[MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s

2008-06-08 Thread Donald Snook
There is a nice 123 diesel on ebay that appears to be selling cheap.  One 
reason is probably because the blower motor is not working.  How much of a 
project is that?  What does it cost - parts and labor (if I don't do it).

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s

2008-06-08 Thread Mitch Haley

I don't think a W123 is abnormally difficult. Just remember, if it's a
1976 it might be a W115, and those are incredibly time consuming to replace.

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s

2008-06-08 Thread Bill R
I know the '76's were terrible to replace, but I thought the '76's were easy
- or was that just the AC blower?
BillR

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I don't think a W123 is abnormally difficult. Just remember, if it's a
1976 it might be a W115, and those are incredibly time consuming to replace.

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s - oops

2008-06-08 Thread Bill R
Sorry - meant to say the 75's were terrible to replace - I had to do that
one once, and was told the '76's were easy at the time.
BillR

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I know the '76's were terrible to replace, but I thought the '76's were easy
- or was that just the AC blower?
BillR

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I don't think a W123 is abnormally difficult. Just remember, if it's a
1976 it might be a W115, and those are incredibly time consuming to replace.

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s - oops

2008-06-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Bill R wrote:
 
 Sorry - meant to say the 75's were terrible to replace - I had to do that
 one once, and was told the '76's were easy at the time.

I was thinking that both the W115 (entire car built around the heater blower)
and the W123 (serviceable) were both available in the 1976 model year.
If it's got 7 headlishts outboard of 5 3/4 fog lights, it shouldn't be
that bad.

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s - oops

2008-06-08 Thread OK Don
It's the 115 that's a bear to do (did it twice), the 115 ran from '68
to '76. The 123 started in '77 - should be LOTs easier to change,
though I've never had to do it. The 107 - '72 to '89 - were EASY to
change! (did it once).

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bill R wrote:

 Sorry - meant to say the 75's were terrible to replace - I had to do that
 one once, and was told the '76's were easy at the time.

 I was thinking that both the W115 (entire car built around the heater blower)
 and the W123 (serviceable) were both available in the 1976 model year.
 If it's got 7 headlishts outboard of 5 3/4 fog lights, it shouldn't be
 that bad.

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[MBZ] 123 blower motor

2008-06-08 Thread Wilton Strickland
I replaced blower motor on my 80 240D (123) 'bout 22 years ago.  I's above
rt front passenger's feet - relatively easy job.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s

2008-06-08 Thread Jim Cathey
 I know the '76's were terrible to replace, but I thought the '76's 
 were easy
 - or was that just the AC blower?

Heater blower on a 114/115 is a nightmare.  AC blower on
same is easy.  Shared blower on 123 is easy.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower Motor failure - not the fuse

2007-01-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

combination switch

andrew strasfogel wrote:

We let it sit a day and it is working again in all positions.  I am thinking
worn brushes.  Any other ideas?

On 1/14/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


andrew strasfogel wrote:


The blower motor on her 1985 300 CD has ceased to operate in one fell
swoop.  I replaced the fuse, but this had  no effect.   Before I
purchase a replacement motor, I should ask whether there is a relay
that might be at fault rather than the motor itself.  Anybody?


The two most common causes of what you describe (after blown fuse in the
aux fuse box if so equipped) are seized blower bearings or worn brushes.
If these are both fine, then the blower control box may have failed
(although that's rather rare). Does the blower work when you engage
defrost? Try tapping it. Does moving the ignition key back from position
II toward position I result in the blower motor engaging? Ignition
switch failures were a known cause of the blower not working.

Marshall
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[MBZ] 123 Blower Motor failure - not the fuse

2007-01-14 Thread andrew strasfogel

The blower motor on her 1985 300 CD has ceased to operate in one fell
swoop.  I replaced the fuse, but this had  no effect.   Before I
purchase a replacement motor, I should ask whether there is a relay
that might be at fault rather than the motor itself.  Anybody?

1985 300 CD
210 K miles



Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower Motor failure - not the fuse

2007-01-14 Thread Jim Cathey

The blower motor on her 1985 300 CD has ceased to operate in one fell
swoop.  I replaced the fuse, but this had  no effect.   Before I
purchase a replacement motor, I should ask whether there is a relay
that might be at fault rather than the motor itself.  Anybody?


There is a relay, the blower control relay.  But on a 123 it's
very easy to check things out up on the fender where the blower
speed resistor pack is located.  You can test there for power
being supplied, continuity through the resistors themselves,
and whether the blower motor runs or not with power applied.

A schematic really helps at this point.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower Motor failure - not the fuse

2007-01-14 Thread Marshall Booth

andrew strasfogel wrote:

The blower motor on her 1985 300 CD has ceased to operate in one fell
swoop.  I replaced the fuse, but this had  no effect.   Before I
purchase a replacement motor, I should ask whether there is a relay
that might be at fault rather than the motor itself.  Anybody?


The two most common causes of what you describe (after blown fuse in the 
aux fuse box if so equipped) are seized blower bearings or worn brushes. 
If these are both fine, then the blower control box may have failed 
(although that's rather rare). Does the blower work when you engage 
defrost? Try tapping it. Does moving the ignition key back from position 
II toward position I result in the blower motor engaging? Ignition 
switch failures were a known cause of the blower not working.


Marshall
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Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower Motor failure - not the fuse

2007-01-14 Thread andrew strasfogel

We let it sit a day and it is working again in all positions.  I am thinking
worn brushes.  Any other ideas?

On 1/14/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


andrew strasfogel wrote:
 The blower motor on her 1985 300 CD has ceased to operate in one fell
 swoop.  I replaced the fuse, but this had  no effect.   Before I
 purchase a replacement motor, I should ask whether there is a relay
 that might be at fault rather than the motor itself.  Anybody?

The two most common causes of what you describe (after blown fuse in the
aux fuse box if so equipped) are seized blower bearings or worn brushes.
If these are both fine, then the blower control box may have failed
(although that's rather rare). Does the blower work when you engage
defrost? Try tapping it. Does moving the ignition key back from position
II toward position I result in the blower motor engaging? Ignition
switch failures were a known cause of the blower not working.

Marshall
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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