Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage
> > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:45:43 -0600 > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > with a 350 12, with a 454, 6-8 > Ouch- we have a 26' box truck with a 454, and that thing will do 6-7 MPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage
A 454 is like holding a 5 gallon can over the engine, and drill a 5/16 hole in the bottom. in short, they s uck. and they are gutless. My favorite story is in 1979, we had just put a 392 (IH) 4 barrel in the old IH 1500. It had well over 300,000 miles on it at the time. We were overloaded, way overloaded, going uphill, closing fast on a chevy pickup pulling an empty stock trailer. He got in the creeper lane, and as we passed, i could see the 454 on the side of the truck, and it sounded like it was grunting to uphill empty. I nailed the 392, opened up the back two barrels and the truck stood up on the ringgear and we accelerated uphill and left the gas sucking 454 in the dust. Those who have ridden an Earles fork BMW will understand "standing up on the ring gear." I loved that effect! And we probably went twice as far on a gallon of gas! The load was at least 5 tons. At 06:30 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:45:43 -0600 > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > with a 350 12, with a 454, 6-8 > Ouch- we have a 26' box truck with a 454, and that thing will do 6-7 MPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage
Pure speculation here. I think that anyone who says a tinkernational 392 has more pulling power than a good 454 hasn't ever driven a 454. And mileage? A 454 truck will average 6-7 pulling or not. I know folks with tinkenationals.travelalls and scouts...none of them get better than 8-9 empty. Mike -Original Message- Date: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:12:13 am To: Mercedes Discussion List From: Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage A 454 is like holding a 5 gallon can over the engine, and drill a 5/16 hole in the bottom. in short, they s uck. and they are gutless. My favorite story is in 1979, we had just put a 392 (IH) 4 barrel in the old IH 1500. It had well over 300,000 miles on it at the time. We were overloaded, way overloaded, going uphill, closing fast on a chevy pickup pulling an empty stock trailer. He got in the creeper lane, and as we passed, i could see the 454 on the side of the truck, and it sounded like it was grunting to uphill empty. I nailed the 392, opened up the back two barrels and the truck stood up on the ringgear and we accelerated uphill and left the gas sucking 454 in the dust. Those who have ridden an Earles fork BMW will understand "standing up on the ring gear." I loved that effect! And we probably went twice as far on a gallon of gas! The load was at least 5 tons. At 06:30 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: > > > > Message: 10 > > Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:45:43 -0600 > > F ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pure speculation here. I think that anyone who says a tinkernational 392 has more pulling power than a good 454 He didn't say 'good 454'. He was talking about a 454 seen in 1979, probably stock, and probably made in the last half of the 1970's. Do you remember how crappy most cars ran from around 1975 to the age of fuel injection? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage
not so We got 10-13 for years and years in 1500s with 304 to 392. the 266 v-8 on a 1500 got 12-13. Pickups get better mileage. I drove one pickup that got 17 if you were careful with the throttle. The 3/4 ton 73 with an 9' van body also got 12-13 for years and years. This over 30years and hundreds of thousands of miles, not a one tank average. They do have to be tuned right. No different than a OM 616/617 At 07:00 AM 11/6/2008, you wrote: Pure speculation here. I think that anyone who says a tinkernational 392 has more pulling power than a good 454 hasn't ever driven a 454. And mileage? A 454 truck will average 6-7 pulling or not. I know folks with tinkenationals.travelalls and scouts...none of them get better than 8-9 empty. Mike -Original Message- Date: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:12:13 am To: Mercedes Discussion List From: Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage A 454 is like holding a 5 gallon can over the engine, and drill a 5/16 hole in the bottom. in short, they s uck. and they are gutless. My favorite story is in 1979, we had just put a 392 (IH) 4 barrel in the old IH 1500. It had well over 300,000 miles on it at the time. We were overloaded, way overloaded, going uphill, closing fast on a chevy pickup pulling an empty stock trailer. He got in the creeper lane, and as we passed, i could see the 454 on the side of the truck, and it sounded like it was grunting to uphill empty. I nailed the 392, opened up the back two barrels and the truck stood up on the ringgear and we accelerated uphill and left the gas sucking 454 in the dust. Those who have ridden an Earles fork BMW will understand "standing up on the ring gear." I loved that effect! And we probably went twice as far on a gallon of gas! The load was at least 5 tons. At 06:30 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: > > > > Message: 10 > > Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:45:43 -0600 > > F ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage
they suck gas, but gutless they are not. Loren Faeth wrote: A 454 is like holding a 5 gallon can over the engine, and drill a 5/16 hole in the bottom. in short, they s uck. and they are gutless. My favorite story is in 1979, we had just put a 392 (IH) 4 barrel in the old IH 1500. It had well over 300,000 miles on it at the time. We were overloaded, way overloaded, going uphill, closing fast on a chevy pickup pulling an empty stock trailer. He got in the creeper lane, and as we passed, i could see the 454 on the side of the truck, and it sounded like it was grunting to uphill empty. I nailed the 392, opened up the back two barrels and the truck stood up on the ringgear and we accelerated uphill and left the gas sucking 454 in the dust. Those who have ridden an Earles fork BMW will understand "standing up on the ring gear." I loved that effect! And we probably went twice as far on a gallon of gas! The load was at least 5 tons. At 06:30 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:45:43 -0600 > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > with a 350 12, with a 454, 6-8 > Ouch- we have a 26' box truck with a 454, and that thing will do 6-7 MPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 7:58 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage
I think thats just older 454s. My friend's '89 had plenty of power, we hauled around some pretty big farm tractors with it and it never even grunted... -Curt Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:12:13 -0600 From: Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed A 454 is like holding a 5 gallon can over the engine, and drill a 5/16 hole in the bottom. in short, they s uck. and they are gutless. My favorite story is in 1979, we had just put a 392 (IH) 4 barrel in the old IH 1500. It had well over 300,000 miles on it at the time. We were overloaded, way overloaded, going uphill, closing fast on a chevy pickup pulling an empty stock trailer. He got in the creeper lane, and as we passed, i could see the 454 on the side of the truck, and it sounded like it was grunting to uphill empty. I nailed the 392, opened up the back two barrels and the truck stood up on the ringgear and we accelerated uphill and left the gas sucking 454 in the dust. Those who have ridden an Earles fork BMW will understand "standing up on the ring gear." I loved that effect! And we probably went twice as far on a gallon of gas! The load was at least 5 tons. At 06:30 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: > > > > Message: 10 > > Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:45:43 -0600 > > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > with a 350 12, with a 454, 6-8 > > > >Ouch- we have a 26' box truck with a 454, and that thing will do 6-7 MPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage
QUite right. I was talking about a probably 75 454. I am sure they get a little better mileage now, but back then nobody but an arab prince could afford to feed them. At 07:59 AM 11/6/2008, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pure speculation here. I think that anyone who says a tinkernational 392 has more pulling power than a good 454 He didn't say 'good 454'. He was talking about a 454 seen in 1979, probably stock, and probably made in the last half of the 1970's. Do you remember how crappy most cars ran from around 1975 to the age of fuel injection? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage
i remember those days. Had a Chevy Blazer with the 400 small block and full time 4 wheel drive. Breaking double digit MPGs was cause for celebration. Made a great "pull the boat to the lake" vehicle with the top removed, though. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage
Gary Thompson wrote: i remember those days. Had a Chevy Blazer with the 400 small block and full time 4 wheel drive. Breaking double digit MPGs was cause for celebration. I was in high school in the late 70'a/early 80's. Vehicles available to me included a '77 Nova, 250, 3sp, 22 mpg hwy (Dad bought this because of the stellar fuel economy, gas was over 60 cents a gallon by then. It replaced a '70 Kingswood with 400 small block), '73 F100, 360 2bbl/automatic, 12-14mpg, '67 Jeepster Commando, 231 3sp, 4.27 axles, not much better than the pickup, and a '76 CB200T (the only one I actually owned) 78 mpg. I clearly remember the summer that the pumps couldn't calculate prices over $1 per gallon so they set them for half price and then charged you double the pump reading. I believe it was 1981, I thought it was terrible that I had to pay $2-3 to fill my bike, and filling the Jeep was a major investment. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax/ 454 milage
Loren Faeth wrote: QUite right. I was talking about a probably 75 454. I am sure they get a little better mileage now, but back then nobody but an arab prince could afford to feed them. And we thought it was a tragedy when gas topped 50 cents a gallon. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
