Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You need to go big, so you can have your own airport and a nice crawler too!


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
January 31, 2018 at 7:01 PM
Nope. Youngest son is saving to buy 10-20 acres in the south county, 
which is very, very rural. I’ll build a 40 x 60 shop for my cars with 
a lift and retire there.


-D




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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7247732,-82.1344044,70560m/data=!3m1!1e3

I live in Bloomingdale, near the top left center of the map.  He’s looking down 
in the Fort Lonesome/Duette area (lower center of the map.)  Nothing out there 
but abandoned fish and tree farms and cattle.  Got a good friend who is a third 
generation cattle rancher in the Wimauma area (just west of Ft. Lonesome) who 
has about 600 acres of grazing land they would probably sell a small parcel 
from because they just love my boy.  Just dropped them a note to see.

-D

> On Jan 31, 2018, at 8:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Where is that at in relation to you? Maybe I could have moved there when 
> there was a Tampa opening 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Nope.  Youngest son is saving to buy 10-20 acres in the south county, which 
>> is very, very rural.  I’ll build a 40 x 60 shop for my cars with a lift and 
>> retire there.
>> 
>> -D
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Where is that at in relation to you? Maybe I could have moved there when there 
was a Tampa opening 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Nope.  Youngest son is saving to buy 10-20 acres in the south county, which 
> is very, very rural.  I’ll build a 40 x 60 shop for my cars with a lift and 
> retire there.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Pretty soon you will be moving to Del Boca Vista
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 6:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bedtime is typically 10:00 pm.  Up at 5:00, maybe 4:45 if the kitty clock 
>>> is running fast.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 31, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Well poos is one of them old people that has to get to dinner by 4 to beat 
 the rush then will be in bed by 7.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nope.  Youngest son is saving to buy 10-20 acres in the south county, which is 
very, very rural.  I’ll build a 40 x 60 shop for my cars with a lift and retire 
there.

-D


> On Jan 31, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Pretty soon you will be moving to Del Boca Vista
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 6:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Bedtime is typically 10:00 pm.  Up at 5:00, maybe 4:45 if the kitty clock is 
>> running fast.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well poos is one of them old people that has to get to dinner by 4 to beat 
>>> the rush then will be in bed by 7.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Pretty soon you will be moving to Del Boca Vista

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2018, at 6:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Bedtime is typically 10:00 pm.  Up at 5:00, maybe 4:45 if the kitty clock is 
> running fast.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Well poos is one of them old people that has to get to dinner by 4 to beat 
>> the rush then will be in bed by 7.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Bedtime is typically 10:00 pm.  Up at 5:00, maybe 4:45 if the kitty clock is 
running fast.

-D


> On Jan 31, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well poos is one of them old people that has to get to dinner by 4 to beat 
> the rush then will be in bed by 7.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nope.  Nothing like that around the area I live in.  That blue hair snowbird 
“early bird special” stuff only exists over on the coast.  Got some long time 
friends who are moving out of the area tomorrow that have an early flight out, 
so they want to crash early tonight.

-D


> On Jan 31, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow, early-bird special there in Flahdah huh?  Is it discount day too?
> 
> No rush, I couldn't get up there until next week anyway but I will comm with 
> the guy.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 1/31/18 4:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Heading out for dinner with the wife and some friends. I’ll pm you the 
>> details when I get home.
>> 
>> -D
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Sure, but not this weekend.  Probably.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 31, 2018 2:46:16 PM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>
>Max, feel like an upstate road trip?
>
>--FT
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

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On 31/01/2018 3:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Well poos is one of them old people that has to get to dinner by 4 to beat the 
rush then will be in bed by 7.



Yeah but that is just so he can get up earlier and get a head start on 
all of you folks that sleep in.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well poos is one of them old people that has to get to dinner by 4 to beat the 
rush then will be in bed by 7.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow, early-bird special there in Flahdah huh?  Is it discount day too?
> 
> No rush, I couldn't get up there until next week anyway but I will comm with 
> the guy.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 1/31/18 4:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Heading out for dinner with the wife and some friends. I’ll pm you the 
>> details when I get home.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:56 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you have the guys info fwd it onto me if you could please. Seems like 
>>> almost too good a deal to pass up, not that I need another car but...
>>> 
>>> I presume you have communicated with him, I’ll reference your reference so 
>>> I’m a bit more “bona fide”
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 So here’s the deal:
 
 I have conferred with the learned folks on the Davelist (400E/500E 
 enthusiasts) and this is what they have said:
 
> “Your thoughts are spot-on. The lower engine harness (to starter / 
> alternator) cannot, to my knowledge, cause limp mode. I think the indie 
> was either lazy or is not familiar with diagnosing M119's with ASR. The 
> lower harness is NLA currently, but can be rebuilt as DIY, or Jono will 
> rebuild them professionally. The upper wire harness should not cause limp 
> mode.
> 
> If we assume the ETA is good (no guarantee the "rebuilt" is ok), the next 
> most likely items to cause limp mode are: brake light switch faulty or 
> mis-adjusted, NSS on trans faulty (very common if original), mis-adjusted 
> throttle linkage, faulty microswitch at the accelerator pedal, faulty 
> E-GAS module, or faulty ETA. The wheel speed sensors are very rare 
> failures, and I've never heard of failed diff speed sensors.
> 
> If the car is in good condition and under $1k, limp mode would NOT at all 
> be a deal-breaker. However, I would budget ±$1k in parts for various 
> items you are probably going to run into along the way, same as with any 
> used M119 purchase. For the limp mode specifically, the most expensive 
> item by far would be the ETA if needed. Everything else is <$100.”
> 
> The ETA has been checked out and confirmed good, as it was a dealer 
> replacement they put on the car a few years back.  That leaves little but 
> microswitches or adjustments to sort out the issue.
> 
 They have recently (within the last year or two) done a full suspension 
 rebuild with shocks, struts and bushings using MB parts.  Brakes were done 
 as well. Full service records for their ownership, which began prior to 
 2010 - I’m not sure of the exact year, something like 08/09 or 
 thereabouts.  All work was done by the local dealer or a now retired MB 
 indie in the area.
 
