Re: [MBZ] Another weird one (curt content)
Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: With the old gasket and the old old gasket removed the new gasket fit perfect and sealed as it should. We even bought new blades for the mower which now actually cuts the grass rather than just pounding it out of the way... Reminds me of the first time I changed the oil in my new to me 1979 1/2 Chevy Citation. Penzoil filter (from Penzoil oil change franchise) was a real bear to unscrew, like it was seriously overtorqued. (the original owner lived in Lansing and worked in a GM plant in Detroit, so it couldn't have been on the car very long, IIRC he changed oil every 3000 miles) Left a long trail of oil on the concrete backing the car out of the garage. Checked the old oil filter, no seal on it. Took off the new filter, it had a seal on it and another one loose between block and filter. That was 30 years ago. I still carefully inspect every old spin-on filter before putting the new one on the engine. IIRC I've had the seal stick to the block one other time in my life, also from a filter that was on the car when I bought it. I suspect it happens when you don't oil the seal before installing the filter. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another weird one (curt content)
'Had Klima fail on my '91 350SDL and '87 300D. Also received a new bad one from Gary. He quickly sent a good replacement of course. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 9:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] Another weird one (curt content) I am so lucky! I get the weird ones. I seemed to have the first Klima relay problem reported on the dickarde list, while Herr Doktor said Klimas don't fail, and many other oddball things I try to forget. Curt, and maybe a few others who have driven International Letter model tractors (or 300 series) can relate to this one. The last H we bought never idled right. It ran ok at 1/3 throttle or more, but died if you tried to let it idle. a few years ago I cleaned up the carb and soaked it in carb cleaner for a few weeks, and put in the new parts in a kit from the stealer. The kit didn't have all the parts so for the missing parts, I reused the old ones. No improvement, but the needle didn't leak. The last time I ran it a couple years ago it was flooding, so I thought the float sunk. Saturday I had the carb off and on several times and could not get it to run right. Yesterday I went at it again, and I noticed what I thought was an idle jet, so I took it out and cleaned it up and looked at it. brass tube with a hole up from the bottom, but not clear through, no holes in the side. Seems to me it should either have holes in the side, or the hole should go clear through. I found an online parts diagram that confirmed it was the idle jet. I tried to ream it out with a copper wire clipped off to a chisel point. If it was varnish/dirt buildup, the wire should have gone through. It appears that the center was never drilled.So it is like my MB factory rebuilt short block that was missing the hole for one head bolt. The tractor appears that it was used with a front mounted woodsaw for most or all of its life. So, maybe they ran it at half or 3/4 throttle all the time and it never bothered. The carb was painted gray originally, so when i put the kit in, I painted it gray again. Some collector online said the factory carbs were painted red along with everything else, but the wheel rims. So maybe this was a factory parts carb. Called a farmer tractor collector to ask him if it was supposed to have the hole clear through, and he didn't know. Yesterday I found online a guy in Minnysoda who rebuilds tractor carbs, so I called him today and he confirmed the hole is supposed to go clear through. I ordered parts from him to fix the carb, so we'll see if it will idle. This Saturday is a small tractor show, so I will take it over if I have it running by then. It got new plugs, so when the parts get in it will get new points, condensor, rotor, and spark plug wires in addition to the carb parts. That oughta turn it into a happy camper. I am registered to take it on a tractor ride this summer, so i need it running good for that. Meanwhile yesterday when I was messing with it i forgot to turn the key off when I took the carb off the last time. My 12 volt battery burned up the 6v coil. I had brought along my Bosch 12 V coil salvaged from a MB gasser (MB content) so I put it on. I guess I am committed now to converting the tractor to 12V. I've been ambivalent between keeping it original and converting it to 12v for practicality. So after many decades of putting MB parts on frods, now I finally have a tractor with MB parts! That makes it truly mine! I wish an MB Bosch alternator would fit under the hood. I think I am stuck with a toada or other rice burner alternator to get one that will fit under the hood, unless y'all know of some newish MB alternator that has a small OD. Oh, and the last time I took it on a three day tractor ride a few years go, it had one of my MB group 49 batteries strapped on, so it has had some MB content before! A group 49 MB battery will run it all day with no generator, and still have juice left. 1948 IHC Farmall Model H ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another weird one (curt content)
'Had Klima fail on my '91 350SDL and '87 300D. Also received a new bad one from Gary. He quickly sent a good replacement of course. Wilton You are lucky Not many thing Herr Doktor was wrong about but he was wrong about Klimas never failing. It routes electrons. Things that move, route or corral electrons fail. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another weird one (curt content)
I am so lucky! I get the weird ones. I seemed to have the first Klima relay problem reported on the dickarde list, while Herr Doktor said Klimas don't fail, and many other oddball things I try to forget. Curt, and maybe a few others who have driven International Letter model tractors (or 300 series) can relate to this one. The last H we bought never idled right. It ran ok at 1/3 throttle or more, but died if you tried to let it idle. a few years ago I cleaned up the carb and soaked it in carb cleaner for a few weeks, and put in the new parts in a kit from the stealer. The kit didn't have all the parts so for the missing parts, I reused the old ones. No improvement, but the needle didn't leak. The last time I ran it a couple years ago it was flooding, so I thought the float sunk. Saturday I had the carb off and on several times and could not get it to run right. Yesterday I went at it again, and I noticed what I thought was an idle jet, so I took it out and cleaned it up and looked at it. brass tube with a hole up from the bottom, but not clear through, no holes in the side. Seems to me it should either have holes in the side, or the hole should go clear through. I found an online parts diagram that confirmed it was the idle jet. I tried to ream it out with a copper wire clipped off to a chisel point. If it was varnish/dirt buildup, the wire should have gone through. It appears that the center was never drilled.So it is like my MB factory rebuilt short block that was missing the hole for one head bolt. The tractor appears that it was used with a front mounted woodsaw for most or all of its life. So, maybe they ran it at half or 3/4 throttle all the time and it never bothered. The carb was painted gray originally, so when i put the kit in, I painted it gray again. Some collector online said the factory carbs were painted red along with everything else, but the wheel rims. So maybe this was a factory parts carb. Called a farmer tractor collector to ask him if it was supposed to have the hole clear through, and he didn't know. Yesterday I found online a guy in Minnysoda who rebuilds tractor carbs, so I called him today and he confirmed the hole is supposed to go clear through. I ordered parts from him to fix the carb, so we'll see if it will idle. This Saturday is a small tractor show, so I will take it over if I have it running by then. It got new plugs, so when the parts get in it will get new points, condensor, rotor, and spark plug wires in addition to the carb parts. That oughta turn it into a happy camper. I am registered to take it on a tractor ride this summer, so i need it running good for that. Meanwhile yesterday when I was messing with it i forgot to turn the key off when I took the carb off the last time. My 12 volt battery burned up the 6v coil. I had brought along my Bosch 12 V coil salvaged from a MB gasser (MB content) so I put it on. I guess I am committed now to converting the tractor to 12V. I've been ambivalent between keeping it original and converting it to 12v for practicality. So after many decades of putting MB parts on frods, now I finally have a tractor with MB parts! That makes it truly mine! I wish an MB Bosch alternator would fit under the hood. I think I am stuck with a toada or other rice burner alternator to get one that will fit under the hood, unless y'all know of some newish MB alternator that has a small OD. Oh, and the last time I took it on a three day tractor ride a few years go, it had one of my MB group 49 batteries strapped on, so it has had some MB content before! A group 49 MB battery will run it all day with no generator, and still have juice left. 1948 IHC Farmall Model H ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another weird one (curt content)
