Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
If you are talking about making some sort of extension to be able to plug one end to the harness in the car and the other end to the seat brain box with the seat out of the car, that might work. Would have to find some sort of connector though that will be able to plug into the car end though. OK Don wrote: The extension wire will run from the harness where the seat would have plugged in to the harness, with the other end plugging into the seat connector. You should be able to just use the postion switches to move it as needed, and not invoke the memory function. The reason to make different extension wires is have the proper plugs. On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im not sure how that would work with the memory type since it runs thru the brain box first. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
That would be from a salvaged seat -- -- Yes - that's what I'm talking about. The quick and dirty method. On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are talking about making some sort of extension to be able to plug one end to the harness in the car and the other end to the seat brain box with the seat out of the car, that might work. Would have to find some sort of connector though that will be able to plug into the car end though. OK Don wrote: The extension wire will run from the harness where the seat would have plugged in to the harness, with the other end plugging into the seat connector. You should be able to just use the postion switches to move it as needed, and not invoke the memory function. The reason to make different extension wires is have the proper plugs. On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im not sure how that would work with the memory type since it runs thru the brain box first. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
[MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
I have the drivers seat out of an SDL and have bogged down. My problem was that a new fuse would allow it to operate for a week or so, then blow another fuse. It was during the fore and aft movement. I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. Anyone? Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
Well you are going to have to remove the seat completely. First move seat all the way back and remove front 2 bolts, then move all the way forward for the back 2. Then you can get to the motors etc and see if one of the wires is damaged or something. Harry Watkins wrote: I have the drivers seat out of an SDL and have bogged down. My problem was that a new fuse would allow it to operate for a week or so, then blow another fuse. It was during the fore and aft movement. I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. Anyone? Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
I usually just get it sort of stuck in the car door a little just so the cord will reach to move it back and forth. OR, you can just stick the proper drill bit in the special port on the motor just for the purpose of manually moving it back at forth. As for the pins, the older style with no memory is different than the later memory seats. That is why the pins are different. Loren Faeth wrote: Yes, but if you read, Harry already HAD his seat out. those instructions get the seat out but then you are stuck! I just had my SDL seat out for the second time and it is as bad as or worse than the heater fans they stick on a stand and then build the car around. The problem is, once you get the seat out of the car, you can't unbolt the seat from the slides or the slides from the power mechanism. I thought I was real smart and had the bottom off of a 126 SE on hand before I took the seat out. WRONG the SE seat had large pins and the SDL seat had small pins. NO swapping parts, even if you COULD get all the bolts out. You cant get the seat into a workable position with the plugs in for power, and you can't move the cussed slides without power to the right pins. What we need is a test/repair bench for sears with plugs and switches from a junker to move the seat around once it is out of the car. The only solution I have had is to pull the seat, take out some bolts, put it back in move it fore/aft and take the seat out and remove some more bolts until you get them all. This means you have to put in and take out the cussed seat 2- 3 times for disassembly and the same for assembly. I did manage to get my slides straightened and working again, but it is a ROYAL pain, and with heated or the vacuum operated ortho cushions, it gets even worse. At 09:12 PM 12/25/2005, you wrote: Well you are going to have to remove the seat completely. First move seat all the way back and remove front 2 bolts, then move all the way forward for the back 2. Then you can get to the motors etc and see if one of the wires is damaged or something. Harry Watkins wrote: I have the drivers seat out of an SDL and have bogged down. My problem was that a new fuse would allow it to operate for a week or so, then blow another fuse. It was during the fore and aft movement. I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. Anyone? Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
I have the drivers seat out of an SDL and have bogged down. My problem was that a new fuse would allow it to operate for a week or so, then blow another fuse. It was during the fore and aft movement. I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. Anyone? Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. What you said _is_ my procedure for such things! Persevere. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
Well too bad you didnt see this then: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8024585038rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1 My SDL was blowing fuses everytime you tried to move the backrest. Last weekend after much complaining from the wife about the broken seat springs I pulled the seat out to replace the spring box. Discovered the wires to the backrest motor completely severed. Think they got caught on a broken spring. Spliced them back together and now it works fine. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm having the same seat problem in my SDL (blowing fuses), and i'll start with my mistake... while coming back from mexico last year, i ran out of fuses because they were good only for about enough time to move it a bit...so i used the old standby-replacement 12 ga wire instead of a fuse...seat worked fine for a bit... then the smell of a printed circuit board in the seat computer reminded me of my acumin in the auto electronics department!...fried that rascal... didja know that a used replacement has less computing power than a disposable digital camera?...and only costs about $150?? well, i'm back to using a fresh fuse when i wish to change seat positions... i'll test the motors next, and i'll bet the recline motor is bad stay tuned john -- Original message -- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but if you read, Harry already HAD his seat out. those instructions get the seat out but then you are stuck! I just had my SDL seat out for the second time and it is as bad as or worse than the heater fans they stick on a stand and then build the car around. The problem is, once you get the seat out of the car, you can't unbolt the seat from the slides or the slides from the power mechanism. I thought I was real smart and had the bottom off of a 126 SE on hand before I took the seat out. WRONG the SE seat had large pins and the SDL seat had small pins. NO swapping parts, even if you COULD get all the bolts out. You cant get the seat into a workable position with the plugs in for power, and you can't move the cussed slides without power to the right pins. What we need is a test/repair bench for sears with plugs and switches from a junker to move the seat around once it is out of the car. The only solution I have had is to pull the seat, take out some bolts, put it back in move it fore/aft and take the seat out and remove some more bolts until you get them all. This means you have to put in and take out the cussed seat 2- 3 times for disassembly and the same for assembly. I did manage to get my slides straightened and working again, but it is a ROYAL pain, and with heated or the vacuum operated ortho cushions, it gets even worse. At 09:12 PM 12/25/2005, you wrote: Well you are going to have to remove the seat completely. First move seat all the way back and remove front 2 bolts, then move all the way forward for the back 2. Then you can get to the motors etc and see if one of the wires is damaged or something. Harry Watkins wrote: I have the drivers seat out of an SDL and have bogged down. My problem was that a new fuse would allow it to operate for a week or so, then blow another fuse. It was during the fore and aft movement. I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. Anyone? Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C.