 It’s a great foundation If you have the guys info fwd it onto me if you 
 could please. Seems like almost too good a deal to pass up, not that I 
 need another car but...
>>> I presume you have communicated with him, I’ll reference your reference so 
>>> I’m a bit more “bona fide”
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 So here’s the deal:
 
 I have conferred with the learned folks on the Davelist (400E/500E 
 enthusiasts) and this is what they have said:
 
> “Your thoughts are spot-on. The lower engine harness (to starter / 
> alternator) cannot, to my knowledge, cause limp mode. I think the indie 
> was either lazy or is not familiar with diagnosing M119's with ASR. The 
> lower harness is NLA currently, but can be rebuilt as DIY, or Jono will 
> rebuild them professionally. The upper wire harness should not cause limp 
> mode.
> 
> If we assume the ETA is good (no guarantee the "rebuilt" is ok), the next 
> most likely items to cause limp mode are: brake light switch faulty or 
> mis-adjusted, NSS on trans faulty (very common if original), mis-adjusted 
> throttle linkage, faulty microswitch at the accelerator pedal, faulty 
> E-GAS module, or faulty ETA. The wheel speed sensors are very rare 
> failures, and I've never heard of failed diff speed sensors.
> 
> If the car is in good condition and under $1k, limp mode would NOT at all 
> be a deal-breaker. However, I would budget ±$1k in parts for various 
> items you are probably going to run into along the way, same as with any 
> used M119 purchase. For the limp mode specifically, the most expensive 
> item by far would be the ETA if needed. Everything 

Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

If I get that 400E send me all those bits it would need

--FT


On 1/31/18 4:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I have a very low mile 94 sitting in the barn I got from Craig, which I used to 
own then sold him and got it back. It hit a curb or something and did some 
damage to the right side suspension. I am not sure if I will be able to fix it 
as supposedly it bent the body where the control arm attached. I need to do 
something with that car.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 31, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Karl Wittnebel  wrote:

The 94 e420 continues to impress. Seriously quick with the 2.82 diff swap. A 
real sleeper.

It has a faint knock once every 4 sec coming from somewhere poorly defined 
under the body somewhere, and it did need a new throttle body and harness when 
I got it, but other than that it is a great car.

The seats from these e420 and e400 cars are fantastic. You could get a grand 
for them in good shape.


On Jan 31, 2018 11:44 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
I am really starting to get the urge for a v8 124. I am mad about the one that 
was up in KS that must have sold. It was a 94 with heated seats and asr

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 31, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

Here’s the CL ad:

https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/400e-mercedes-benz-w124-m119/6456318662.html

I posted a link to current photos yesterday:

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/PhotoDump.html

He had listed this on Benzworld a while back starting at $2k or thereabouts 
with no takers. It’s had all the requisite 1993 vintage/M119 stuff done to it, 
but needs a lower engine harness rebuild (easy for someone with basic soldering 
and mechanical skills) and the ASR sorted out - also a fairly easy fix once 
some troubleshooting can be done. Heck! if someone bought this and shipped me 
the harness, I would rebuilt it for the cost of shipping.  It’s easy if you’ve 
got the stuff.

I’m out at this point. As stated by the time I have the purchase price and 
shipping ($450) into it I’ll be upside down trying to get everything sorted, as 
it has a bunch of minor things like rear window regulator and wonky antenna, to 
name a few, that need to be addressed.  My Martha tendencies would require that 
I address it all, which would not make good fiscal sense in the long term.

This is a bad*ss car with a 4 liter M119 in it, and besides being surprisingly 
frugal on fuel for a V8, it will blow the doors off of about anything else on 
the street today.

I would bet if you walked up with $750/$800 right now he would take it.  For 
that and not having to pay to ship it somewhere you could have a real race car 
for minimal $$$.

-D


On Jan 31, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

link?  or was that just some random car you ran across?  I could get the 
daughter unit to take a look at it if you want, she'll be back up there 
Thursday.

How low do you think the guy would go?  I have a truck and a trailer... or just 
catch a ride with her and drive it back...

--FT



On 1/31/18 1:08 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
I’m going to pass on this car.  While I’m confident the ASR issues would be 
easily resolved after researching them in detail, there are a lot of other 
little niggly bit to be addressed that I fear would just add up to the point 
where I would have too much money sunk into it for my satisfaction, especially 
because I’m going to have nearly $1500 into it before I even crack the hood 
with having to ship it home.

That is, I would Martha the p*ss out of it for more than its worth.

If anyone is interested, I think it would be a great project car that you could 
get going for minimal $$$ if you’re not worried about it being perfect.  If 
anyone wants the contact info for the seller, let me know. CL has beaten him up 
pretty badly, so I suspect if you were ready to walk up with cash in hand you 
could even get it for less than the current $995 asking price.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Wow, early-bird special there in Flahdah huh?  Is it discount day too?

No rush, I couldn't get up there until next week anyway but I will comm 
with the guy.


--FT


On 1/31/18 4:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Heading out for dinner with the wife and some friends. I’ll pm you the details 
when I get home.

-D


On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:56 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

If you have the guys info fwd it onto me if you could please. Seems like almost 
too good a deal to pass up, not that I need another car but...

