Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-13 Thread redghost
Sweet and most bodacious  List Mom, what is the charge to procure a pan 
to allow Gump to once more roam the streets of Seattle?  It would need 
the drain plug installed and maybe a few pan bolts.  Shipped to 98105




On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 08:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


I have plenty of them around.

OK Don wrote:


One would think that our local list mom - used parts dealer would have
chimed in by now ---

On 2/11/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Suggestion of non 61x models to scrounge from?  there are no diesel
living at the PnP and the local recycler does not bother with 70's 
cars


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 04:24 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:



Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.


Time to get out the welder!  Welding oily/fuely metal can be tricky,
as it soaks into the pores.  Can be done, however.  Of course, a
U-Pull pan, if available, is easier and plenty cheap enough.

-- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-13 Thread redghost
I am wanting the whole shebang new.  There were a few bolts that felt 
cross threaded while trying to get the pan off.  Going to want a fresh 
drain plug and gasket.


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 07:29 PM, John Berryman wrote:



On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 10:04 PM, redghost wrote:


Suggestion of non 61x models to scrounge from?  there are no diesel
living at the PnP and the local recycler does not bother with 70's 
cars




Call Rusty, you'll have it at your door in no time without having to
waste time and fuel scrounging around. You're going to want a new
gasket too.

Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-13 Thread redghost
It really was.  All the way along there were minor scuffs, then that 
huge drain bolt grabbed on and torn the back off the pan.   Wonder if I 
should install a skid plate.


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 05:04 PM, John Berryman wrote:


Things happen for a reason I'm told. The oil pan has to be the most
vulnerable part of these cars.

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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I have plenty of them around.

OK Don wrote:


One would think that our local list mom - used parts dealer would have
chimed in by now ---

On 2/11/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Suggestion of non 61x models to scrounge from?  there are no diesel
living at the PnP and the local recycler does not bother with 70's cars

On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 04:24 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:



Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.


Time to get out the welder!  Welding oily/fuely metal can be tricky,
as it soaks into the pores.  Can be done, however.  Of course, a
U-Pull pan, if available, is easier and plenty cheap enough.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Brian Chase
No joke? A new oil pan for $30? I'd have expected 8 times that. I should get 
one just in case. Or better yet, I'd like to fashion a skid plate.


Brian
83 240D


From: "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:49:30 -0500

I got one from Rusty awhile back, never used it but as I recall it was only
about $30.

Trampas

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

Marshall,

I am very slow, slow as my car.  That is what surprised me, was I hit
something going fast enough that it had force enough to go through the
pan.

There seems to be a dearth of 61x pans in the local market at the
moment.  I do want the car back on the road, and if a spare is around,
I will be happy knowing whatever mystery pan killer was out there can
not keep me off the road for long.


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 04:12 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:

> redghost wrote:
>> Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when
>> the Karma Bug bites me again?
>
> I'd get a new pan from a recycler. Most people don't tear a hole in the
> pan more than once - but if you're a really slow learner
>
> Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Brian Chase
When I holed my aluminum pan on the big war wagon, I had it welded, and it's 
held for like fifteen years now. It would seem that if aluminum could handle 
it, steel could. Maybe go for the cheaper option?


Brian


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:12:20 -0500

redghost wrote:
> Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when
> the Karma Bug bites me again?

I'd get a new pan from a recycler. Most people don't tear a hole in the
pan more than once - but if you're a really slow learner

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 10:04 PM, redghost wrote:


Suggestion of non 61x models to scrounge from?  there are no diesel
living at the PnP and the local recycler does not bother with 70's cars



	Call Rusty, you'll have it at your door in no time without having to 
waste time and fuel scrounging around. You're going to want a new 
gasket too.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread OK Don
One would think that our local list mom - used parts dealer would have
chimed in by now ---

On 2/11/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Suggestion of non 61x models to scrounge from?  there are no diesel
> living at the PnP and the local recycler does not bother with 70's cars
>
> On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 04:24 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>
> >> Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.
> >
> > Time to get out the welder!  Welding oily/fuely metal can be tricky,
> > as it soaks into the pores.  Can be done, however.  Of course, a
> > U-Pull pan, if available, is easier and plenty cheap enough.
> >
> > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread redghost
Suggestion of non 61x models to scrounge from?  there are no diesel 
living at the PnP and the local recycler does not bother with 70's cars


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 04:24 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.


Time to get out the welder!  Welding oily/fuely metal can be tricky,
as it soaks into the pores.  Can be done, however.  Of course, a
U-Pull pan, if available, is easier and plenty cheap enough.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Zeitgeist
I think I've got a couple spare pans lying around...well, they're
still attached to NFG engines, but around nonetheless.

On 2/11/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There seems to be a dearth of 61x pans in the local market at the
> moment.  I do want the car back on the road, and if a spare is around,

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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 07:49 PM, Trampas wrote:

I got one from Rusty awhile back, never used it but as I recall it was 
only

about $30.

Trampas




	I hate quoting other people's prices but I want to say the pan I got 
from Rusty last year was like $13.00 and the gasket was more like 
$17.00 so $30.00 plus oil sounds about right.
	In fact I had to buy another one this past year as my friend used my 
300CD while I was away ( after hearing a story from a local tow truck 
driver about a girl he was seeing running off the road in a Mercedes) I 
believe he lied to me and let her drive my car. He acted surprised when 
I told him that while I was away someone went off-road with my car. 
When I left for vacation, it was in my driveway. It was parked over a 
sandy spot across the street when I returned.


