Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

So I am told. There was a really good NOVA on PBS recently about research on 
psychedelics that was very interesting and insightful that I highly recommend:

https://www.pbs.org/video/can-psychedelics-cure-lxqulz/

-D

On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

I know a guy who grows a variety of magic shrooms, purely as a hobby of course. 
I myself have not sampled any but I understand they are quite interesting

--FT
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On Dec 24, 2022, at 7:43 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

I’ll try this again with an attachment so people can see the image…”Magic 
blend"

-D

[cid:E6D9BC14-8679-4A75-8652-59D37FBF42CF]

On Dec 24, 2022, at 7:35 PM, dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Better yet, pop into Oakland, CA where fungi are legal. Here’s a label off of 
one of the edibles:

[cid:D4CC4832-ACE1-4936-9A9D-6B36F5748FF6]

-D


On Dec 24, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Curt Raymond 
mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>>
 wrote:

I do. A friend gave us some gummy things, they were interesting...

Curt

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On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 9:20 PM, dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:
And who lives in a state where recreational use is legal???

-D

On Dec 23, 2022, at 9:15 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Yeah…I absolutely remember how good music sounded while stoned.

AZBob, hit the weed hard in to ‘70s, haven’t imbibed since 1979.

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On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Yes my memories of some of those listening sessions are somewhat hazy

--FT
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On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:53 PM, dan 
penoff.com via 
Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. From 
what I can recall, that is.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I know a guy who grows a variety of magic shrooms, purely as a hobby of course. 
I myself have not sampled any but I understand they are quite interesting 

--FT
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> On Dec 24, 2022, at 7:43 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’ll try this again with an attachment so people can see the image…”Magic 
> blend"
> 
> -D
> 
> [cid:E6D9BC14-8679-4A75-8652-59D37FBF42CF]
> 
> On Dec 24, 2022, at 7:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Better yet, pop into Oakland, CA where fungi are legal. Here’s a label off of 
> one of the edibles:
> 
> [cid:D4CC4832-ACE1-4936-9A9D-6B36F5748FF6]
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Curt Raymond 
> mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> I do. A friend gave us some gummy things, they were interesting...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on 
> Android
> 
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 9:20 PM, dan 
> penoff.com via Mercedes
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> And who lives in a state where recreational use is legal???
> 
> -D
> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 9:15 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah…I absolutely remember how good music sounded while stoned.
> 
> AZBob, hit the weed hard in to ‘70s, haven’t imbibed since 1979.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes my memories of some of those listening sessions are somewhat hazy
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:53 PM, dan 
> penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. From 
> what I can recall, that is.
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I do. A friend gave us some gummy things, they were interesting...
Curt

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  On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 9:20 PM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   And who lives in a state where 
recreational use is legal???

-D

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 9:15 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah…I absolutely remember how good music sounded while stoned. 
> 
> AZBob, hit the weed hard in to ‘70s, haven’t imbibed since 1979.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes my memories of some of those listening sessions are somewhat hazy
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:53 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. 
>>> From what I can recall, that is.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 I think that’s the one he had although my memory might be getting 
 suggested by that listing 
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Best friend in high school had a dad who was a very successful law 
> practice. Their house had the requisite “conversation pit’ of the time. 
> He had a Pioneer quad system professionally installed around the “pit”.
> 
> He lived close to school so we would often go over there at lunch and 
> listed to the few things that were released in quad, the one I can recall 
> was “Victim of Love” by the Eagles.
> 
> It was a bit of a gimmick. Sounded cool, but I don’t think it was 
> practical.
> 
> On a related note, I saw a quadrophonic Pioneer receiver on FBM today, 
> the one that had the “oscilloscope” display to “tune” the system.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/640855280582333/
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A buddy in my dorm had some money I think in a trust after his dad died, 
>> and he was in the Natural Guard too so made some $$ from that. He was 
>> always upgrading his hifi system. 
>> 
>> Quadrophonic came out and he bought a system. Some huge receiver putting 
>> out a couple hundred watts, a quad turntable, and 4 Heil Air Motion 
>> Transformer speakers which were pretty huge. All this in like a 10x12 
>> dorm room.
>> 
>> The speakers were truncated pyramids with the woofer in the bottom then 
>> this vertical omnidirectional speaker in the top. 
>> 
>> It was “surround” sound at the time and certain albums were remastered 
>> for the four channel aspect. It sounded really cool but after awhile was 
>> kinda tedious. The room was too small to really get the full effect but 
>> he got married and moved into a campus apartment that had a larger 
>> living room and it was marginally better. 
>> 
>> I think the fad passed but he hung onto the system for quite some time. 
>> There were never too many quad recordings but it played stereo quite 
>> well and there was some “simulate” setting. 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I had a 1960 VW barn door van in high school, but it was painted olive drab. 
Otherwise, pretty much dead on.

