Re: [MBZ] First gear start

2005-10-28 Thread Marshall Booth

Gabriel S. wrote:

I've counted the gears before and there seems to be one missing...I'll count
again just to make sure.


If your 722.3 series diesel transmission is starting in 2nd - then it 
broken or the linkage is not properly adjusted.


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Re: [MBZ] First gear start

2005-10-28 Thread Gabriel S.
I've counted the gears before and there seems to be one missing...I'll count
again just to make sure.

On 10/27/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > < > None of the 124 diesels start in second! If yours starts in second, then
> > the linkage is probably worn and needs to be adjusted.>>
> >
> > Which seems to claim that more 124's were built from '86 to '90 than
> later
> > since first gear start began in 1991 in the 300E. BTW, this is first
> hand
> > knowledge.
> >
> > Despite having posted this little factoid more times than I can
> > count.
> >
> > RLE/Seattle
>
> Not sure what your point is?? Are you asking something or telling us
> something?
>
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Re: [MBZ] First gear start

2005-10-28 Thread Marshall Booth

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<>

Which seems to claim that more 124's were built from '86 to '90 than later 
since first gear start began in 1991 in the 300E. BTW, this is first hand 
knowledge.


Despite having posted this little factoid more times than I can 
count.


RLE/Seattle


Not sure what your point is?? Are you asking something or telling us 
something?


Marshall
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[MBZ] First gear start

2005-10-28 Thread RELNGSON
<>

Which seems to claim that more 124's were built from '86 to '90 than later 
since first gear start began in 1991 in the 300E. BTW, this is first hand 
knowledge.

Despite having posted this little factoid more times than I can 
count.

RLE/Seattle


Re: [MBZ] First gear start

2005-06-15 Thread degcoast
Fred,
Maybe you should call it shiftless.
DWight Giles
'79 240D, Green Goddess
Wickford, RI
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> From: frederick w moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/06/14 Tue PM 07:14:42 EDT
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> Subject: [MBZ] First gear start
> 
> Dr Marshall, et al. Thanks for the clarification. This car was in an 
> accident, sort of repaired, and owned by a "diesel mechanic", so the basis 
> for usual performance is unknown, to me anyway.
> TTFN
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
> I think I'll call it "Shifty"
> 
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[MBZ] First gear start

2005-06-14 Thread frederick w moir
Dr Marshall, et al. Thanks for the clarification. This car was in an 
accident, sort of repaired, and owned by a "diesel mechanic", so the basis 
for usual performance is unknown, to me anyway.

TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
I think I'll call it "Shifty"





Re: [MBZ] First gear start

2005-06-14 Thread Marshall Booth
frederick w moir wrote:
> 

> The cheap 190DT that I've been turning into an expensive cheap 190DT (with
> Rusty's stalwart help) starts out in first gear. It sat for 6 months over
> the winter, this spring the oil was changed to M1 and the trans oil and
> filter were changed too. When first driven it would not up-shift until 3800
> rpm or so, in all gears. Stuck kick-down I says!
> took it out and cleaned it, re-positioned the solenoid coil by about 90
> deg. and it now respond to the throttle position as it should, and the
> kick-down works as advertised.
> It still starts out in first, Q. is this normal for an 87 190DT?

YES!

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RE: [MBZ] First gear start

2005-06-14 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
No Fred, you are our resident critical philosopher and comic. We need
you.

Dwight Giles, Jr.
1979 240D auto, 243K+  miles
Wickford RI
 
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Subject: [MBZ] First gear start

Hi everybody!
I know that you changed the list just to get rid of me, but I'm
baack. 
(Har-de-Har-Har)
Seriously folks, ALL HAIL Kaleb! (and Rusty too!)

The cheap 190DT that I've been turning into an expensive cheap 190DT
(with 
Rusty's stalwart help) starts out in first gear. It sat for 6 months
over 
the winter, this spring the oil was changed to M1 and the trans oil and 
filter were changed too. When first driven it would not up-shift until
3800 
rpm or so, in all gears. Stuck kick-down I says!
took it out and cleaned it, re-positioned the solenoid coil by about 90 
deg. and it now respond to the throttle position as it should, and the 
kick-down works as advertised.
It still starts out in first, Q. is this normal for an 87 190DT?
The PO said that the trans was rebuilt, (car has 144Kmiles) and the 
secondary pump has been out, by the slight ring of red sealant around
it, 
and the TC is painted black, as seen from under the car whilst changing
the 
oil and filter.
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
84 190D
85 300TD
87 190DT
85 190E (organ donor)



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Re: [MBZ] First gear start

2005-06-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would think it should start in 1st.  Im sure marshall would know 
better though.


frederick w moir wrote:


Hi everybody!
I know that you changed the list just to get rid of me, but I'm 
baack. (Har-de-Har-Har)

Seriously folks, ALL HAIL Kaleb! (and Rusty too!)

The cheap 190DT that I've been turning into an expensive cheap 190DT 
(with Rusty's stalwart help) starts out in first gear. It sat for 6 
months over the winter, this spring the oil was changed to M1 and the 
trans oil and filter were changed too. When first driven it would not 
up-shift until 3800 rpm or so, in all gears. Stuck kick-down I says!
took it out and cleaned it, re-positioned the solenoid coil by about 90 
deg. and it now respond to the throttle position as it should, and the 
kick-down works as advertised.

It still starts out in first, Q. is this normal for an 87 190DT?
The PO said that the trans was rebuilt, (car has 144Kmiles) and the 
secondary pump has been out, by the slight ring of red sealant around 
it, and the TC is painted black, as seen from under the car whilst 
changing the oil and filter.

TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
84 190D
85 300TD
87 190DT
85 190E (organ donor)



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[MBZ] First gear start

2005-06-13 Thread frederick w moir

Hi everybody!
I know that you changed the list just to get rid of me, but I'm baack. 
(Har-de-Har-Har)

Seriously folks, ALL HAIL Kaleb! (and Rusty too!)

The cheap 190DT that I've been turning into an expensive cheap 190DT (with 
Rusty's stalwart help) starts out in first gear. It sat for 6 months over 
the winter, this spring the oil was changed to M1 and the trans oil and 
filter were changed too. When first driven it would not up-shift until 3800 
rpm or so, in all gears. Stuck kick-down I says!
took it out and cleaned it, re-positioned the solenoid coil by about 90 
deg. and it now respond to the throttle position as it should, and the 
kick-down works as advertised.

It still starts out in first, Q. is this normal for an 87 190DT?
The PO said that the trans was rebuilt, (car has 144Kmiles) and the 
secondary pump has been out, by the slight ring of red sealant around it, 
and the TC is painted black, as seen from under the car whilst changing the 
oil and filter.

TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
84 190D
85 300TD
87 190DT
85 190E (organ donor)