[MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Gary Hurst]

that won't impress most of you freezing americans, but that is damn cold for
atlanta
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[MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Mathieu J. Cama]

>[MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
>Gary Hurst
>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:18:34 -0800
>
>that won't impress most of you freezing americans, but that is damn cold for
>atlanta

We're showing 9 degrees a few miles down the road from you. When I lived in 
Western NY that was relatively warm for 
this time of year, but after almost 12 years down South, this is, as you say, 
damn cold!

Mathieu



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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Loren Faeth]

Wanna trade?  It was -22 the night before and about the same last 
night.  Wed night was -37 in Clinton.  Record cold temps around the 
state last night.  I heard new york had the record for the most 
consecutive days of snow and the coldest Dec on record.


we have over 2 feet of snow.  that is unusual too!

Guess that is what happens when you take the 15-20 Dems who want to 
be prez out of Iowa!  Without their hot air, we have cold winters and 
cool summers.



At 11:17 PM 1/15/2009, you wrote:

that won't impress most of you freezing americans, but that is damn cold for
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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Gary Hurst]

i also had gear when i lived cold climates.  i had $200 long underwear and
waterproof boots.  here i have crocs and fat guy shorts.

i used to astound the foreign students a the university of rochester walking
around in nothing but an ordinary long sleeved shirt and jeans in sub zero
temparatures and not being cold and they were wearing large winter coats and
freezing.  i would tell them that it was all just a matter of "getting used
to it" but it was nothing other than the quality of the cold weather gear.

i would impress the russians when i was there by standing in ice water to
show them the "resolve of the american".  i had waterproof thermal boots.
they had boots that looked a little like mine, but where just junk.  none of
the locals could beat me in a contest of ice water standing.

but as i now live in a climate where it is in the 50s on a typical winter
day, i don't have any gear at all so 20 degrees below freezing is just
killer for me now

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Mathieu J. Cama wrote:

>
> >[MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
> >Gary Hurst
> >Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:18:34 -0800
> >
> >that won't impress most of you freezing americans, but that is damn cold
> for
> >atlanta
>
> We're showing 9 degrees a few miles down the road from you. When I lived in
> Western NY that was relatively warm for
> this time of year, but after almost 12 years down South, this is, as you
> say, damn cold!
>
> Mathieu
>
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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[andrew strasfogel]

Amazing factoid:  Washington, D.C. and Winnepeg, MB will have the same low
temperature tomorrow morning (approx. + 5 F.).



On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Mathieu J. Cama wrote:

>
> >[MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
> >Gary Hurst
> >Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:18:34 -0800
> >
> >that won't impress most of you freezing americans, but that is damn cold
> for
> >atlanta
>
> We're showing 9 degrees a few miles down the road from you. When I lived in
> Western NY that was relatively warm for
> this time of year, but after almost 12 years down South, this is, as you
> say, damn cold!
>
> Mathieu
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Mitch Haley]

Gary Hurst wrote:


i used to astound the foreign students a the university of rochester walking
around in nothing but an ordinary long sleeved shirt and jeans in sub zero
temparatures and not being cold and they were wearing large winter coats and
freezing.


I used to wear shorts and sandals at Michigan State unless I was leaving the 
dorm, I was used to living in a 65 degree house in the winter. A friend and I 
would go to the movies in a neighboring dorm dressed like that (the classrooms 
we used for movie night got quite warm with a few hundred bodies in them).
So we'd be calmly walking along in shorts and sandals, sometimes it might be 
0-10 degrees F on a clear night, and see what comments it would draw. Most 
common was "Where are you guys from, Alaska or something?" I always let Stan 
answer that one: "Coastal Texas, actually". Sure, it was a bit nippy walking 
around like that, but it was only a 100yd walk, as opposed to two hours in a 
packed auditorium holding a winter coat in your lap.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Curt Raymond]

Its about 10F here right now, I just got back from a quick snowmobile ride, 
there are 2 trees down and I don't have any chainsaw gas mixed so I can only go 
about 2 miles out and back. I was testing some electric socks I'd bought my 
wife for Christmas that she doesn't like. I think they're pretty good. Theres 
some sort of heating strip right under my toes that doesn't work for beans 
wandering around the house but in my boots it gets nice and toasty.
I wore the wrong neck warmer so there was one cold spot just under my chin. 
With the correct one I have to keep my helmet open a little to cool off.