-D

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 11:17 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Me. A few decades ago.
> 
> https://youtu.be/bdMAu-AYMGo
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: December 23, 2022 8:16 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before
> 
> Yeah…I absolutely remember how good music sounded while stoned.
> 
> AZBob, hit the weed hard in to ‘70s, haven’t imbibed since 1979.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes my memories of some of those listening sessions are somewhat hazy
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:53 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. 
>>> From what I can recall, that is.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think that’s the one he had although my memory might be getting 
>>>> suggested by that listing
>>>> 
>>>> --FT
>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best friend in high school had a dad who was a very successful law 
>>>>> practice. Their house had the requisite “conversation pit’ of the time. 
>>>>> He had a Pioneer quad system professionally installed around the “pit”.
>>>>> 
>>>>> He lived close to school so we would often go over there at lunch and 
>>>>> listed to the few things that were released in quad, the one I can recall 
>>>>> was “Victim of Love” by the Eagles.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It was a bit of a gimmick. Sounded cool, but I don’t think it was 
>>>>> practical.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On a related note, I saw a quadrophonic Pioneer receiver on FBM today, 
>>>>> the one that had the “oscilloscope” display to “tune” the system.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/640855280582333/
>>>>> 
>>>>> -D
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A buddy in my dorm had some money I think in a trust after his dad died, 
>>>>>> and he was in the Natural Guard too so made some $$ from that. He was 
>>>>>> always upgrading his hifi system.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Quadrophonic came out and he bought a system. Some huge receiver putting 
>>>>>> out a couple hundred watts, a quad turntable, and 4 Heil Air Motion 
>>>>>> Transformer speakers which were pretty huge. All this in like a 10x12 
>>>>>> dorm room.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The speakers were truncated pyramids with the woofer in the bottom then 
>>>>>> this vertical omnidirectional speaker in the top.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It was “surround” sound at the time and certain albums were remastered 
>>>>>> for the four channel aspect. It sounded really cool but after awhile was 
>>>>>> kinda tedious. The room was too small to really get the full effect but 
>>>>>> he got married and moved into a campus apartment that had a larger 
>>>>>> living room and it was marginally better.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think the fad passed but he hung onto the system for quite some time. 
>>>>>> There were never too many quad recordings but it played stereo quite 
>>>>>> well and there was some “simulate” setting.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Me. A few decades ago.

https://youtu.be/bdMAu-AYMGo


Rick

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

Yeah…I absolutely remember how good music sounded while stoned.

