Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-25 Thread Rich Thomas

Yeah -- G for gray!  It is a gray gray market car?

--R

Michael Hall wrote:
The owner of the car said, in response to me asking what a G-Series was 
and telling him it looked like a normal 280 Se and thus isn't worth near 
his reserve, said the following:


As for as I know but don't quote me on this G-series is know as one of 
last handmade German cars of this type this is just what we have been 
told by previous owner, and it has something to do with the gray color 
of the car. Sorry that is all I know. 


Whoops, I just quoted you . . . and you're officially an idiot.

Mike

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Thats the only G series I know of 
 
Harry

69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
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1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
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In normally accepted mercedes speak the  G series refers to the Gwagon -
W460,W461,W463 series
Peter
 




  




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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-25 Thread mykd1
idiot? moi ?  
 
Harry
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72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
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The owner of the car said, in response to me asking what a G-Series was 
and telling him it looked like a normal 280 Se and thus isn't worth near 
his reserve, said the following:

As for as I know but don't quote me on this G-series is know as one of 
last handmade German cars of this type this is just what we have been 
told by previous owner, and it has something to do with the gray color 
of the car. Sorry that is all I know. 

Whoops, I just quoted you . . . and you're officially an idiot.

Mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thats the only G series I know of 
  
 Harry
 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
 72 350SL   108,000 Miles
 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
 1999 Mazda Miata   
  
  
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 In normally accepted mercedes speak the  G series refers to the Gwagon -
 W460,W461,W463 series
 Peter
  



   


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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-25 Thread Bob Rentfro

Mike typed:

The owner of the car said, in response to me asking what a G-Series was
and telling him it looked like a normal 280 Se and thus isn't worth near
his reserve, said the following:

As for as I know but don't quote me on this G-series is know as one of
last handmade German cars of this type this is just what we have been
told by previous owner, and it has something to do with the gray color
of the car. Sorry that is all I know. 

Whoops, I just quoted you . . . and you're officially an idiot.

And Harry wondered:

idiot? moi ?

Naw...the ebay guy's a knuck.
Do you think the ebay seller really had someone tell him that story and he's 
that clueless, or is he a sleazebag?


Bob Rentfro 





Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-25 Thread mykd1
He's a clueless sleazebag, which I think applies to at least half of these 
idiots on ebay trying to sell something with a made up story
 
Harry
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72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
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Sent: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:06:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [MBZ] G-Series?


Mike typed:

The owner of the car said, in response to me asking what a G-Series was
 and telling him it looked like a normal 280 Se and thus isn't worth near
 his reserve, said the following:

 As for as I know but don't quote me on this G-series is know as one of
 last handmade German cars of this type this is just what we have been
 told by previous owner, and it has something to do with the gray color
 of the car. Sorry that is all I know. 

 Whoops, I just quoted you . . . and you're officially an idiot.

And Harry wondered:

idiot? moi ?

Naw...the ebay guy's a knuck.
Do you think the ebay seller really had someone tell him that story and he's 
that clueless, or is he a sleazebag?

Bob Rentfro 


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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-24 Thread Bob Rentfro

Ed remembered:

Was it not the Herr Doktor that has posted on several occasions of the
evils of the key *ring* 

Indeed it was. In addition to setting us straight on synthetic oil, 
admonishing us to change our fuses, and using his CAP key for emphisis, Herr 
Doktor Booth frequently reminds us of the evils of bulky/heavy key 
rings...not the least of which is scratching surfaces.


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'87 Acura Legend  177K
Still waiting on '72 350SL  78K
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Re: [MBZ] G Series

2006-08-24 Thread Joesasser2
The Galendewagon (sp) the big jeep looking thing. Think of the bubble top  
Popemobile thing.
 
Joe


Re: [MBZ] G Series

2006-08-24 Thread Sunil Hari

Gelandewagen?

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The Galendewagon (sp) the big jeep looking thing. Think of the bubble top
Popemobile thing.

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Re: [MBZ] G Series

2006-08-24 Thread LT Don

God bless you.  But no problem -- I sneezed just before and just after
typing the previous.

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Gelandewagen?





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Re: [MBZ] G Series

2006-08-24 Thread Jeff Zedic

The Gelandewagen is the G-Klasse, not a G-series.

Jeff Zedic
Toronto



Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-24 Thread Marshall Booth

Bob Rentfro wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/gapbl

What is this G-series. I don't think I've ever heard of such a thing.


I see NOTHING special about this car. A very ordinary W108 with modest 
mileage for a ~35 year old car.


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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-24 Thread Marshall Booth

Bob Rentfro wrote:

Andrew wondered:

why did Mercedes use a dash design where the keys and keyring
 dangling from the ignition would inevitably damage the dashboard finish?

I bet Herr Doktor Boothwould love to answer this!


Back then, Mercedes provided a little leather key cover that held JUST 
the car key and wouldn't damage anything. They discouraged the use of 
rings with other keys, flashlights, penknives, tape measures, etc. on 
them and requested that dealers caution their customers to prevent 
premature wear of the ignition tumbler (they didn't mention the wood).


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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-24 Thread Peter Merle
In normally accepted mercedes speak the  G series refers to the Gwagon -
W460,W461,W463 series
Peter
 



Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-24 Thread mykd1
Thats the only G series I know of 
 
Harry
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] G-Series?


In normally accepted mercedes speak the  G series refers to the Gwagon -
W460,W461,W463 series
Peter
 

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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-23 Thread Jim Cathey

G-Series - as in Guard Series, or Guard Edition as called now, would
incorporate  bullet proofing/bomb proofing/ etc.  If this is a true,
manufactured by MB as a Guard Series vehicle, it would indeed be a VERY
rare unit, as most of the era were in the 600's or 300's.


And there's a reason they only did that to the big-engined vehicles.


Or he could just be full of it.


Yeah, that's my thought.

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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-23 Thread David Brodbeck
andrew strasfogel wrote:
 A real POS for the price.  The bowed wood piece at the base of the
 windshield is alligatored and needs a complete refinish.

Looking at the dash I have the same question I always had about my W123
-- why did Mercedes use a dash design where the keys and keyring
dangling from the ignition would inevitably damage the dashboard finish?
 Most car companies leave space under the ignition for that stuff to
hang into, one way or another.



Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-23 Thread mykd1
Looked like a ordinary 280SE to me, if I remember correctly most of those 
special edition Benz's with bullet proofing were 6.3's All that weight would 
just be to much for anything less to handle 
 
Harry
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72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
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Sent: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:40:26 -0700
Subject: Re: [MBZ] G-Series?


 G-Series - as in Guard Series, or Guard Edition as called now, would
 incorporate  bullet proofing/bomb proofing/ etc.  If this is a true,
 manufactured by MB as a Guard Series vehicle, it would indeed be a VERY
 rare unit, as most of the era were in the 600's or 300's.

And there's a reason they only did that to the big-engined vehicles.

 Or he could just be full of it.

Yeah, that's my thought.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-23 Thread Mitch Haley
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 Looked like a ordinary 280SE to me, if I remember correctly most of those 
 special edition
  Benz's with bullet proofing were 6.3's All that weight would just be to much 
 for anything
 less to handle


Maybe somebody should ask him if the power windows work. ;-)



Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-23 Thread Bob Rentfro

Andrew wondered:

why did Mercedes use a dash design where the keys and keyring
dangling from the ignition would inevitably damage the dashboard finish?

I bet Herr Doktor Boothwould love to answer this!


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 157K
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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-23 Thread Hendrik Riessen

Not with a 6 cylinder motor, that would make it a bunker.

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G-Series - as in Guard Series, or Guard Edition as called now, would
incorporate  bullet proofing/bomb proofing/ etc.  If this is a true,
manufactured by MB as a Guard Series vehicle, it would indeed be a VERY
rare unit, as most of the era were in the 600's or 300's.

Or he could just be full of it.

Mike

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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-23 Thread Ed Booher

Was it not the Herr Doktor that has posted on several occasions of the
evils of the key *ring* and how any self-respecting evil dictating
Doktor despot wouldn't be caught without a leather key wallet?

On 8/23/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Andrew wondered:

why did Mercedes use a dash design where the keys and keyring
 dangling from the ignition would inevitably damage the dashboard finish?

I bet Herr Doktor Boothwould love to answer this!


Bob Rentfro


Wait! That's what you meant isn't it. Hah!

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Re: [MBZ] G Series

2006-08-23 Thread James Jetton
I believe Mercedes would say that there shouldn't be any keys dangling off the 
ignition key, only a fob.


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Oh yea, I forgot to mention that you will spend lots of money keeping
it going. I just replaced the close assist vacuum pump last week.
Found a new one on eBay for ~$300. Three weeks before that I replaced
the Alda. Before that, the blower motor regulator. Sure it hurts the
wallet on a regular basis, but you soon forget that the next time you
go for a drive.

-Dave Walton
87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

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 I can't comment on the gas versions, but my experience has been that
 nothing compares to the W140. It's a way nice ride.