I presume you have communicated with him, I’ll reference your reference so I’m 
a bit more “bona fide”

--R
Sent from iPhone


On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

So here’s the deal:

I have conferred with the learned folks on the Davelist (400E/500E enthusiasts) 
and this is what they have said:


“Your thoughts are spot-on. The lower engine harness (to starter / alternator) 
cannot, to my knowledge, cause limp mode. I think the indie was either lazy or 
is not familiar with diagnosing M119's with ASR. The lower harness is NLA 
currently, but can be rebuilt as DIY, or Jono will rebuild them professionally. 
The upper wire harness should not cause limp mode.

If we assume the ETA is good (no guarantee the "rebuilt" is ok), the next most 
likely items to cause limp mode are: brake light switch faulty or mis-adjusted, NSS on 
trans faulty (very common if original), mis-adjusted throttle linkage, faulty microswitch 
at the accelerator pedal, faulty E-GAS module, or faulty ETA. The wheel speed sensors are 
very rare failures, and I've never heard of failed diff speed sensors.

If the car is in good condition and under $1k, limp mode would NOT at all be a 
deal-breaker. However, I would budget ±$1k in parts for various items you are 
probably going to run into along the way, same as with any used M119 purchase. For 
the limp mode specifically, the most expensive item by far would be the ETA if 
needed. Everything else is <$100.”

The ETA has been checked out and confirmed good, as it was a dealer replacement 
they put on the car a few years back.  That leaves little but microswitches or 
adjustments to sort out the issue.


They have recently (within the last year or two) done a full suspension rebuild 
with shocks, struts and bushings using MB parts.  Brakes were done as well. 
Full service records for their ownership, which began prior to 2010 - I’m not 
sure of the exact year, something like 08/09 or thereabouts.  All work was done 
by the local dealer or a now retired MB indie in the area.

It’s a great foundation If you have the guys info fwd it onto me if you could 
please. Seems like almost too good a deal to pass up, not that I need another 
car but...

I presume you have communicated with him, I’ll reference your reference so I’m 
a bit more “bona fide”

--R
Sent from iPhone


On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

So here’s the deal:

I have conferred with the learned folks on the Davelist (400E/500E enthusiasts) 
and this is what they have said:


“Your thoughts are spot-on. The lower engine harness (to starter / alternator) 
cannot, to my knowledge, cause limp mode. I think the indie was either lazy or 
is not familiar with diagnosing M119's with ASR. The lower harness is NLA 
currently, but can be rebuilt as DIY, or Jono will rebuild them professionally. 
The upper wire harness should not cause limp mode.

If we assume the ETA is good (no guarantee the "rebuilt" is ok), the next most 
likely items to cause limp mode are: brake light switch faulty or mis-adjusted, NSS on 
trans faulty (very common if original), mis-adjusted throttle linkage, faulty microswitch 
at the accelerator pedal, faulty E-GAS module, or faulty ETA. The wheel speed sensors are 
very rare failures, and I've never heard of failed diff speed sensors.

If the car is in good condition and under $1k, limp mode would NOT at all be a 
deal-breaker. However, I would budget ±$1k in parts for various items you are 
probably going to run into along the way, same as with any used M119 purchase. For 
the limp mode specifically, the most expensive item by far would be the ETA if 
needed. Everything else is <$100.”

The ETA has been checked out and confirmed good, as it was a dealer replacement 
they put on the car a few years back.  That leaves little but microswitches or 
adjustments to sort out the issue.


They have recently (within the last year or two) done a full suspension rebuild 
with shocks, struts and bushings using MB parts.  Brakes were done as well. 
Full service records for their ownership, which began prior to 2010 - I’m not 
sure of the exact year, something like 08/09 or thereabouts.  All work was done 
by the local dealer or a now retired MB indie in the area.

It’s a great foundation for someone who wants a cheap entry into the 400E 
platform, as they’ve done all the requisite 

Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have a very low mile 94 sitting in the barn I got from Craig, which I used to 
own then sold him and got it back. It hit a curb or something and did some 
damage to the right side suspension. I am not sure if I will be able to fix it 
as supposedly it bent the body where the control arm attached. I need to do 
something with that car.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Karl Wittnebel  wrote:
> 
> The 94 e420 continues to impress. Seriously quick with the 2.82 diff swap. A 
> real sleeper.
> 
> It has a faint knock once every 4 sec coming from somewhere poorly defined 
> under the body somewhere, and it did need a new throttle body and harness 
> when I got it, but other than that it is a great car.
> 
> The seats from these e420 and e400 cars are fantastic. You could get a grand 
> for them in good shape.
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2018 11:44 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> I am really starting to get the urge for a v8 124. I am mad about the one 
>> that was up in KS that must have sold. It was a 94 with heated seats and asr
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jan 31, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Here’s the CL ad:
>> >
>> > https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/400e-mercedes-benz-w124-m119/6456318662.html
>> >
>> > I posted a link to current photos yesterday:
>> >
>> > http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/PhotoDump.html
>> >
>> > He had listed this on Benzworld a while back starting at $2k or 
>> > thereabouts with no takers. It’s had all the requisite 1993 vintage/M119 
>> > stuff done to it, but needs a lower engine harness rebuild (easy for 
>> > someone with basic soldering and mechanical skills) and the ASR sorted out 
>> > - also a fairly easy fix once some troubleshooting can be done. Heck! if 
>> > someone bought this and shipped me the harness, I would rebuilt it for the 
>> > cost of shipping.  It’s easy if you’ve got the stuff.
>> >
>> > I’m out at this point. As stated by the time I have the purchase price and 
>> > shipping ($450) into it I’ll be upside down trying to get everything 
>> > sorted, as it has a bunch of minor things like rear window regulator and 
>> > wonky antenna, to name a few, that need to be addressed.  My Martha 
>> > tendencies would require that I address it all, which would not make good 
>> > fiscal sense in the long term.
>> >
>> > This is a bad*ss car with a 4 liter M119 in it, and besides being 
>> > surprisingly frugal on fuel for a V8, it will blow the doors off of about 
>> > anything else on the street today.
>> >
>> > I would bet if you walked up with $750/$800 right now he would take it.  
>> > For that and not having to pay to ship it somewhere you could have a real 
>> > race car for minimal $$$.
>> >
>> > -D
>> >
>> >> On Jan 31, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> link?  or was that just some random car you ran across?  I could get the 
>> >> daughter unit to take a look at it if you want, she'll be back up there 
>> >> Thursday.
>> >>
>> >> How low do you think the guy would go?  I have a truck and a trailer... 
>> >> or just catch a ride with her and drive it back...
>> >>
>> >> --FT
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On 1/31/18 1:08 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> >>> I’m going to pass on this car.  While I’m confident the ASR issues would 
>> >>> be easily resolved after researching them in detail, there are a lot of 
>> >>> other little niggly bit to be addressed that I fear would just add up to 
>> >>> the point where I would have too much money sunk into it for my 
>> >>> satisfaction, especially because I’m going to have nearly $1500 into it 
>> >>> before I even crack the hood with having to ship it home.
>> >>>
>> >>> That is, I would Martha the p*ss out of it for more than its worth.
>> >>>
>> >>> If anyone is interested, I think it would be a great project car that 
>> >>> you could get going for minimal $$$ if you’re not worried about it being 
>> >>> perfect.  If anyone wants the contact info for the seller, let me know. 
>> >>> CL has beaten him up pretty badly, so I suspect if you were ready to 
>> >>> walk up with cash in hand you could even get it for less than the 
>> >>> current $995 asking price.
>> >>>
>> >>> -D
>> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Heading out for dinner with the wife and some friends. I’ll pm you the details 
when I get home.