AZBob, hit the weed hard in to ‘70s, haven’t imbibed since 1979.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Yes my memories of some of those listening sessions are somewhat hazy
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:53 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. 
>> From what I can recall, that is.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that’s the one he had although my memory might be getting suggested 
>>> by that listing
>>>
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>
>>>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Best friend in high school had a dad who was a very successful law 
>>>> practice. Their house had the requisite “conversation pit’ of the time. He 
>>>> had a Pioneer quad system professionally installed around the “pit”.
>>>>
>>>> He lived close to school so we would often go over there at lunch and 
>>>> listed to the few things that were released in quad, the one I can recall 
>>>> was “Victim of Love” by the Eagles.
>>>>
>>>> It was a bit of a gimmick. Sounded cool, but I don’t think it was 
>>>> practical.
>>>>
>>>> On a related note, I saw a quadrophonic Pioneer receiver on FBM today, the 
>>>> one that had the “oscilloscope” display to “tune” the system.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/640855280582333/
>>>>
>>>> -D
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A buddy in my dorm had some money I think in a trust after his dad died, 
>>>>> and he was in the Natural Guard too so made some $$ from that. He was 
>>>>> always upgrading his hifi system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quadrophonic came out and he bought a system. Some huge receiver putting 
>>>>> out a couple hundred watts, a quad turntable, and 4 Heil Air Motion 
>>>>> Transformer speakers which were pretty huge. All this in like a 10x12 
>>>>> dorm room.
>>>>>
>>>>> The speakers were truncated pyramids with the woofer in the bottom then 
>>>>> this vertical omnidirectional speaker in the top.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was “surround” sound at the time and certain albums were remastered 
>>>>> for the four channel aspect. It sounded really cool but after awhile was 
>>>>> kinda tedious. The room was too small to really get the full effect but 
>>>>> he got married and moved into a campus apartment that had a larger living 
>>>>> room and it was marginally better.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the fad passed but he hung onto the system for quite some time. 
>>>>> There were never too many quad recordings but it played stereo quite well 
>>>>> and there was some “simulate” setting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

One word:  gummies

--FT
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> On Dec 23, 2022, at 9:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah…I absolutely remember how good music sounded while stoned. 
> 
> AZBob, hit the weed hard in to ‘70s, haven’t imbibed since 1979.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes my memories of some of those listening sessions are somewhat hazy
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:53 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. 
>>> From what I can recall, that is.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 I think that’s the one he had although my memory might be getting 
 suggested by that listing 
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Best friend in high school had a dad who was a very successful law 
> practice. Their house had the requisite “conversation pit’ of the time. 
> He had a Pioneer quad system professionally installed around the “pit”.
> 
> He lived close to school so we would often go over there at lunch and 
> listed to the few things that were released in quad, the one I can recall 
> was “Victim of Love” by the Eagles.
> 
> It was a bit of a gimmick. Sounded cool, but I don’t think it was 
> practical.
> 
> On a related note, I saw a quadrophonic Pioneer receiver on FBM today, 
> the one that had the “oscilloscope” display to “tune” the system.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/640855280582333/
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A buddy in my dorm had some money I think in a trust after his dad died, 
>> and he was in the Natural Guard too so made some $$ from that. He was 
>> always upgrading his hifi system. 
>> 
>> Quadrophonic came out and he bought a system. Some huge receiver putting 
>> out a couple hundred watts, a quad turntable, and 4 Heil Air Motion 
>> Transformer speakers which were pretty huge. All this in like a 10x12 
>> dorm room.
>> 
>> The speakers were truncated pyramids with the woofer in the bottom then 
>> this vertical omnidirectional speaker in the top. 
>> 
>> It was “surround” sound at the time and certain albums were remastered 
>> for the four channel aspect. It sounded really cool but after awhile was 
>> kinda tedious. The room was too small to really get the full effect but 
>> he got married and moved into a campus apartment that had a larger 
>> living room and it was marginally better. 
>> 
>> I think the fad passed but he hung onto the system for quite some time. 
>> There were never too many quad recordings but it played stereo quite 
>> well and there was some “simulate” setting. 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

And who lives in a state where recreational use is legal???

-D

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 9:15 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah…I absolutely remember how good music sounded while stoned. 
> 
> AZBob, hit the weed hard in to ‘70s, haven’t imbibed since 1979.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes my memories of some of those listening sessions are somewhat hazy
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:53 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. 
>>> From what I can recall, that is.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 I think that’s the one he had although my memory might be getting 
 suggested by that listing 
 
 --FT
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>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Best friend in high school had a dad who was a very successful law 
> practice. Their house had the requisite “conversation pit’ of the time. 
> He had a Pioneer quad system professionally installed around the “pit”.
> 
> He lived close to school so we would often go over there at lunch and 
> listed to the few things that were released in quad, the one I can recall 
> was “Victim of Love” by the Eagles.
> 
> It was a bit of a gimmick. Sounded cool, but I don’t think it was 
> practical.
> 
> On a related note, I saw a quadrophonic Pioneer receiver on FBM today, 
> the one that had the “oscilloscope” display to “tune” the system.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/640855280582333/
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A buddy in my dorm had some money I think in a trust after his dad died, 
>> and he was in the Natural Guard too so made some $$ from that. He was 
>> always upgrading his hifi system. 
>> 
>> Quadrophonic came out and he bought a system. Some huge receiver putting 
>> out a couple hundred watts, a quad turntable, and 4 Heil Air Motion 
>> Transformer speakers which were pretty huge. All this in like a 10x12 
>> dorm room.
>> 
>> The speakers were truncated pyramids with the woofer in the bottom then 
>> this vertical omnidirectional speaker in the top. 
>> 
>> It was “surround” sound at the time and certain albums were remastered 
>> for the four channel aspect. It sounded really cool but after awhile was 
>> kinda tedious. The room was too small to really get the full effect but 
>> he got married and moved into a campus apartment that had a larger 
>> living room and it was marginally better. 
>> 
>> I think the fad passed but he hung onto the system for quite some time. 
>> There were never too many quad recordings but it played stereo quite 
>> well and there was some “simulate” setting. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

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Yeah…I absolutely remember how good music sounded while stoned. 

AZBob, hit the weed hard in to ‘70s, haven’t imbibed since 1979.  

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> On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes my memories of some of those listening sessions are somewhat hazy
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:53 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. 
>> From what I can recall, that is.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that’s the one he had although my memory might be getting suggested 
>>> by that listing 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Best friend in high school had a dad who was a very successful law 
 practice. Their house had the requisite “conversation pit’ of the time. He 
 had a Pioneer quad system professionally installed around the “pit”.
 
 He lived close to school so we would often go over there at lunch and 
 listed to the few things that were released in quad, the one I can recall 
 was “Victim of Love” by the Eagles.
 
 It was a bit of a gimmick. Sounded cool, but I don’t think it was 
 practical.
 
 On a related note, I saw a quadrophonic Pioneer receiver on FBM today, the 
 one that had the “oscilloscope” display to “tune” the system.
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/640855280582333/
 
 -D
 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A buddy in my dorm had some money I think in a trust after his dad died, 
> and he was in the Natural Guard too so made some $$ from that. He was 
> always upgrading his hifi system. 
> 
> Quadrophonic came out and he bought a system. Some huge receiver putting 
> out a couple hundred watts, a quad turntable, and 4 Heil Air Motion 
> Transformer speakers which were pretty huge. All this in like a 10x12 
> dorm room.
> 
> The speakers were truncated pyramids with the woofer in the bottom then 
> this vertical omnidirectional speaker in the top. 
> 
> It was “surround” sound at the time and certain albums were remastered 
> for the four channel aspect. It sounded really cool but after awhile was 
> kinda tedious. The room was too small to really get the full effect but 
> he got married and moved into a campus apartment that had a larger living 
> room and it was marginally better. 
> 
> I think the fad passed but he hung onto the system for quite some time. 
> There were never too many quad recordings but it played stereo quite well 
> and there was some “simulate” setting. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yes my memories of some of those listening sessions are somewhat hazy

--FT
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> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:53 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. From 
> what I can recall, that is.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think that’s the one he had although my memory might be getting suggested 
>> by that listing 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Best friend in high school had a dad who was a very successful law 
>>> practice. Their house had the requisite “conversation pit’ of the time. He 
>>> had a Pioneer quad system professionally installed around the “pit”.
>>> 
>>> He lived close to school so we would often go over there at lunch and 
>>> listed to the few things that were released in quad, the one I can recall 
>>> was “Victim of Love” by the Eagles.
>>> 
>>> It was a bit of a gimmick. Sounded cool, but I don’t think it was practical.
>>> 
>>> On a related note, I saw a quadrophonic Pioneer receiver on FBM today, the 
>>> one that had the “oscilloscope” display to “tune” the system.
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/640855280582333/
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 A buddy in my dorm had some money I think in a trust after his dad died, 
 and he was in the Natural Guard too so made some $$ from that. He was 
 always upgrading his hifi system. 
 
 Quadrophonic came out and he bought a system. Some huge receiver putting 
 out a couple hundred watts, a quad turntable, and 4 Heil Air Motion 
 Transformer speakers which were pretty huge. All this in like a 10x12 dorm 
 room.
 
 The speakers were truncated pyramids with the woofer in the bottom then 
 this vertical omnidirectional speaker in the top. 
 
 It was “surround” sound at the time and certain albums were remastered for 
 the four channel aspect. It sounded really cool but after awhile was kinda 
 tedious. The room was too small to really get the full effect but he got 
 married and moved into a campus apartment that had a larger living room 
 and it was marginally better. 
 
 I think the fad passed but he hung onto the system for quite some time. 
 There were never too many quad recordings but it played stereo quite well 
 and there was some “simulate” setting. 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

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Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. From 
what I can recall, that is.

-D

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think that’s the one he had although my memory might be getting suggested 
> by that listing 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Best friend in high school had a dad who was a very successful law 
>> practice. Their house had the requisite “conversation pit’ of the time. He 
>> had a Pioneer quad system professionally installed around the “pit”.
>> 
>> He lived close to school so we would often go over there at lunch and listed 
>> to the few things that were released in quad, the one I can recall was 
>> “Victim of Love” by the Eagles.
>> 
>> It was a bit of a gimmick. Sounded cool, but I don’t think it was practical.
>> 
>> On a related note, I saw a quadrophonic Pioneer receiver on FBM today, the 
>> one that had the “oscilloscope” display to “tune” the system.
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/640855280582333/
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A buddy in my dorm had some money I think in a trust after his dad died, 
>>> and he was in the Natural Guard too so made some $$ from that. He was 
>>> always upgrading his hifi system. 
>>> 
>>> Quadrophonic came out and he bought a system. Some huge receiver putting 
>>> out a couple hundred watts, a quad turntable, and 4 Heil Air Motion 
>>> Transformer speakers which were pretty huge. All this in like a 10x12 dorm 
>>> room.
>>> 
>>> The speakers were truncated pyramids with the woofer in the bottom then 
>>> this vertical omnidirectional speaker in the top. 
>>> 
>>> It was “surround” sound at the time and certain albums were remastered for 
>>> the four channel aspect. It sounded really cool but after awhile was kinda 
>>> tedious. The room was too small to really get the full effect but he got 
>>> married and moved into a campus apartment that had a larger living room and 
>>> it was marginally better. 
>>> 
>>> I think the fad passed but he hung onto the system for quite some time. 
>>> There were never too many quad recordings but it played stereo quite well 
>>> and there was some “simulate” setting. 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I think that’s the one he had although my memory might be getting suggested by 
that listing 

--FT
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> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Best friend in high school had a dad who was a very successful law practice. 
> Their house had the requisite “conversation pit’ of the time. He had a 
> Pioneer quad system professionally installed around the “pit”.
> 
> He lived close to school so we would often go over there at lunch and listed 
> to the few things that were released in quad, the one I can recall was 
> “Victim of Love” by the Eagles.
> 
> It was a bit of a gimmick. Sounded cool, but I don’t think it was practical.
> 
> On a related note, I saw a quadrophonic Pioneer receiver on FBM today, the 
> one that had the “oscilloscope” display to “tune” the system.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/640855280582333/
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A buddy in my dorm had some money I think in a trust after his dad died, and 
>> he was in the Natural Guard too so made some $$ from that. He was always 
>> upgrading his hifi system. 
>> 
>> Quadrophonic came out and he bought a system. Some huge receiver putting out 
>> a couple hundred watts, a quad turntable, and 4 Heil Air Motion Transformer 
>> speakers which were pretty huge. All this in like a 10x12 dorm room.
>> 
>> The speakers were truncated pyramids with the woofer in the bottom then this 
>> vertical omnidirectional speaker in the top. 
>> 
>> It was “surround” sound at the time and certain albums were remastered for 
>> the four channel aspect. It sounded really cool but after awhile was kinda 
>> tedious. The room was too small to really get the full effect but he got 
>> married and moved into a campus apartment that had a larger living room and 
>> it was marginally better. 
>> 
>> I think the fad passed but he hung onto the system for quite some time. 
>> There were never too many quad recordings but it played stereo quite well 
>> and there was some “simulate” setting. 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Best friend in high school had a dad who was a very successful law practice. 
Their house had the requisite “conversation pit’ of the time. He had a Pioneer 
quad system professionally installed around the “pit”.

He lived close to school so we would often go over there at lunch and listed to 
the few things that were released in quad, the one I can recall was “Victim of 
Love” by the Eagles.

It was a bit of a gimmick. Sounded cool, but I don’t think it was practical.

On a related note, I saw a quadrophonic Pioneer receiver on FBM today, the one 
that had the “oscilloscope” display to “tune” the system.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/640855280582333/

-D

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A buddy in my dorm had some money I think in a trust after his dad died, and 
> he was in the Natural Guard too so made some $$ from that. He was always 
> upgrading his hifi system. 
> 
> Quadrophonic came out and he bought a system. Some huge receiver putting out 
> a couple hundred watts, a quad turntable, and 4 Heil Air Motion Transformer 
> speakers which were pretty huge. All this in like a 10x12 dorm room.
> 
> The speakers were truncated pyramids with the woofer in the bottom then this 
> vertical omnidirectional speaker in the top. 
> 
> It was “surround” sound at the time and certain albums were remastered for 
> the four channel aspect. It sounded really cool but after awhile was kinda 
> tedious. The room was too small to really get the full effect but he got 
> married and moved into a campus apartment that had a larger living room and 
> it was marginally better. 
> 
> I think the fad passed but he hung onto the system for quite some time. There 
> were never too many quad recordings but it played stereo quite well and there 
> was some “simulate” setting. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Vintage Audio has far more than it’s share of BS,  I personally think much of 
the “high end” equipment is high end because it costs so much, and much of it 
is pure fashion (or more bluntly, affectation, like using a monocle or wearing 
spats).

This attitude is also a problem in the “hot rod” arena, where people tend to 
argue endlessly about the work they have done for them.  Actual hands on hot 
rod guys are pretty rare now, and average 75 in age.

All part of the fun, I guess.

I’ve still got the stuff I bought in 1982, and after the umpteeth repair on the 
amp, I’ve replaced it.  Bad design (up side down main board runs WAY too hot).  
Sonically it’s as good as anything out there, but then I don’t believe there 
are all that many differences in audio equipment made past 1974 or so.

I do all my own electronics work, although I probably know just enough about it 
to be dangerous.

I’m becoming an old grump.

Peter

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 4:09 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> People still pay stupid money for vintage audio. I dabbled some years back 
> when I came into possession of a Fisher receiver, a Soundcraftsman equalizer 
> and power amp and a pair of Magnepan planar speakers, but it didn’t take long 
> for me to realize that a car hobby would be far less expensive and probably 
> more fulfilling and practical. I re-capped the Fisher and sold it at a nice 
> profit along with all the other stuff. I will say the Magnepan speakers were 
> pretty amazing if they were in the right space. The average home listening 
> room was not the right space, however.
> 
> If people think Porsche enthusiasts are snobby and pretentious, they haven’t 
> been around hard core high end audio people. Oy!
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I also have a United Audio turntable. Can't recall but probably picked it
>> up for $10 at a yard sale.  Seems to work OK.  No idea of its true value.
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 4:46 PM greg via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
 Is Marantz still the best name in tuners?
 
