400 15W40 whenever it's on sale and use it in everything. (Except for the many late-model cars people have mentioned that require 0Wsomething. Which I suspect, apart from Mercedes and Porsche, is probably a cynical way by the manufacturer to improve CAFE numbers, with the expectation that the increased wear caused the engine by a thinner oil doesn't make a difference until the car is long out of warranty.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
The stuff used to carry the mb approval rating, but nomlonger does. Reformulation! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 6, 2010, at 13:55, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: It definitely was on the list for OM617, maybe also OM603. May not be approved for the current slate of engines. The page I always used (this link was often referred to by Marshall) was http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html That page is no longer online and the wayback machine is not bringing it up at the moment. Allan On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:58 -0500, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: M1 0w-40 and 5w-40 are approved by MB, but I can't find that 15w-50 is. http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One glenn brown wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. 1. you have to buy it online for in store pickup. Limit 12 quarts per order. 2. It works on 15W50 and 0W40 but I can't get it to work on 5w40 Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Wayback is working again, I pulled up the page from 2008 and it listed on the 229.1 sheet: Mobil 1 with SuperSyn 15W-50 Mobil 1 TriSynthetic 5W-50, 15W-50, 0W-40, 5W-40 (100% synthetic) On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:31 -0500, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: The stuff used to carry the mb approval rating, but nomlonger does. Reformulation! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 6, 2010, at 13:55, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: It definitely was on the list for OM617, maybe also OM603. May not be approved for the current slate of engines. The page I always used (this link was often referred to by Marshall) was http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html That page is no longer online and the wayback machine is not bringing it up at the moment. Allan On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:58 -0500, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: M1 0w-40 and 5w-40 are approved by MB, but I can't find that 15w-50 is. http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One glenn brown wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. 1. you have to buy it online for in store pickup. Limit 12 quarts per order. 2. It works on 15W50 and 0W40 but I can't get it to work on 5w40 Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
For which engines? OM 602? Dwight Giles 1990 300D 2.5t Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:37:00 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Wayback is working again, I pulled up the page from 2008 and it listed on the 229.1 sheet: Mobil 1 with SuperSyn 15W-50 Mobil 1 TriSynthetic 5W-50, 15W-50, 0W-40, 5W-40 (100% synthetic) On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:31 -0500, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: The stuff used to carry the mb approval rating, but nomlonger does. Reformulation! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 6, 2010, at 13:55, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: It definitely was on the list for OM617, maybe also OM603. May not be approved for the current slate of engines. The page I always used (this link was often referred to by Marshall) was http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html That page is no longer online and the wayback machine is not bringing it up at the moment. Allan On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:58 -0500, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: M1 0w-40 and 5w-40 are approved by MB, but I can't find that 15w-50 is. http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One glenn brown wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. 1. you have to buy it online for in store pickup. Limit 12 quarts per order. 2. It works on 15W50 and 0W40 but I can't get it to work on 5w40 Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Yep, but the new bottles (new formula) do not carry it. I can provide some photos if need be -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:37, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Wayback is working again, I pulled up the page from 2008 and it listed on the 229.1 sheet: Mobil 1 with SuperSyn 15W-50 Mobil 1 TriSynthetic 5W-50, 15W-50, 0W-40, 5W-40 (100% synthetic) On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:31 -0500, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: The stuff used to carry the mb approval rating, but nomlonger does. Reformulation! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 6, 2010, at 13:55, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: It definitely was on the list for OM617, maybe also OM603. May not be approved for the current slate of engines. The page I always used (this link was often referred to by Marshall) was http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html That page is no longer online and the wayback machine is not bringing it up at the moment. Allan On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:58 -0500, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: M1 0w-40 and 5w-40 are approved by MB, but I can't find that 15w-50 is. http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One glenn brown wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. 1. you have to buy it online for in store pickup. Limit 12 quarts per order. 2. It works on 15W50 and 0W40 but I can't get it to work on 5w40 Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Marshall would acknowledge that there were some good conventional oils, but I never recall him recommending one over Mobil-1. Right, I meant to write that he recommended Delo 400 14W40 as the best conventional oil, if you chose to use one rather than Mobil1. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Anything that referenced the spec 229.1 (rather old at this date). Allan degco...@cox.net writes: For which engines? OM 602? Dwight Giles 1990 300D 2.5t Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:37:00 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Wayback is working again, I pulled up the page from 2008 and it listed on the 229.1 sheet: Mobil 1 with SuperSyn 15W-50 Mobil 1 TriSynthetic 5W-50, 15W-50, 0W-40, 5W-40 (100% synthetic) On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:31 -0500, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: The stuff used to carry the mb approval rating, but nomlonger does. Reformulation! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 6, 2010, at 13:55, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: It definitely was on the list for OM617, maybe also OM603. May not be approved for the current slate of engines. The page I always used (this link was often referred to by Marshall) was http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html That page is no longer online and the wayback machine is not bringing it up at the moment. Allan On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:58 -0500, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: M1 0w-40 and 5w-40 are approved by MB, but I can't find that 15w-50 is. http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One glenn brown wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. 1. you have to buy it online for in store pickup. Limit 12 quarts per order. 2. It works on 15W50 and 0W40 but I can't get it to work on 5w40 Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: There is a discussion going on another list about this very subject. There is no hard facts just observations. When someone from M1 was asked if their new 15w50 was PAO/ester or group III they avoided giving a straight answer. If it was in fact still group IV/V that would have been a good selling point. Apparently the reason for the question is the observation that the new formula starts burning off much sooner than the old formula. http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Group_3_Base_Oils.aspx and http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Does_Mobil_1_Contain_Ester_Oil.aspx I would concur that their answers seem evasive Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Allan Streib wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: There is a discussion going on another list about this very subject. There is no hard facts just observations. When someone from M1 was asked if their new 15w50 was PAO/ester or group III they avoided giving a straight answer. If it was in fact still group IV/V that would have been a good selling point. Apparently the reason for the question is the observation that the new formula starts burning off much sooner than the old formula. http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Group_3_Base_Oils.aspx and http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Does_Mobil_1_Contain_Ester_Oil.aspx I would concur that their answers seem evasive Allan Mobil 1 contains ester. And beer contains alcohol. However beer is not mostly alcohol, and it seems obvious that Mobil 1 has not been mostly ester in recent years. Circa 1992, I can recall trying Syntec, which cost more than M1, and a store brand 'synthetic blend'. While the M1 would stay at the max mark on the dipstick for thousands of miles, the $5 Syntec and the $2 blend disappeared at a noticeable rate. After Quaker State fought in court and won the 'right' to lie about Syntec, it seems obvious that everybody else sells whatever blend of group III/IV/V they want to put in the bottle and calls it 'full synthetic'. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Can you cite any reliable evidence that this is true? This rumor has been going around for 5 years anyway, Mobil denys it and analysis backs up Mobil not the rumor mongers... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:47:39 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID: sig.4950f928f4.4cf58d1b.3010...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed You all are aware that they changed M1 to where its just a hydrocracked group 3 oil now? Not worth the price if you ask me. On 11/30/2010 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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the first one says it all. It was dave M who asked the same question of someone at mobil and got almost the same non answer. On 12/1/2010 5:24 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net writes: There is a discussion going on another list about this very subject. There is no hard facts just observations. When someone from M1 was asked if their new 15w50 was PAO/ester or group III they avoided giving a straight answer. If it was in fact still group IV/V that would have been a good selling point. Apparently the reason for the question is the observation that the new formula starts burning off much sooner than the old formula. http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Group_3_Base_Oils.aspx and http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Does_Mobil_1_Contain_Ester_Oil.aspx I would concur that their answers seem evasive Allan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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and for the short answer, I am just going to save my money and stick with good old dino oil. On 12/1/2010 7:09 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: There is a discussion going on another list about this very subject. There is no hard facts just observations. When someone from M1 was asked if their new 15w50 was PAO/ester or group III they avoided giving a straight answer. If it was in fact still group IV/V that would have been a good selling point. Apparently the reason for the question is the observation that the new formula starts burning off much sooner than the old formula. http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Group_3_Base_Oils.aspx and http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Does_Mobil_1_Contain_Ester_Oil.aspx I would concur that their answers seem evasive Allan Mobil 1 contains ester. And beer contains alcohol. However beer is not mostly alcohol, and it seems obvious that Mobil 1 has not been mostly ester in recent years. Circa 1992, I can recall trying Syntec, which cost more than M1, and a store brand 'synthetic blend'. While the M1 would stay at the max mark on the dipstick for thousands of miles, the $5 Syntec and the $2 blend disappeared at a noticeable rate. After Quaker State fought in court and won the 'right' to lie about Syntec, it seems obvious that everybody else sells whatever blend of group III/IV/V they want to put in the bottle and calls it 'full synthetic'. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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whey they will not answer the question straight is a good strong indication. When the new formula burns off at a quicker rate than the older that is another strong indication. On 12/1/2010 8:26 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Can you cite any reliable evidence that this is true? This rumor has been going around for 5 years anyway, Mobil denys it and analysis backs up Mobil not the rumor mongers... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:47:39 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID:sig.4950f928f4.4cf58d1b.3010...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed You all are aware that they changed M1 to where its just a hydrocracked group 3 oil now? Not worth the price if you ask me. On 11/30/2010 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That they keep changing the formulation labels, bottles and graphics all the time are indications that something has been changing besides the bottle. I keep thinking that maybe I've bought my last mobil1, but I could not pass up the $4/qt M1 before I knew this. I have been ready several times to be an amsoil dealer, but now it is suspect too. It is disgusting. whey they will not answer the question straight is a good strong indication. When the new formula burns off at a quicker rate than the older that is another strong indication. On 12/1/2010 8:26 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Can you cite any reliable evidence that this is true? This rumor has been going around for 5 years anyway, Mobil denys it and analysis backs up Mobil not the rumor mongers... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:47:39 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID:sig.4950f928f4.4cf58d1b.3010...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed You all are aware that they changed M1 to where its just a hydrocracked group 3 oil now? Not worth the price if you ask me. On 11/30/2010 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dieselhead wrote: I have been ready several times to be an amsoil dealer, but now it is suspect too. It is disgusting. Isn't highly-regulated 'free' market economy wonderful? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What about 20W-50? That's also good for the older diesels. Sadly it's nearly always out of stock at all the local FLAPs, and Wal-Mart does not stock it at all anymore. I've been using Chevron Delo, but would like to use M1 for the winter time. Allan On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34 -0500, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Err I think it's actually 15W-50 On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:36 -0500, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: What about 20W-50? That's also good for the older diesels. Sadly it's nearly always out of stock at all the local FLAPs, and Wal-Mart does not stock it at all anymore. I've been using Chevron Delo, but would like to use M1 for the winter time. Allan On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34 -0500, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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glenn brown wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. 1. you have to buy it online for in store pickup. Limit 12 quarts per order. 2. It works on 15W50 and 0W40 but I can't get it to work on 5w40 Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Our vergasser van recommended 0w-30 for better economy - less drag on the engine with thinner oil. I don't use it though --- On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Alex -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Newer BMW, VW, and possibly MBZ? We have to remind ourselves that MBZ didn't stop manufacturing cars at the turn of the century. I think some of the Toyotas now take 0W20. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I thought MB recommended it for their newest gasoline engines. I tried in in my OM617 once, and thought the engine sounded too noisy. Pressure was always OK though, even hot. Allan On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:38 -0800, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Our Ford Focus, an '02, takes 0W-20. There is a Motorcraft synthetic blend in that weight, but I have normally used M1 in it. I do use the Motorcraft filters, not so much because I think they're great but Wal-Mart stocks them, they are not expensive, and I trust the OE brand more than Fram. 4 cylinder Zetec. On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:02 -0500, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Newer BMW, VW, and possibly MBZ? We have to remind ourselves that MBZ didn't stop manufacturing cars at the turn of the century. I think some of the Toyotas now take 0W20. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Both my '04 Focus ZTW wagon and my son's 2005 Focus sedan (both with the 2.3l 4 cylinder engine ) call for 0W-20. I get a heck of a deal from the local Ford dealer for oil changes using their house brand synthetic blend, so I just use that. When I get a house and a garage again I may go back to M1 for both cars. I keep records religiously, and I saw no appreciable difference in mileage between M1 and the Motorcraft blend. FWIW, I get an oil and filter change, tire rotation and complete inspection for under $30 at the stealership. I can't do the work for that even if I had access to the required facilities. Dan --- On Tue, 11/30/10, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 2:09 PM Our Ford Focus, an '02, takes 0W-20. There is a Motorcraft synthetic blend in that weight, but I have normally used M1 in it. I do use the Motorcraft filters, not so much because I think they're great but Wal-Mart stocks them, they are not expensive, and I trust the OE brand more than Fram. 4 cylinder Zetec. On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:02 -0500, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Newer BMW, VW, and possibly MBZ? We have to remind ourselves that MBZ didn't stop manufacturing cars at the turn of the century. I think some of the Toyotas now take 0W20. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34:17 -0500 From: glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID: snt140-w65c58e12d4e41007f56dc2f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
The online purchase worked for me last night. 3.99 for 12 Qt of 15W-50. As told, it shows up as $8 a qt until you check out, then the price is 3.99/Qt. I tried the additional 20% code, and it said the code worked, but the price was the same. What about 20W-50? That's also good for the older diesels. Sadly it's nearly always out of stock at all the local FLAPs, and Wal-Mart does not stock it at all anymore. I've been using Chevron Delo, but would like to use M1 for the winter time. Allan On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34 -0500, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
I have mixed 0-40 and 15W-50 at up to 50/50 with good results. I won't use 0w-40 in the older diesels (Iron or OM60x) I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34:17 -0500 From: glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID: snt140-w65c58e12d4e41007f56dc2f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One, addendum
Guys, I recently purchased an '85 300TD from my brother and this car had been previously diagnosed with valve stem seals which need replacing as there's considerable oil smoke after startup from cold but disappears after ~ 5 min. of running. Since I seem to recall the honorable Dr. Booth indicating that synthetic oils tend to swell seals more than conventional/dino oils, I thought I'd try synthetic oil in the TD for a couple oils changes to see if this improves things before I seriously consider trying to replace the valve stem seals. Since I've only got a few hundred miles on the first synthetic oil change in the TD and the offer at Advance would be just too good to pass up, I thought I'd purchase some of the Mobil 1 5W-40 diesel truck oil ahead of time for the next oil change but the Advance Auto Parts store employee indicated that this oil is not on sale and I tried the purchase on the Net approach, where someone has indicated that the discount would show up in the cart electronically . . . Note: this does not occur. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One, addendum
glenn brown wrote: Guys, I recently purchased an '85 300TD from my brother and this car had been previously diagnosed with valve stem seals which need replacing as there's considerable oil smoke after startup from cold but disappears after ~ 5 min. of running. Since I seem to recall the honorable Dr. Booth indicating that synthetic oils tend to swell seals more than conventional/dino oils, I thought I'd try synthetic oil in the TD for a couple oils changes to see if this improves things before I seriously consider trying to replace the valve stem seals. Since I've only got a few hundred miles on the first synthetic oil change in the TD and the offer at Advance would be just too good to pass up, I thought I'd purchase some of the Mobil 1 5W-40 diesel truck oil ahead of time for the next oil change but the Advance Auto Parts store employee indicated that this oil is not on sale and I tried the purchase on the Net approach, where someone has indicated that the discount would show up in the ca rt electronically . . . Note: this does not occur. It occurs for everything but the diesel and motorcycle oils. Buy the 15W50 instead if you don't want to go to Wal-Mart or pay $8 for it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One, addendum
Hi Glenn, Your idea has merit, my '96 Dakota was leaking badly from the rear main seal, it was losing a qt in like 500 miles and I had no job or garage or tools to work on it (this was before I had a house) so I tried synthetic in it. After ~20,000 miles the leak had slowed to ~1qt in 3,000 miles and stayed that way for ~100,000 more miles until I got rid of the truck. You have to be patient though. My '78 240D leaks/consumes a fair amount, I haven't really tracked it but I'd say 1qt in 800 miles or so but I've gone to M1 and its improving slowly. The 5w40 doesn't qualify for the deal but the 15w50 does. While its not as light an oil as the 5w40 and not as good for cold weather its a considerable improvement in the cold over conventional 15w40. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:45:47 -0500 From: glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One, addendum Message-ID: snt140-w178b3588245820edfe49c0f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Guys, I recently purchased an '85 300TD from my brother and this car had been previously diagnosed with valve stem seals which need replacing as there's considerable oil smoke after startup from cold but disappears after ~ 5 min. of running. Since I seem to recall the honorable Dr. Booth indicating that synthetic oils tend to swell seals more than conventional/dino oils, I thought I'd try synthetic oil in the TD for a couple oils changes to see if this improves things before I seriously consider trying to replace the valve stem seals. Since I've only got a few hundred miles on the first synthetic oil change in the TD and the offer at Advance would be just too good to pass up, I thought I'd purchase some of the Mobil 1 5W-40 diesel truck oil ahead of time for the next oil change but the Advance Auto Parts store employee indicated that this oil is not on sale and I tried the purchase on the Net approach, where someone has indicated that the discount would show up in the cart electronically . . . Note: this does not occur. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