-D

> On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:56 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you have the guys info fwd it onto me if you could please. Seems like 
> almost too good a deal to pass up, not that I need another car but...
> 
> I presume you have communicated with him, I’ll reference your reference so 
> I’m a bit more “bona fide”
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So here’s the deal:
>> 
>> I have conferred with the learned folks on the Davelist (400E/500E 
>> enthusiasts) and this is what they have said:
>> 
>>> “Your thoughts are spot-on. The lower engine harness (to starter / 
>>> alternator) cannot, to my knowledge, cause limp mode. I think the indie was 
>>> either lazy or is not familiar with diagnosing M119's with ASR. The lower 
>>> harness is NLA currently, but can be rebuilt as DIY, or Jono will rebuild 
>>> them professionally. The upper wire harness should not cause limp mode. 
>>> 
>>> If we assume the ETA is good (no guarantee the "rebuilt" is ok), the next 
>>> most likely items to cause limp mode are: brake light switch faulty or 
>>> mis-adjusted, NSS on trans faulty (very common if original), mis-adjusted 
>>> throttle linkage, faulty microswitch at the accelerator pedal, faulty E-GAS 
>>> module, or faulty ETA. The wheel speed sensors are very rare failures, and 
>>> I've never heard of failed diff speed sensors.
>>> 
>>> If the car is in good condition and under $1k, limp mode would NOT at all 
>>> be a deal-breaker. However, I would budget ±$1k in parts for various items 
>>> you are probably going to run into along the way, same as with any used 
>>> M119 purchase. For the limp mode specifically, the most expensive item by 
>>> far would be the ETA if needed. Everything else is <$100.”
>>> 
>>> The ETA has been checked out and confirmed good, as it was a dealer 
>>> replacement they put on the car a few years back.  That leaves little but 
>>> microswitches or adjustments to sort out the issue.
>>> 
>> 
>> They have recently (within the last year or two) done a full suspension 
>> rebuild with shocks, struts and bushings using MB parts.  Brakes were done 
>> as well. Full service records for their ownership, which began prior to 2010 
>> - I’m not sure of the exact year, something like 08/09 or thereabouts.  All 
>> work was done by the local dealer or a now retired MB indie in the area.
>> 
>> It’s a great foundation If you have the guys info fwd it onto me if you 
>> could please. Seems like almost too good a deal to pass up, not that I need 
>> another car but...
> 
> I presume you have communicated with him, I’ll reference your reference so 
> I’m a bit more “bona fide”
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So here’s the deal:
>> 
>> I have conferred with the learned folks on the Davelist (400E/500E 
>> enthusiasts) and this is what they have said:
>> 
>>> “Your thoughts are spot-on. The lower engine harness (to starter / 
>>> alternator) cannot, to my knowledge, cause limp mode. I think the indie was 
>>> either lazy or is not familiar with diagnosing M119's with ASR. The lower 
>>> harness is NLA currently, but can be rebuilt as DIY, or Jono will rebuild 
>>> them professionally. The upper wire harness should not cause limp mode. 
>>> 
>>> If we assume the ETA is good (no guarantee the "rebuilt" is ok), the next 
>>> most likely items to cause limp mode are: brake light switch faulty or 
>>> mis-adjusted, NSS on trans faulty (very common if original), mis-adjusted 
>>> throttle linkage, faulty microswitch at the accelerator pedal, faulty E-GAS 
>>> module, or faulty ETA. The wheel speed sensors are very rare failures, and 
>>> I've never heard of failed diff speed sensors.
>>> 
>>> If the car is in good condition and under $1k, limp mode would NOT at all 
>>> be a deal-breaker. However, I would budget ±$1k in parts for various items 
>>> you are probably going to run into along the way, same as with any used 
>>> M119 purchase. For the limp mode specifically, the most expensive item by 
>>> far would be the ETA if needed. Everything else is <$100.”
>>> 
>>> The ETA has been checked out and confirmed good, as it was a dealer 
>>> replacement they put on the car a few years back.  That leaves little but 
>>> microswitches or adjustments to sort out the issue.
>>> 
>> 
>> They have recently (within the last year or two) done a full suspension 
>> rebuild with shocks, struts and bushings using MB parts.  Brakes were done 
>> as well. Full service records for their ownership, which began prior to 2010 
>> - I’m not sure of the exact year, something like 08/09 or thereabouts.  All 
>> work was done by the local dealer or a now retired MB indie in the area.
>> 
>> It’s a great 

Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

If you have the guys info fwd it onto me if you could please. Seems like almost 
too good a deal to pass up, not that I need another car but...

