Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!
I too have noticed over the years that 123 240D's feel MUCH slower than 115 versions. Talking about autos, not sticks. Same probably applies though. B Dike wrote: Gentlemen, An auto 240D is not necessarily slow. Our 75 (W115) isn't head-snapping fast, but is easily quick enough to maneuver and stay ahead of traffic. It has a great crisp motor and tranny. It seems to be geared low, not sure, but it definitely feels nimble and responsive. On the other hand, the 77 240D (W123, manual) was abysmally slow when I got it last year. It is steadily improving with M1 and hard driving but has a long way to go to catch up with the W115. I think it is heavier than the W123, at least it feels that way. I drove another W123 240D the other day and it was a slug, although the owner crowed about its strong motor. But I know of at least one 240D that isn't slow. Bruce -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
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I need one of those ... what is the HP on a W123 240D? I might custom-order one. On 9/27/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I'm in the right lane, pedal to the floor speeding up as fast as I can. The next 2 lanes over are generally busy so whomever was behind me is staying behind me to the top of the hill which is only about 1/4 - 1/2 mile. So at least once a week I'll get some jackass who absolutely can't wait. They always act the same. They'll start weaving back and forth in the lane, then they'll pull right up onto my back bumper, then they'll back off and lay on the horn. I always give them a friendly wave at that point. I used to have a bumper sticker on my diesel Vanagon that said, 48 HORSEPOWER - PLEASE, JUST PASS. I figured people were less likely to get angry if I could get them laughing first. I don't get angry at slow drivers, except for the ones who get panicky and hit the brakes on entrance ramps, when they should be speeding up. If they want to commit suicide that's fine, but they shouldn't get me involved. ;) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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LT Don wrote: I need one of those ... what is the HP on a W123 240D? I might custom-order one. In 1977 it is 62 hp and 67 hp in 1980!! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
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I have no idea what a Parker Wagon is. Please elaborate or explain to us city folk. On 9/27/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don wrote: I need one of those ... what is the HP on a W123 240D? I might custom-order one. In 1977 it is 62 hp and 67 hp in 1980!! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Driving an auto 240D takes a certain mindset ... and a great deal of patience for town driving. However, they are great road trip cars. I love mine. It saw 85 mph with no complaint coming back from the last OkieQ. If I want to accelerate, I climb onto my motorcycle. If I want to just cruise along, I take the 240D. I will admit, however, that the Benz turbos did seem to pull away from me rather quickly leaving stop lights during the OkieQ convey rides. Come to think of it, MMM's dearly departed 4-cylinder gasser also left me in the dust. But I do love my 240D. Don On 9/26/05, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know, old news to most of you. But I'd never driven one for any significant length of time until my indy lent me one for two days while working on my 124. Now I know what drive it like you stole it REALLY means! It maintained cruising speed just fine on the flat, but it's pretty disconcerting to floor the loud pedal at any speed over 50 or so and have basically nothing to speak of happen unless you have a few minutes to wait. I'm impressed with the gumption of people who drive these on a regular basis, especially if it's in a place with high-speed cutthroat freeway traffic. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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I once had the misfortune of having to rent a geo metro for a week in Silicon Valley. Beyond the fact that the 3 cyl engine was pitiful, mind in rush hour bumper to bumper 20 mph traffic this was ok, but the fact it had no power steering meant that my arms arched after getting back to my apt from the jarring that went on the concrete expansion joints on hyw 101. I discovered the following week that if I rented 1 or 2 levels up it was only an extra $5 per day, and usually Hertz overbooked those models at the SF airport and I'd get a full size car instead for no extra charge. On 26-Sep-05, at 8:35 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: Ed Booher wrote: Reminds me of an article I read in the Indy Star a couple of years ago when the first of the new Beetle Convertibles came out. I don't remember it verbatim, but the general idea was this: When you press the pedal to the floor, in true German efficiency, the engine files a request in triplicate to the transmission which is then read, lost, considered, found, lost again then finally denied. I remember a letter to the editor in a car magazine where someone described the accelerator pedal in a Geo Metro as being ...like a thermostat: Pick a setting, wait, eventually something happens. John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1992 300TDt 148k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!