You all are aware that they changed M1 to where its just a hydrocracked group 3 oil now? Not worth the price if you ask me. On 11/30/2010 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34:17 -0500 From: glenn browng_010...@hotmail.com To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID:snt140-w65c58e12d4e41007f56dc2f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One, addendum
The ONLY auto crancase additive I have ever used that actualy worked was NAPA Rear Main Bearing Seal Leak Repair. Add it to hot engine, run for 15 minutes and let sit o'nite. I've had this stuff swell up the seals on 3 old cars, a good $4 shot on an old car that's crapping up the driveway or oiling the clutch. -- Pete Arnold You win some, You loose some and You wreck some! -Dale Earnhardt- On 11/30/2010 5:52 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Hi Glenn, Your idea has merit, my '96 Dakota was leaking badly from the rear main seal, it was losing a qt in like 500 miles and I had no job or garage or tools to work on it (this was before I had a house) so I tried synthetic in it. After ~20,000 miles the leak had slowed to ~1qt in 3,000 miles and stayed that way for ~100,000 more miles until I got rid of the truck. You have to be patient though. My '78 240D leaks/consumes a fair amount, I haven't really tracked it but I'd say 1qt in 800 miles or so but I've gone to M1 and its improving slowly. The 5w40 doesn't qualify for the deal but the 15w50 does. While its not as light an oil as the 5w40 and not as good for cold weather its a considerable improvement in the cold over conventional 15w40. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:45:47 -0500 From: glenn browng_010...@hotmail.com To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One, addendum Message-ID:snt140-w178b3588245820edfe49c0f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Guys, I recently purchased an '85 300TD from my brother and this car had been previously diagnosed with valve stem seals which need replacing as there's considerable oil smoke after startup from cold but disappears after ~ 5 min. of running. Since I seem to recall the honorable Dr. Booth indicating that synthetic oils tend to swell seals more than conventional/dino oils, I thought I'd try synthetic oil in the TD for a couple oils changes to see if this improves things before I seriously consider trying to replace the valve stem seals. Since I've only got a few hundred miles on the first synthetic oil change in the TD and the offer at Advance would be just too good to pass up, I thought I'd purchase some of the Mobil 1 5W-40 diesel truck oil ahead of time for the next oil change but the Advance Auto Parts store employee indicated that this oil is not on sale and I tried the purchase on the Net approach, where someone has indicated that the discount would show up in the cart electronically . . . Note: this does not occur. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Source of info please... -- Pete Arnold When you get older, you don't regret the things you did in life. You regret the things you didn't do. On 11/30/2010 6:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You all are aware that they changed M1 to where its just a hydrocracked group 3 oil now? Not worth the price if you ask me. On 11/30/2010 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34:17 -0500 From: glenn browng_010...@hotmail.com To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID:snt140-w65c58e12d4e41007f56dc2f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
There is a discussion going on another list about this very subject. There is no hard facts just observations. When someone from M1 was asked if their new 15w50 was PAO/ester or group III they avoided giving a straight answer. If it was in fact still group IV/V that would have been a good selling point. Apparently the reason for the question is the observation that the new formula starts burning off much sooner than the old formula. On 11/30/2010 8:28 PM, Peter T. Arnold wrote: Source of info please... -- Pete Arnold When you get older, you don't regret the things you did in life. You regret the things you didn't do. On 11/30/2010 6:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You all are aware that they changed M1 to where its just a hydrocracked group 3 oil now? Not worth the price if you ask me. On 11/30/2010 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34:17 -0500 From: glenn browng_010...@hotmail.com To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID:snt140-w65c58e12d4e41007f56dc2f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Advance Auto Parts http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/topic_view.php?catid=18threadid=1047758start=0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Is there a direct link? I have the ad-click-trackers blocked, so the link on their site goes nowhere. On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:50 -0500, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Advance Auto Parts http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/topic_view.php?catid=18threadid=1047758start=0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Allan Streib wrote: Is there a direct link? I have the ad-click-trackers blocked, so the link on their site goes nowhere. http://www.advanceautoparts.com Click on motor oil down near the right side, then limit it to Mobil products. Full price shows up in item search, sale price shows in checkout. Fatwallet members can get 7% cashback, and I believe Shopdiscover gets you 10% on your Discover card, don't know if you can combine the two. Advance Auto discount coupons normally don't work if there's any motor oil in the shopping cart. I was able to get 40% off on a 5 gallon pail of ATF, something like $28 with tax. Maybe I should see if the sale gets half off on M1 ATF. 60% of 50% of their regular $9 on M1 ATF would be $2.70. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