>>> 
>>> I believe they were bought out and their current stuff is not anything
>>> special. My brother had a good friend who was an engineer for Marantz back
>>> in the day. He picked out a tuner that tested nearly perfect which is now
>>> in my brother's possession.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

A buddy in my dorm had some money I think in a trust after his dad died, and he 
was in the Natural Guard too so made some $$ from that. He was always upgrading 
his hifi system. 

Quadrophonic came out and he bought a system. Some huge receiver putting out a 
couple hundred watts, a quad turntable, and 4 Heil Air Motion Transformer 
speakers which were pretty huge. All this in like a 10x12 dorm room.

The speakers were truncated pyramids with the woofer in the bottom then this 
vertical omnidirectional speaker in the top. 

It was “surround” sound at the time and certain albums were remastered for the 
four channel aspect. It sounded really cool but after awhile was kinda tedious. 
The room was too small to really get the full effect but he got married and 
moved into a campus apartment that had a larger living room and it was 
marginally better. 

I think the fad passed but he hung onto the system for quite some time. There 
were never too many quad recordings but it played stereo quite well and there 
was some “simulate” setting. 


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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

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I have a pair of DCM Time Frames on the 70” TV in the family room. Thanks to MI 
Mitch for pointing them out to me on eBay or CL (I can’t recall which one) so I 
could snag them.

A Denon AV receiver drives them and handles all the switching between the TV, 
Apple TV, BluRay and OTA inputs. Can’t recall the brand of subwoofer that’s 
used, suffice to say it does the job.

We had a Bose surround sound system in a former house. I was never impressed 
enough to bother with the surround sound stuff (much less, Bose speakers) so 
it’s just basic stereo with a subwoofer here.

-D

On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:36 PM, Jim Cathey 
mailto:jim.cathey...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you’re looking for theatrical surround sound that shakes your seats they’re 
not the choice, or you augment them with a subwoofer.

Several good speakers can be described that way, including the DCM Time Frames 
I use in the listening room.
I have a bi-amped (through a Richter Scale crossover) subwoofer to handle the 
lowest octave.  It dates from the
early eighties, and is rarely turned on.  As is the stereo, these days.

Our main listening, now, is through the AppleTV and the Panny plasma TV.  I 
tapped into its speaker
drivers years ago, and have a pair of Radio Shack Minimus 7 speakers hooked to 
it.  Those are, and
always were, surprisingly decent for their size, availability, and price.

Sidetrack: most covers of classic songs suck.  This is one that I think is 
considerably _better_ than
the original:

4:20Disturbed - The Sound Of Silence [Official Music Video]YouTube · Disturbed4 
minutes, 20 seconds · Dec 8, 
2015

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> If you’re looking for theatrical surround sound that shakes your seats 
> they’re not the choice, or you augment them with a subwoofer.

Several good speakers can be described that way, including the DCM Time Frames 
I use in the listening room.
I have a bi-amped (through a Richter Scale crossover) subwoofer to handle the 
lowest octave.  It dates from the
early eighties, and is rarely turned on.  As is the stereo, these days.

Our main listening, now, is through the AppleTV and the Panny plasma TV.  I 
tapped into its speaker
drivers years ago, and have a pair of Radio Shack Minimus 7 speakers hooked to 
it.  Those are, and
always were, surprisingly decent for their size, availability, and price.

Sidetrack: most covers of classic songs suck.  This is one that I think is 
considerably _better_ than
the original:

4:20Disturbed - The Sound Of Silence [Official Music Video]YouTube · Disturbed4 
minutes, 20 seconds · Dec 8, 2015 


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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Found some pictures of one:

https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-1970s-Heathkit-Spotter-Model/dp/B06XY6HD7J

Looks like there are a bunch on eBay - the shipping is more than the ask, too.