You're right its all about having the right equipment...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:11:56 -0800
From: Gary Hurst 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
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i also had gear when i lived cold climates.  i had $200 long underwear and
waterproof boots.  here i have crocs and fat guy shorts.

i used to astound the foreign students a the university of rochester walking
around in nothing but an ordinary long sleeved shirt and jeans in sub zero
temparatures and not being cold and they were wearing large winter coats and
freezing.  i would tell them that it was all just a matter of "getting used
to it" but it was nothing other than the quality of the cold weather gear.

i would impress the russians when i was there by standing in ice water to
show them the "resolve of the american".  i had waterproof thermal boots.
they had boots that looked a little like mine, but where just junk.  none of
the locals could beat me in a contest of ice water standing.

but as i now live in a climate where it is in the 50s on a typical winter
day, i don't have any gear at all so 20 degrees below freezing is just
killer for me now


  
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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Gary Hurst]

turns out they dont' deliver the 5.99 pizza for 5.99, so i'll have to go out
soon.  fortunatety, it's probably like 30s now

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Its about 10F here right now, I just got back from a quick snowmobile ride,
> there are 2 trees down and I don't have any chainsaw gas mixed so I can only
> go about 2 miles out and back. I was testing some electric socks I'd bought
> my wife for Christmas that she doesn't like. I think they're pretty good.
> Theres some sort of heating strip right under my toes that doesn't work for
> beans wandering around the house but in my boots it gets nice and toasty.
> I wore the wrong neck warmer so there was one cold spot just under my chin.
> With the correct one I have to keep my helmet open a little to cool off.
>
> You're right its all about having the right equipment...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:11:56 -0800
> From: Gary Hurst 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Message-ID:
> <8b0e7cce0901160911o31aa507u2b0e803165c58...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> i also had gear when i lived cold climates.  i had $200 long underwear and
> waterproof boots.  here i have crocs and fat guy shorts.
>
> i used to astound the foreign students a the university of rochester
> walking
> around in nothing but an ordinary long sleeved shirt and jeans in sub zero
> temparatures and not being cold and they were wearing large winter coats
> and
> freezing.  i would tell them that it was all just a matter of "getting used
> to it" but it was nothing other than the quality of the cold weather gear.
>
> i would impress the russians when i was there by standing in ice water to
> show them the "resolve of the american".  i had waterproof thermal boots.
> they had boots that looked a little like mine, but where just junk.  none
> of
> the locals could beat me in a contest of ice water standing.
>
> but as i now live in a climate where it is in the 50s on a typical winter
> day, i don't have any gear at all so 20 degrees below freezing is just
> killer for me now
>
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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> I used to wear shorts and sandals at Michigan State unless I was leaving the
> dorm, I was used to living in a 65 degree house in the winter. A friend and
> I would go to the movies in a neighboring dorm dressed like that (the
> classrooms we used for movie night got quite warm with a few hundred bodies
> in them).

No heated tunnels between the buildings?  I thought just about every
upper Midwest college and university had them.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Mitch Haley]

Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 > No heated tunnels between the buildings?  I thought just about every

upper Midwest college and university had them.


We had "steam tunnels" where the pipes from the university power plant to the 
buildings ran under the sidewalks. James Dallas Egbert was supposed to have 
lived down there for a while before he died. (I had the room next door to his, 
three years after he was gone, so I never met him)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_tunnel_incident

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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[LWB250]

For the utilities, yes - students, no.