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Mercedes had a prominently offered set of steel skid plates in the late 50s 
and 60s (or so), to protect the oil pan and other vulnerable parts.  I was 
stationed in Europe at the time, and remember seeing that in the options 
list.
It might be a good idea to look into that if you drive in areas where you 
can get that kind of damage.

Werner

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan




On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 06:58 PM, redghost wrote:


Could have been.  Karma was running low.  Racing to show one of the
houses I rent out.  This was going to be for a pack of mezkins with
lots of cars.  Guess the man upstairs did not want that to take place.



Things happen for a reason I'm told. The oil pan has to be the most
vulnerable part of these cars.

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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 07:02 PM, redghost wrote:


Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when
the Karma Bug bites me again?



	Just get one and be more careful. They're cheap enough to make you 
think the gasket is overpriced.


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 06:58 PM, redghost wrote:


Could have been.  Karma was running low.  Racing to show one of the
houses I rent out.  This was going to be for a pack of mezkins with
lots of cars.  Guess the man upstairs did not want that to take place.



	Things happen for a reason I'm told. The oil pan has to be the most 
vulnerable part of these cars.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Trampas
I got one from Rusty awhile back, never used it but as I recall it was only
about $30. 

Trampas

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Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:22 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

Marshall,

I am very slow, slow as my car.  That is what surprised me, was I hit 
something going fast enough that it had force enough to go through the 
pan.

There seems to be a dearth of 61x pans in the local market at the 
moment.  I do want the car back on the road, and if a spare is around, 
I will be happy knowing whatever mystery pan killer was out there can 
not keep me off the road for long.


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 04:12 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:

> redghost wrote:
>> Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when
>> the Karma Bug bites me again?
>
> I'd get a new pan from a recycler. Most people don't tear a hole in the
> pan more than once - but if you're a really slow learner
>
> Marshall
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Cathey

Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.


Time to get out the welder!  Welding oily/fuely metal can be tricky,
as it soaks into the pores.  Can be done, however.  Of course, a
U-Pull pan, if available, is easier and plenty cheap enough.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread redghost

Marshall,

I am very slow, slow as my car.  That is what surprised me, was I hit 
something going fast enough that it had force enough to go through the 
pan.


There seems to be a dearth of 61x pans in the local market at the 
moment.  I do want the car back on the road, and if a spare is around, 
I will be happy knowing whatever mystery pan killer was out there can 
not keep me off the road for long.



On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 04:12 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


redghost wrote:

Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when
the Karma Bug bites me again?


I'd get a new pan from a recycler. Most people don't tear a hole in the
pan more than once - but if you're a really slow learner

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread Marshall Booth

redghost wrote:
Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when 
the Karma Bug bites me again?


I'd get a new pan from a recycler. Most people don't tear a hole in the 
pan more than once - but if you're a really slow learner


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-12 Thread redghost
Do these weld for repair, or should I just get two from Rusty for when 
the Karma Bug bites me again?


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 02:00 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:


I think the steel portion of the pan from any OM61X engine will work.

btw: The same thing happened to my old 220D back when my ex drove it
down a steep hill at high speed, then bottomed out, tearing a
dime-sized hole in the front edge.  I'm surprised as hell that she
even noticed it before draining the engine dry--clearly a miracle from
on high.

On 2/11/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.  Got
about a half mile before I noticed the pressure dropping.  Was able to
pull into a gas station and call for a tow while she piddled what
little oil she had left.  Just want to kick yourself in the nuts when
that happens and you know you should have grabbed a pan off a om 616
for just in case.


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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-11 Thread redghost
Could have been.  Karma was running low.  Racing to show one of the 
houses I rent out.  This was going to be for a pack of mezkins with 
lots of cars.  Guess the man upstairs did not want that to take place.


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 01:37 PM, John Berryman wrote:



On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 03:55 PM, redghost wrote:


Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.  Got
about a half mile before I noticed the pressure dropping.  Was able to
pull into a gas station and call for a tow while she piddled what
little oil she had left.  Just want to kick yourself in the nuts when
that happens and you know you should have grabbed a pan off a om 616
for just in case.


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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-11 Thread Zeitgeist
I think the steel portion of the pan from any OM61X engine will work.

btw: The same thing happened to my old 220D back when my ex drove it
down a steep hill at high speed, then bottomed out, tearing a
dime-sized hole in the front edge.  I'm surprised as hell that she
even noticed it before draining the engine dry--clearly a miracle from
on high.

On 2/11/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.  Got
> about a half mile before I noticed the pressure dropping.  Was able to
> pull into a gas station and call for a tow while she piddled what
> little oil she had left.  Just want to kick yourself in the nuts when
> that happens and you know you should have grabbed a pan off a om 616
> for just in case.

Casey
Olympia, WA
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Re: [MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-11 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 03:55 PM, redghost wrote:


Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.  Got
about a half mile before I noticed the pressure dropping.  Was able to
pull into a gas station and call for a tow while she piddled what
little oil she had left.  Just want to kick yourself in the nuts when
that happens and you know you should have grabbed a pan off a om 616
for just in case.


--
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Could have been the Kharma bug taking a bite.

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[MBZ] Holed the Pan

2006-02-11 Thread redghost
Something jumped up and bit the sh*t out of my oil pan in Gump.  Got 
about a half mile before I noticed the pressure dropping.  Was able to 
pull into a gas station and call for a tow while she piddled what 
little oil she had left.  Just want to kick yourself in the nuts when 
that happens and you know you should have grabbed a pan off a om 616 
for just in case.



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Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz