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[greg via Mercedes]

Well, what do you expect at that steep discount ;-) ?

Greg


> "not rusted, corroded or cracked"
>
> w/ close-up photos of corroded carburetors
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, at 11:20, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> Used?  Original box?
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/677719044178142
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On 2023-05-02 15:08, greg via Mercedes wrote:

Otis Redding too, a great R artist.



Otis Redding III, that is. He was my age.

Otis Jr's pilot landed his plane in the lake at Madison in 1967, a 
couple weeks after his biggest hit was recorded. His wife didn't like 
(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay, thought it was a sell-out and didn't 
want him to record it. The money from that song probably helped a great 
deal in helping her raise the kids after Jr was gone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTVjnBo96Ug

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[greg via Mercedes]

Otis Redding too, a great R artist.

Greg

> Harry Belefonte died recently. To be honest I didn't realize he was still
> alive...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 11:15:50 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>  wrote:
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>
>
>
>
> All the old 60s and 70s dudes and dudettes are kicking or will be soon
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On May 1, 2023, at 9:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Gordon Lightfoot just kicked the bucket.  Time to listed to the
>> Wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald in remembrance.
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[greg via Mercedes]

The "brick" appellation reminds me of a long-ago online community I used
to belong to called "swedishbricks" back in my Volvo days.


> Asking $2k might be worth $1k but my buddy who's into these says $500
>
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[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I have a '70s vintage Marantz preamp that still sounded good last time I tried 
it. Been sitting on a shelf for a while now though.


On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 16:45, greg via Mercedes wrote:
>> Is Marantz still the best name in tuners?
>>
>
> I believe they were bought out and their current stuff is not anything
> special. My brother had a good friend who was an engineer for Marantz back
> in the day. He picked out a tuner that tested nearly perfect which is now
> in my brother's possession.
>
> Greg
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I also have a United Audio turntable. Can't recall but probably picked it
up for $10 at a yard sale.  Seems to work OK.  No idea of its true value.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 4:46 PM greg via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Is Marantz still the best name in tuners?
> >
>
> I believe they were bought out and their current stuff is not anything
> special. My brother had a good friend who was an engineer for Marantz back
> in the day. He picked out a tuner that tested nearly perfect which is now
> in my brother's possession.
>
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[greg via Mercedes]

> Is Marantz still the best name in tuners?
>

I believe they were bought out and their current stuff is not anything
special. My brother had a good friend who was an engineer for Marantz back
in the day. He picked out a tuner that tested nearly perfect which is now
in my brother's possession.

Greg


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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I assume the bullet hit a major artery.

Randy

On 15/12/2022 7:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

There were some comments FWIW in another post about this incident that referred 
to a Glock, 32? maybe ( I know nothing about Glocks), that apparently was prone 
to firing when not intended due to no safety and being ready to fire, getting 
knocked or something. There might have been a report about the Glock and a 
spent casing in the car, and of course the bullet and the damaged groinal area.

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Dec 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, greg via Mercedes  wrote:

I carried a Glock 19 daily for many years, and this is the first I'm
hearing of a self-firing one. The only "failure" I'm aware of is the
tendency to go full auto. That happened at the range once. But even then
it was easy to control.

If a trigger catches on any weapon it may fire. Even a pocket pistol
requires a holster to be safe.

Greg



Semi-automatic.

The bangers around here seem to favor 9mm or .45cal semi-automatic
pistols, or whatever stolen firearms they can buy off the skreets.
Commenters speculated this fine citizen had a Glock, which are prone to
spontaneous discharge.

In any case the gene 溺 pool was cleansed though no indication that he
was a doting father

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT driving while stupid

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On 2022-12-15 22:39, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

He was probably grabbing the gun while he was trying to turn the car
with the other hand and like a dumbass stuck his finger in there to
get ready to pop his target but shot off his “groin” before he could
do the other guy.

The most curious aspect is that it happened at 630AM. The bangers
aren’t fond of early morning unless they are still up from a night of
trappin yo.


Now imagine doing that with a "glock switch" on the back and a 33rd 
magazine, and letting 8 rounds into your leg before you let go of the 
trigger.


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[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Also my guess is he hit his femoral artery and bled out quick. Blowing his c*ck 
off would be unpleasant for him but probably not fatal.


On Thu, Dec 15, 2022, at 22:50, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Sounds like he won a Darwin award.
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2022, at 22:39, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> He was probably grabbing the gun while he was trying to turn the car 
>> with the other hand and like a dumbass stuck his finger in there to get 
>> ready to pop his target but shot off his “groin” before he could do the 
>> other guy. 
>>
>> The most curious aspect is that it happened at 630AM. The bangers 
>> aren’t fond of early morning unless they are still up from a night of 
>> trappin yo. 
>>
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>>
>>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:45 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No holster is no bueno. The trigger IS the safety. Keep your booger hooks 
>>> off of the bang switch, no issues. Catch ANYTHING on the trigger (ie hoodie 
>>> string) it's going to go bang. The only modern firearm that has had issues 
>>> with unintentional discharge WITHOUT the trigger being operated is the Sig 
>>> Sauer P320. Those issues have been addressed.
>>> 
>>> https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2021/10/30/milwaukee-police-report-issues-with-sig-p320s-discharging-n51542
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
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[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Sounds like he won a Darwin award.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2022, at 22:39, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> He was probably grabbing the gun while he was trying to turn the car 
> with the other hand and like a dumbass stuck his finger in there to get 
> ready to pop his target but shot off his “groin” before he could do the 
> other guy. 
>
> The most curious aspect is that it happened at 630AM. The bangers 
> aren’t fond of early morning unless they are still up from a night of 
> trappin yo. 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:45 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No holster is no bueno. The trigger IS the safety. Keep your booger hooks 
>> off of the bang switch, no issues. Catch ANYTHING on the trigger (ie hoodie 
>> string) it's going to go bang. The only modern firearm that has had issues 
>> with unintentional discharge WITHOUT the trigger being operated is the Sig 
>> Sauer P320. Those issues have been addressed.
>> 
>> https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2021/10/30/milwaukee-police-report-issues-with-sig-p320s-discharging-n51542
>> 
>> 
>> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT driving while stupid

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

He was probably grabbing the gun while he was trying to turn the car with the 
other hand and like a dumbass stuck his finger in there to get ready to pop his 
target but shot off his “groin” before he could do the other guy. 

The most curious aspect is that it happened at 630AM. The bangers aren’t fond 
of early morning unless they are still up from a night of trappin yo. 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:45 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No holster is no bueno. The trigger IS the safety. Keep your booger hooks 
> off of the bang switch, no issues. Catch ANYTHING on the trigger (ie hoodie 
> string) it's going to go bang. The only modern firearm that has had issues 
> with unintentional discharge WITHOUT the trigger being operated is the Sig 
> Sauer P320. Those issues have been addressed.
> 
> https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2021/10/30/milwaukee-police-report-issues-with-sig-p320s-discharging-n51542
> 
> 
> Rick
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[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

No holster is no bueno. The trigger IS the safety. Keep your booger hooks off 
of the bang switch, no issues. Catch ANYTHING on the trigger (ie hoodie string) 
it's going to go bang. The only modern firearm that has had issues with 
unintentional discharge WITHOUT the trigger being operated is the Sig Sauer 
P320. Those issues have been addressed.

https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2021/10/30/milwaukee-police-report-issues-with-sig-p320s-discharging-n51542


Rick
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[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

There were some comments FWIW in another post about this incident that referred 
to a Glock, 32? maybe ( I know nothing about Glocks), that apparently was prone 
to firing when not intended due to no safety and being ready to fire, getting 
knocked or something. There might have been a report about the Glock and a 
spent casing in the car, and of course the bullet and the damaged groinal area. 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Dec 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, greg via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I carried a Glock 19 daily for many years, and this is the first I'm
> hearing of a self-firing one. The only "failure" I'm aware of is the
> tendency to go full auto. That happened at the range once. But even then
> it was easy to control.
> 
> If a trigger catches on any weapon it may fire. Even a pocket pistol
> requires a holster to be safe.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
>> Semi-automatic.
>> 
>> The bangers around here seem to favor 9mm or .45cal semi-automatic
>> pistols, or whatever stolen firearms they can buy off the skreets.
>> Commenters speculated this fine citizen had a Glock, which are prone to
>> spontaneous discharge.
>> 
>> In any case the gene 溺 pool was cleansed though no indication that he
>> was a doting father
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
> 
> 
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On 2022-12-15 17:17, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
Hadn't heard that they could go "full auto." That would be a surprise I 
imagine.


Hard to imagine unless you never clean it and the firing pin gets stuck, 
making it slamfire when the action closes.


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> Hadn't heard that they could go "full auto." That would be a surprise I 
> imagine.

Semi-auto guns have MORE parts in them to ensure that they don't fire
again when they close back up, unless the trigger is cycled again.
But if something's broken...  No worse surprise than finding a semi-auto
pistol whose trigger is actually a "magazine empty" switch!  Pull it once
and then hang on until the magazine is empty.  Yikes.  I've heard of it,
but never experienced it.

> I don't own any pistols -- my understanding is that Glocks don't have a 
> traditional safety "switch" as such, but they do have mechanisms to prevent 
> firing other than by a deliberate trigger pull.

Indeed.  The great unwashed, upon hearing that a gun (like a revolver,
or a Glock) doesn't have a safety switch immediately assumes "OH MY
GOD IT'S NOT SAFE!"  No, that's not a logical conclusion.

Magical thinking, it's everywhere.

A gun without a separate can-point-to-it safety lever is no less safe
than a car without 'go-fast' stripes on it is not fast.  Its safety, or speed,
is NOT INHERENTLY RELATED to these things.  But rather, other things.

Glocks have something like three different mechanisms in them to ensure
that unless you pull the trigger they won't fire.  Revolvers have internal
design features to ensure the same thing.  But, being mere machines, they
can be broken so that they're not working as intended.  Less safe than they're
supposed to be.

Any gun that fires when the trigger is not pulled is not safe.  And is probably
broken.

-- Jim


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[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Hadn't heard that they could go "full auto." That would be a surprise I imagine.

I don't own any pistols -- my understanding is that Glocks don't have a 
traditional safety "switch" as such, but they do have mechanisms to prevent 
firing other than by a deliberate trigger pull.


On Thu, Dec 15, 2022, at 17:07, greg via Mercedes wrote:
> I carried a Glock 19 daily for many years, and this is the first I'm
> hearing of a self-firing one. The only "failure" I'm aware of is the
> tendency to go full auto. That happened at the range once. But even then
> it was easy to control.
>
> If a trigger catches on any weapon it may fire. Even a pocket pistol
> requires a holster to be safe.
>
> Greg
>
>
>> Semi-automatic.
>>
>> The bangers around here seem to favor 9mm or .45cal semi-automatic
>> pistols, or whatever stolen firearms they can buy off the skreets.
>> Commenters speculated this fine citizen had a Glock, which are prone to
>> spontaneous discharge.
>>
>> In any case the gene 🧬 pool was cleansed though no indication that he
>> was a doting father
>>
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>>
>
>
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[greg via Mercedes]

I carried a Glock 19 daily for many years, and this is the first I'm
hearing of a self-firing one. The only "failure" I'm aware of is the
tendency to go full auto. That happened at the range once. But even then
it was easy to control.

If a trigger catches on any weapon it may fire. Even a pocket pistol
requires a holster to be safe.

Greg


> Semi-automatic.
>
> The bangers around here seem to favor 9mm or .45cal semi-automatic
> pistols, or whatever stolen firearms they can buy off the skreets.
> Commenters speculated this fine citizen had a Glock, which are prone to
> spontaneous discharge.
>
> In any case the gene 🧬 pool was cleansed though no indication that he
> was a doting father
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>



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[G Mann via Mercedes]

Actually, Biodiesel B99 or B80 is a super degreaser. Oil spots in your
driveway spray it down with B99, give it a scrub.. wash it off...
clean..also, biodegradable.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 1:42 PM greg via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Biodiesel (B99) is a better, safer solvent than diesel. I use that in my
> passive dunk type bucket with a strainer inside. It works well.
>
> Greg
>
> > I was thinking that a small parts cleaner would be useful. I see this one
> > and it seems to be basically a box with a tray and some sort of
> > submersible pump to circulate cleaning solvent. Nothing exotic about
> that.
> > A comment says the pump is akin to a HF pump.
> >
> > Parts Washer 3.5 Gallon Capacity Tank Cabinet Portable Automotive Parts
> > Cleaner for Wheel Bearings, Gears, and carburetors (Blue)…
> > https://a.co/iweKjdH
> >
> > Anyone ever put something like this together?  Plastic storage bin, pump,
> > screen tray… not much engineering to that. Diesel fuel as cleaner
> > solvent?  Or some proper solvent?
> >
> > --FT
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[greg via Mercedes]

Biodiesel (B99) is a better, safer solvent than diesel. I use that in my
passive dunk type bucket with a strainer inside. It works well.

Greg

> I was thinking that a small parts cleaner would be useful. I see this one
> and it seems to be basically a box with a tray and some sort of
> submersible pump to circulate cleaning solvent. Nothing exotic about that.
> A comment says the pump is akin to a HF pump.
>
> Parts Washer 3.5 Gallon Capacity Tank Cabinet Portable Automotive Parts
> Cleaner for Wheel Bearings, Gears, and carburetors (Blue)…
> https://a.co/iweKjdH
>
> Anyone ever put something like this together?  Plastic storage bin, pump,
> screen tray… not much engineering to that. Diesel fuel as cleaner
> solvent?  Or some proper solvent?
>
> --FT
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[greg via Mercedes]

They are not a manufacturer. They sell others' products, and their
selections are fairly ok.

Greg

> I want to replace the center bearing and support on the driveshaft in my
> car.
>
> Rock Auto has Beck Arnley. Is that going to be as good as any other?
>
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Benz and Buick - $850 (Blue clay)

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> Hello Darkness My Old Friend
> I've Come to Talk With You Again
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCtouot15cA 
> 

The original is classic, for a reason.  But this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4 


a somewhat, ahem, _disturbed_ cover, is excellent.  Perhaps even better.

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Benz and Buick - $850 (Blue clay)

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I would rather invest in lottery tickets

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> On 2022-01-14 10:13, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > Great pics
> >
> >
> https://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/hampstead-benz-and-buick/7432611361.html
>
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Benz and Buick - $850 (Blue clay)

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On 2022-01-14 10:13, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Great pics

https://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/hampstead-benz-and-buick/7432611361.html


Hello Darkness My Old Friend
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT reverse crank call - missed oportunity

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Um...this is the first I've heard of this. Apparently this directive was
issued in '04, and I retired in '08 after 32 years in DOJ and DHS.

>From what I see on the 'netz, the order is about consistency of
credentials; so to be able to confirm identity from looking at
credentials.

I'm not sure how this could be done by phone.

When I was "on the job" I would sometimes ask for their boss's name, then
call the publicly available number and ask to speak to that person.

One time a manager asked me to help a female Interpol agent. My spidey
senses were tingling a little, so I told her I had never seen Interpol
creds and was curious. She was a phony!

Greg


> I just ask them for their HSPD-12 ID information.
>
> U.S. Government employees, such as with the IRS or other agencies are
> provided an HSPD-12 upon employment for verification of their employment.
> On the HSPD-12 is a number you can call to give the information on the
> HSPD-12 to and get a confirmation that the person is a real U.S.
> Government employee.
>
> They typically don’t have any idea of what I’m talking about so they
> hang up.
>
> -D
>
>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 3:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>> So I just got a robocall from the Federal Reserve, there has been some
>> illegal activity on my accounts, press 1 to speak to a Federal Reserve
>> Officer.
>>
>> OK, this could be FUN! I press 1...
>>
>> And they drop the call.  Darn!  I was all ready with "Special Agent
>> Kellog
>> here, FBI Charleston, what seems to be the problem?"
>> -
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Kirkland Oil, now Cooking Oil

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I bought a 2L container of almond cooking oil from Costo 6 months ago.
Never seen the stuff before or since.  It has excellent cooking properties
and is completely tasteless.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 3:57 PM greg via Mercedes 
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>
> Funny that you mention cooking oil! The most recent EVOO I got from Costco
> is Italian Olive Oil that has a DOP certification. The quality and flavor
> is noticeably better than their previous oils. It has a distinctly
> fresher, fruity, peppery flavor. I also notice that the Vinaigrette
> dressing I make with it stays liquid in the fridge.
>
> Highly recommended!
>
> Greg
>
> > Would that be Kirkland cooking oil from Costco?
> > Kirkland is their "house brand name", and since I never saw your original
> > post, I'm only guessing.
> > Fill me in on some details please.
> > [btw, welcome back from the great tech purge]
> >
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> >> During the mysterious time when Zuckerberg signed everybody off of
> >> Facebook the other day, it seems that my Gmail crashed as well and I
> >> never
> >> did see any response to the questions on the Kirkland oil. Who makes it,
> >> is
> >> it good, do we have any empirical data on this brew?
> >>
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Kirkland Oil, now Cooking Oil

[greg via Mercedes]

Funny that you mention cooking oil! The most recent EVOO I got from Costco
is Italian Olive Oil that has a DOP certification. The quality and flavor
is noticeably better than their previous oils. It has a distinctly
fresher, fruity, peppery flavor. I also notice that the Vinaigrette
dressing I make with it stays liquid in the fridge.

Highly recommended!

Greg

> Would that be Kirkland cooking oil from Costco?
> Kirkland is their "house brand name", and since I never saw your original
> post, I'm only guessing.
> Fill me in on some details please.
> [btw, welcome back from the great tech purge]
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 8:53 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> During the mysterious time when Zuckerberg signed everybody off of
>> Facebook the other day, it seems that my Gmail crashed as well and I
>> never
>> did see any response to the questions on the Kirkland oil. Who makes it,
>> is
>> it good, do we have any empirical data on this brew?
>>
>> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT beware of no-name or store-brand networking gear

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Our main Ethernet switch is Netgear.  The wifi access points are Apple,
and the main router is Mikrotik.  (It's been running 24/7 for just shy of
20 years, now, and is identical to the router that was on the ISP's tower
at the time of installation.)  There are a couple of small D-link Ethernet
switches that fanout some A/V clusters, too.

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IME ASUS are good build quality.

Greg


> I’ve used Asus for a number of years and been very happy with them.
> Avoid D-Link at all costs, as they’re cheaply built and do a lousy job
> of keeping things up to date. I bought one of their routers some years
> back and within four months of my purchase they had stopped maintaining
> the firmware, and it wasn’t even an end of life product yet.
>
> -D
>
>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>> TP Link isn't a no name brand. I've had one for a few years...
>> Curt
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>>  On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 7:50 AM, Mitch Haley via
>> Mercedes wrote:
>> What if I buy Toilet Paper Links instead of no-name, is that safe?
>>
>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/TP-Link-Archer-AX1800-4-Stream-Dual-Band-Wi-Fi-6-Wireless-Router-up-to-1-8-Gbps-Speeds-1-5-GHz-Quad-Core-CPU/210201077
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Looks like I get to spend several days in the hospital

[greg via Mercedes]

The state legislatures have not yet determined that the elections were so
messed up that they need to vote themselves.

Greg

> I have not watched the news lately so can somebody tell me if Trump won or
> lost?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 13, 2020, at 11:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
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>> Be sure to ask for the Okiebenz co-pay waiver.
>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 9:16 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Take care, glad you have it diagnosed!  Update us when you can,
>>> hospital
>>> stay is no fun.  Pro-tip: don't watch the news, watch car stuff
>>> instead.
>>> Or maybe funny cat videos.
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>>
>>> Nov 12, 2020 4:41:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>> >>> :
>>>
 Been having shortness of breath after just walking. Last night got
 much
>>> worse and had to cut a business trip short and go through ER.
>>> Apparently I
>>> have “lots” of blood clots in the lungs. They are going to put in 2
>>> caths
>>> and run them up to my lungs to remove the clots.

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Looks like I get to spend several days in the hospital

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 18:59:56 -0500 greg via Mercedes
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> Get well soon!
> 
> Greg

We will be praying for you.


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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Looks like I get to spend several days in the hospital

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Sorry to hear that. Best of luck with the treatment.
Gerry

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> 
> Greg
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> > worse and had to cut a business trip short and go through ER. Apparently I
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Get well soon!

Greg

> Been having shortness of breath after just walking. Last night got much
> worse and had to cut a business trip short and go through ER. Apparently I
> have “lots” of blood clots in the lungs. They are going to put in 2
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT: Wifi rebroadcasting

[greg via Mercedes]

2.4 GHz has a longer range fyi.

Greg


> I have an 802.11n signal in building 1.
> I want to distribute that signal in building 2, 350' away.
>
> I have a couple of old laptops I could spare.
> I'm thinking the easiest/cheapest thing I can do is put a long range USB
> dongle on a laptop, plug a decent 5GHz router (Tp-Link AX1800)? into the
> ethernet port on the laptop, and use the laptop to share the internet,
> maybe with Pi Hole software added.
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/210201077
>
> If so, what dongle should I get, something like this?
> https://www.amazon.com/KuWFi-Outdoor-Adapter-Antenna-Wireless/dp/B07BWC1CS1/
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: kit cars

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Mitch, I noticed that the 40 Ford coupe kit has the rare “Zündfolge” engine in 
it, too.

-D



> On Oct 23, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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> 
> http://kcclassicauto.com/1971_Volkswagen_40_Ford_Coupe_Beetle-1113-Lg.html
> 
> Then there was the Elegant Beetle (rolls royce grille)
> https://jalopnik.com/rolls-royce-once-sued-a-company-for-making-beetles-look-1684248416
> 
> And I remember JC Whitney selling rear hood decks with Continental tire 
> bulges on them.
> 
> On 2020-10-23 11:35, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not really a kit car but I knew a fellow way back when who had a new
>> shiny black VW bug with a '40 Ford hood and wide tires on nice shiny
>> chrome wheels.
>> I really like the way it looked.
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You’re right, Randy! I forgot about the “coupe” conversion kit. That was cool 
too.

-D

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> I don't fully recall but was there a different trunk lid too, or just the 
> hood. I have always liked the look of the '40 Ford so that Beetle conversion 
> appealed to me.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 23/10/2020 11:48 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>> http://kcclassicauto.com/1971_Volkswagen_40_Ford_Coupe_Beetle-1113-Lg.html 
>> 
>> Then there was the Elegant Beetle (rolls royce grille)
>> https://jalopnik.com/rolls-royce-once-sued-a-company-for-making-beetles-look-1684248416
>>  
>> 
>> And I remember JC Whitney selling rear hood decks with Continental tire 
>> bulges on them.
>> 
>> On 2020-10-23 11:35, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Not really a kit car but I knew a fellow way back when who had a new
>>> shiny black VW bug with a '40 Ford hood and wide tires on nice shiny
>>> chrome wheels.
>>> 
>>> I really like the way it looked.
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On 23/10/2020 12:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:


And who can forget the Porsche 911/930 kits?
Or better yet, a Pontiac Sunbird! (not a kit)


 Wow! Yuck!

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I don't fully recall but was there a different trunk lid too, or just 
the hood. I have always liked the look of the '40 Ford so that Beetle 
conversion appealed to me.


RB

On 23/10/2020 11:48 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
http://kcclassicauto.com/1971_Volkswagen_40_Ford_Coupe_Beetle-1113-Lg.html 



Then there was the Elegant Beetle (rolls royce grille)
https://jalopnik.com/rolls-royce-once-sued-a-company-for-making-beetles-look-1684248416 



And I remember JC Whitney selling rear hood decks with Continental 
tire bulges on them.


On 2020-10-23 11:35, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Not really a kit car but I knew a fellow way back when who had a new
shiny black VW bug with a '40 Ford hood and wide tires on nice shiny
chrome wheels.

I really like the way it looked.


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http://kcclassicauto.com/1971_Volkswagen_40_Ford_Coupe_Beetle-1113-Lg.html

Then there was the Elegant Beetle (rolls royce grille)
https://jalopnik.com/rolls-royce-once-sued-a-company-for-making-beetles-look-1684248416

And I remember JC Whitney selling rear hood decks with Continental tire 
bulges on them.


On 2020-10-23 11:35, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Not really a kit car but I knew a fellow way back when who had a new
shiny black VW bug with a '40 Ford hood and wide tires on nice shiny
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I really like the way it looked.


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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: A new job for Bob ...Now Fusion

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*Have to run.. I'm late for my daily Unicorn ride..*
Our HOA won't allow us to keep these as pets or as pack animals.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 10:50 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
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> All we need is a scientific breakthrough that overcomes both the laws of
> physics and reality... concurrently..
> Then,,, it will work and be free..
>
> Have to run.. I'm late for my daily Unicorn ride..
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 3:22 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > The high temperature superconductivity is the key to the smaller reactor,
> > which kind of obsoletes the ITER technology. Perhaps the time projections
> > are approaching reality as we overcome technological obstacles. It would
> be
> > nice :-)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan
> > Streib via Mercedes
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 3:05 PM
> > To: Craig via Mercedes
> > Cc: Allan Streib
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] A new job for Bob ...
> >
> > Fusion is coming in the next decade (as it has been since 1955)
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sJ4iCVCgA8
> >
> >
> >
> > Craig via Mercedes  writes:
> >
> > > On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 20:55:26 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >> And will the use of Thorium in reactors cause the cost of thoriated
> > >> lantern mantles to go up?
> > >
> > > Are they even available now? I recall hearing comments about the new
> > > mantles being less bright because they did not have thorium.
> > >
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: A new job for Bob ...Now Fusion

[G Mann via Mercedes]

All we need is a scientific breakthrough that overcomes both the laws of
physics and reality... concurrently..
Then,,, it will work and be free..

Have to run.. I'm late for my daily Unicorn ride..

On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 3:22 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The high temperature superconductivity is the key to the smaller reactor,
> which kind of obsoletes the ITER technology. Perhaps the time projections
> are approaching reality as we overcome technological obstacles. It would be
> nice :-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan
> Streib via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 3:05 PM
> To: Craig via Mercedes
> Cc: Allan Streib
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] A new job for Bob ...
>
> Fusion is coming in the next decade (as it has been since 1955)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sJ4iCVCgA8
>
>
>
> Craig via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 20:55:26 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> And will the use of Thorium in reactors cause the cost of thoriated
> >> lantern mantles to go up?
> >
> > Are they even available now? I recall hearing comments about the new
> > mantles being less bright because they did not have thorium.
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
>
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: A new job for Bob ...Now Fusion

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

The high temperature superconductivity is the key to the smaller reactor, which 
kind of obsoletes the ITER technology. Perhaps the time projections are 
approaching reality as we overcome technological obstacles. It would be nice :-)

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib 
via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 3:05 PM
To: Craig via Mercedes
Cc: Allan Streib
Subject: Re: [MBZ] A new job for Bob ...

Fusion is coming in the next decade (as it has been since 1955)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sJ4iCVCgA8



Craig via Mercedes  writes:

> On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 20:55:26 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>> And will the use of Thorium in reactors cause the cost of thoriated
>> lantern mantles to go up?
>
> Are they even available now? I recall hearing comments about the new
> mantles being less bright because they did not have thorium.
>
>
> Craig
>

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Hoovie's old Benzes

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

My ML had lots of service records from dealers listed in the carfax Kaleb sent 
me. That was a big help to pull the trigger.

Greg 

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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 9:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hoovie's old Benzes

And the dealer-serviced, high mileage 2014 GLK 250 for which I paid $1500
less than comparable examples.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Good example is the E320 CDI I sold Kaleb.  Dealer maintained from 0 to
> 317k, I got it with 327k.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 1, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > With a little effort you can find an old Benz that does have service
> > records which coupled with high mileage, could be a bargain.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:30 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You really don't know this group do you?
> >> How many cars do you think have been purchased by folks on this forum in
> >> the past 10 years that had any significant history of service?
> >> Most of what these folks appear to be looking for is a cheap car that
> >> might be repairable.
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
> >> On 01/10/2020 11:17 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Never buy a Mercedes that has no service history.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 10:22 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Bought some overpriced POSs sight unseen
> 
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqJVIin8kN4
> 
>  --
>  --FT
> 
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: wow. watch the vid

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I once was thinking of relocating to there. Glad I didn't!

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:01 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wow. watch the vid

Yes, glad I don't live in Minniehopless, be ready for November 4th!
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Sep 22, 2020 10:22:14 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/09/minneapolis-guilty-whites-think-blm-lawn-signs-katie-hopkins/
> 
> -- 
> --FT
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT - Chain Saw Recommendations

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Early Sunday morning my next door neighbor had someone cutting down a big tree 
right next to his house. I thought it odd to start a project like that at 0800 
Sunday, but I'm an early riser so no big deal. As I watched the weather report 
yesterday evening, and watched the standing snags on the county property behind 
my house swaying crazily in the wind, I wondered if my insurance coverage is 
high enough!

I need to call my agent, as well as ask the county about those trees.

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 3:42 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kevin Kraly
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations

We have had a Crazy East wind event here in Western Oregon with nearly 30MPH 
sustained winds with gusts to 60-70MPH! It was enough to topple a significant 
section of the neighbor’s poplar tree sending it through the fence, across the 
shared private driveway and nearly into another neighbor’s living room window! 
He got his Stihl chain saw out  and got right to work. That 20” saw was 
awesome! It didn’t have any trouble, and restarted easily.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB 1600mi, Low Mileage Lutgard
1982 240D 200K+ miles with a 112Kmi engine, High Mileage Hildegard, still up on 
the lift 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Stihl.  All the others are crap.  Make sure to use the synthetic oil to mix 
> into the gas
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 9/8/20 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> In an effort to become better prepared should a large storm/hurricane pass 
>> through, I am considering purchasing a chain saw.
>> 
>> Since it would be something I would rarely use, I’m not looking to buy a 
>> large professional grade Husqvarna or something like that necessarily. 
>> However, I would like a good quality saw, not a HF sort of machine.
>> 
>> Suggestions?
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: PSA from Okie Acres Home Remodelers

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Tue, September 8, 2020 3:21 pm, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> Here's a related PSA:
>
>
> Anyone repairing bobwire fences, before hammering a new staple into the
> fencepost, check the ground at the base of the post for a yellow jacket
> nest. They do not like the vibrations caused by the hammering, and will
> announce their displeasure in a painful way.

They don't like having lawn mowers driven over their ground nests either.
If it's a riding mower, you'll find out, in spades, on your next pass.

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: PSA from Okie Acres Home Remodelers

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Here's a related PSA:

Anyone repairing bobwire fences, before hammering a new staple into the 
fencepost, check the ground at the base of the post for a yellow jacket nest. 
They do not like the vibrations caused by the hammering, and will announce 
their displeasure in a painful way.

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 11:06 AM
To: OK Don via Mercedes
Cc: Allan Streib
Subject: Re: [MBZ] PSA from Okie Acres Home Remodelers

While working on the cursed Focus alternator replacement (successful,
finally) I failed to notice a nest of yellow jackets in the ground
behind my work area. This is the time of year that they seem to be
really active/aggressive around here.

One of them nailed me in the wrist on Sunday afternoon. My left forearm
now looks like Popeye the Sailor's arm (OK not quite that bad but
definitely puffy, swollen, tight skin, some clear fluid weeping in
spots, from the mid-forearm down to my knuckles. Cannot make a fist with
that hand right now due to the swelling.

I react that way to yellow jackets. Not much to do about it but wait it
out. Bee stings, other wasps don't seem to have nearly that effect.

I dispatched the nest that evening with a big load of insecticide spray,
after they had all returned for the night.

Allan


OK Don via Mercedes  writes:

> I have wondered, but never followed up on whether the liquid bandages are
> non-allergenic or not. I have become very sensitive to either latex or the
> adhesive in typical bandages - they raise guey welts on my skin, no fun.
> The non-allergenic bandages are oftentimes hard to find and the choice of
> sizes very limited. Liquid Bandages, if not toxic to me would be great, as
> my wife always points out that I make a blood sacrifice to almost every
> project!
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 11:24 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
>> My go to first aid for cuts on fingers is some stuff called "Liquid
>> Bandage".
>> As soon as you have the bleeding slowed down, you paint in on like nail
>> polish. It has blood stop and antibacterial as well as sealing up the
>> injury. Dries in a couple minutes. I always paint on a couple of coats for
>> added coverage.
>> It gives a flexible and secure patch over the injury that is waterproof. It
>> lasts for 3 to 4 days depending on how much you use your hand and how much
>> you scrub with soap and water. You can always add more layers over the
>> injury.
>>
>> I like it a lot because, unlike bandaids, which always come off as you
>> work, it stays and protects.
>> Almost all the drug stores carry it, some under a house brand package, but
>> it's the same stuff. Also, not expensive.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:52 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > A band aid. If that didn’t work I did have a roll of duct tape available.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > > On Sep 8, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > So did you use duct tape, super glue or stitches to close the wound?
>> > > Max Dillon
>> > > Charleston SC
>> > >
>> > > Sep 8, 2020 9:03:08 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>> > >
>> > >> A tape measure can slice your finger like a hot knife thru butter if
>> > said finger is in the wrong place at that wrong time while retracting the
>> > tape measure.
>> > >>
>> > >> Sent from my iPhone
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>
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: The rental house AC

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yup. Had this in my last house. PO replaced the air handler/evaporator in 2010 
and it was still an R22 system. When the compressor bit the big one in 2016, we 
had to replace the air handler/evaporator because the system had to be R410a.

-D

> On Sep 2, 2020, at 8:59 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's my experience too.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb 
> Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 5:35 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC
> 
> As far as I know the units are usually replaced at the same time.
> 
> On 9/2/2020 6:48 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>> Your existing air handler coil may not be compatible with R410a, which runs 
>> at higher pressures.
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 7:41 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC
>>> 
>>> This is a 15 year old simple R22 unit. If the compressor is bad I am not 
>>> sure it
>>> would be cost effective for them to try and replace that rather than just
>>> replacing the whole unit. But as long as it works I don’t really care
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 2, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
 Sounds like the repair guts didn't really troubleshoot so the fix will 
 take
>>> several return trips until they finally replace the right part(s).
 Often, the same capacitor (dual unit) supports the fan and compressor and
>>> capacitors do fail.  Fan motor failure is not unusual after, maybe, 10 
>>> years but
>>> the compressor should start up anyway as soon as it sees 24v on the "Y" wire
>>> (unless it's in timeout, typical for 5 min after shutdown).
 Most units have low and high pressure cutout switches (a possible problem
>>> source too).  The high pressure cutout is immediate but the compressor and
>>> fan should run for a couple minutes before they shut down for low pressure.
 If the compressor is bad the fix is a difficult and costly but less than 
 replacing
>>> the whole condenser.
 The old (on or off) style units are pretty simple and most parts are 
 generic
>>> except the control board.  But there are newer inverter (variable speed) and
>>> dual speed types that have unique parts and designs.
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 5:26 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC
> 
> They said they were ordering a new one from Trane. Hopefully that is
> what happens. I’m still wondering if the fan quit working and it
> burned up the compressor. You would think they would habe checked
> that because it’s not like compressor kicks on then shuts off later
> if pressure gets too high. It just does not kick on at all.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>> Make sure they replace it with a real fan and not a cheapo "rescue" 
>> motor.
>> 
>> I was away once and the fan motor went out (this is the condenser
>> cooling
> fan) and the guy came and put in a new one, was like $500, my wife paid
>>> him.
> Fan goes out again less than a year later, I call the guy, he comes
> out and finds a rescue motor instead of the real deal.  So I tell him
> we paid like $500 for this, why is it a substandard unit?  He hems
> and haws and tells me he can put in the right motor but he'll have to
> charge me $75 for a visit. I tell him how about you do what your guy
> was supposed to have done, and you charged us for, and I won't see
> you in court.  He got all pissy but put in the right motor.  His
> wife, who ran the books, called me 2-3 times wanting the $75 and I told 
> her
>>> to bugger off, she finally stopped calling.
>> Turns out his guy was doing this to everyone, billing for the real
>> motor but
> putting in a cheapo and pocketing the cash.  He got fired but the
> business owner was still trying to charge me for his guy's fraud,
> probably everyone else too, to get a little back on what he was screwed 
> out
>>> of.  Go figure.
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 9/2/20 4:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Inside unit comes on but outside unit doesn’t. When it’s turned on
>>> you hear
> a semi loud click. That sound was the contactor pulling in. Put in a
> service request with the warranty people. They came out today. Fan
> was bad, ordering a new one. I guess if the fan is bad it 

[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: The rental house AC

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

That's my experience too.

Greg

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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 5:35 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC

As far as I know the units are usually replaced at the same time.

On 9/2/2020 6:48 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> Your existing air handler coil may not be compatible with R410a, which runs 
> at higher pressures.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 7:41 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC
>>
>> This is a 15 year old simple R22 unit. If the compressor is bad I am not 
>> sure it
>> would be cost effective for them to try and replace that rather than just
>> replacing the whole unit. But as long as it works I don’t really care
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>> Sounds like the repair guts didn't really troubleshoot so the fix will take
>> several return trips until they finally replace the right part(s).
>>> Often, the same capacitor (dual unit) supports the fan and compressor and
>> capacitors do fail.  Fan motor failure is not unusual after, maybe, 10 years 
>> but
>> the compressor should start up anyway as soon as it sees 24v on the "Y" wire
>> (unless it's in timeout, typical for 5 min after shutdown).
>>> Most units have low and high pressure cutout switches (a possible problem
>> source too).  The high pressure cutout is immediate but the compressor and
>> fan should run for a couple minutes before they shut down for low pressure.
>>> If the compressor is bad the fix is a difficult and costly but less than 
>>> replacing
>> the whole condenser.
>>> The old (on or off) style units are pretty simple and most parts are generic
>> except the control board.  But there are newer inverter (variable speed) and
>> dual speed types that have unique parts and designs.
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 5:26 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC

 They said they were ordering a new one from Trane. Hopefully that is
 what happens. I’m still wondering if the fan quit working and it
 burned up the compressor. You would think they would habe checked
 that because it’s not like compressor kicks on then shuts off later
 if pressure gets too high. It just does not kick on at all.

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
  wrote:
> Make sure they replace it with a real fan and not a cheapo "rescue" 
> motor.
>
> I was away once and the fan motor went out (this is the condenser
> cooling
 fan) and the guy came and put in a new one, was like $500, my wife paid
>> him.
 Fan goes out again less than a year later, I call the guy, he comes
 out and finds a rescue motor instead of the real deal.  So I tell him
 we paid like $500 for this, why is it a substandard unit?  He hems
 and haws and tells me he can put in the right motor but he'll have to
 charge me $75 for a visit. I tell him how about you do what your guy
 was supposed to have done, and you charged us for, and I won't see
 you in court.  He got all pissy but put in the right motor.  His
 wife, who ran the books, called me 2-3 times wanting the $75 and I told her
>> to bugger off, she finally stopped calling.
> Turns out his guy was doing this to everyone, billing for the real
> motor but
 putting in a cheapo and pocketing the cash.  He got fired but the
 business owner was still trying to charge me for his guy's fraud,
 probably everyone else too, to get a little back on what he was screwed out
>> of.  Go figure.
> --FT
>
>> On 9/2/20 4:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Inside unit comes on but outside unit doesn’t. When it’s turned on
>> you hear
 a semi loud click. That sound was the contactor pulling in. Put in a
 service request with the warranty people. They came out today. Fan
 was bad, ordering a new one. I guess if the fan is bad it prevents
 the unit from kicking on so it doesn’t burn up the compressor?
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Now that we are surfing OT BaTs

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

When i lived in NYC in late 60's  in Morningside heights near 125th street
we had a ragman with horse drawn wagon  & a tin horn he used to announce
his presence. Early form of recycling.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 6:34 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> We had a few horse-drawn tradesmen in the Brooklyn of my youth to include
> a knife-sharpener and the Watermelon Man made famous by song.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now that we are surfing OT BaTs
>
> I vividly remember a "Mr. Plancher" who delivered produce in a horse drawn
> wagon (!) to our apartment building in mid-town Manhattan (NY).  This was
> in the early '50s.
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 10:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > This thing just fascinates me.  I vaguely remember stand-up milk
> > delivery trucks when I was very young
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1934-twin-coach-delivery-truck/
> >
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Now that we are surfing OT BaTs

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

We had a few horse-drawn tradesmen in the Brooklyn of my youth to include a 
knife-sharpener and the Watermelon Man made famous by song.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now that we are surfing OT BaTs

I vividly remember a "Mr. Plancher" who delivered produce in a horse drawn
wagon (!) to our apartment building in mid-town Manhattan (NY).  This was
in the early '50s.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 10:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This thing just fascinates me.  I vaguely remember stand-up milk
> delivery trucks when I was very young
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1934-twin-coach-delivery-truck/
>
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Skeet with prizes!

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I got one of the C-note Norincos with the AK style mags. For such an 
inexpensive weapon I was surprised to see the heavily chrome-lined chamber and 
bore. It looks like it willtake plenty of abuse.

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 11:11 AM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Skeet with prizes!

Nice. That could be fun.

The youngest son and I were trying out our sporting clay club’s new rifle range 
today. 100 yards long, which is nice.

I took my Yugoslavian SKS and the youngster took his new Remington 700 
chambered in 300 magnum. Needless to say he has a very sore shoulder. I do not, 
as the SKS was hitting steels flawlessly with minimal recoil. Gotta love those 
stripper clips.

Lots of fun was had by all.

-D

> On Aug 31, 2020, at 12:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/faa-clears-amazon-s-fleet-of-prime-air-drones-for-liftoff/ar-BB18yBIt?li=BBnbcA1
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: RE: W124 rear subframe mount rust repair

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On Fri, August 28, 2020 7:38 pm, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> Mine did not have that problem. My, but that car was fun to drive!
>
>
> It was a red ticket magnet.
>

Mine is Cardinalrod Metallic, but the original owners had the whole car
repainted when they had some damage repaired, and it came out dark
nonmetallic burgundy, which was horribly checked by the time I bought it
in 1984. They refused to disclose who did the horrible paint work. By the
end of the 1980s it was starting to peel off, revealing the cardinal red
below. But by the end of the 1980s, the trunk was so rusty one of the gas
tank holding straps fell off.

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: RE: W124 rear subframe mount rust repair

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Mine did not have that problem. My, but that car was fun to drive!

It was a red ticket magnet.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: W124 rear subframe mount rust repair

On Fri, August 28, 2020 6:42 pm, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> Mine rusted & busted on my 77 EMS also. I was commuting on a very
> potholed road at the time. My mechanical engineer brother designed a
> repair much stronger than the original.

What about the lower front shock mounts on the control arms?
I broke one, ruining a Bilstein shock in the process, got both
welded/reinforced, then rebroke the broken one again within a month, about
exactly the time my right rear upper tower gave out. And I lived on a dirt
road back then.

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: W124 rear subframe mount rust repair

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Fri, August 28, 2020 6:42 pm, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> Mine rusted & busted on my 77 EMS also. I was commuting on a very
> potholed road at the time. My mechanical engineer brother designed a
> repair much stronger than the original.

What about the lower front shock mounts on the control arms?
I broke one, ruining a Bilstein shock in the process, got both
welded/reinforced, then rebroke the broken one again within a month, about
exactly the time my right rear upper tower gave out. And I lived on a dirt
road back then.

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: W124 rear subframe mount rust repair

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Mine rusted & busted on my 77 EMS also. I was commuting on a very potholed road 
at the time. My mechanical engineer brother designed a repair much stronger 
than the original.

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 rear subframe mount rust repair

The before pictures look like the rear shock towers in my 1977 Saab,
around 1985 or so.

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: USCG Sharkshooter

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On Fri, August 28, 2020 2:49 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> I think there was at least one big inflatable swan I saw in the video. I
> thought that was kind of comical, a bunch of Coasties playing around in
> the middle of the ocean on an inflatable pool toy.

Coasties shouldn't be playing in the middle of the sea with a pool toy.
Sounds more like a job for a pre-schooler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3Jg-o_pyOE

Is this the video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmylElajet8

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: USCG Sharkshooter

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I think there was at least one big inflatable swan I saw in the video. I 
thought that was kind of comical, a bunch of Coasties playing around in the 
middle of the ocean on an inflatable pool toy.

Thank him for his service, please, and yours if you served as well.

-D

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No unicorns were harmed as a result of the defensive action!
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 11:43 AM
> To: Okie Benz
> Cc: Dan Penoff
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: USCG Sharkshooter
> 
> Where are their inflatable water toys? I noticed those in the video, too.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You may have seen a clip of the USCG swim party that was broken up by a 
>> large predator. This was from USCGC Kimball, my boy's former post. The 
>> "Sharkshooter" would have to be my son's replacement, the lead enforcement 
>> non-com.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Image may contain: one or more people, ocean, sky, outdoor, water and nature
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: USCG Sharkshooter

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

No unicorns were harmed as a result of the defensive action!

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: USCG Sharkshooter

Where are their inflatable water toys? I noticed those in the video, too.

-D

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You may have seen a clip of the USCG swim party that was broken up by a large 
> predator. This was from USCGC Kimball, my boy's former post. The 
> "Sharkshooter" would have to be my son's replacement, the lead enforcement 
> non-com.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: cookbook

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

A new and nasty snacking chip from Frito-Lay?

Greg

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Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 11:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookbook

Sounds like that’s what happens *after* you eat them.

-D

> On Aug 27, 2020, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> WHat do you do with shishitos?
> 
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 11:21 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I just picked my fourth batch of shishitos, my one plant is incredibly
>> prolific
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 8/27/20 10:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>> Here we have no poblanos.  Just jalapenos, habaneros, shishito, and
>>> serranos.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:05 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>My poblanos are producing a lot!
>>> 
>>>--FT
>>>Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 26, 2020, at 9:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>>>mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 TWO recipes for chile rellenos!
 
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:44 PM OK Don via Mercedes
>>>mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
> wrote:
> 
> Good find! Thanks for sharing.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 6:14 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> 
>> Excellent! I see some good recipes!  Thank you!
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I ran into this on the web and thought some of you might
>>>enjoy it.
>>> 
>>> It is a cookbook offered in celebration of the 19th amendment
>>>to the US
>> Constitution, which gave women the right to vote.
>>> 
>>> That happened 100 years ago today according to the article.
>>> 
>>> https://www.19thamendmentcookbook.com/cookbook/cookbook.pdf
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Over Filled My Oil (Curt)

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Sat, August 22, 2020 3:11 pm, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> I would play it safe and suck some out. Easy for me with my Mity-Vac.
> Some engines have strict instructions not to overfill.

0.4qt doesn't sound like much, but what does the dipstick say after you
run the engine and park it for a while on the flat and level? If the
overfill is some small fraction of the distance between full and add, it
might be OK, if it's 1/2" high, definitely drain it.

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Over Filled My Oil (Curt)

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I would play it safe and suck some out. Easy for me with my Mity-Vac. Some 
engines have strict instructions not to overfill.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Over Filled My Oil (Curt)

On my 2014 Passat TDI I over-filled my crankcase by 0.5 quart (neighbor was 
yappin’ at me and I was distracted). 
I never have over-filled anything ever In my life. 
Is 0.5 qt a big deal? Essentially, I added almost 5 quarts and the capacity is 
4.6 quarts. 

Bob R

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[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Are you still heating with resistance?

Yes.  But, with substantial wood auxiliary heat.

> So all consumption of electricity within the house is absolutely free in
> winter, unless it sends warm water down the drain or photons out a window?

Don't forget the electric dryer.  (I don't use it, but my wife won't NOT use 
it.)

-- Jim


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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Thu, August 20, 2020 2:40 pm, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
> My only complaint is that in high summer, the
> heat it (and the big monitor) kick out is a little unwelcome.  In winter,
> just the opposite.

Are you still heating with resistance?
So all consumption of electricity within the house is absolutely free in
winter, unless it sends warm water down the drain or photons out a window?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT lightning hit

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Thu, August 20, 2020 2:24 pm, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

> The (unplugged) power cord _alone_ is enough of an antenna to destroy
> sensitive electronics if the lightning strike is close enough.  Lightning
> is the original 500# Gorilla.  It sleeps wherever it wants to.

Which is why there are Youtube vids of people testing Faraday cans from
Home Depot. (short version, taping around the lid with conductive metal
tape makes for a pretty good shield)

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Behrens-31-Gal-Galvanized-Steel-Round-Trash-Can-with-Lid-1270/100202118



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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT - VirtualBox & Copying a VM to a Physical Machine

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> The big issue with VB and the Mac side is SIP. It creates all sorts of havoc 
> when it come to modifying the new disk, as SIP doesn’t want you to do it.

I don't recall any such problems with it.  I'm using VirtualBox 6.0.20, hosting 
Mac OS 10.6 (non-Server, via tricks), and 10.7,
along with linux.  It is running as me, not root.  The old Mac OSs don't have 
SIP, and whatever VBox is doing doesn't seem to
run afoul of it on the High Sierra host OS.  I am using VMware Fusion 11 for 
Windows 10, and Linux.  I am using Qemu for
simulating the ARM for Raspberry Pi.

This cheese grater kicks ass, so far as I am concerned.  Running non-stop since 
late May, and busy every day.  Perhaps no
longer a speed demon, but plenty fast enough for me.  My only complaint is that 
in high summer, the heat it (and the big monitor)
kick out is a little unwelcome.  In winter, just the opposite.

-- Jim


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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The big issue with VB and the Mac side is SIP. It creates all sorts of havoc 
when it come to modifying the new disk, as SIP doesn’t want you to do it.

I toyed with the idea of running VB as root, but that’s a scary thing and could 
potentially bodge up my machine.

I know this can be done, I’m just not sure how - yet.

-D

> On Aug 20, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Apparently there are ways to create a vmdk file that “points” at a physical 
>> drive, but I’ve been unsuccessful in getting this to work.
> 
> I was chasing doing this at one time, and I thought I'd gotten it to work.  
> It is _not_ a trivial process.
> Then again, maybe I never did get it to work and gave up.  I was trying to 
> get Mac OS 10.6 to boot
> in a VMware partition, against a physical disk that could also be booted 
> directly to 10.6, but of course
> you have to reboot the box to do it that way, which I did not want to do.  My 
> biggest problem was
> VMware vs 10.6 (non-server), which is not only un-supported but is actively 
> discriminated against.
> (10.6 has Rosetta, which was the purpose of the exercise.  That, and 
> configuring original Airport Express
> modules, which only the OLD utility will talk to.)
> 
> I gave up and went with VirtualBox instead, and abandoned the physical 10.6 
> disk.  (Which is still
> in the machine, and could be booted to if I cared.)
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT lightning hit

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I flipped breakers after unplugging delicate electronics from the wall in 
> preparation

The (unplugged) power cord _alone_ is enough of an antenna to destroy sensitive 
electronics
if the lightning strike is close enough.  Lightning is the original 500# 
Gorilla.  It sleeps wherever
it wants to.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT - VirtualBox & Copying a VM to a Physical Machine

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Apparently there are ways to create a vmdk file that “points” at a physical 
> drive, but I’ve been unsuccessful in getting this to work.

I was chasing doing this at one time, and I thought I'd gotten it to work.  It 
is _not_ a trivial process.
Then again, maybe I never did get it to work and gave up.  I was trying to get 
Mac OS 10.6 to boot
in a VMware partition, against a physical disk that could also be booted 
directly to 10.6, but of course
you have to reboot the box to do it that way, which I did not want to do.  My 
biggest problem was
VMware vs 10.6 (non-server), which is not only un-supported but is actively 
discriminated against.
(10.6 has Rosetta, which was the purpose of the exercise.  That, and 
configuring original Airport Express
modules, which only the OLD utility will talk to.)

I gave up and went with VirtualBox instead, and abandoned the physical 10.6 
disk.  (Which is still
in the machine, and could be booted to if I cared.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT lightning hit

[Clay via Mercedes]

My Granny claimed there was no lightning in Seattle.  That seems to have 
changed, as I do no recall much as a child when living there, but over the past 
40 years there have been a number of really healthy storms each year, with 
sheet lightning and all the cool spangles and booms I learned about from Cliff 
Mass.  

Nothing as marvelous as the storms found in the semi and full tropics, but 
enough that I flipped breakers after unplugging delicate electronics from the 
wall in preparation for being GWN for months on end.

clay


> On Aug 20, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here in my part of the PNW we don't get a lot of lightning. But back when I 
> lived on the east coast I had a strike takeout the serial port of my Kaypro 
> II through the phone line. The socketed chip was easy enough to replace.
> 
> Greg

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT - VirtualBox & Copying a VM to a Physical Machine

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not sure what you’re describing (I know what you’re talking about as far as 
partitions.)

The existing hard drive isn’t large enough for the STAR VM. Native hard drive 
in the laptop is 100GB. The VM is 95GB. Wouldn’t be enough room for the OS.

This is why I want to clone/copy the VM to a hard drive. Once done, I can put 
it in the laptop and run directly off what used to be the VM.

-D

> On Aug 20, 2020, at 1:18 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps I'm ignorant enough to come up with a solution:
> 
> Why couldn't you create a new partition, clone the HD to the new partition, 
> et voila!
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 9:42 AM
> To: Mercedes List
> Cc: Dan Penoff
> Subject: [MBZ] OT - VirtualBox & Copying a VM to a Physical Machine
> 
> My STAR system is on a VM that runs off an external drive. It works fine, but 
> it’s sluggish and I don’t care to have the hassle of an external drive. I 
> found a larger hard drive for my laptop, but I want to move the VM to the 
> larger hard drive and put it into the laptop as the boot drive.
> 
> I have both VMware Workstation on a PC as well as VirtualBox on a PC and my 
> Mac. Here’s the process I want to use:
> 
> STAR VM
> Clonezilla ISO
> 320 GB IDE hard drive connected to host via USB
> 
> I’ll set up the Clonezilla ISO to boot, which should allow me to copy the VM 
> to the physical drive. This is a common method to copy a VM to a physical 
> device.
> 
> Here’s the rub:
> 
> I can’t get the VM to recognize the USB connected drive as a hard drive. 
> While it gives me the ability to add one via the VM settings, it wants to see 
> a .vmdk or similar virtual drive, not a physical drive. Apparently there are 
> ways to create a vmdk file that “points” at a physical drive, but I’ve been 
> unsuccessful in getting this to work.
> 
> I’m stumped as to how to proceed at this point. There’s got to be a way to 
> get the VM to recognize the USB hard drive.
> 
> 
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT - VirtualBox & Copying a VM to a Physical Machine

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Perhaps I'm ignorant enough to come up with a solution:

Why couldn't you create a new partition, clone the HD to the new partition, et 
voila!

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 9:42 AM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: [MBZ] OT - VirtualBox & Copying a VM to a Physical Machine

My STAR system is on a VM that runs off an external drive. It works fine, but 
it’s sluggish and I don’t care to have the hassle of an external drive. I found 
a larger hard drive for my laptop, but I want to move the VM to the larger hard 
drive and put it into the laptop as the boot drive.

I have both VMware Workstation on a PC as well as VirtualBox on a PC and my 
Mac. Here’s the process I want to use:

STAR VM
Clonezilla ISO
320 GB IDE hard drive connected to host via USB

I’ll set up the Clonezilla ISO to boot, which should allow me to copy the VM to 
the physical drive. This is a common method to copy a VM to a physical device.

Here’s the rub:

I can’t get the VM to recognize the USB connected drive as a hard drive. While 
it gives me the ability to add one via the VM settings, it wants to see a .vmdk 
or similar virtual drive, not a physical drive. Apparently there are ways to 
create a vmdk file that “points” at a physical drive, but I’ve been 
unsuccessful in getting this to work.