I know from first hand experience about such tunnels at IU and Ball State, as 
we used them to move between buildings when we were doing service work.

Dan



--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Alex Chamberlain  wrote:

> From: Alex Chamberlain 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 4:08 PM
> 
> -Inline Attachment Follows-
> 
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:33 AM,
> Mitch Haley 
> wrote:
> > I used to wear shorts and sandals at Michigan State
> unless I was leaving the
> > dorm, I was used to living in a 65 degree house in the
> winter. A friend and
> > I would go to the movies in a neighboring dorm dressed
> like that (the
> > classrooms we used for movie night got quite warm with
> a few hundred bodies
> > in them).
> 
> No heated tunnels between the buildings?  I thought
> just about every
> upper Midwest college and university had them.
> 
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Gary Hurst]

those tunnels got me in some trouble as an undergrad.  we used to use them,
but management didn't want us to.  so they started getting more serious
about locking them.  then i got more serious about breaking in.

this went on for several weeks.  guess who lost war?

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:41 PM, LWB250  wrote:

> For the utilities, yes - students, no.
>
> I know from first hand experience about such tunnels at IU and Ball State,
> as we used them to move between buildings when we were doing service work.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Alex Chamberlain  wrote:
>
> > From: Alex Chamberlain 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 4:08 PM
> >
> > -Inline Attachment Follows-
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:33 AM,
> > Mitch Haley 
> > wrote:
> > > I used to wear shorts and sandals at Michigan State
> > unless I was leaving the
> > > dorm, I was used to living in a 65 degree house in the
> > winter. A friend and
> > > I would go to the movies in a neighboring dorm dressed
> > like that (the
> > > classrooms we used for movie night got quite warm with
> > a few hundred bodies
> > > in them).
> >
> > No heated tunnels between the buildings?  I thought
> > just about every
> > upper Midwest college and university had them.
> >
> > Alex
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Curt Raymond]

Good old Fitchburg State College had tunnels between some of the acedemic 
buildings but not to the dorms which were on the other side of the street...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:41:11 -0800 (PST)
From: LWB250 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga
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For the utilities, yes - students, no.

I
know from first hand experience about such tunnels at IU and Ball
State, as we used them to move between buildings when we were doing
service work.

Dan


  
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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Mitch Haley]

Gary Hurst wrote:

those tunnels got me in some trouble as an undergrad.  we used to use them,
but management didn't want us to.  so they started getting more serious
about locking them.  then i got more serious about breaking in.

this went on for several weeks.  guess who lost war?


You did, when you got stuck?
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:08:21 -0800 "Alex Chamberlain"
 wrote:

> No heated tunnels between the buildings?  I thought just about every
> upper Midwest college and university had them.

Caltech in Pasadena, California, has them.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Gary Hurst]

no, i did when i got caught working on a lock.  some professor saw me and
called security.  my defense was that some of us really enjoy being there
and the locks hindered this enjoyment.  there was no real trouble in
exchange for me vowing to leave the tunnels alone forever, which i did.  we
simply moved our activities into the old abandoned buildings.

a lot of us came of age in the 70s, the golden age of anarchy and
destruction.  if you saw something you wanted and you couldn't buy it or
didn't want to buy it, you just stole it and never gave it a second
thought.  when you took the subway, you waited for the train to be
approaching and you jumped the turnstile.  didn't matter that you had a
subway token and money in your pocket, you just jumped it.  and the poor
woman locked up behind the bullet proof glass in the token booth could only
just yell "pay your fare!  pay your fare"  the only people who kept any
order at all in the city was the mafia and you NEVER messed with them.
there was no stealing in bensonhurst!

i'm glad those days of anarchy are over.  you don't see this kind of stuff
going on anymore.  not very happy with arbitrary state fascism that have
replaced it either, but at least you are petty safe in NYC today.  last time
i was there i saw scandanavian looking tourists walking on 110th street in
harlem after dark and walking into central park.  in the 70s, this would
have been classified as a "suicide" when they never came back out.