There is a word for your new method of driving -- maturity (sometimes called getting older). On 9/27/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The mindset of most of the driving public baffles me. I've been commuting with my 240D manual for 2 1/2 years now 80 miles a day largely highway. Lately in an effort to save fuel I've been cruising at around 65mph and trying to ease up to that speed. Whats really crazy are the people who will honk the horn and flip me off and then fight their way over into the passing lane. Quite often when I get off the highway I'm right behind a guy who 20 minutes earlier was totally pissed that I was holding him up. Whoa he sure saved some time there. -Curt -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The mindset of most of the driving public baffles me. I've been commuting with my 240D manual for 2 1/2 years now 80 miles a day largely highway. Lately in an effort to save fuel I've been cruising at around 65mph and trying to ease up to that speed. Whats really crazy are the people who will honk the horn and flip me off and then fight their way over into the passing lane. Quite often when I get off the highway I'm right behind a guy who 20 minutes earlier was totally pissed that I was holding him up. Whoa he sure saved some time there. I see it as part of a larger problem, not really related to driving per se. Our society is largely unhappy, and getting worse by the day. I use the example of my old neighbourhood, a slightly upscale (rental) urban area close to a bar/resto/tourist strip. Very much in favour with 19-30 year old singles. When I moved there, the pharmacy had one pharmacist and one clerk on duty behind the counter and you could often stop and chat with the pharmacist easily, as it was rarely busy. When I left after about 15 years there, the population had not changed much but there were now three pharmacists and up to four clerks behind that same counter and it was pandamonium from opening to close. GP physicians mostly treat unhappiness and discontent in the guise of illness, these days. I feel for them, as I cannot imagine what it's like to listen to the parade of lifestyle-induced complaints all day. mac
Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!
Mac waxed poetic and typed: I see it as part of a larger problem, not really related to driving per se. Our society is largely unhappy, and getting worse by the day. For a moment there I thought Dr. Seuss was posting something... Bob Rentfro '77 300D 140K Litchfield Park, AZ
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The 29 year old part of me doesn't want to hear that. The geeky part of me likes to see how high I can get the fuel economy numbers. The rest of me is trying to save up for a house so driving slower makes alot of sense. -Curt Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:18:14 -0500 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There is a word for your new method of driving -- maturity (sometimes called getting older). - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 27 16:29:43 2005 Received: from web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.36]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EKIKs-XD-W9 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:29:43 + Received: (qmail 5140 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2005 16:29:39 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=igl9Z28nwa+IcX7DMN/ycwfl/xSFpvwG1lHreaH1+deQCWrb/iwHzSmsv0JEoF4g4m1pfrgQBRXKr6dpTBorlDTM8UY4tHNfZLOqSS3NLxviCJm/f1q1KBVRhMtvnLuUBeE9qyUaqMXJoM6AGt44rx6Xrxly6v1E3X40Ifkno9Y= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [65.196.0.66] by web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:29:39 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:29:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy, was: Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:29:43 - At that speed Hammie will regularly turn in 26-27mpg. At 65mph I've gotten an all time high of 31.7mpg but that was with all season tires. I noticed a consistant 2-3mpg loss when I switched to snowtires but I'm too cheap to have 2 sets of tires and I don't really have anywhere to put the offseason set. These snows will be pretty well worn out next spring so it'll be time for new all seasons. Side question, I've got (I think) 30psi in the tires on the car now. Sidewall max is I think 35psi (need to check). I saw a post the other day that suggested running more like 32. I think the placard on the car recommends something like 28psi... I'm thinking at 32psi I could squeak out a couple more mpg. -Curt '83 240D Hammie 245kmi Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 08:24:51 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Curt mentioned: Lately in an effort to save fuel I've been cruising at around 65mph I also drive nearly 80 miles on my commute. Setting the cruise on 78 gets me two things: 1) frequently flipped off, and 2) 24MPG. Remembering I have a 300D, does that seem correct? At what speed have yous guys noted 300Ds getting their optimum MPGs? Does 24MPG at 78-80 MPH seem right? (FWIW...I usually dislike fuel economy threads but my curiosity is getting the best of me) Bob Rentfro '77 300D 140K Litchfield Park, AZ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 27 16:38:21 2005 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([63.240.76.28]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EKITC-0001Xe-Sh for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:38:20 + Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id 2005092716381401300fo9i4e; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:38:14 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:37:49 -0400 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes
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Good point. My new attitude as soon as I sit down in my car is I don't really car if I get there or not so by connection I don't really care how long it takes me to get there or what road I take to get there or anything. I find myself smiling alot more while I drive. The other day I stopped for fuel, I've been stopping at this one particular station because its on a hill and Hammie's starter has been refusing to work when warm (I have the replacement but haven't put it in yet). So I fueled up and chatted with the young hottie fueling the gasser next to me, she thought Hammie was just dreamy. I hopped in to take off, hit the key and nothing happened. So I got up and gave a little push to get rolling. The young hottie asked what I was doing, starting my car. She gave me the confused look so I said she could get in the car and watch if she wanted. She got in the passenger seat, I pushed again, we rolled a few feet, I slipped the trans into 3rd, eased out the clutch and we were running. I was joking when I said she could get in and very surprised when she did. She seemed real surprised when she noticed my wedding ring. *sigh* -Curt Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:43:18 -0400 From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I see it as part of a larger problem, not really related to driving per se. Our society is largely unhappy, and getting worse by the day. I use the example of my old neighbourhood, a slightly upscale (rental) urban area close to a bar/resto/tourist strip. Very much in favour with 19-30 year old singles. When I moved there, the pharmacy had one pharmacist and one clerk on duty behind the counter and you could often stop and chat with the pharmacist easily, as it was rarely busy. When I left after about 15 years there, the population had not changed much but there were now three pharmacists and up to four clerks behind that same counter and it was pandamonium from opening to close. GP physicians mostly treat unhappiness and discontent in the guise of illness, these days. I feel for them, as I cannot imagine what it's like to listen to the parade of lifestyle-induced complaints all day. mac - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 27 16:39:37 2005 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.207]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EKIUT-0001cH-EZ for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:39:37 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c3so398324nze for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:39:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YsA6XL7ii8kYFdq07Q7wd94pYDrPVXxojNXGvRjm5KpxPhexmpa5eP9SwRwk1NoPpsEoqS2PfuzDLJ2J8P1Qno0qb/M8/lBwxwJYf6tH6fNNNx0i8WIte3xqox20v/ZcvDRk7ei4rv+YXrEq/m7dCFYU0P2UQDQrx0REN27OwXI= Received: by 10.36.252.54 with SMTP id z54mr2751587nzh; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.17 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:39:30 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Governmentium X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:39:38 - Need one for Cheneyium, Bushium, or Exxonium too. Any creative blue-imprinted out there want to have a go at it? On 9/26/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is old, but is making the rounds again -- Scientists Discover New Element A major research institution has just announced the discovery of the heaviest element yet known to science. The new element has been named Governmentium. Governmentium has
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mac waxed poetic and typed: I see it as part of a larger problem, not really related to driving per se. Our society is largely unhappy, and getting worse by the day. For a moment there I thought Dr. Seuss was posting something... Green eggs and ham, my inbox is full of dull Mercedes spam! Mac
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hey curt, do you drive slow in the fast lane? Maybe that's whats pissing people off...i know it gets under my skin On 9/27/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a word for your new method of driving -- maturity (sometimes called getting older). On 9/27/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The mindset of most of the driving public baffles me. I've been commuting with my 240D manual for 2 1/2 years now 80 miles a day largely highway. Lately in an effort to save fuel I've been cruising at around 65mph and trying to ease up to that speed. Whats really crazy are the people who will honk the horn and flip me off and then fight their way over into the passing lane. Quite often when I get off the highway I'm right behind a guy who 20 minutes earlier was totally pissed that I was holding him up. Whoa he sure saved some time there. -Curt -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
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Mac typed: Green eggs and ham, my inbox is full of dull Mercedes spam! My apoligies ahead of time to the good Dr I will drive no other car I like my old diesel best by far Everytime before I go I must make sure the plugs will glow Living here in hot AZ The glowing time is short for me As people pass they point and joke It must be an old car...look at it smoke I always will tell them...and I am no liar You wish your exhaust smelled like a deep fat fryer I get passed by a man on a jog Cars go 'round me like a scalded dog When we sit at stoplights they really scoff 'Cause it's Italian Tune-ups when I take off. This is quite fun, I tell you the truth I do it each time for Old Dr. Booth For all of her maintenance I keep detailed charts I call Kaleb and Rusty for all of my parts I wash her and wax her and park out of the sun No dino juice for me...it must be Mobil 1 When I get looked at by people in fine raiment I tell them I'm glad I don't have their Hummer payment Long after their cars begin to corrode And they frequently will have to be towed Their accounts, because of payments, will errode My pride in my car will then explode Because I will still be klatta klatta down the road. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 140K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!