I presume you have communicated with him, I’ll reference your reference so I’m 
a bit more “bona fide”

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So here’s the deal:
> 
> I have conferred with the learned folks on the Davelist (400E/500E 
> enthusiasts) and this is what they have said:
> 
>> “Your thoughts are spot-on. The lower engine harness (to starter / 
>> alternator) cannot, to my knowledge, cause limp mode. I think the indie was 
>> either lazy or is not familiar with diagnosing M119's with ASR. The lower 
>> harness is NLA currently, but can be rebuilt as DIY, or Jono will rebuild 
>> them professionally. The upper wire harness should not cause limp mode. 
>> 
>> If we assume the ETA is good (no guarantee the "rebuilt" is ok), the next 
>> most likely items to cause limp mode are: brake light switch faulty or 
>> mis-adjusted, NSS on trans faulty (very common if original), mis-adjusted 
>> throttle linkage, faulty microswitch at the accelerator pedal, faulty E-GAS 
>> module, or faulty ETA. The wheel speed sensors are very rare failures, and 
>> I've never heard of failed diff speed sensors.
>> 
>> If the car is in good condition and under $1k, limp mode would NOT at all be 
>> a deal-breaker. However, I would budget ±$1k in parts for various items you 
>> are probably going to run into along the way, same as with any used M119 
>> purchase. For the limp mode specifically, the most expensive item by far 
>> would be the ETA if needed. Everything else is <$100.”
>> 
>> The ETA has been checked out and confirmed good, as it was a dealer 
>> replacement they put on the car a few years back.  That leaves little but 
>> microswitches or adjustments to sort out the issue.
>> 
> 
> They have recently (within the last year or two) done a full suspension 
> rebuild with shocks, struts and bushings using MB parts.  Brakes were done as 
> well. Full service records for their ownership, which began prior to 2010 - 
> I’m not sure of the exact year, something like 08/09 or thereabouts.  All 
> work was done by the local dealer or a now retired MB indie in the area.
> 
> It’s a great foundation for someone who wants a cheap entry into the 400E 
> platform, as they’ve done all the requisite W124/M119 stuff that would be 
> necessary in a car of this age and vintage. This even includes timing chain 
> and guides, which I’ve never done on an M119 before 300k.
> 
> The piddly stuff are things you could easily ignore or put off, like the rear 
> window regulator and antenna, for example.  Left rear fender has peeling 
> clearcoat, but it’s that panel and that panel on,y, something that could 
> easily be masked off and dealt with to make the exterior 100%.
> 
> You should reach out to the guy if you’re interested. I will gladly rebuild 
> the lower harness gratis if you get it to/from my abode.  It’s not a big deal 
> to R
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Man that is really tempting.  I'm wondering if a Kleb price would do it, or 
>> if he would not want to go lower than like $750 (which is still a good price 
>> I would think, the car looks pretty nice though I'm not really into white).
>> 
>> So you think the ASR is the culprit?  Is that something straightforward?  
>> Would it be something that could be done easily to get it running or would 
>> it need some bench work? Knacker parts from any old 124?  or is it more than 
>> that?
>> 
>> The wiring harness I could easily deal with I suppose, sounds more like a 
>> bit of a pain than anything else.  Is that also putting it into limp mode? 
>> What would YOU do to get it running right?
>> 
>> I bought a regulator for the 210 for like $40, that is no big deal, or just 
>> grab one at the knackers.
>> 
>> damn you you are talking me into this.
>> 
>> Max, feel like an upstate road trip?
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/31/18 2:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Here’s the CL ad:
>>> 
>>> https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/400e-mercedes-benz-w124-m119/6456318662.html
>>> 
>>> I posted a link to current photos yesterday:
>>> 
>>> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/PhotoDump.html
>>> 
>>> He had listed this on Benzworld a while back starting at $2k or thereabouts 
>>> with no takers. It’s had all the requisite 1993 vintage/M119 stuff done to 
>>> it, but needs a lower engine harness rebuild (easy for someone with basic 
>>> soldering and mechanical skills) and the ASR sorted out - also a fairly 
>>> easy fix once some troubleshooting can be done. Heck! if someone bought 
>>> this and shipped me the harness, I would rebuilt it for the cost of 
>>> shipping.  It’s easy if you’ve got the stuff.
>>> 
>>> I’m out at this point. As stated by the time I have the purchase price and 

Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

The 94 e420 continues to impress. Seriously quick with the 2.82 diff swap.
A real sleeper.

It has a faint knock once every 4 sec coming from somewhere poorly defined
under the body somewhere, and it did need a new throttle body and harness
when I got it, but other than that it is a great car.

The seats from these e420 and e400 cars are fantastic. You could get a
grand for them in good shape.