I’m stumped as to how to proceed at this point. There’s got to be a way to get 
the VM to recognize the USB hard drive.



-D
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT lightning hit

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Here in my part of the PNW we don't get a lot of lightning. But back when I 
lived on the east coast I had a strike takeout the serial port of my Kaypro II 
through the phone line. The socketed chip was easy enough to replace.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
Ritchey via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 8:39 AM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Cc: Scott Ritchey
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit

I think we were preoccupied by fear before the lightning strike.  It was almost 
dark, even at midday, the wind was very loud, the raindrops actually hurt, and 
we had no visual references..  The excitement was really in retrospect.  The 
"bang" was really loud and I think it stunned us, like a "flash-bang" grenade.  
We only realized what happened after the fact when we regained our senses.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 7:37 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit

Wow, that must have been *exciting*

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Aug 20, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My most exciting (and odd) lightning encounter was in a 30 ft. sail boat 
> returning from the Destin inlet.  A storm came up suddenly so we motored 
> under full power into the wind (under bare poles).  The rain was so dense we 
> could not even see the bow so we steered by compass. The flash and bang were 
> simultaneous.  Folks in the cockpit pointed forward at the very close 
> lightning strike.  Folks in the cabin pointed aft, also at a very close 
> strike.  Either there were two simultaneous lightning bolts or one bolt split 
> and hit in front and behind us.  I remembered the hair on my arms standing up 
> just before the lightning strike.  As the rain abated we saw we had been 
> blown backwards about 1/4 mile despite using full power.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT lightning hit

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I was thinking the same thing. Our modem has been in place 4 years now, the 
rental would have cost the same as what I paid every 18 months...
-Curt

On Wednesday, August 19, 2020, 7:00:27 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I bought my own modem a few years back when I realized I would be money ahead 
in less than a year not paying the rental. In your situation that might not be 
the best plan!

Greg

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Benzmail via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:50 PM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Buggered Benzmail
Subject: [MBZ] OT lightning hit

Was sitting at my desk At the computer yesterday during a thunderwhumper that 
was rolling through. Got a big ZAP right there, thought I had been hit by 
lightning, heard the boom a half second later back behind the house  so the 
strike was very close by. Not sure what it hit, tree in the woods or something 
I guess. Fried my uverse modem which is about 6ft from where I was sitting so 
I’m thinking it came through the (buried) phone line. Again. 

This is like the fifth time this has happened, I guess the lightning induces a 
high voltage spike in the line. I try to tell the ATT people I need an arrestor 
or surge suppressor or something on the network interface but it doesn’t sink 
in.  So they send me a new modem every couple of years. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT lightning hit

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

They may well have found that they save money by NOT making them more 
lightning-proof.

-- Jim


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[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Proprietary uverse modem but they keep replacing them so aside from being 
offline for a coupla days it’s not a financial hit. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bought my own modem a few years back when I realized I would be money 
> ahead in less than a year not paying the rental. In your situation that might 
> not be the best plan!
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Buggered 
> Benzmail via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:50 PM
> To: Mercedes List
> Cc: Buggered Benzmail
> Subject: [MBZ] OT lightning hit
> 
> Was sitting at my desk At the computer yesterday during a thunderwhumper that 
> was rolling through. Got a big ZAP right there, thought I had been hit by 
> lightning, heard the boom a half second later back behind the house  so the 
> strike was very close by. Not sure what it hit, tree in the woods or 
> something I guess. Fried my uverse modem which is about 6ft from where I was 
> sitting so I’m thinking it came through the (buried) phone line. Again. 
> 
> This is like the fifth time this has happened, I guess the lightning induces 
> a high voltage spike in the line. I try to tell the ATT people I need an 
> arrestor or surge suppressor or something on the network interface but it 
> doesn’t sink in.  So they send me a new modem every couple of years. 
> 
> --FT
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT lightning hit

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I bought my own modem a few years back when I realized I would be money ahead 
in less than a year not paying the rental. In your situation that might not be 
the best plan!

Greg

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Benzmail via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:50 PM
To: Mercedes List
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Subject: [MBZ] OT lightning hit

Was sitting at my desk At the computer yesterday during a thunderwhumper that 
was rolling through. Got a big ZAP right there, thought I had been hit by 
lightning, heard the boom a half second later back behind the house  so the 
strike was very close by. Not sure what it hit, tree in the woods or something 
I guess. Fried my uverse modem which is about 6ft from where I was sitting so 
I’m thinking it came through the (buried) phone line. Again. 

This is like the fifth time this has happened, I guess the lightning induces a 
high voltage spike in the line. I try to tell the ATT people I need an arrestor 
or surge suppressor or something on the network interface but it doesn’t sink 
in.  So they send me a new modem every couple of years. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: 210 rear wheel bearings

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Good idea. I have one of those. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Aug 13, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Try checking with a non-contact thermometer to see where there is too much 
> heat after a run.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Benzmail via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 2:27 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Buggered Benzmail
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 210 rear wheel bearings
> 
> I think I did that a coupla months ago and did not notice much difference but 
> I will check again. 
> 
> Pinion bearings difficult?
> 
> FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It could also be the diff pinion bearings.
>> 
>> Does it change when you turn to the left or to the right, i.e.,
>> load/unload the right/left side?
>> 
>> 
>> Crai
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: 210 rear wheel bearings

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Try checking with a non-contact thermometer to see where there is too much heat 
after a run.

Greg

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Benzmail via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 2:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 210 rear wheel bearings

I think I did that a coupla months ago and did not notice much difference but I 
will check again. 

Pinion bearings difficult?

FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Aug 13, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> It could also be the diff pinion bearings.
> 
> Does it change when you turn to the left or to the right, i.e.,
> load/unload the right/left side?
> 
> 
> Crai

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Speaking of the enemy; I can almost see Portland from my front porch!

Greg

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Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 3:27 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Clay
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

Being so close to the former USSR, I am expecting AK will be using Putin’s new 
jab.

clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On Aug 12, 2020, at 8:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Cheap, frequent COVID tests could be ‘akin to vaccine,’ professor says.
> 
> "Harvard epidemiologist and expert in disease testing is calling for a
> shift in strategy toward a cheap, daily, do-it-yourself test that he says
> can be as effective as a vaccine at interrupting coronavirus transmission —
> and is currently the only viable option for a quick return to an
> approximation of normal life.
> 
> “These are our hope,” said Michal Mina
> , assistant professor
> of epidemiology at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
>  and Brigham and Women’s Hospital
> . “We don’t have anything tomorrow, other
> than shutting down the economy and keeping schools closed.”
> 
> As the pandemic’s health, economic, and educational toll mounts, Mina, a
> member of the Harvard Chan School’s Center for Communicable Disease
> Dynamics,  said the paper-strip tests have
> already been developed and their shotgun approach to testing — cheap and
> widespread — provides a way back to the workplace, classroom, and other
> venues."
> 
> https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/08/cheap-daily-covid-tests-could-be-akin-to-vaccine/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing_medium=email_campaign=Daily%20Gazette%2020200812%20(1)



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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Gun fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That sounds like most of the guys I’ve shot with at my club. A lot of them are 
really serious about their shooting but not judgmental about the guy/gal next 
to them and what he/she are shooting. It’s all about the fun.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had a trap range near my house way back, and used to take my scarred, 
> plain-Jane field grade Rem. 870 once in a while. I was never a great 
> shotgunner, but could usually break better than 20 out of 25.
> 
> One day a guy next to me had a nice engraved Browning auto. His score was not 
> good, but his sense of humor was spot on. When we had finished the set he 
> turned to me and said:
> 
> "That's a really nice shotgun you have there!"
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 4:19 PM
> To: Mercedes List
> Cc: Dan Penoff
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun
> 
> I’ve never paid a lot of attention, but it seems that the hard core guys that 
> come out every weekend with their own golf carts and shooting vests and such 
> all use O/Us. I got grouped with a guy at a fundraising shoot last year that 
> was trashing everyone who didn’t have a Beretta. He made fun of my “import 
> gun” even though he had never heard of Lanber (very well known in Europe and 
> Down Under despite being out of business now). As most shooters would do, I 
> offered to let him shoot it, but he refused and started in with the “nothing 
> but a Beretta” crap while everyone rolled their eyes.
> 
> We all shot better than this guy. He was pretty quiet by the time we got to 
> the last stand. It was clear he was a hack, as his stance, pull and other 
> aspects of his form were all out of kilter. One of the other guys in our 
> group offered in a very diplomatic manner to give him some pointers but the 
> guy blew him off.
> 
> My former boss was the guy with the Mossberg and my shooting coach. He’s 
> still shooting well with that gun, and has no desire to buy anything else. 
> The idea that the more expensive a gun is makes you a better shooter will 
> never offset poor technique or fit.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> I've started making adjustments to my Stoeger, I'm consistently overshooting 
>> so I'm starting with a small washer between the recoil pad and the top screw 
>> that holds it. If that helps I'll invest in a pad spacer. I seem to shoot 
>> pretty straight but high and it pounds my cheek a little which is actually a 
>> symptom of the same problem. I'm probably shoving my face into the stock too 
>> much which is whats making it hit me, a little down angle might help. That 
>> at least has a wooden stock which is easier to adjust.
>> 
>> For the hunting gun I also wanted the option of 3.5" shells. Steel is less 
>> dense than lead so you end up using larger shot sizes which decreases pellet 
>> count. I'm not a huge fan of 3.5" shells, they recoil bad but my shooting 
>> buddy has a 3.5" gun so I want us to be able to share ammo in a pinch. 
>> 
>> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U 
>> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one 
>> guy in my squad had a 28...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Monday, August 3, 2020, 6:03:27 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I own and have shot both for clays and grouse. Personally, I prefer a 
>> shotgun that breaks down. I guess an autoloader would be better for hunting 
>> just due to the convenience, which certainly makes sense. If I was just 
>> shooting clays it has no advantage, as you’re not allowed to load more than 
>> two rounds at a stand anyway.
>> 
>> Looks like a nice shotgun. My biggest concern is fitting a new gun. I had a 
>> really nice Beretta but it was a crappy fit and something that would have to 
>> spend some time with a gunsmith to make right. I sold it and got my Lanber, 
>> which I knew from the previous use of one would be a good fit, and it was.
>> 
>> A lot of people don’t realize how much proper fitting matters with a 
>> shotgun. You can have a fantastic gun with a lousy fit and you won’t be able 
>> to hit the side of a barn. Buddy of mine didn’t have a lot of coin for a 
>> gun, but after my urging spent time with my coach finding a good fit. He 
>> ended up with a Mossberg that cost him about $500-$600 and he was busting 
>> clays left and right on his first time out. Coach time was around $100 for 
>> the fitting, and worth every penny.
>> 
>> Pictures or it didn’t happen….
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on 
>>> my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot 
>>> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday 

[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Gun fun

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I had a trap range near my house way back, and used to take my scarred, 
plain-Jane field grade Rem. 870 once in a while. I was never a great 
shotgunner, but could usually break better than 20 out of 25.

One day a guy next to me had a nice engraved Browning auto. His score was not 
good, but his sense of humor was spot on. When we had finished the set he 
turned to me and said:

 "That's a really nice shotgun you have there!"

