Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
Bob/Peter, I'm a victim of my symptoms. I get chest pain on exertion and if I'm stressed/excited (getting a clunker snowmobile to start for instance) at all other times I feel fine. No reflux, no taste (although I've had that before) no indigestion of any kind, no heartburn... So you go to the doc with chest pains and he wants to work up the chest. We found nothing, zip, zero, but he considers some of that inconclusive because I can't run on the treadmill for very long. Still it all improves with the Prilosec (which works better than Protonix) so I'm assured it isn't a heart issue. Doc wants to do his due diligence but I'm ready to scope the insides and see whats going on. Peter, I did try reducing my milk intake on the theory that it would maybe lower the pain response. In fact it made no difference at all... If I had what you'd call standard reflux symptoms I'd be more into it but as I don't... -Curt Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:23:40 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse! Message-ID: 2479e1691001171323k6395125do7272cc8af571a...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt Get the GI consult and get an endoscopy so there is no doubt of what's going on. I was flailing like you are, got the referral for the super-fly-lesbian-gut-doctor, had the scope and found the Barrett's Esophagus before it went all cancer on me. I do a protonix each morn and the acid pumps are cut way back. Bob R On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: chamomile (great for GI woes...) I didn't realize... Guess what I'm going to be drinking for awhile. Prilosec seems to irritate my stomach (strange side effect of the acid reducers according to my doc) so I'm on Prevacid lately but it doesn't seem to do the job. Next time I talk to the doc I'm going to lean on him for a GI consult. He wanted to try a cardiac CT but it doesn't sound like he's getting permission. I'm really too young for it to be required... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
The doctor had no choice but to work up the chest pain. Chest pain = EKG period. A good doctor first rules out what will imminently kill you. And ER docs usually run a battery of tests because they don't like discharging patient to home until they are positive that the patient is OK. Basically they don't want to get sued. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 17, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Bob/Peter, I'm a victim of my symptoms. I get chest pain on exertion and if I'm stressed/excited (getting a clunker snowmobile to start for instance) at all other times I feel fine. No reflux, no taste (although I've had that before) no indigestion of any kind, no heartburn... So you go to the doc with chest pains and he wants to work up the chest. We found nothing, zip, zero, but he considers some of that inconclusive because I can't run on the treadmill for very long. Still it all improves with the Prilosec (which works better than Protonix) so I'm assured it isn't a heart issue. Doc wants to do his due diligence but I'm ready to scope the insides and see whats going on. Peter, I did try reducing my milk intake on the theory that it would maybe lower the pain response. In fact it made no difference at all... If I had what you'd call standard reflux symptoms I'd be more into it but as I don't... -Curt Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:23:40 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse! Message-ID: 2479e1691001171323k6395125do7272cc8af571a...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt Get the GI consult and get an endoscopy so there is no doubt of what's going on. I was flailing like you are, got the referral for the super-fly-lesbian-gut-doctor, had the scope and found the Barrett's Esophagus before it went all cancer on me. I do a protonix each morn and the acid pumps are cut way back. Bob R On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: chamomile (great for GI woes...) I didn't realize... Guess what I'm going to be drinking for awhile. Prilosec seems to irritate my stomach (strange side effect of the acid reducers according to my doc) so I'm on Prevacid lately but it doesn't seem to do the job. Next time I talk to the doc I'm going to lean on him for a GI consult. He wanted to try a cardiac CT but it doesn't sound like he's getting permission. I'm really too young for it to be required... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
Search for all the food type remedies. Perhaps eat tons of garlic - the former Kiev resident I work with said it is europe's most potent killer of stuff you want dead in your body - i.e. it kills all the bad stuff in your mouth that causes tooth cavities, etc. I have begun taking fresh garlic bulb chewed up with good high fat youghurt every morning - for grins. I have heard numerous persons speak about the reality that the big-pharma fixes for gut stuff are purely money makers for the mega-national big-pharma - stay away from them as much as possible, or, give your money to Nancy Pelosi or any other arm of the federal government - same difference. Lowering acid is not the trick - I forget what the trick is... maybe a body cleanse, you know - get a 20 meter length of cheesecloth and swallow a meter of cheesecloth each day until the first swallow comes out the other end - I heard of that type of cleanse one time - maybe it works. Also try other things that bring balance back to the gut - perhaps acidophilous - the bacteria in yoghurt. Consult with the people at a good health store - not GNC, but small independent perhaps? I would stay as far away from the pharma meds - do the eating thing, whatever that means - you gotta find that out and make fit for you. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
Chewing on garlic? Chicks must be flocking your way! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Search for all the food type remedies. Perhaps eat tons of garlic - the former Kiev resident I work with said it is europe's most potent killer of stuff you want dead in your body - i.e. it kills all the bad stuff in your mouth that causes tooth cavities, etc. I have begun taking fresh garlic bulb chewed up with good high fat youghurt every morning - for grins. I have heard numerous persons speak about the reality that the big-pharma fixes for gut stuff are purely money makers for the mega-national big-pharma - stay away from them as much as possible, or, give your money to Nancy Pelosi or any other arm of the federal government - same difference. Lowering acid is not the trick - I forget what the trick is... maybe a body cleanse, you know - get a 20 meter length of cheesecloth and swallow a meter of cheesecloth each day until the first swallow comes out the other end - I heard of that type of cleanse one time - maybe it works. Also try other things that bring balance back to the gut - perhaps acidophilous - the bacteria in yoghurt. Consult with the people at a good health store - not GNC, but small independent perhaps? I would stay as far away from the pharma meds - do the eating thing, whatever that means - you gotta find that out and make fit for you. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
