Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer

2007-05-17 Thread Rick Knoble 




No rodbender. No wiring harness problems. Ac evap is a PITA to
change. '87 300TD's are one of the "Holy Grails" of Mercedes
dieseldom. It is the only year diesel 124 wagons were imported. It
is also the only year that particular engine was imported in the 124
chassis. Very powerful.


OK so assume the head is trashed.  I suppose a replacement could be
scavenged from somewhere -- how much $$?  Can that piston be changed
out with the engine in the car?  Would it be better to just try to
find a complete donor engine?



'87 heads are the "14" heads and are prone to cracking. Replacements can be 
purchased used from salvage yards, eBay and perhaps our list sponsor Kaleb. 
I believe the latest update on that head is a "22" casting number. New heads 
can be purchased from Rusty. I "think" you can change out the piston in the 
car, but that question would be better addressed by some of the other list 
guru's. Replacement engine? ask K'leb

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer

2007-05-17 Thread Allan Streib 
"Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> No rodbender. No wiring harness problems. Ac evap is a PITA to
> change. '87 300TD's are one of the "Holy Grails" of Mercedes
> dieseldom. It is the only year diesel 124 wagons were imported. It
> is also the only year that particular engine was imported in the 124
> chassis. Very powerful.

OK so assume the head is trashed.  I suppose a replacement could be
scavenged from somewhere -- how much $$?  Can that piston be changed
out with the engine in the car?  Would it be better to just try to
find a complete donor engine?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer

2007-05-17 Thread Rick Knoble 

I thought about the ether possibility too.  So would this 6 cylinder
be a "rodbender" ?   Have wiring harness problems?  Any other common
issues?



No rodbender. No wiring harness problems. Ac evap is a PITA to change. '87 
300TD's are one of the "Holy Grails" of Mercedes dieseldom. It is the only 
year diesel 124 wagons were imported. It is also the only year that 
particular engine was imported in the 124 chassis. Very powerful.


Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer

2007-05-17 Thread Allan Streib 
"Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Maybe it was started on ether. Low mileage like that would mean a
> fuel tank teaming with algae. Perhaps the previous owner was
> ignorant of the ways of Benz...

I thought about the ether possibility too.  So would this 6 cylinder
be a "rodbender" ?   Have wiring harness problems?  Any other common
issues?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer

2007-05-17 Thread Rick Knoble 

OK I read that auction again and he does say that a valve "cracked".
But -- isn't that a pretty rare thing to have happen?  What would
cause it?  Just a random defect or is it indicative of other neglect?


Maybe it was started on ether. Low mileage like that would mean a fuel tank 
teaming with algae. Perhaps the previous owner was ignorant of the ways of 
Benz...

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer

2007-05-17 Thread Allan Streib 
OK I read that auction again and he does say that a valve "cracked".
But -- isn't that a pretty rare thing to have happen?  What would
cause it?  Just a random defect or is it indicative of other neglect?


Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hey that's kind of interesting -- what do you suppose happened, a
> valve broke off?
>
> Allan
>
> "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> In Gawgia.
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-300td-station-wagon-diesel-needs-work-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ140119061737QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> Rick Knoble 
>> '85 300 CD
>> '87 190 DT

-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer

2007-05-17 Thread Allan Streib 
Hey that's kind of interesting -- what do you suppose happened, a
valve broke off?

Allan

"Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In Gawgia.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-300td-station-wagon-diesel-needs-work-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ140119061737QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Rick Knoble 
> '85 300 CD
> '87 190 DT

-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

[MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer

2007-05-17 Thread Rick Knoble 
In Gawgia.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-300td-station-wagon-diesel-needs-work-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ140119061737QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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$5950 for all 5?  or each???  They're being vague in the add

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Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head
'83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD!
'82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD!
'85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine


Quoting Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/331061885.html
> Something fishy about this, but I'd be interested to know the real scoop.
>
> -Curt
>