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 4:19 PM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

I’ve never paid a lot of attention, but it seems that the hard core guys that 
come out every weekend with their own golf carts and shooting vests and such 
all use O/Us. I got grouped with a guy at a fundraising shoot last year that 
was trashing everyone who didn’t have a Beretta. He made fun of my “import gun” 
even though he had never heard of Lanber (very well known in Europe and Down 
Under despite being out of business now). As most shooters would do, I offered 
to let him shoot it, but he refused and started in with the “nothing but a 
Beretta” crap while everyone rolled their eyes.

We all shot better than this guy. He was pretty quiet by the time we got to the 
last stand. It was clear he was a hack, as his stance, pull and other aspects 
of his form were all out of kilter. One of the other guys in our group offered 
in a very diplomatic manner to give him some pointers but the guy blew him off.

My former boss was the guy with the Mossberg and my shooting coach. He’s still 
shooting well with that gun, and has no desire to buy anything else. The idea 
that the more expensive a gun is makes you a better shooter will never offset 
poor technique or fit.

-D

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I've started making adjustments to my Stoeger, I'm consistently overshooting 
> so I'm starting with a small washer between the recoil pad and the top screw 
> that holds it. If that helps I'll invest in a pad spacer. I seem to shoot 
> pretty straight but high and it pounds my cheek a little which is actually a 
> symptom of the same problem. I'm probably shoving my face into the stock too 
> much which is whats making it hit me, a little down angle might help. That at 
> least has a wooden stock which is easier to adjust.
> 
> For the hunting gun I also wanted the option of 3.5" shells. Steel is less 
> dense than lead so you end up using larger shot sizes which decreases pellet 
> count. I'm not a huge fan of 3.5" shells, they recoil bad but my shooting 
> buddy has a 3.5" gun so I want us to be able to share ammo in a pinch. 
> 
> Interestingly nobody at clays yesterday had an autoloader. It was all O/U 
> except for one guy with a side by side 16ga. 16 is pretty unusual but one guy 
> in my squad had a 28...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, August 3, 2020, 6:03:27 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I own and have shot both for clays and grouse. Personally, I prefer a shotgun 
> that breaks down. I guess an autoloader would be better for hunting just due 
> to the convenience, which certainly makes sense. If I was just shooting clays 
> it has no advantage, as you’re not allowed to load more than two rounds at a 
> stand anyway.
> 
> Looks like a nice shotgun. My biggest concern is fitting a new gun. I had a 
> really nice Beretta but it was a crappy fit and something that would have to 
> spend some time with a gunsmith to make right. I sold it and got my Lanber, 
> which I knew from the previous use of one would be a good fit, and it was.
> 
> A lot of people don’t realize how much proper fitting matters with a shotgun. 
> You can have a fantastic gun with a lousy fit and you won’t be able to hit 
> the side of a barn. Buddy of mine didn’t have a lot of coin for a gun, but 
> after my urging spent time with my coach finding a good fit. He ended up with 
> a Mossberg that cost him about $500-$600 and he was busting clays left and 
> right on his first time out. Coach time was around $100 for the fitting, and 
> worth every penny.
> 
> Pictures or it didn’t happen….
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking on 
> > my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot 
> > poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I 
> > didn't even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a 
> > win. In my defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably 
> > shouldn't have been shooting.
> > 
> > I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really 
> > well that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a 
> > BUNCH of research and finally settled on a Browning Silver. 
> > 

[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Gun fun

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have a Browning BPS pump in 12 ga. 3 1/2" magnum. I got stopped once by the 
wildlife cops in BC who had a hard time believing it only would hold 3 standard 
12 ga. shells, but his gauge proved it.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don via 
Mercedes
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 4:38 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

This is what you want :
IIRC, it also takes the 3 ½" shells. I had one in 12 ga. many years ago -
great gun.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/949392477/MARLIN-55-12GA-THE-ORIGINAL-MARLIN-GOOSE-GUN-36-INCH-FULL-CHOKE-EXCELLENT.htm

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlin_Model_55

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 2:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking
> on my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot
> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I
> didn't even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a
> win. In my defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably
> shouldn't have been shooting.
>
> I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really
> well that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a
> BUNCH of research and finally settled on a Browning Silver.
> https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
> The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool
> semi-humped receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the
> then chief of Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones
> are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee
> here I'll be just over $1000.
> I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive
> gun I've ever bought.
>
> Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
> -Curt
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT:Moose Day Oregon?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

The .space domain is part of the reason. If you delve into the headers
on your messages, you see the reasons.

Big ones other than your domain: DKIM signature is invalid, message was
mostly an image, and the sending IP address is on a spamblock list.

X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software,
running on the system "spamd-node0.wehostwebsites.com", 
has identified this incoming email as possible spam.  The original
message has been attached to this so you can view it or label
similar future email.  If you have any questions, see
monitor...@handynetworks.com for details.

Content analysis details:   (25.4 points, 10.0 required)
pts  rule name  description
 -- 
--
4.5  BAYES_80   BODY: Bayes spam probability is 80 to 95% 
[score: 0.9029]
0.0  URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. 
See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more 
information. [URIs: fiorentino.space]
2.0  PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD  Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: fiorentino.space 
(space)]
0.2  HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail 
domains are different
8.0  RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM RBL: SORBS: sender is a spam source 
[66.96.184.4 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net]
   -1.0  SPF_PASS   SPF: sender matches SPF record
0.0  SPF_HELO_NONE  SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record
1.0  HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32 BODY: HTML: images with 2800-3200 bytes of words
6.0  HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02BODY: HTML has a low ratio of text to image area
0.1  HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
   -0.1  DKIM_SIGNEDMessage has a DKIM or DK signature, not 
necessarily valid
0.5  FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD   From abused NTLD
6.5  COMMON_SPAM_TLDCreated to address spam that gets through 
filters, but often has a newer, inexpensive TLD commonly used for spam, per 
PMT-586-11281
2.0  DKIM_INVALID   DKIM or DK signature exists, but is not valid
   -4.3  TXREP  TXREP: Score normalizing based on sender's 
reputation



Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes  writes:

> The *spam* is generated by the okie server or ISP, suspicious of my .space 
> domain I guess. I was surprised recently to see one msg got through without 
> the spam notice. I imagine it could be whitelisted if someone got ambitious.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig via 
> Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 10:31 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Craig
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Moose Day Oregon?
>
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 09:48:52 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>> Okay, so it's not a Moose:
>> 
>> Image may contain: tree, plant, grass, outdoor and nature
>> 
>> But it is the view from my boy's rear deck. I told him he's going to
>> need a bigger freezer!
>
> If he can keep it coming around until hunting season, he will have it
> made. Perhaps setting up a corn feeder would be a good thing.
>
>
> Craig
>
> P.S. Greg, why does your email client label everything as "***SPAM***"
>  even emails you are writing from scratch?
>

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT:Moose Day Oregon?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Fri, July 31, 2020 1:39 pm, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>  suspicious of my .space domain I guess.

Or the servers which handle your traffic.
I got that sometimes when 1&1 was my provider.
Hostgator has been free of that so far.

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT:Moose Day Oregon?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

The *spam* is generated by the okie server or ISP, suspicious of my .space 
domain I guess. I was surprised recently to see one msg got through without the 
spam notice. I imagine it could be whitelisted if someone got ambitious.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig via 
Mercedes
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 10:31 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Craig
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Moose Day Oregon?

On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 09:48:52 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Okay, so it's not a Moose:
> 
> Image may contain: tree, plant, grass, outdoor and nature
> 
> But it is the view from my boy's rear deck. I told him he's going to
> need a bigger freezer!

If he can keep it coming around until hunting season, he will have it
made. Perhaps setting up a corn feeder would be a good thing.


Craig

P.S. Greg, why does your email client label everything as "***SPAM***"
 even emails you are writing from scratch?

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Friant

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That's why I think friant is part of the problem.  If the original poster 
doesn't understand the correct terms for the issue, further communications seem 
a fool's errand to me.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 30, 2020 1:44:51 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes :

>>> Freon? But spelled the French way.
>> Aha! That is probably it.
> 
> No.  Add an accent to the "e" to get French.  Friant is
> just stupid.  Or autocorrect.  (Perhaps I repeat myself.)
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Friant

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>> Freon? But spelled the French way.
> Aha! That is probably it.

No.  Add an accent to the "e" to get French.  Friant is
just stupid.  Or autocorrect.  (Perhaps I repeat myself.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Friant

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 10:17:59 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Freon? But spelled the French way.

Aha! That is probably it.


Craig

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Friant

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Freon? But spelled the French way.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig via 
Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:02 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Craig
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Friant

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 12:54:28 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Friant?  Never heard of that, but I suspect that is part of the
> problem...

He probably means refrigerant ...


> > QUESTION: Last year I had the ENTIRE AC repaired on my 1985 300CD,
> > including removing the whole dash and replacing the evaporator - it
> > was the most expensive repair I've ever done on the car and I'm the
> > original owner! New compressor, relays and sensors and flaps to
> > control air flow, the works!

As someone else pointed out, he does not mention replacing the hoses.
Having gone to all that trouble and expense to get the system working
properly, if he didn't replace the hoses as well, he will have leaks,
particularly with the original hoses which were non-barrier hoses.


Craig

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Chinee G-wagen

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Will the marketers make a contraction from Chinese+Jeep to a Cheep?

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey 
via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:16 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Jim Cathey
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chinee G-wagen

That is some bad Chinglish.  I'm sure that the corner of our congress is
far worse than 33 degrees.  "No, no, please don't modernize me!"

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: W124 E420 Seat Cover

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It's a brand you probably don't know - a Weegee.
https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrCwLA95hxfvjcAalYPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTEydGhoYTBnBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQzAwOTZfMQRzZWMDc2M-?p=weegie+water+pistol=yhs-Lkry-SF01=Lkry=yhs-SF01#id=0=https%3A%2F%2Fimg0.etsystatic.com%2F000%2F0%2F5491764%2Fil_570xN.179110414.jpg=click

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 4:09 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> aHA! Now we know where Andrew carries his handgun! Clever! I've never
> heard of the Back Pocket Carry Gambit before.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 E420 Seat Cover
>
> Might have kept a handgun or cell phone in his back pocket.
>
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 3:57 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>
> > Beats me. Since the material is perforated, if you put a lot of stress on
> > it in one area for a while I suspect it will eventually tear along the
> > perforations.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Jul 25, 2020, at 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
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> > >
> > > How does that happen??
> > >
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> > > Thanks, Mitch!
> > >
> > > > On Jul 25, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: W124 E420 Seat Cover

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

aHA! Now we know where Andrew carries his handgun! Clever! I've never heard of 
the Back Pocket Carry Gambit before.

Greg

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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 1:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 E420 Seat Cover

Might have kept a handgun or cell phone in his back pocket.

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 3:57 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Beats me. Since the material is perforated, if you put a lot of stress on
> it in one area for a while I suspect it will eventually tear along the
> perforations.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 25, 2020, at 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > How does that happen??
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 1:05 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Thanks, Mitch!
> >
> > > On Jul 25, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Partial Score

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 12:22:11 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I found a pair of vintage Marantz speakers on CL that had already had
> the surrounds replaced (done nicely!) for $80. They are great. I'm
> thinking I could cash out some of my obsolete TEAC, JVC, Yamaha and
> other obsolete/unused gear. eBay shows some good prices on some of this
> stuff. I saw my TEAC cassette deck sold recently for $450. I don't
> think I paid that much new.