i've always been a fan of gordon's. way back in they day, i arranged for the knutson brothers to bring gordon to rusty-q. they were quite angry with me and complained that gordon stunk of garlic the whole way. well, yeah, i mean, that is his charm, no? On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Search for all the food type remedies. Perhaps eat tons of garlic - the former Kiev resident I work with said it is europe's most potent killer of stuff you want dead in your body - i.e. it kills all the bad stuff in your mouth that causes tooth cavities, etc. I have begun taking fresh garlic bulb chewed up with good high fat youghurt every morning - for grins. I have heard numerous persons speak about the reality that the big-pharma fixes for gut stuff are purely money makers for the mega-national big-pharma - stay away from them as much as possible, or, give your money to Nancy Pelosi or any other arm of the federal government - same difference. Lowering acid is not the trick - I forget what the trick is... maybe a body cleanse, you know - get a 20 meter length of cheesecloth and swallow a meter of cheesecloth each day until the first swallow comes out the other end - I heard of that type of cleanse one time - maybe it works. Also try other things that bring balance back to the gut - perhaps acidophilous - the bacteria in yoghurt. Consult with the people at a good health store - not GNC, but small independent perhaps? I would stay as far away from the pharma meds - do the eating thing, whatever that means - you gotta find that out and make fit for you. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
Dimitri wrote: Chewing on garlic? Chicks must be flocking your way! Yep - that don't work. Although, I do like the odor of garlic, really. When my wife eats garlic for whatever reason and has that fine aroma oozing from the pores of her skin - I find it nice, really. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
jabba wrote: well, yeah, i mean, that is his charm, no? Yeah - and I toned it back for the special event - the HotlantaQ. DBV didn't even make it - he caught wind I was riding along... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
no, the first time was you with both of them. no? it's amazing how long we've all been together that we the details of these events already slip our minds On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: jabba wrote: well, yeah, i mean, that is his charm, no? Yeah - and I toned it back for the special event - the HotlantaQ. DBV didn't even make it - he caught wind I was riding along... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
Mmmm good. Garlic scent oozing from skin. It sure as hell tastes good though. It's just the antisocial aspect of it that can potentially be problematic. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Dimitri wrote: Chewing on garlic? Chicks must be flocking your way! Yep - that don't work. Although, I do like the odor of garlic, really. When my wife eats garlic for whatever reason and has that fine aroma oozing from the pores of her skin - I find it nice, really. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
Dimitri wrote: Mmmm good. Garlic scent oozing from skin. I heard that this is what garlic does - it comes out from your skin as odor - good or bad. I think most people are like what you say - they find garlic odor as anti-social, so ya just gotta be careful. I think garlic is a wonderful odor. Eat it Curt. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
jabba wrote: no, the first time was you with both of them. no? They were both supposed to come, but only DBT was in the car - the newly repaired TD that hit a deer. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
I was wondering why everyone stays at least 50 feet UPwind from you. Search for all the food type remedies. Perhaps eat tons of garlic - the former Kiev resident I work with said it is europe's most potent killer of stuff you want dead in your body - i.e. it kills all the bad stuff in your mouth that causes tooth cavities, etc. I have begun taking fresh garlic bulb chewed up with good high fat youghurt every morning - for grins. I have heard numerous persons speak about the reality that the big-pharma fixes for gut stuff are purely money makers for the mega-national big-pharma - stay away from them as much as possible, or, give your money to Nancy Pelosi or any other arm of the federal government - same difference. Lowering acid is not the trick - I forget what the trick is... maybe a body cleanse, you know - get a 20 meter length of cheesecloth and swallow a meter of cheesecloth each day until the first swallow comes out the other end - I heard of that type of cleanse one time - maybe it works. Also try other things that bring balance back to the gut - perhaps acidophilous - the bacteria in yoghurt. Consult with the people at a good health store - not GNC, but small independent perhaps? I would stay as far away from the pharma meds - do the eating thing, whatever that means - you gotta find that out and make fit for you. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
This is not banned so I can't say what your advice is. --R Mountain Man wrote: Search for all the food type remedies. Perhaps eat tons of garlic - the former Kiev resident I work with said it is europe's most potent killer of stuff you want dead in your body - i.e. it kills all the bad stuff in your mouth that causes tooth cavities, etc. I have begun taking fresh garlic bulb chewed up with good high fat youghurt every morning - for grins. I have heard numerous persons speak about the reality that the big-pharma fixes for gut stuff are purely money makers for the mega-national big-pharma - stay away from them as much as possible, or, give your money to Nancy Pelosi or any other arm of the federal government - same difference. Lowering acid is not the trick - I forget what the trick is... maybe a body cleanse, you know - get a 20 meter length of cheesecloth and swallow a meter of cheesecloth each day until the first swallow comes out the other end - I heard of that type of cleanse one time - maybe it works. Also try other things that bring balance back to the gut - perhaps acidophilous - the bacteria in yoghurt. Consult with the people at a good health store - not GNC, but small independent perhaps? I would stay as far away from the pharma meds - do the eating thing, whatever that means - you gotta find that out and make fit for you. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gut problems, was: now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
--R- wrote: This is not banned so I can't say what your advice is. change the address to banned and post - I'm interested. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
