[MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well I finally got the chinese SDS system working.  I ended up 
having to run it from a IBM x40 that has a docking station with a 
real serial port.  With the other computers I was trying it I was 
using the PCI card serial port thing they sent, I guess that was 
the problem.  It connected to the car with no problem after that 
and I was able to clear the tranny codes after replacing the 
conductor plate.  Drove the car to town, drives GREAT.  Man its a 
great running machine.  I think Im going to take it to Maine 
thursday.  We driving about 3600 miles round trip on vacation to 
Maine and was going to take the 99 E320, but really wanted to take 
this.  Will drive it all week up till time to leave to make sure 
no other problems pop up.  Maybe I am brave to take a car that I 
will have only drove personally for a few days.


The only other remaining problem I have is the vacuum pump is dead 
(the electric one under the back seat).  I already knew about this 
as the locks do not work.  Also, the ACC is in default defrost 
mode.  After much research I discovered that the electric pump 
under the seat also controls the ACC.  I did have one of the small 
wires broke off at one of the connectors, so I took the connector 
apart and I think I might have it reattached.  Pulled the pump out 
and took it apart and it looks like parts of the board are burned. 
 Guess I need a new one.  Anyone revived one of these things?  I 
think in the 210 they are a special deal, not like the old cars. 
They have to be programmed with the SDS system if I am not 
mistaken.  I would pull the one out of the wrecked 99 E430 but its 
got a different part number and I doubt it would work.  I attached 
some photos of the pump board

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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL,
 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2,
 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D
http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300

[Jim Cathey]

The only other remaining problem I have is the vacuum pump is 
dead...it looks like parts of the board are burned.  Guess I need a 
new one.


Most likely, that one looks _bad_.  Looks to me like it got wet,
witness all the corrosion around the outside edges.  That's probably
what actually killed it, tricked it into shorting out its own power
which cooked the diodes and the board in that area.

Looks like only a couple dollars' worth of parts, if you were
electronically handy, to try to resurrect it.  (The irreplaceable
surface mount stuff looked fairly decent.)  Assuming you can
tell what all the components are, how they are oriented, and
where the burned traces all went.  (2-sided board only?  Better
hope so!)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Tell us more about the Chinese SDS... where did you get it?  Is it hacked MB
stuff, or something totally different?

Jaime


On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> Well I finally got the chinese SDS system working.  I ended up having to
> run it from a IBM x40 that has a docking station with a real serial port.
>  With the other computers I was trying it I was using the PCI card serial
> port thing they sent, I guess that was the problem.  It connected to the car
> with no problem after that and I was able to clear the tranny codes after
> replacing the conductor plate.  Drove the car to town, drives GREAT.  Man
> its a great running machine.  I think Im going to take it to Maine thursday.
>  We driving about 3600 miles round trip on vacation to Maine and was going
> to take the 99 E320, but really wanted to take this.  Will drive it all week
> up till time to leave to make sure no other problems pop up.  Maybe I am
> brave to take a car that I will have only drove personally for a few days.
>
> The only other remaining problem I have is the vacuum pump is dead (the
> electric one under the back seat).  I already knew about this as the locks
> do not work.  Also, the ACC is in default defrost mode.  After much research
> I discovered that the electric pump under the seat also controls the ACC.  I
> did have one of the small wires broke off at one of the connectors, so I
> took the connector apart and I think I might have it reattached.  Pulled the
> pump out and took it apart and it looks like parts of the board are burned.
>  Guess I need a new one.  Anyone revived one of these things?  I think in
> the 210 they are a special deal, not like the old cars. They have to be
> programmed with the SDS system if I am not mistaken.  I would pull the one
> out of the wrecked 99 E430 but its got a different part number and I doubt
> it would work.  I attached some photos of the pump board
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>  99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL,
>  92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2,
>  85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D
> http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I bought a hood used one on eBay. Now locks and acc work

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>> The only other remaining problem I have is the vacuum pump is dead...it 
>> looks like parts of the board are burned.  Guess I need a new one.
> 
> Most likely, that one looks _bad_.  Looks to me like it got wet,
> witness all the corrosion around the outside edges.  That's probably
> what actually killed it, tricked it into shorting out its own power
> which cooked the diodes and the board in that area.
> 
> Looks like only a couple dollars' worth of parts, if you were
> electronically handy, to try to resurrect it.  (The irreplaceable
> surface mount stuff looked fairly decent.)  Assuming you can
> tell what all the components are, how they are oriented, and
> where the burned traces all went.  (2-sided board only?  Better
> hope so!)
> 
> -- Jim
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I got it from vidaobd2.com. it's a clone of the mb deal