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
Kaleb wrote: OR, you can just stick the proper drill bit in the special port on the motor just for the purpose of manually moving it back at forth. Tell me more, in my case right now, this would solve my problem. I need to be able to move the driven gear rail about two inches in order to get a center screw out. However, after that its still a guess. You really don't mean a drill bit, do you? Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
On the opposite side of the motors from where the cable comes out is a port that will accept a square bit. You can use that to turn the motors manually. Harry Watkins wrote: Kaleb wrote: OR, you can just stick the proper drill bit in the special port on the motor just for the purpose of manually moving it back at forth. Tell me more, in my case right now, this would solve my problem. I need to be able to move the driven gear rail about two inches in order to get a center screw out. However, after that its still a guess. You really don't mean a drill bit, do you? Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
Kaleb - we need a couple of seat end and chassis wiring harness end connectors with some wire still attached to make a few extension cord sets for working on these seats. We can mail them around as needed. If you'll pull the connectors/wires, I'll solder them up into extension cords. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
That worked, I now have the screw lined up to come out and got called to lunch (I never miss lunch). To make a tool I hammered the end of a welding rod (1109) square, finished with a file and used a drill motor to move the rail. The square (without measuring) seems to be about the size of a speedometer cable end but I don't have an old one to try. I am going to shape my welding rod into a crank and not use the drill motor. It also turns out that two of the three motors have the square hole exposed, but the fore/aft motor does not so I inserted my tool into the driven gear square to make the move. I plan to drill a hole in the motor frame to cure that problem. Until I reassemble, I don't know if you can crank the motors with the motor frame fastened to the side rails or not, I have them loose right now so I can move it all around. I'll post my findings. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the opposite side of the motors from where the cable comes out is a port that will accept a square bit. You can use that to turn the motors manually. Harry Watkins wrote: Kaleb wrote: OR, you can just stick the proper drill bit in the special port on the motor just for the purpose of manually moving it back at forth. Tell me more, in my case right now, this would solve my problem. I need to be able to move the driven gear rail about two inches in order to get a center screw out. However, after that its still a guess. You really don't mean a drill bit, do you?
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
I just pull the drive cable out of the motor and chuck it in my drill motor. The lock plates are only at the gearbox side. On 12/26/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb - we need a couple of seat end and chassis wiring harness end connectors with some wire still attached to make a few extension cord sets for working on these seats. We can mail them around as needed. If you'll pull the connectors/wires, I'll solder them up into extension cords. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
Hi Harry, This guy has published a series of repair booklets for Mercedes. I bought one for the W123 seats but much of the info relates to several models. The books are very complete with photos of each step. http://www.mercedessource.com/ HTH's -- Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D w/286K) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site? I have the drivers seat out of an SDL and have bogged down. My problem was that a new fuse would allow it to operate for a week or so, then blow another fuse. It was during the fore and aft movement. I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. Anyone? Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
OK, next car I part out will do. OK Don wrote: Kaleb - we need a couple of seat end and chassis wiring harness end connectors with some wire still attached to make a few extension cord sets for working on these seats. We can mail them around as needed. If you'll pull the connectors/wires, I'll solder them up into extension cords. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
yea, should be the same as the speedo drive I think. Harry Watkins wrote: That worked, I now have the screw lined up to come out and got called to lunch (I never miss lunch). To make a tool I hammered the end of a welding rod (1109) square, finished with a file and used a drill motor to move the rail. The square (without measuring) seems to be about the size of a speedometer cable end but I don't have an old one to try. I am going to shape my welding rod into a crank and not use the drill motor. It also turns out that two of the three motors have the square hole exposed, but the fore/aft motor does not so I inserted my tool into the driven gear square to make the move. I plan to drill a hole in the motor frame to cure that problem. Until I reassemble, I don't know if you can crank the motors with the motor frame fastened to the side rails or not, I have them loose right now so I can move it all around. I'll post my findings. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the opposite side of the motors from where the cable comes out is a port that will accept a square bit. You can use that to turn the motors manually. Harry Watkins wrote: Kaleb wrote: OR, you can just stick the proper drill bit in the special port on the motor just for the purpose of manually moving it back at forth. Tell me more, in my case right now, this would solve my problem. I need to be able to move the driven gear rail about two inches in order to get a center screw out. However, after that its still a guess. You really don't mean a drill bit, do you? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
I'm guessing we need a set each for the memory and non-memory seats - is that all? On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, next car I part out will do. OK Don wrote: Kaleb - we need a couple of seat end and chassis wiring harness end connectors with some wire still attached to make a few extension cord sets for working on these seats. We can mail them around as needed. If you'll pull the connectors/wires, I'll solder them up into extension cords. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
The extension wire will run from the harness where the seat would have plugged in to the harness, with the other end plugging into the seat connector. You should be able to just use the postion switches to move it as needed, and not invoke the memory function. The reason to make different extension wires is have the proper plugs. On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im not sure how that would work with the memory type since it runs thru the brain box first. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