On Jan 31, 2018 11:44 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am really starting to get the urge for a v8 124. I am mad about the one
> that was up in KS that must have sold. It was a 94 with heated seats and asr
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 31, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Here’s the CL ad:
> >
> > https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/400e-mercedes-benz-
> w124-m119/6456318662.html
> >
> > I posted a link to current photos yesterday:
> >
> > http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/PhotoDump.html
> >
> > He had listed this on Benzworld a while back starting at $2k or
> thereabouts with no takers. It’s had all the requisite 1993 vintage/M119
> stuff done to it, but needs a lower engine harness rebuild (easy for
> someone with basic soldering and mechanical skills) and the ASR sorted out
> - also a fairly easy fix once some troubleshooting can be done. Heck! if
> someone bought this and shipped me the harness, I would rebuilt it for the
> cost of shipping.  It’s easy if you’ve got the stuff.
> >
> > I’m out at this point. As stated by the time I have the purchase price
> and shipping ($450) into it I’ll be upside down trying to get everything
> sorted, as it has a bunch of minor things like rear window regulator and
> wonky antenna, to name a few, that need to be addressed.  My Martha
> tendencies would require that I address it all, which would not make good
> fiscal sense in the long term.
> >
> > This is a bad*ss car with a 4 liter M119 in it, and besides being
> surprisingly frugal on fuel for a V8, it will blow the doors off of about
> anything else on the street today.
> >
> > I would bet if you walked up with $750/$800 right now he would take it.
> For that and not having to pay to ship it somewhere you could have a real
> race car for minimal $$$.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jan 31, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> link?  or was that just some random car you ran across?  I could get
> the daughter unit to take a look at it if you want, she'll be back up there
> Thursday.
> >>
> >> How low do you think the guy would go?  I have a truck and a trailer...
> or just catch a ride with her and drive it back...
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 1/31/18 1:08 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> I’m going to pass on this car.  While I’m confident the ASR issues
> would be easily resolved after researching them in detail, there are a lot
> of other little niggly bit to be addressed that I fear would just add up to
> the point where I would have too much money sunk into it for my
> satisfaction, especially because I’m going to have nearly $1500 into it
> before I even crack the hood with having to ship it home.
> >>>
> >>> That is, I would Martha the p*ss out of it for more than its worth.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone is interested, I think it would be a great project car that
> you could get going for minimal $$$ if you’re not worried about it being
> perfect.  If anyone wants the contact info for the seller, let me know. CL
> has beaten him up pretty badly, so I suspect if you were ready to walk up
> with cash in hand you could even get it for less than the current $995
> asking price.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

So here’s the deal:

I have conferred with the learned folks on the Davelist (400E/500E enthusiasts) 
and this is what they have said:

> “Your thoughts are spot-on. The lower engine harness (to starter / 
> alternator) cannot, to my knowledge, cause limp mode. I think the indie was 
> either lazy or is not familiar with diagnosing M119's with ASR. The lower 
> harness is NLA currently, but can be rebuilt as DIY, or Jono will rebuild 
> them professionally. The upper wire harness should not cause limp mode. 
> 
> If we assume the ETA is good (no guarantee the "rebuilt" is ok), the next 
> most likely items to cause limp mode are: brake light switch faulty or 
> mis-adjusted, NSS on trans faulty (very common if original), mis-adjusted 
> throttle linkage, faulty microswitch at the accelerator pedal, faulty E-GAS 
> module, or faulty ETA. The wheel speed sensors are very rare failures, and 
> I've never heard of failed diff speed sensors.
> 
> If the car is in good condition and under $1k, limp mode would NOT at all be 
> a deal-breaker. However, I would budget ±$1k in parts for various items you 
> are probably going to run into along the way, same as with any used M119 
> purchase. For the limp mode specifically, the most expensive item by far 
> would be the ETA if needed. Everything else is <$100.”
> 
> The ETA has been checked out and confirmed good, as it was a dealer 
> replacement they put on the car a few years back.  That leaves little but 
> microswitches or adjustments to sort out the issue.
> 

They have recently (within the last year or two) done a full suspension rebuild 
with shocks, struts and bushings using MB parts.  Brakes were done as well. 
Full service records for their ownership, which began prior to 2010 - I’m not 
sure of the exact year, something like 08/09 or thereabouts.  All work was done 
by the local dealer or a now retired MB indie in the area.

It’s a great foundation for someone who wants a cheap entry into the 400E 
platform, as they’ve done all the requisite W124/M119 stuff that would be 
necessary in a car of this age and vintage. This even includes timing chain and 
guides, which I’ve never done on an M119 before 300k.

The piddly stuff are things you could easily ignore or put off, like the rear 
window regulator and antenna, for example.  Left rear fender has peeling 
clearcoat, but it’s that panel and that panel on,y, something that could easily 
be masked off and dealt with to make the exterior 100%.

You should reach out to the guy if you’re interested. I will gladly rebuild the 
lower harness gratis if you get it to/from my abode.  It’s not a big deal to 
R

-D



> On Jan 31, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Man that is really tempting.  I'm wondering if a Kleb price would do it, or 
> if he would not want to go lower than like $750 (which is still a good price 
> I would think, the car looks pretty nice though I'm not really into white).
> 
> So you think the ASR is the culprit?  Is that something straightforward?  
> Would it be something that could be done easily to get it running or would it 
> need some bench work? Knacker parts from any old 124?  or is it more than 
> that?
> 
> The wiring harness I could easily deal with I suppose, sounds more like a bit 
> of a pain than anything else.  Is that also putting it into limp mode? What 
> would YOU do to get it running right?
> 
> I bought a regulator for the 210 for like $40, that is no big deal, or just 
> grab one at the knackers.
> 
> damn you you are talking me into this.
> 
> Max, feel like an upstate road trip?
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 1/31/18 2:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Here’s the CL ad:
>> 
>> https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/400e-mercedes-benz-w124-m119/6456318662.html
>> 
>> I posted a link to current photos yesterday:
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/PhotoDump.html
>> 
>> He had listed this on Benzworld a while back starting at $2k or thereabouts 
>> with no takers. It’s had all the requisite 1993 vintage/M119 stuff done to 
>> it, but needs a lower engine harness rebuild (easy for someone with basic 
>> soldering and mechanical skills) and the ASR sorted out - also a fairly easy 
>> fix once some troubleshooting can be done. Heck! if someone bought this and 
>> shipped me the harness, I would rebuilt it for the cost of shipping.  It’s 
>> easy if you’ve got the stuff.
>> 
>> I’m out at this point. As stated by the time I have the purchase price and 
>> shipping ($450) into it I’ll be upside down trying to get everything sorted, 
>> as it has a bunch of minor things like rear window regulator and wonky 
>> antenna, to name a few, that need to be addressed.  My Martha tendencies 
>> would require that I address it all, which would not make good fiscal sense 
>> in the long term.
>> 
>> This is a bad*ss car with a 4 liter M119 in it, and besides being 
>> surprisingly frugal on fuel for a V8, it will blow the doors off of about 
>> 

Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Man that is really tempting.  I'm wondering if a Kleb price would do it, 
or if he would not want to go lower than like $750 (which is still a 
good price I would think, the car looks pretty nice though I'm not 
really into white).


So you think the ASR is the culprit?  Is that something 
straightforward?  Would it be something that could be done easily to get 
it running or would it need some bench work? Knacker parts from any old 
124?  or is it more than that?


The wiring harness I could easily deal with I suppose, sounds more like 
a bit of a pain than anything else.  Is that also putting it into limp 
mode? What would YOU do to get it running right?


I bought a regulator for the 210 for like $40, that is no big deal, or 
just grab one at the knackers.


damn you you are talking me into this.

Max, feel like an upstate road trip?

--FT


On 1/31/18 2:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Here’s the CL ad:

https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/400e-mercedes-benz-w124-m119/6456318662.html

I posted a link to current photos yesterday:

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/PhotoDump.html

He had listed this on Benzworld a while back starting at $2k or thereabouts 
with no takers. It’s had all the requisite 1993 vintage/M119 stuff done to it, 
but needs a lower engine harness rebuild (easy for someone with basic soldering 
and mechanical skills) and the ASR sorted out - also a fairly easy fix once 
some troubleshooting can be done. Heck! if someone bought this and shipped me 
the harness, I would rebuilt it for the cost of shipping.  It’s easy if you’ve 
got the stuff.

I’m out at this point. As stated by the time I have the purchase price and 
shipping ($450) into it I’ll be upside down trying to get everything sorted, as 
it has a bunch of minor things like rear window regulator and wonky antenna, to 
name a few, that need to be addressed.  My Martha tendencies would require that 
I address it all, which would not make good fiscal sense in the long term.

This is a bad*ss car with a 4 liter M119 in it, and besides being surprisingly 
frugal on fuel for a V8, it will blow the doors off of about anything else on 
the street today.

I would bet if you walked up with $750/$800 right now he would take it.  For 
that and not having to pay to ship it somewhere you could have a real race car 
for minimal $$$.

-D


On Jan 31, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

link?  or was that just some random car you ran across?  I could get the 
daughter unit to take a look at it if you want, she'll be back up there 
Thursday.

How low do you think the guy would go?  I have a truck and a trailer... or just 
catch a ride with her and drive it back...

--FT



On 1/31/18 1:08 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
I’m going to pass on this car.  While I’m confident the ASR issues would be 
easily resolved after researching them in detail, there are a lot of other 
little niggly bit to be addressed that I fear would just add up to the point 
where I would have too much money sunk into it for my satisfaction, especially 
because I’m going to have nearly $1500 into it before I even crack the hood 
with having to ship it home.

That is, I would Martha the p*ss out of it for more than its worth.

If anyone is interested, I think it would be a great project car that you could 
get going for minimal $$$ if you’re not worried about it being perfect.  If 
anyone wants the contact info for the seller, let me know. CL has beaten him up 
pretty badly, so I suspect if you were ready to walk up with cash in hand you 
could even get it for less than the current $995 asking price.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I am really starting to get the urge for a v8 124. I am mad about the one that 
was up in KS that must have sold. It was a 94 with heated seats and asr

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Here’s the CL ad:
> 
> https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/400e-mercedes-benz-w124-m119/6456318662.html
> 
> I posted a link to current photos yesterday:
> 
> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/PhotoDump.html
> 
> He had listed this on Benzworld a while back starting at $2k or thereabouts 
> with no takers. It’s had all the requisite 1993 vintage/M119 stuff done to 
> it, but needs a lower engine harness rebuild (easy for someone with basic 
> soldering and mechanical skills) and the ASR sorted out - also a fairly easy 
> fix once some troubleshooting can be done. Heck! if someone bought this and 
> shipped me the harness, I would rebuilt it for the cost of shipping.  It’s 
> easy if you’ve got the stuff.
> 
> I’m out at this point. As stated by the time I have the purchase price and 
> shipping ($450) into it I’ll be upside down trying to get everything sorted, 
> as it has a bunch of minor things like rear window regulator and wonky 
> antenna, to name a few, that need to be addressed.  My Martha tendencies 
> would require that I address it all, which would not make good fiscal sense 
> in the long term.
> 
> This is a bad*ss car with a 4 liter M119 in it, and besides being 
> surprisingly frugal on fuel for a V8, it will blow the doors off of about 
> anything else on the street today.
> 
> I would bet if you walked up with $750/$800 right now he would take it.  For 
> that and not having to pay to ship it somewhere you could have a real race 
> car for minimal $$$.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> link?  or was that just some random car you ran across?  I could get the 
>> daughter unit to take a look at it if you want, she'll be back up there 
>> Thursday.
>> 
>> How low do you think the guy would go?  I have a truck and a trailer... or 
>> just catch a ride with her and drive it back...
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/31/18 1:08 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I’m going to pass on this car.  While I’m confident the ASR issues would be 
>>> easily resolved after researching them in detail, there are a lot of other 
>>> little niggly bit to be addressed that I fear would just add up to the 
>>> point where I would have too much money sunk into it for my satisfaction, 
>>> especially because I’m going to have nearly $1500 into it before I even 
>>> crack the hood with having to ship it home.
>>> 
>>> That is, I would Martha the p*ss out of it for more than its worth.
>>> 
>>> If anyone is interested, I think it would be a great project car that you 
>>> could get going for minimal $$$ if you’re not worried about it being 
>>> perfect.  If anyone wants the contact info for the seller, let me know. CL 
>>> has beaten him up pretty badly, so I suspect if you were ready to walk up 
>>> with cash in hand you could even get it for less than the current $995 
>>> asking price.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Here’s the CL ad:

