Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?
Hendrik - its fairly certain that aluminum can't survive in cylinders without cooling jets of oil. But the work on ceramic cylinder parts, including pistons may provide some solution. Wonder what they will do for rings that can stand really high temperatures? More ceramics?? Werner - Original Message - From: "Hendrik Riessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced? Advanced metals should be able to dissapate heat better than old type metals. Saw a video a while back of an M60 machine gun (Oh no I got them going on guns again) firing for 90 seconds non stop. The manufacturers of the advanced barrels claim that they can put 20,000 rounds through it before needing to service it. So if gun metals are advancing I see no reason that metals in an engine will not follow. Although I would say at this stage cost is a factor. Hendrik - Original Message - From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced? Folks, the function of oil in an engine is twofold: to lubricate, and more importantly to a turboDiesel, to cool the pistons and cylinder walls. Without oil being sprayed on the undersides of pistons, they would probably melt if running under heavy loads. Solid lubricants don't mention how they would solve this cooling problem Werner - Original Message - From: "Craig McCluskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced? On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:52:14 -0600 "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.physorg.com/news8947.html I wish I was smart enough to understand it all, but I am not. The article to which you must be referring is at http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/201204_tech.htm. The short answer is, "No, Mobil 1 will not be replaced yet." The long answer: New engines may be able to be manufactured and run such that they don't use any oil. It depends upon contamination, particularly with the particulates related to diesel. Older engines will still have to use oil. It may be that Mobil 1 will have the inorganic Fullerine-like nanoparticles added to reduce friction. They will be small enough to flow through filters, unlike the teflon oil additives. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?
Craig You're right, your link was the correct one. I got to it through a link at the other site. This sounds exciting, especially if, like you said, Mobil 1 could add it to their product. Harry > On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:52:14 -0600 "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > http://www.physorg.com/news8947.html > > > > I wish I was smart enough to understand it all, but I am not. > > The article to which you must be referring is at > http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/201204_tech.htm. > > The short answer is, "No, Mobil 1 will not be replaced yet." > > The long answer: New engines may be able to be manufactured and run such > that they don't use any oil. It depends upon contamination, particularly > with the particulates related to diesel. Older engines will still have to > use oil. It may be that Mobil 1 will have the inorganic Fullerine-like > nanoparticles added to reduce friction. They will be small enough to flow > through filters, unlike the teflon oil additives. > > > Craig >
Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?
Folks, the function of oil in an engine is twofold: to lubricate, and more importantly to a turboDiesel, to cool the pistons and cylinder walls. Without oil being sprayed on the undersides of pistons, they would probably melt if running under heavy loads. Solid lubricants don't mention how they would solve this cooling problem Werner - Original Message - From: "Craig McCluskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced? On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:52:14 -0600 "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.physorg.com/news8947.html I wish I was smart enough to understand it all, but I am not. The article to which you must be referring is at http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/201204_tech.htm. The short answer is, "No, Mobil 1 will not be replaced yet." The long answer: New engines may be able to be manufactured and run such that they don't use any oil. It depends upon contamination, particularly with the particulates related to diesel. Older engines will still have to use oil. It may be that Mobil 1 will have the inorganic Fullerine-like nanoparticles added to reduce friction. They will be small enough to flow through filters, unlike the teflon oil additives. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:52:14 -0600 "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.physorg.com/news8947.html > > I wish I was smart enough to understand it all, but I am not. The article to which you must be referring is at http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/201204_tech.htm. The short answer is, "No, Mobil 1 will not be replaced yet." The long answer: New engines may be able to be manufactured and run such that they don't use any oil. It depends upon contamination, particularly with the particulates related to diesel. Older engines will still have to use oil. It may be that Mobil 1 will have the inorganic Fullerine-like nanoparticles added to reduce friction. They will be small enough to flow through filters, unlike the teflon oil additives. Craig
[MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?
http://www.physorg.com/news8947.html I wish I was smart enough to understand it all, but I am not. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