Gentlemen, An auto 240D is not necessarily slow. Our 75 (W115) isn't head-snapping fast, but is easily quick enough to maneuver and stay ahead of traffic. It has a great crisp motor and tranny. It seems to be geared low, not sure, but it definitely feels nimble and responsive. On the other hand, the 77 240D (W123, manual) was abysmally slow when I got it last year. It is steadily improving with M1 and hard driving but has a long way to go to catch up with the W115. I think it is heavier than the W123, at least it feels that way. I drove another W123 240D the other day and it was a slug, although the owner crowed about its strong motor. But I know of at least one 240D that isn't slow. Bruce --- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad you came out alive Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:09 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! Yes, I know, old news to most of you. But I'd never driven one for any significant length of time until my indy lent me one for two days while working on my 124. Now I know what drive it like you stole it REALLY means! It maintained cruising speed just fine on the flat, but it's pretty disconcerting to floor the loud pedal at any speed over 50 or so and have basically nothing to speak of happen unless you have a few minutes to wait. I'm impressed with the gumption of people who drive these on a regular basis, especially if it's in a place with high-speed cutthroat freeway traffic. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 333kmi 'His' 85 300CD 234kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 185kmi 'Theirs' (Back in Commission) 77 240D 199kmi 'The Brown Car' __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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BRAVO! BRAVO! On 9/27/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mac typed: Green eggs and ham, my inbox is full of dull Mercedes spam! My apoligies ahead of time to the good Dr I will drive no other car I like my old diesel best by far Everytime before I go I must make sure the plugs will glow Living here in hot AZ The glowing time is short for me As people pass they point and joke It must be an old car...look at it smoke I always will tell them...and I am no liar You wish your exhaust smelled like a deep fat fryer I get passed by a man on a jog Cars go 'round me like a scalded dog When we sit at stoplights they really scoff 'Cause it's Italian Tune-ups when I take off. This is quite fun, I tell you the truth I do it each time for Old Dr. Booth For all of her maintenance I keep detailed charts I call Kaleb and Rusty for all of my parts I wash her and wax her and park out of the sun No dino juice for me...it must be Mobil 1 When I get looked at by people in fine raiment I tell them I'm glad I don't have their Hummer payment Long after their cars begin to corrode And they frequently will have to be towed Their accounts, because of payments, will errode My pride in my car will then explode Because I will still be klatta klatta down the road. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 140K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!