https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/400e-mercedes-benz-w124-m119/6456318662.html

I posted a link to current photos yesterday:

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/PhotoDump.html

He had listed this on Benzworld a while back starting at $2k or thereabouts 
with no takers. It’s had all the requisite 1993 vintage/M119 stuff done to it, 
but needs a lower engine harness rebuild (easy for someone with basic soldering 
and mechanical skills) and the ASR sorted out - also a fairly easy fix once 
some troubleshooting can be done. Heck! if someone bought this and shipped me 
the harness, I would rebuilt it for the cost of shipping.  It’s easy if you’ve 
got the stuff.

I’m out at this point. As stated by the time I have the purchase price and 
shipping ($450) into it I’ll be upside down trying to get everything sorted, as 
it has a bunch of minor things like rear window regulator and wonky antenna, to 
name a few, that need to be addressed.  My Martha tendencies would require that 
I address it all, which would not make good fiscal sense in the long term.

This is a bad*ss car with a 4 liter M119 in it, and besides being surprisingly 
frugal on fuel for a V8, it will blow the doors off of about anything else on 
the street today.

I would bet if you walked up with $750/$800 right now he would take it.  For 
that and not having to pay to ship it somewhere you could have a real race car 
for minimal $$$.

-D

> On Jan 31, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> link?  or was that just some random car you ran across?  I could get the 
> daughter unit to take a look at it if you want, she'll be back up there 
> Thursday.
> 
> How low do you think the guy would go?  I have a truck and a trailer... or 
> just catch a ride with her and drive it back...
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 1/31/18 1:08 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’m going to pass on this car.  While I’m confident the ASR issues would be 
>> easily resolved after researching them in detail, there are a lot of other 
>> little niggly bit to be addressed that I fear would just add up to the point 
>> where I would have too much money sunk into it for my satisfaction, 
>> especially because I’m going to have nearly $1500 into it before I even 
>> crack the hood with having to ship it home.
>> 
>> That is, I would Martha the p*ss out of it for more than its worth.
>> 
>> If anyone is interested, I think it would be a great project car that you 
>> could get going for minimal $$$ if you’re not worried about it being 
>> perfect.  If anyone wants the contact info for the seller, let me know. CL 
>> has beaten him up pretty badly, so I suspect if you were ready to walk up 
>> with cash in hand you could even get it for less than the current $995 
>> asking price.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

link?  or was that just some random car you ran across?  I could get the 
daughter unit to take a look at it if you want, she'll be back up there 
Thursday.


How low do you think the guy would go?  I have a truck and a trailer... 
or just catch a ride with her and drive it back...


--FT


On 1/31/18 1:08 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

I’m going to pass on this car.  While I’m confident the ASR issues would be 
easily resolved after researching them in detail, there are a lot of other 
little niggly bit to be addressed that I fear would just add up to the point 
where I would have too much money sunk into it for my satisfaction, especially 
because I’m going to have nearly $1500 into it before I even crack the hood 
with having to ship it home.

That is, I would Martha the p*ss out of it for more than its worth.

If anyone is interested, I think it would be a great project car that you could 
get going for minimal $$$ if you’re not worried about it being perfect.  If 
anyone wants the contact info for the seller, let me know. CL has beaten him up 
pretty badly, so I suspect if you were ready to walk up with cash in hand you 
could even get it for less than the current $995 asking price.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

You obviously need more land and a car hauler.

RB

On 31/01/2018 12:08 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

I’m going to pass on this car.  While I’m confident the ASR issues would be 
easily resolved after researching them in detail, there are a lot of other 
little niggly bit to be addressed that I fear would just add up to the point 
where I would have too much money sunk into it for my satisfaction, especially 
because I’m going to have nearly $1500 into it before I even crack the hood 
with having to ship it home.

That is, I would Martha the p*ss out of it for more than its worth.

If anyone is interested, I think it would be a great project car that you could 
get going for minimal $$$ if you’re not worried about it being perfect.  If 
anyone wants the contact info for the seller, let me know. CL has beaten him up 
pretty badly, so I suspect if you were ready to walk up with cash in hand you 
could even get it for less than the current $995 asking price.

-D

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[MBZ] 400E in Greenville, SC -$995.00

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I’m going to pass on this car.  While I’m confident the ASR issues would be 
easily resolved after researching them in detail, there are a lot of other 
little niggly bit to be addressed that I fear would just add up to the point 
where I would have too much money sunk into it for my satisfaction, especially 
because I’m going to have nearly $1500 into it before I even crack the hood 
with having to ship it home.

That is, I would Martha the p*ss out of it for more than its worth.

If anyone is interested, I think it would be a great project car that you could 
get going for minimal $$$ if you’re not worried about it being perfect.  If 
anyone wants the contact info for the seller, let me know. CL has beaten him up 
pretty badly, so I suspect if you were ready to walk up with cash in hand you 
could even get it for less than the current $995 asking price.

-D

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