I'll withhold the attaboy until you know more but consider it there provisionally. :) I had a weird one on my '52 Super M the other day. I went to change the oil but could NOT get the oil filter housing to seal. The filter I got from Car Quest didn't come with a gasket but I had one from a water damaged IH filter. I farted around for a long time but couldn't get the gasket (really a square profile o-ring) to stay in its ring. I took a break and looked online (Dad bought a 4G hot spot that paid for itself that day) and found a post where somebody mentioned cleaning the groove the seal goes in. I worked on that for a little while cursing that I didn't have my scraper set from back home when I finally realized there was ANOTHER gasket in the groove. Pay attention now, I'd removed one gasket already but somehow the last time I'd changed the oil (or at some point in the past anyway) somebody hadn't removed the gasket so now there was one crammed down and causing my new one to not fit right. With the old gasket and the old old gasket removed the new gasket fit perfect and sealed as it should. We even bought new blades for the mower which now actually cuts the grass rather than just pounding it out of the way... -Curt I think I did that once with the MB Diesel filters. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another weird one (curt content)
I'll withhold the attaboy until you know more but consider it there provisionally. :) I had a weird one on my '52 Super M the other day. I went to change the oil but could NOT get the oil filter housing to seal. The filter I got from Car Quest didn't come with a gasket but I had one from a water damaged IH filter. I farted around for a long time but couldn't get the gasket (really a square profile o-ring) to stay in its ring. I took a break and looked online (Dad bought a 4G hot spot that paid for itself that day) and found a post where somebody mentioned cleaning the groove the seal goes in. I worked on that for a little while cursing that I didn't have my scraper set from back home when I finally realized there was ANOTHER gasket in the groove. Pay attention now, I'd removed one gasket already but somehow the last time I'd changed the oil (or at some point in the past anyway) somebody hadn't removed the gasket so now there was one crammed down and causing my new one to not fit right. With the old gasket and the old old gasket removed the new gasket fit perfect and sealed as it should. We even bought new blades for the mower which now actually cuts the grass rather than just pounding it out of the way... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 9:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] Another weird one (curt content) I am so lucky! I get the weird ones. I seemed to have the first Klima relay problem reported on the dickarde list, while Herr Doktor said Klimas don't fail, and many other oddball things I try to forget. Curt, and maybe a few others who have driven International Letter model tractors (or 300 series) can relate to this one. The last H we bought never idled right. It ran ok at 1/3 throttle or more, but died if you tried to let it idle. a few years ago I cleaned up the carb and soaked it in carb cleaner for a few weeks, and put in the new parts in a kit from the stealer. The kit didn't have all the parts so for the missing parts, I reused the old ones. No improvement, but the needle didn't leak. The last time I ran it a couple years ago it was flooding, so I thought the float sunk. Saturday I had the carb off and on several times and could not get it to run right. Yesterday I went at it again, and I noticed what I thought was an idle jet, so I took it out and cleaned it up and looked at it. brass tube with a hole up from the bottom, but not clear through, no holes in the side. Seems to me it should either have holes in the side, or the hole should go clear through. I found an online parts diagram that confirmed it was the idle jet. I tried to ream it out with a copper wire clipped off to a chisel point. If it was varnish/dirt buildup, the wire should have gone through. It appears that the center was never drilled. So it is like my MB factory rebuilt short block that was missing the hole for one head bolt. The tractor appears that it was used with a front mounted woodsaw for most or all of its life. So, maybe they ran it at half or 3/4 throttle all the time and it never bothered. The carb was painted gray originally, so when i put the kit in, I painted it gray again. Some collector online said the factory carbs were painted red along with everything else, but the wheel rims. So maybe this was a factory parts carb. Called a farmer tractor collector to ask him if it was supposed to have the hole clear through, and he didn't know. Yesterday I found online a guy in Minnysoda who rebuilds tractor carbs, so I called him today and he confirmed the hole is supposed to go clear through. I ordered parts from him to fix the carb, so we'll see if it will idle. This Saturday is a small tractor show, so I will take it over if I have it running by then. It got new plugs, so when the parts get in it will get new points, condensor, rotor, and spark plug wires in addition to the carb parts. That oughta turn it into a happy camper. I am registered to take it on a tractor ride this summer, so i need it running good for that. Meanwhile yesterday when I was messing with it i forgot to turn the key off when I took the carb off the last time. My 12 volt battery burned up the 6v coil. I had brought along my Bosch 12 V coil salvaged from a MB gasser (MB content) so I put it on. I guess I am committed now to converting the tractor to 12V. I've been ambivalent between keeping it original and converting it to 12v for practicality. So after many decades of putting MB parts on frods, now I finally have a tractor with MB parts! That makes it truly mine! I wish an MB Bosch alternator would fit under the hood. I think I am stuck with a toada or other rice burner alternator to get one that will fit under the hood, unless y'all know of some newish MB alternator that has a small OD. Oh
Re: [MBZ] Another weird one (curt content)
And another ATTABOY. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another weird one (curt content) I'll withhold the attaboy until you know more but consider it there provisionally. :) I had a weird one on my '52 Super M the other day. I went to change the oil but could NOT get the oil filter housing to seal. The filter I got from Car Quest didn't come with a gasket but I had one from a water damaged IH filter. I farted around for a long time but couldn't get the gasket (really a square profile o-ring) to stay in its ring. I took a break and looked online (Dad bought a 4G hot spot that paid for itself that day) and found a post where somebody mentioned cleaning the groove the seal goes in. I worked on that for a little while cursing that I didn't have my scraper set from back home when I finally realized there was ANOTHER gasket in the groove. Pay attention now, I'd removed one gasket already but somehow the last time I'd changed the oil (or at some point in the past anyway) somebody hadn't removed the gasket so now there was one crammed down and causing my new one to not fit right. With the old gasket and the old old gasket removed the new gasket fit perfect and sealed as it should. We even bought new blades for the mower which now actually cuts the grass rather than just pounding it out of the way... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 9:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] Another weird one (curt content) I am so lucky! I get the weird ones. I seemed to have the first Klima relay problem reported on the dickarde list, while Herr Doktor said Klimas don't fail, and many other oddball things I try to forget. Curt, and maybe a few others who have driven International Letter model tractors (or 300 series) can relate to this one. The last H we bought never idled right. It ran ok at 1/3 throttle or more, but died if you tried to let it idle. a few years ago I cleaned up the carb and soaked it in carb cleaner for a few weeks, and put in the new parts in a kit from the stealer. The kit didn't have all the parts so for the missing parts, I reused the old ones. No improvement, but the needle didn't leak. The last time I ran it a couple years ago it was flooding, so I thought the float sunk. Saturday I had the carb off and on several times and could not get it to run right. Yesterday I went at it again, and I noticed what I thought was an idle jet, so I took it out and cleaned it up and looked at it. brass tube with a hole up from the bottom, but not clear through, no holes in the side. Seems to me it should either have holes in the side, or the hole should go clear through. I found an online parts diagram that confirmed it was the idle jet. I tried to ream it out with a copper wire clipped off to a chisel point. If it was varnish/dirt buildup, the wire should have gone through. It appears that the center was never drilled. So it is like my MB factory rebuilt short block that was missing the hole for one head bolt. The tractor appears that it was used with a front mounted woodsaw for most or all of its life. So, maybe they ran it at half or 3/4 throttle all the time and it never bothered. The carb was painted gray originally, so when i put the kit in, I painted it gray again. Some collector online said the factory carbs were painted red along with everything else, but the wheel rims. So maybe this was a factory parts carb. Called a farmer tractor collector to ask him if it was supposed to have the hole clear through, and he didn't know. Yesterday I found online a guy in Minnysoda who rebuilds tractor carbs, so I called him today and he confirmed the hole is supposed to go clear through. I ordered parts from him to fix the carb, so we'll see if it will idle. This Saturday is a small tractor