TYPO - The W123 feels heavier than the W115, not vice versa. --- B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentlemen, An auto 240D is not necessarily slow. Our 75 (W115) isn't head-snapping fast, but is easily quick enough to maneuver and stay ahead of traffic. It has a great crisp motor and tranny. It seems to be geared low, not sure, but it definitely feels nimble and responsive. On the other hand, the 77 240D (W123, manual) was abysmally slow when I got it last year. It is steadily improving with M1 and hard driving but has a long way to go to catch up with the W115. I think it is heavier than the W123, at least it feels that way. I drove another W123 240D the other day and it was a slug, although the owner crowed about its strong motor. But I know of at least one 240D that isn't slow. Bruce --- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad you came out alive Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:09 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! Yes, I know, old news to most of you. But I'd never driven one for any significant length of time until my indy lent me one for two days while working on my 124. Now I know what drive it like you stole it REALLY means! It maintained cruising speed just fine on the flat, but it's pretty disconcerting to floor the loud pedal at any speed over 50 or so and have basically nothing to speak of happen unless you have a few minutes to wait. I'm impressed with the gumption of people who drive these on a regular basis, especially if it's in a place with high-speed cutthroat freeway traffic. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 333kmi 'His' 85 300CD 234kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 185kmi 'Theirs' (Back in Commission) 77 240D 199kmi 'The Brown Car' __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!
Heck no, if I'm in the passing lane I'm actually passing. I get the most honks where RT 2 and 495 meet in Littleton, MA. I come around the cloverleaf at 35mph and accelerate as fast as I can onto 495. If I can merge immediately I can be at 65mph by the top of the hill which isn't screaming acceleration but is a steady increase. So what happens pretty frequently is that I'm in the right lane, pedal to the floor speeding up as fast as I can. The next 2 lanes over are generally busy so whomever was behind me is staying behind me to the top of the hill which is only about 1/4 - 1/2 mile. So at least once a week I'll get some jackass who absolutely can't wait. They always act the same. They'll start weaving back and forth in the lane, then they'll pull right up onto my back bumper, then they'll back off and lay on the horn. I always give them a friendly wave at that point. As soon as theres an opening they SHOOT by me usually with the horn blaring and middle finger raised. Then I'll watch as they bob and weave through traffic only to inevitably get cutoff by some slow moving truck or something. They work so hard and gain so little... -Curt Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:34:43 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! To: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hey curt, do you drive slow in the fast lane? Maybe that's whats pissing people off...i know it gets under my skin On 9/27/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a word for your new method of driving -- maturity (sometimes called getting older). On 9/27/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The mindset of most of the driving public baffles me. I've been commuting with my 240D manual for 2 1/2 years now 80 miles a day largely highway. Lately in an effort to save fuel I've been cruising at around 65mph and trying to ease up to that speed. Whats really crazy are the people who will honk the horn and flip me off and then fight their way over into the passing lane. Quite often when I get off the highway I'm right behind a guy who 20 minutes earlier was totally pissed that I was holding him up. Whoa he sure saved some time there. -Curt -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 27 18:40:47 2005 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.206]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EKKNj-00085a-5d for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:40:47 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id p8so585812nzb for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:40:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rOFl+bQ4i8qnxaUaFNoA42xLALbYE5Gkz3E1COEAkto5Nr03XqC5TNhNapYBLrbDeIT1GjPZbDoJ5mMlHBJbjjEeSaT4WASp7nFBQ24G2LiaSNKm3mV+o8ZhucQoGNzvnv9SwGvgUf1V5dXBPBCjBOKzXHcP4ZmJWApzkmbwJeo= Received: by 10.54.103.4 with SMTP id a4mr1442039wrc; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.146.8 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:40:40 -0500 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] MPG (was: Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:40:47 - I realize I am working with a very small data set, but I seemed
Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!