 -Dave Walton
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 On 8/23/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I found a 1992 300SE at my local indy's. He works on all sorts of
  European cars, but he specializes in Mercedes. Everyone in and around
  Wichita (and maybe further) go to him for great Mercedes work.  He also
  has a small lot at the shop where he sells a few benzes and also some
  exotic cars like Ferraris.  He has a 1992 300SE with 126K.  It was one
  of his customer's cars and he has a file from the when the car was new
  for service (maintenance work) then after the warranty work at the
  dealer all the work was done at his shop. I have not had a chance to
  scour the records, but it looks like the previous owner really took care
  of it.   I am wondering if anyone has advice regarding:
 
 
 
  1.  Evaluating the condition of a 140
  2.  Common problems with a 140 to check if they have been repaired
  already.
  3.  Other suggestions about the 140 Chassis.
  4.  Information about the engine - is that the 104 3.2 engine?
  5.  Fuel Mileage
 
 
 
  According to the EPA website, my 1990 300SEL gets better mileage than
  this one.  That seems hard to believe, given how large the LWB 126
  chassis is. According to the website the 140 chassis is 15/19 and my car
  is 16/19.  I had assumed that the 3.2 was more efficient and since the
  car was lighter that the 140 would get 22-23 on the highway.  What are
  the experiences of other 140 owners?
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] G Series

2006-08-23 Thread andrew strasfogel

That would mean remembering to take TWO sets of keys every time I go out
with the car.  UNACCEPTABLE.



On 8/23/06, James Jetton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I believe Mercedes would say that there shouldn't be any keys dangling off
the ignition key, only a fob.


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Re: [MBZ] G Series

2006-08-23 Thread Ed Booher

I carry three sets most of the time ... you get used to it.

On 8/23/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That would mean remembering to take TWO sets of keys every time I go out
with the car.  UNACCEPTABLE.


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Re: [MBZ] G Series

2006-08-23 Thread andrew strasfogel

I have enough to remember already (3 cats, 3 cars, 4 serious hobbies).

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I carry three sets most of the time ... you get used to it.

On 8/23/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That would mean remembering to take TWO sets of keys every time I go out
 with the car.  UNACCEPTABLE.

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[MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-22 Thread Bob Rentfro
http://tinyurl.com/gapbl

What is this G-series. I don't think I've ever heard of such a thing.

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I think by G-Series he means that this rare model was manufactured in
Germany.

On 8/22/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/gapbl

 What is this G-series. I don't think I've ever heard of such a thing.

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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-22 Thread Steve MacSween
Oh my lord, maybe that guy can sell my smokey 240d for me:

Exclusive two-stroke Mercedes diesel, one of a handful lovingly
hand-crafted in the black forest for the great(x5)grandson of the Emperor
Ferdinand

ROTFLMAO

Mac

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 http://tinyurl.com/gapbl
 
 What is this G-series. I don't think I've ever heard of such a thing.
 
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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-22 Thread andrew strasfogel

A real POS for the price.  The bowed wood piece at the base of the
windshield is alligatored and needs a complete refinish.

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I think by G-Series he means that this rare model was manufactured in
Germany.

On 8/22/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/gapbl

 What is this G-series. I don't think I've ever heard of such a thing.

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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-22 Thread Jim Cathey

What is this G-series. I don't think I've ever heard of such a thing.


The G-spot that'll get tickled if he actually gets north of $13k for it?

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-22 Thread mykd1
I wonder if the dude has been sniffing to many cow patties ;)
 
Harry
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
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From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:44:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] G-Series?


Oh my lord, maybe that guy can sell my smokey 240d for me:

Exclusive two-stroke Mercedes diesel, one of a handful lovingly
hand-crafted in the black forest for the great(x5)grandson of the Emperor
Ferdinand

ROTFLMAO

Mac

on 8/22/06 3:00 PM, Bob Rentfro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/gapbl
 
 What is this G-series. I don't think I've ever heard of such a thing.
 
 Bob Rentfro
 '77 300D 157K
 '87 Acura Legend  177K
 Still waiting on '72 350SL  78K
 Litchfield Park, AZ
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Re: [MBZ] G-Series?

2006-08-22 Thread Michael Hall

Bob Rentfro wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/gapbl

What is this G-series. I don't think I've ever heard of such a thing.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 157K
'87 Acura Legend  177K
Still waiting on '72 350SL  78K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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G-Series - as in Guard Series, or Guard Edition as called now, would 
incorporate  bullet proofing/bomb proofing/ etc.  If this is a true, 
manufactured by MB as a Guard Series vehicle, it would indeed be a VERY 
rare unit, as most of the era were in the 600's or 300's.


Or he could just be full of it.

Mike