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Gary Hurst wrote:
>
>> those tunnels got me in some trouble as an undergrad.  we used to use
>> them,
>> but management didn't want us to.  so they started getting more serious
>> about locking them.  then i got more serious about breaking in.
>>
>> this went on for several weeks.  guess who lost war?
>>
>
> You did, when you got stuck?
> Mitch.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Mountain Man]

jabba wrote:
> i'm glad those days of anarchy are over.  you don't see this kind of stuff
> going on anymore.

You don't classify any of the many hacking forms as the same mind? -
different medium?  That is what I like about hackers - one truck I saw
this week had window sticker that said unorthodox hacking dot com -
haven't visited that yet - but I think hacking fills the void you
speak about.

Is there a picture of a younger jabba that might be a bit less heavy -
it would be interesting to see a pic of the jabba-man in the days of
rochester.  What did you study? - finance? fissiks?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Gary Hurst]

jaime has seen old video of me.  he can fil lyou in.

we used to do that phone thing.  950-1033.  950-1044.  etc not that we
particularly had anyone to call, but it was just what we did.  but our
expectations were very low back then as we never imagined that someday we'd
have hte whole world at our fingertips quickly for as little as a dollar a
day.  (not that the internet hasn't disappointed me, but that is a different
talk)

 i never bought into computers until much later.  some kids saw the TRS-80
and said "wow, this is future of the world!" but I said "is that all this
piece of shit does?"  geez, did i ever make a big mistake there  :(

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> jabba wrote:
> > i'm glad those days of anarchy are over.  you don't see this kind of
> stuff
> > going on anymore.
>
> You don't classify any of the many hacking forms as the same mind? -
> different medium?  That is what I like about hackers - one truck I saw
> this week had window sticker that said unorthodox hacking dot com -
> haven't visited that yet - but I think hacking fills the void you
> speak about.
>
> Is there a picture of a younger jabba that might be a bit less heavy -
> it would be interesting to see a pic of the jabba-man in the days of
> rochester.  What did you study? - finance? fissiks?
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] 14 degrees here in south gwinnett, ga

[Luther]

I did the same things in the '90s for high school! :)

Gary Hurst wrote:

no, i did when i got caught working on a lock.  some professor saw me and
called security.  my defense was that some of us really enjoy being there
and the locks hindered this enjoyment.  there was no real trouble in
exchange for me vowing to leave the tunnels alone forever, which i did.  we
simply moved our activities into the old abandoned buildings.

a lot of us came of age in the 70s, the golden age of anarchy and
destruction.  if you saw something you wanted and you couldn't buy it or
didn't want to buy it, you just stole it and never gave it a second
thought.  when you took the subway, you waited for the train to be
approaching and you jumped the turnstile.  didn't matter that you had a
subway token and money in your pocket, you just jumped it.  and the poor
woman locked up behind the bullet proof glass in the token booth could only
just yell "pay your fare!  pay your fare"  the only people who kept any
order at all in the city was the mafia and you NEVER messed with them.
there was no stealing in bensonhurst!

i'm glad those days of anarchy are over.  you don't see this kind of stuff
going on anymore.  not very happy with arbitrary state fascism that have
replaced it either, but at least you are petty safe in NYC today.  last time
i was there i saw scandanavian looking tourists walking on 110th street in
harlem after dark and walking into central park.  in the 70s, this would
have been classified as a "suicide" when they never came back out.

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

  

Gary Hurst wrote:



those tunnels got me in some trouble as an undergrad.  we used to use
them,
but management didn't want us to.  so they started getting more serious
about locking them.  then i got more serious about breaking in.

this went on for several weeks.  guess who lost war?

  

You did, when you got stuck?
Mitch.


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