the rear end has a higher gear ratio on the 115 than it does on the 123... thats probably a good part of it isildur On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, B Dike wrote: Gentlemen, An auto 240D is not necessarily slow. Our 75 (W115) isn't head-snapping fast, but is easily quick enough to maneuver and stay ahead of traffic. It has a great crisp motor and tranny. It seems to be geared low, not sure, but it definitely feels nimble and responsive. On the other hand, the 77 240D (W123, manual) was abysmally slow when I got it last year. It is steadily improving with M1 and hard driving but has a long way to go to catch up with the W115. I think it is heavier than the W123, at least it feels that way. I drove another W123 240D the other day and it was a slug, although the owner crowed about its strong motor. But I know of at least one 240D that isn't slow. Bruce --- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad you came out alive Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:09 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! Yes, I know, old news to most of you. But I'd never driven one for any significant length of time until my indy lent me one for two days while working on my 124. Now I know what drive it like you stole it REALLY means! It maintained cruising speed just fine on the flat, but it's pretty disconcerting to floor the loud pedal at any speed over 50 or so and have basically nothing to speak of happen unless you have a few minutes to wait. I'm impressed with the gumption of people who drive these on a regular basis, especially if it's in a place with high-speed cutthroat freeway traffic. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 333kmi 'His' 85 300CD 234kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 185kmi 'Theirs' (Back in Commission) 77 240D 199kmi 'The Brown Car' __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!
Curt Raymond wrote: I'm in the right lane, pedal to the floor speeding up as fast as I can. The next 2 lanes over are generally busy so whomever was behind me is staying behind me to the top of the hill which is only about 1/4 - 1/2 mile. So at least once a week I'll get some jackass who absolutely can't wait. They always act the same. They'll start weaving back and forth in the lane, then they'll pull right up onto my back bumper, then they'll back off and lay on the horn. I always give them a friendly wave at that point. I used to have a bumper sticker on my diesel Vanagon that said, 48 HORSEPOWER - PLEASE, JUST PASS. I figured people were less likely to get angry if I could get them laughing first. I don't get angry at slow drivers, except for the ones who get panicky and hit the brakes on entrance ramps, when they should be speeding up. If they want to commit suicide that's fine, but they shouldn't get me involved. ;)
[MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!
Yes, I know, old news to most of you. But I'd never driven one for any significant length of time until my indy lent me one for two days while working on my 124. Now I know what drive it like you stole it REALLY means! It maintained cruising speed just fine on the flat, but it's pretty disconcerting to floor the loud pedal at any speed over 50 or so and have basically nothing to speak of happen unless you have a few minutes to wait. I'm impressed with the gumption of people who drive these on a regular basis, especially if it's in a place with high-speed cutthroat freeway traffic. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D
Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!
Reminds me of an article I read in the Indy Star a couple of years ago when the first of the new Beetle Convertibles came out. I don't remember it verbatim, but the general idea was this: When you press the pedal to the floor, in true German efficiency, the engine files a request in triplicate to the transmission which is then read, lost, considered, found, lost again then finally denied. On 9/26/05, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know, old news to most of you. But I'd never driven one for any significant length of time until my indy lent me one for two days while working on my 124. Now I know what drive it like you stole it REALLY means! It maintained cruising speed just fine on the flat, but it's pretty disconcerting to floor the loud pedal at any speed over 50 or so and have basically nothing to speak of happen unless you have a few minutes to wait. I'm impressed with the gumption of people who drive these on a regular basis, especially if it's in a place with high-speed cutthroat freeway traffic. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!
I owned a 240D for a while myself and I know *exactly* what you mean. It gets tiring having to clean all the splattered bugs off the BACK window glass, but at least the windshield remains clean. Of course, now I think my 87 300D needs to be faster, after having spent too much time in the Q-ship... gotta get that intercooler installed, Casey-style... :-) Best regards, Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 259kmi (Sportline) -- From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! Reminds me of an article I read in the Indy Star a couple of years ago when the first of the new Beetle Convertibles came out. I don't remember it verbatim, but the general idea was this: When you press the pedal to the floor, in true German efficiency, the engine files a request in triplicate to the transmission which is then read, lost, considered, found, lost again then finally denied. -- Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 23:09:02 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! Yes, I know, old news to most of you. But I'd never driven one for any significant length of time until my indy lent me one for two days while working on my 124. Now I know what drive it like you stole it REALLY means! It maintained cruising speed just fine on the flat, but it's pretty disconcerting to floor the loud pedal at any speed over 50 or so and have basically nothing to speak of happen unless you have a few minutes to wait. I'm impressed with the gumption of people who drive these on a regular basis, especially if it's in a place with high-speed cutthroat freeway traffic. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D