My how this thread has been morphed!


Craig

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Partial Score

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I found a pair of vintage Marantz speakers on CL that had already had the 
surrounds replaced (done nicely!) for $80. They are great. I'm thinking I could 
cash out some of my obsolete TEAC, JVC, Yamaha and other obsolete/unused gear. 
eBay shows some good prices on some of this stuff. I saw my TEAC cassette deck 
sold recently for $450. I don't think I paid that much new.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib 
via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 11:20 AM
To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Cc: Allan Streib
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Partial Score

I have an old pair of 15" Pyle speakers that need that. They aren't high
end speakers by any means, but they have big magnets and will pump out
the bass frequencies

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:

> You can buy new stuff to redo the cones. I have some ARs that need that, and 
> my 45yo Advents are in need again too. 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> My favorites were the Marantz stuff.
>> 
>> I got a nice set of Marantz bookshelf speakers at a garage sale for $15.
>> Not very efficient, but very good sound:size ratio. But the foam woofer
>> surrounds crumbled a few years after I bought them. Must have been over 20
>> years old by then.
>> 

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

<< That is the American way isn't?>>

This was up in Canada, but probably the same here.

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb 
Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 7:02 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators

How do you hook one of those up in your house?  That would be 
interesting.  So restaurants go out of business so they probably file 
bankruptcy on that business, then start a new business and buy their old 
equipment for pennies on the dollar?  That is the American way isn't?

On 7/12/2020 8:12 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> Faster than that, like 1 min per rack.  And the whole rack (usually plastic) 
> lifts out to carry the clean load to the shelves or pre-load for the next 
> cycle.  There are warm water and hot water vesions.  The warm water version 
> requires a disinfectant.  The hot water types are so hot that no additive is 
> needed but they put out a LOT of steam.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:06 PM
>> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
>> Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
>> Subject: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators
>>
>> I think the only fast dishwashers today are commercial ones. My cousin is in
>> the restaurant biz and often attends the frequent going out of business
>> auctions. At one of these he bought a bunch of commercial dishwashers that
>> complete the cycle in 15-20 min. He has one in his home. I went along on one
>> of these trips and learned some interesting stuff, like that some of the 
>> stuff
>> was being purchased by the principals of the restaurants that went out of
>> business, going into a new business.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 11:05 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Samsung refrigerators
>>
>> I think all dishwashers these days take that long or longer due to 
>> conservation
>> etc. We had a fairly recent Maytag that we bought 5 years ago they took 3-4
>> hours on the heavy duty cycle. The Bosch we have now takes a little under 3
>> hours on heavy duty.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>> On the subject of dishwashers, our beloved 2006 KithcenAid is acting
>>> like it will give up the ghost any day soon.  Makes an embarrassingly
>>> loud noise during its cycle, although the dishes still emerge sparklingly 
>>> clean.
>>>
>>> Price on a comparable replacement KitchenAid has risen to $850 and up,
>>> so I have been looking at Bosch, Samsung, GE and Whirlpool models with
>>> a third rack that are in my price range.
>>>
>>> Had a Bosch dw in the old house and it was very quiet but the cycle
>>> took 2+ hours which is way too long.  Don't know if they have solved
>>> that problem by now.  Samsung has the best features but I have heard some
>> bad things.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 1:33 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've never had great luck with ice makers. Mostly they clog up and
>>>> stop working. The ice maker in my GE started leaking, ruined the
>>>> floor and stained the ceiling below before I noticed it. That was
>>>> about a year after the in-door water dispenser quit. Design flaw,
>>>> they routed the water line too close to the interior and it is prone to
>> freezing up.
>>>> Allan
>>>>
>>>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I have one like that too. Bottom ice maker quit working, called
>>>>> repair (I bought extended warranty from Lowes), guy came and changed
>>>>> the filler tube, which froze and burst. some cheap plastic bit.
>>>>> Bottom ice maker works when it wants to, has been working OK for the
>>>>> last few months but doesn't put out like it should. I have to
>>>>> occasionally reset it when it quits cycling. So far temps have been
>>>>> OK. Repair guy told me that most new fridges are PsOS due to energy
>>>>> savings issues, the motors run full out when they run, and they

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators

[MG via Mercedes]

We have a warm water one at the club. Warm being at least 120deg. 
It is a small (for a restaurant unit) 1 rack unit and runs on 110 
but it's not for home use being 36x36x72 inch (wxdxh).
Like Scott says it is noisy and fast at about 90 sec per cycle 
but dishes do need to be pre rinsed and scrubbed of any stuck on 
food as this is more or less just a sanitizer even though it is 
called a dishwasher.


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
How do you hook one of those up in your house?  That would be 
interesting.  So restaurants go out of business so they probably file 
bankruptcy on that business, then start a new business and buy their old 
equipment for pennies on the dollar?  That is the American way isn't?


On 7/12/2020 8:12 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
Faster than that, like 1 min per rack.  And the whole rack (usually 
plastic) lifts out to carry the clean load to the shelves or pre-load 
for the next cycle.  There are warm water and hot water vesions.  The 
warm water version requires a disinfectant.  The hot water types are 
so hot that no additive is needed but they put out a LOT of steam.



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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:06 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
Subject: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators

I think the only fast dishwashers today are commercial ones. My 
cousin is in

the restaurant biz and often attends the frequent going out of business
auctions. At one of these he bought a bunch of commercial dishwashers 
that
complete the cycle in 15-20 min. He has one in his home. I went along 
on one
of these trips and learned some interesting stuff, like that some of 
the stuff
was being purchased by the principals of the restaurants that went 
out of

business, going into a new business.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 11:05 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Samsung refrigerators

I think all dishwashers these days take that long or longer due to 
conservation
etc. We had a fairly recent Maytag that we bought 5 years ago they 
took 3-4
hours on the heavy duty cycle. The Bosch we have now takes a little 
under 3

hours on heavy duty.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 12, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

 wrote:

On the subject of dishwashers, our beloved 2006 KithcenAid is acting
like it will give up the ghost any day soon.  Makes an embarrassingly
loud noise during its cycle, although the dishes still emerge 
sparklingly clean.


Price on a comparable replacement KitchenAid has risen to $850 and up,
so I have been looking at Bosch, Samsung, GE and Whirlpool models with
a third rack that are in my price range.

Had a Bosch dw in the old house and it was very quiet but the cycle
took 2+ hours which is way too long.  Don't know if they have solved
that problem by now.  Samsung has the best features but I have heard 
some

bad things.





On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 1:33 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I've never had great luck with ice makers. Mostly they clog up and
stop working. The ice maker in my GE started leaking, ruined the
floor and stained the ceiling below before I noticed it. That was
about a year after the in-door water dispenser quit. Design flaw,
they routed the water line too close to the interior and it is 
prone to

freezing up.

Allan

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:


I have one like that too. Bottom ice maker quit working, called
repair (I bought extended warranty from Lowes), guy came and changed
the filler tube, which froze and burst. some cheap plastic bit.
Bottom ice maker works when it wants to, has been working OK for the
last few months but doesn't put out like it should. I have to
occasionally reset it when it quits cycling. So far temps have been
OK. Repair guy told me that most new fridges are PsOS due to energy
savings issues, the motors run full out when they run, and they
cycle more often, which burns them out more frequently than the old
ones that were big and just ran.

--FT

On 7/12/20 11:08 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Avoid Samsung refrigerators. They are piles of crap. We bought a
new expensive french door model back in around 2017. The reason we
went with this model was because it had an ice maker in the door
and one in the bottom freezer. At first everything was fine but
within a short time the top ice maker turned into a pile of junk.
It constantly freezes up with big chunks of ice and gets jammed.
90% of the time it does not work unless you thaw it out then it
will work for a day or 2 maybe. Bottom ice maker has always 
worked fine.


I am sitting here in my chair in the living room which is just
right behind the refrigerator on the other side of the wall (open
floor plan),

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

They hook up like a regular dishwasher but may need more power (esp Hi temp), 
probably 220/240v.  
They are not cheap new (like $1-3K).  For example:
https://www.katom.com/027-DSP4DPS.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw6ar4BRDnARIsAITGzlDW7vc3Rf-WwSl0vdH2dJ30ItumZPtpnnMz2B66_h1iaNRE3M9Vj5kaAsuyEALw_wcB
 

Not ideal for home use, IMO.  Price aside, they are not quiet and many racks 
are designed for glasses or plates (not both) and some only handle one rack.  
So they are great for speed and high volume in a noisy kitchen but have 
drawbacks for home use.


> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 10:02 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators
> 
> How do you hook one of those up in your house?  That would be
> interesting.  So restaurants go out of business so they probably file 
> bankruptcy
> on that business, then start a new business and buy their old equipment for
> pennies on the dollar?  That is the American way isn't?
> 
> On 7/12/2020 8:12 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> > Faster than that, like 1 min per rack.  And the whole rack (usually 
> > plastic) lifts
> out to carry the clean load to the shelves or pre-load for the next cycle.  
> There
> are warm water and hot water vesions.  The warm water version requires a
> disinfectant.  The hot water types are so hot that no additive is needed but
> they put out a LOT of steam.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:06 PM
> >> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
> >> Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
> >> Subject: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators
> >>
> >> I think the only fast dishwashers today are commercial ones. My
> >> cousin is in the restaurant biz and often attends the frequent going
> >> out of business auctions. At one of these he bought a bunch of
> >> commercial dishwashers that complete the cycle in 15-20 min. He has
> >> one in his home. I went along on one of these trips and learned some
> >> interesting stuff, like that some of the stuff was being purchased by
> >> the principals of the restaurants that went out of business, going into a 
> >> new
> business.
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 11:05 AM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >> Cc: Kaleb Striplin
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Samsung refrigerators
> >>
> >> I think all dishwashers these days take that long or longer due to
> >> conservation etc. We had a fairly recent Maytag that we bought 5
> >> years ago they took 3-4 hours on the heavy duty cycle. The Bosch we
> >> have now takes a little under 3 hours on heavy duty.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jul 12, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>> On the subject of dishwashers, our beloved 2006 KithcenAid is
> >>> acting like it will give up the ghost any day soon.  Makes an
> >>> embarrassingly loud noise during its cycle, although the dishes still 
> >>> emerge
> sparklingly clean.
> >>>
> >>> Price on a comparable replacement KitchenAid has risen to $850 and
> >>> up, so I have been looking at Bosch, Samsung, GE and Whirlpool
> >>> models with a third rack that are in my price range.
> >>>
> >>> Had a Bosch dw in the old house and it was very quiet but the cycle
> >>> took 2+ hours which is way too long.  Don't know if they have solved
> >>> that problem by now.  Samsung has the best features but I have heard
> >>> some
> >> bad things.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 1:33 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I've never had great luck with ice makers. Mostly they clog up and
> >>>> stop working. The ice maker in my GE started leaking, ruined the
> >>>> floor and stained the ceiling below before I noticed it. That was
> >>>> about a year after the in-door water dispenser quit. Design flaw,
> >>>> they routed the water line too close to

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Samsung refrigerators

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Sun, July 12, 2020 10:01 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> How do you hook one of those up in your house?

The first industrial dishwasher I ever used was a Hobart that was longer
than my current kitchen. I think there was about a two minute lag between
sticking dishes in one end and taking hot steamy dishes out of the other
end.

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