show, so I will take it over if I have it running by then. It got new plugs, so when the parts get in it will get new points, condensor, rotor, and spark plug wires in addition to the carb parts. That oughta turn it into a happy camper. I am registered to take it on a tractor ride this summer, so i need it running good for that. Meanwhile yesterday when I was messing with it i forgot to turn the key off when I took the carb off the last time. My 12 volt battery burned up the 6v coil. I had brought along my Bosch 12 V coil salvaged from a MB gasser (MB content) so I put it on. I guess I am committed now to converting the tractor to 12V. I've been ambivalent between keeping it original and converting it to 12v for practicality. So after many decades of putting MB parts on frods, now I finally have a tractor with MB parts! That makes it truly mine! I wish an MB Bosch alternator would fit
Re: [MBZ] Another weird one (curt content)
ATTABOY so far; 'hope it continues to go well. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 9:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] Another weird one (curt content) I am so lucky! I get the weird ones. I seemed to have the first Klima relay problem reported on the dickarde list, while Herr Doktor said Klimas don't fail, and many other oddball things I try to forget. Curt, and maybe a few others who have driven International Letter model tractors (or 300 series) can relate to this one. The last H we bought never idled right. It ran ok at 1/3 throttle or more, but died if you tried to let it idle. a few years ago I cleaned up the carb and soaked it in carb cleaner for a few weeks, and put in the new parts in a kit from the stealer. The kit didn't have all the parts so for the missing parts, I reused the old ones. No improvement, but the needle didn't leak. The last time I ran it a couple years ago it was flooding, so I thought the float sunk. Saturday I had the carb off and on several times and could not get it to run right. Yesterday I went at it again, and I noticed what I thought was an idle jet, so I took it out and cleaned it up and looked at it. brass tube with a hole up from the bottom, but not clear through, no holes in the side. Seems to me it should either have holes in the side, or the hole should go clear through. I found an online parts diagram that confirmed it was the idle jet. I tried to ream it out with a copper wire clipped off to a chisel point. If it was varnish/dirt buildup, the wire should have gone through. It appears that the center was never drilled.So it is like my MB factory rebuilt short block that was missing the hole for one head bolt. The tractor appears that it was used with a front mounted woodsaw for most or all of its life. So, maybe they ran it at half or 3/4 throttle all the time and it never bothered. The carb was painted gray originally, so when i put the kit in, I painted it gray again. Some collector online said the factory carbs were painted red along with everything else, but the wheel rims. So maybe this was a factory parts carb. Called a farmer tractor collector to ask him if it was supposed to have the hole clear through, and he didn't know. Yesterday I found online a guy in Minnysoda who rebuilds tractor carbs, so I called him today and he confirmed the hole is supposed to go clear through. I ordered parts from him to fix the carb, so we'll see if it will idle. This Saturday is a small tractor show, so I will take it over if I have it running by then. It got new plugs, so when the parts get in it will get new points, condensor, rotor, and spark plug wires in addition to the carb parts. That oughta turn it into a happy camper. I am registered to take it on a tractor ride this summer, so i need it running good for that. Meanwhile yesterday when I was messing with it i forgot to turn the key off when I took the carb off the last time. My 12 volt battery burned up the 6v coil. I had brought along my Bosch 12 V coil salvaged from a MB gasser (MB content) so I put it on. I guess I am committed now to converting the tractor to 12V. I've been ambivalent between keeping it original and converting it to 12v for practicality. So after many decades of putting MB parts on frods, now I finally have a tractor with MB parts! That makes it truly mine! I wish an MB Bosch alternator would fit under the hood. I think I am stuck with a toada or other rice burner alternator to get one that will fit under the hood, unless y'all know of some newish MB alternator that has a small OD. Oh, and the last time I took it on a three day tractor ride a few years go, it had one of my MB group 49 batteries strapped on, so it has had some MB content before! A group 49 MB battery will run it all day with no generator, and still have juice left. 1948 IHC Farmall Model H ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