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

> Tell us more about the Chinese SDS... where did you get it?  Is it hacked MB
> stuff, or something totally different?
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> 
>> Well I finally got the chinese SDS system working.  I ended up having to
>> run it from a IBM x40 that has a docking station with a real serial port.
>> With the other computers I was trying it I was using the PCI card serial
>> port thing they sent, I guess that was the problem.  It connected to the car
>> with no problem after that and I was able to clear the tranny codes after
>> replacing the conductor plate.  Drove the car to town, drives GREAT.  Man
>> its a great running machine.  I think Im going to take it to Maine thursday.
>> We driving about 3600 miles round trip on vacation to Maine and was going
>> to take the 99 E320, but really wanted to take this.  Will drive it all week
>> up till time to leave to make sure no other problems pop up.  Maybe I am
>> brave to take a car that I will have only drove personally for a few days.
>> 
>> The only other remaining problem I have is the vacuum pump is dead (the
>> electric one under the back seat).  I already knew about this as the locks
>> do not work.  Also, the ACC is in default defrost mode.  After much research
>> I discovered that the electric pump under the seat also controls the ACC.  I
>> did have one of the small wires broke off at one of the connectors, so I
>> took the connector apart and I think I might have it reattached.  Pulled the
>> pump out and took it apart and it looks like parts of the board are burned.
>> Guess I need a new one.  Anyone revived one of these things?  I think in
>> the 210 they are a special deal, not like the old cars. They have to be
>> programmed with the SDS system if I am not mistaken.  I would pull the one
>> out of the wrecked 99 E430 but its got a different part number and I doubt
>> it would work.  I attached some photos of the pump board
>> --
>> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>> 99 E430, 99 E320. 97 E300, 95 E300, 93 300D, 92 500SEL,
>> 92 300SD, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 90 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2,
>> 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300

[Greg Fiorentino]

<< The irreplaceable surface mount stuff looked fairly decent...>>

Actually surface mount stuff is not too difficult to replace.  I have
repaired a ThinkPad laptop motherboard by replacing a surface mount inductor
with my crappy $10 RatShack soldering iron.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300

> The only other remaining problem I have is the vacuum pump is 
> dead...it looks like parts of the board are burned.  Guess I need a 
> new one.

Most likely, that one looks _bad_.  Looks to me like it got wet,
witness all the corrosion around the outside edges.  That's probably
what actually killed it, tricked it into shorting out its own power
which cooked the diodes and the board in that area.

Looks like only a couple dollars' worth of parts, if you were
electronically handy, to try to resurrect it.  (The irreplaceable
surface mount stuff looked fairly decent.)  Assuming you can
tell what all the components are, how they are oriented, and
where the burned traces all went.  (2-sided board only?  Better
hope so!)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300

[Jim Cathey]

The irreplaceable surface mount stuff looked fairly decent...

Actually surface mount stuff is not too difficult to replace.


Do you know what all the parts are?  Can you actually _get_ 
replacements?


Irreplaceable.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300

[Peter Frederick]

Surface mount components aren't all that hard to replace if you have  
a hot air soldering station, but one must have the correct  
components, and these days that's very unlikely --  everything is a  
custom part and once the design run is finished, they stop making them.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
>>> The irreplaceable surface mount stuff looked fairly decent...
>>
>> Actually surface mount stuff is not too difficult to replace.
>
> Do you know what all the parts are?  Can you actually _get_ replacements?
>
> Irreplaceable.

Maybe down the road that problem will be solved by some technology
that has yet to filter down to the hobbyist level?

Not many people in the mid-'80s could have predicted that twenty-five
years later analog electromechanical systems could be emulated by
microcontrollers costing pocket change. (I'm thinking of stuff like
the Unwired Tools replacement for the Chrysler ACC.)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300

[Greg Fiorentino]

As I had said, I was able to do so with just a cheap, low wattage soldering
iron.  This obviously entails either knowing what the component is and being
able to source it, or having a spare junk source for parts (as I did in the
ThinkPad motherboard case).

Greg

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On Behalf Of Peter Frederick
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 6:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chinese SDS and the 97 E300

Surface mount components aren't all that hard to replace if you have  
a hot air soldering station, but one must have the correct  
components, and these days that's very unlikely --  everything is a  
custom part and once the design run is finished, they stop making them.

Peter

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