Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter
You are correct that I was referring to the AR-15. Those are indeed available in many other calibers than 5.56 (similar to .223 Remington). Some in the 6.5-7.62mm range might be suitable for Boar. The AR-15 is actually a scaled-down version of the earlier AR-10; which fires the 7.62 NATO cartridge (similar to .308 Winchester). This is a very suitable round for hunting large Boar. I'm not going to take a position pro or con on the hunting ethics of the following: Many believe that since the feral hogs are considered vermin rather than game animals they are not as deserving of a humane one-shot kill as is a majestic Whitetail or Mule Deer buck. They are often encountered on the run and in groups, so shooters are trying to take as many as possible with rapid follow-up shots. Thus the incentive for the use of an AR-type rifle over a more conventional field weapon. BTW, moose are not that tough to bring down despite their size. My cousin has taken many moose with a .270 Win. Elk and certainly Bison merit more potent arms. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:30 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter The one the antis really want to ban is the AR-15 which is a .223, not much of a wild boar gun I think. For a dangerous game like that I'd prefer dad's .50-70 Sharps, sure I don't get a quick second shot but I'm enough of a marksman I'm almost certainly going to hit what I shoot at and with a 300 grain projectile that which has been shot isn't going to do much running around afterward. When I shot the moose in '99 I used a .348 Winchester. Not because a moose is dangerous particularly (although I wouldn't want to make one mad) but because I didn't want it going anywhere after it was shot. It didn't either, didn't take one step. Dad shot his in 2009 with a .577 Snider, hit it in the ear. That moose didn't know what hit her, the ultimate humane kill. -Curt Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:35:52 -0800 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter Message-ID: 005e01ce0ee9$17d818d0$47884a70$@net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii I understand the little ones up to about 100# are good eating. They can get pretty big! The preferred hunting weapons are the ones we are being told are not useful for hunting (semi-autos with large ammo magazines). The large boars need rifles with a large bore. They tend to armor themselves with tree resin, creating a hard shell that is difficult to penetrate. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I say dynamite. Should be enough from the herd to pick through for some Q, or some ready-made sausage. --R (Fast, efficient, and courteous) On 2/20/13 4:27 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: You are correct that I was referring to the AR-15. Those are indeed available in many other calibers than 5.56 (similar to .223 Remington). Some in the 6.5-7.62mm range might be suitable for Boar. The AR-15 is actually a scaled-down version of the earlier AR-10; which fires the 7.62 NATO cartridge (similar to .308 Winchester). This is a very suitable round for hunting large Boar. I'm not going to take a position pro or con on the hunting ethics of the following: Many believe that since the feral hogs are considered vermin rather than game animals they are not as deserving of a humane one-shot kill as is a majestic Whitetail or Mule Deer buck. They are often encountered on the run and in groups, so shooters are trying to take as many as possible with rapid follow-up shots. Thus the incentive for the use of an AR-type rifle over a more conventional field weapon. BTW, moose are not that tough to bring down despite their size. My cousin has taken many moose with a .270 Win. Elk and certainly Bison merit more potent arms. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:30 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter The one the antis really want to ban is the AR-15 which is a .223, not much of a wild boar gun I think. For a dangerous game like that I'd prefer dad's .50-70 Sharps, sure I don't get a quick second shot but I'm enough of a marksman I'm almost certainly going to hit what I shoot at and with a 300 grain projectile that which has been shot isn't going to do much running around afterward. When I shot the moose in '99 I used a .348 Winchester. Not because a moose is dangerous particularly (although I wouldn't want to make one mad) but because I didn't want it going anywhere after it was shot. It didn't either, didn't take one step. Dad shot his in 2009 with a .577 Snider, hit it in the ear. That moose didn't know what hit her, the ultimate humane kill. -Curt Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:35:52 -0800 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter Message-ID: 005e01ce0ee9$17d818d0$47884a70$@net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii I understand the little ones up to about 100# are good eating. They can get pretty big! The preferred hunting weapons are the ones we are being told are not useful for hunting (semi-autos with large ammo magazines). The large boars need rifles with a large bore. They tend to armor themselves with tree resin, creating a hard shell that is difficult to penetrate. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No, no! Dynamite should only be used for fishing! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter I say dynamite. Should be enough from the herd to pick through for some Q, or some ready-made sausage. --R (Fast, efficient, and courteous) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter
Greg Fiorentino wrote: BTW, moose are not that tough to bring down despite their size. My cousin has taken many moose with a .270 Win. Elk and certainly Bison merit more potent arms. Nothing wrong with shooting Elk, hogs, or Black Bear with .270 win or the basically equivalent .280 Rem. I'd probably want something a bit stouter to shoot a griz or a bison. When the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation had a run of commemorative rifles made in 1995, they were in .280 Remington with 26 barrels. http://www.gunsamerica.com/936107347/H_R_Rocky_Mountain_Elk_Foundation_280.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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C'mon now! You give us the scientific name, but not the species! Was it a Whitetail, Mule Deer, Coues, Columbian Blacktail or what? You say 3 pointer, was that eastern or western count? Sorry about the damage to the 123 :-(. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:49 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter I had to look it up. It's the scientific name for family commonly known as deer. My wagon encountered one crossing the road the other evening. 3 point buck. The good parts are now in the freezer. But the car is still waiting for attention. There is a very slight dimple in the drivers door. The hood is rumpled, the portside fender crushed, and the portside headlight area smashed. It appears the subframe where the suspension mounts is undamaged. The grill is okay! The SLS tank and oil cooler are damaged. I have parts cars - but I have not dealt with sheet metal work this deep on a W123. Is the radiator support a replaceable part? Or is it part of the subframe? Is welding on the subframe okay? The car runs - I drove it onto the trailer for the trip home. But the engine is tired, so I'm trying to determine if I should rebuild or retire it. (retire, meaning remove from active service, not buy new tires) --Philip, too busy right now to do more than plan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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3 point buck. The good parts are now in the freezer. The grill is okay! It's good that the grill is okay. Venison in the freezer is good, but venison on the grill is great! Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Has anyone tated wild boar? They are running around hog wild (pun intended) all over the place but I haven't seen any recipes yet. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: 3 point buck. The good parts are now in the freezer. The grill is okay! It's good that the grill is okay. Venison in the freezer is good, but venison on the grill is great! Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, I'd bet some with tater is really good. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter Has anyone tated wild boar? They are running around hog wild (pun intended) all over the place but I haven't seen any recipes yet. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: 3 point buck. The good parts are now in the freezer. The grill is okay! It's good that the grill is okay. Venison in the freezer is good, but venison on the grill is great! Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Has anyone tated wild boar? They are running around hog wild (pun intended) all over the place but I haven't seen any recipes yet. I think you'd just have the whole thing smoked, wouldn't you? Apparently feral hogs are Michigan's newest game animal, but I'd have no idea where to find one. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We have loads of them as well, and I guess they are tearing up a lot of people's yards or plantings. I had to arrange to get a key to our private park a few weeks ago for a trapper. Apparently he goes out between 1:00 am and 4:00 am with specially trained dogs to catch them. No charge - he keeps what he traps, I guess. Dan On Feb 19, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tated wild boar? They are running around hog wild (pun intended) all over the place but I haven't seen any recipes yet. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: 3 point buck. The good parts are now in the freezer. The grill is okay! It's good that the grill is okay. Venison in the freezer is good, but venison on the grill is great! Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's basically pig (but better I am told) so 8-10 hours on a smoker would do one fine. I hear sausage is particularly tasty as well. --R On 2/19/13 2:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Has anyone tated wild boar? They are running around hog wild (pun intended) all over the place but I haven't seen any recipes yet. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: 3 point buck. The good parts are now in the freezer. The grill is okay! It's good that the grill is okay. Venison in the freezer is good, but venison on the grill is great! Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Cousin made the best sausage out of wild boar that I've ever eaten. He's long gone as is his recipe, however. Gerry From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Has anyone tated wild boar? They are running around hog wild (pun intended) all over the place but I haven't seen any recipes yet. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: 3 point buck. The good parts are now in the freezer. The grill is okay! It's good that the grill is okay. Venison in the freezer is good, but venison on the grill is great! Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2639/5616 - Release Date: 02/19/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Side of Tricinosis anyone. Well done is the only way. Definitely non-kosher or halal either. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter Yeah, I'd bet some with tater is really good. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter Has anyone tated wild boar? They are running around hog wild (pun intended) all over the place but I haven't seen any recipes yet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I ate wild boar sukiyaki prepared by Japanese mining company workers when I was in Fiji. Tasted great with the local Fiji Bitter... On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Side of Tricinosis anyone. Well done is the only way. Definitely non-kosher or halal either. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter Yeah, I'd bet some with tater is really good. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter Has anyone tated wild boar? They are running around hog wild (pun intended) all over the place but I haven't seen any recipes yet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I understand the little ones up to about 100# are good eating. They can get pretty big! The preferred hunting weapons are the ones we are being told are not useful for hunting (semi-autos with large ammo magazines). The large boars need rifles with a large bore. They tend to armor themselves with tree resin, creating a hard shell that is difficult to penetrate. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter Has anyone tated wild boar? They are running around hog wild (pun intended) all over the place but I haven't seen any recipes yet. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: 3 point buck. The good parts are now in the freezer. The grill is okay! It's good that the grill is okay. Venison in the freezer is good, but venison on the grill is great! Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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When I lived in Houston they were all over the burbs, my BIL had his yard torn up by a herd of them, they would swim across the bayou from some woods, into the subdivision, and have at it every night. He was going to pop a few of them but the neighbors got all noodgy about it (he is an experienced hunter/shooter) so they let the things tear up the whole place. They finally moved on, or he had a dog or something. There was a picture in the paper at one time of a little girl 10 or 12 yo who shot a HUGE boar, the thing was stretched out and it went from one side of the dirt road to the other, I think it weighed something like 700lb if my recollection recollects. Anyway, the thing was a monster she shot it right there in the road as they were getting ready to leave. She was one very proud little girl. My neighbor hunted them and shot a couple he butchered and saved some of the meat, gave away the rest. I never had any but he said it was very good as they mostly ate acorns and such out in the woods. --R On 2/19/13 4:35 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: I understand the little ones up to about 100# are good eating. They can get pretty big! The preferred hunting weapons are the ones we are being told are not useful for hunting (semi-autos with large ammo magazines). The large boars need rifles with a large bore. They tend to armor themselves with tree resin, creating a hard shell that is difficult to penetrate. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter Has anyone tated wild boar? They are running around hog wild (pun intended) all over the place but I haven't seen any recipes yet. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: 3 point buck. The good parts are now in the freezer. The grill is okay! It's good that the grill is okay. Venison in the freezer is good, but venison on the grill is great! Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The trapper that is working our area uses two dogs. As he described it to me, one dog locates the wild boar(s) and then calls, at which time the other dog comes running and will grab the boar by the ears or neck and restrain it until he arrives. He trusses them up and tosses them in a cage in his truck. I assume he either releases them elsewhere or kills/butchers them at a later time, he didn't say. No charge for the trapping, so I have to believe that he has a source of revenue from them somehow, by either releasing them somewhere that they can be hunted or by processing them for the meat. Our properties are very close to a river that has a heavily wooded buffer zone around it that apparently attracts all sorts of wildlife. We have seen deer, foxes, possum, pea hens, etc. at one time or another in our back yard and the woods that it adjoins. On Feb 19, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: When I lived in Houston they were all over the burbs, my BIL had his yard torn up by a herd of them, they would swim across the bayou from some woods, into the subdivision, and have at it every night. He was going to pop a few of them but the neighbors got all noodgy about it (he is an experienced hunter/shooter) so they let the things tear up the whole place. They finally moved on, or he had a dog or something. There was a picture in the paper at one time of a little girl 10 or 12 yo who shot a HUGE boar, the thing was stretched out and it went from one side of the dirt road to the other, I think it weighed something like 700lb if my recollection recollects. Anyway, the thing was a monster she shot it right there in the road as they were getting ready to leave. She was one very proud little girl. My neighbor hunted them and shot a couple he butchered and saved some of the meat, gave away the rest. I never had any but he said it was very good as they mostly ate acorns and such out in the woods. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That'll buff out. Dan On Feb 19, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Fmiser wrote: Greg Fiorentino wrote: C'mon now! You give us the scientific name, but not the species! Was it a Whitetail, Mule Deer, Coues, Columbian Blacktail or what? Odocoileus virginianus You say 3 pointer, was that eastern or western count? Errr. Southern count? I didn't know there was a difference. It was a 3x4 (western) or 7 (eastern). A photo is attached to answer further. Sorry about the damage to the 123 :-(. The car did it's job. Our trip was inconvenienced - but we were not injured at all. But now I have to decide what to do with it. For now - park it. -- Philip hood-and-antlers.jpg___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I ate wild boar sukiyaki prepared by Japanese mining company workers when I was in Fiji. Tasted great with the local Fiji Bitter... How'd you get a gig like that? Why'd you come back? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Fmiser wrote: The car did it's job. Our trip was inconvenienced - but we were not injured at all. But now I have to decide what to do with it. For now - park it. Altimax tires? You like them? I was amazed with the Oldsmobile's performance in heavy rain when the Altimax HPs on it were quite new, I was overdriving my visibility in a driving rain with no hint of hydroplaning. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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its pork. recipes are the the same as any pork. Bacon, brats, ham, Boston butt roast (shoulder) tenderloins, poke chops, ribs, ham hocks, pickled pig's feet and sausage from anything you don't want. My uncle and cousins used to hunt them on Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa. Used a Springfield 03 3006 or a 308 Kalua pig: Stuff the pig with citrus and any other available fruit. Wrap em in banana leaves and ti leaves. Put it in the imu. Party for hours or a day. Uncover the imu. Pull out the pig. bring out all the fixins. Let the luau begin. Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Has anyone tated wild boar? They are running around hog wild (pun intended) all over the place but I haven't seen any recipes yet. I think you'd just have the whole thing smoked, wouldn't you? Apparently feral hogs are Michigan's newest game animal, but I'd have no idea where to find one. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If I had them in the backyard I'd take up archery in a BIG way. Sit inside the darkened house with an open window and a few discrete lights outside. -Curt Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:41:46 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter Message-ID: 5123ffaa.5030...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed When I lived in Houston they were all over the burbs, my BIL had his yard torn up by a herd of them, they would swim across the bayou from some woods, into the subdivision, and have at it every night. He was going to pop a few of them but the neighbors got all noodgy about it (he is an experienced hunter/shooter) so they let the things tear up the whole place. They finally moved on, or he had a dog or something. There was a picture in the paper at one time of a little girl 10 or 12 yo who shot a HUGE boar, the thing was stretched out and it went from one side of the dirt road to the other, I think it weighed something like 700lb if my recollection recollects. Anyway, the thing was a monster she shot it right there in the road as they were getting ready to leave. She was one very proud little girl. My neighbor hunted them and shot a couple he butchered and saved some of the meat, gave away the rest. I never had any but he said it was very good as they mostly ate acorns and such out in the woods. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Uhm, a mature boar is like a mature billy goat -- you won't mistake the meat for anything else. Commercial hogs are castrated, for good reason. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The one the antis really want to ban is the AR-15 which is a .223, not much of a wild boar gun I think. For a dangerous game like that I'd prefer dad's .50-70 Sharps, sure I don't get a quick second shot but I'm enough of a marksman I'm almost certainly going to hit what I shoot at and with a 300 grain projectile that which has been shot isn't going to do much running around afterward. When I shot the moose in '99 I used a .348 Winchester. Not because a moose is dangerous particularly (although I wouldn't want to make one mad) but because I didn't want it going anywhere after it was shot. It didn't either, didn't take one step. Dad shot his in 2009 with a .577 Snider, hit it in the ear. That moose didn't know what hit her, the ultimate humane kill. -Curt Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:35:52 -0800 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cervidae encounter Message-ID: 005e01ce0ee9$17d818d0$47884a70$@net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii I understand the little ones up to about 100# are good eating. They can get pretty big! The preferred hunting weapons are the ones we are being told are not useful for hunting (semi-autos with large ammo magazines). The large boars need rifles with a large bore. They tend to armor themselves with tree resin, creating a hard shell that is difficult to penetrate. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cervidae encounter
I had to look it up. It's the scientific name for family commonly known as deer. My wagon encountered one crossing the road the other evening. 3 point buck. The good parts are now in the freezer. But the car is still waiting for attention. There is a very slight dimple in the drivers door. The hood is rumpled, the portside fender crushed, and the portside headlight area smashed. It appears the subframe where the suspension mounts is undamaged. The grill is okay! The SLS tank and oil cooler are damaged. I have parts cars - but I have not dealt with sheet metal work this deep on a W123. Is the radiator support a replaceable part? Or is it part of the subframe? Is welding on the subframe okay? The car runs - I drove it onto the trailer for the trip home. But the engine is tired, so I'm trying to determine if I should rebuild or retire it. (retire, meaning remove from active service, not buy new tires) --Philip, too busy right now to do more than plan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