-D

On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:17 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Heathkit fish finder It had a rotating disk with a Nixie tube on it or 
something like that

Ah, we had one too.  I'd forgotten about it.  Very simple device.  Just a 
spinning disk with
a neon lamp mounted at the rim, coupled through two carbon brushes on the axle. 
 The
circuit would 'ping' the transducer at 12 o'clock, and then the amplifier 
listened to the
transducer and would light the lamp again when it heard the reflection from the 
bottom.
The angle the lamp had rotated corresponded to the depth of the water.  In 
theory if
there was a school of fish you'd get a little flicker somewhere between the 
ping and the
bottom reflection point.  I can't ever recall seeing 'fish' indication, though. 
 Merely depth.
The disk had two rotating speeds, the slower was for deeper water.

It always worked perfectly for us.  That is, it never didn't do what it was 
supposed to do.
Such as it was.  I might even have it still, somewhere in storage.  I have the 
boat, anyway...

Remembering the Schenkendorf, and its Perpetuum Ebner turntable, it was always a
far better radio than anything else.  Shortwave worked well, as did the AM/FM 
bands.
The LW (longwave) band never had anything on it.  The tweeter speakers were 
truly
dreadful, piezoelectric things.  I had procured a schematic for it, which I 
stored under
the radio chassis.  Gone too, now.  The fire burned hot, the only recognizable 
remains
were the piano-key switch matrix, which was of steel.  The turntable, mostly 
pot metal,
disappeared.  As did all the glass, the tubes...

When you slid the door over to expose the liquor cabinet, and turned on the 
light, it was
tres elegant, ala Perry Mason.  We never had a liquor collection to speak of, 
nor parties
of that sort as I recall.

My most strong memory of it was the truly god-awful scratching/screeching it 
made when
you cycled the Mono/Stereo switch.  That was a multi-gang mechanical switch 
that split
the Class B audio amplifier in half, into two Class A amplifiers so that the 
turntable could
play stereo.  You had to remember to turn the volume all the way down before 
you touched
that switch, or else!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Agreed. You really have to have the right space for them and place them 
properly. There’s a guy who lives close to me that has trafficked in planar 
speakers of all flavors who I connected with at the time (he still does it, I 
see his stuff on FBM occasionally). He gave me a lot of good advice and even 
came by the house one day to make suggestions on placement. I really didn’t 
have the space for them, but we got them sounding pretty good with a little 
tinkering. The sound “space” you get out of them is amazing. There’s no 
comparison with paper cone speakers.

That and they don’t do much for the low end, as well as requiring some serious 
wattage to work. If you’re looking for theatrical surround sound that shakes 
your seats they’re not the choice, or you augment them with a subwoofer.

-D

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 5:56 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Magnepan speakers were pretty amazing if they were in the right space. The 
>> average home listening room was not the right space, however.
> 
> Planar speakers like those work very well, and are quite fussy as to room 
> dimensions and placement.
> But if you can set them up right, little can beat them for accurate sound.  
> (Hint: they have to be out
> in the middle, with plenty of space behind and around them.  Audiophile Feng 
> Shui: place the speakers
> first, then the listening chair, then everything else.)
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Heathkit fish finder It had a rotating disk with a Nixie tube on it or 
> something like that

Ah, we had one too.  I'd forgotten about it.  Very simple device.  Just a 
spinning disk with
a neon lamp mounted at the rim, coupled through two carbon brushes on the axle. 
 The
circuit would 'ping' the transducer at 12 o'clock, and then the amplifier 
listened to the
transducer and would light the lamp again when it heard the reflection from the 
bottom.
The angle the lamp had rotated corresponded to the depth of the water.  In 
theory if
there was a school of fish you'd get a little flicker somewhere between the 
ping and the
bottom reflection point.  I can't ever recall seeing 'fish' indication, though. 
 Merely depth.
The disk had two rotating speeds, the slower was for deeper water.

It always worked perfectly for us.  That is, it never didn't do what it was 
supposed to do.
Such as it was.  I might even have it still, somewhere in storage.  I have the 
boat, anyway...

Remembering the Schenkendorf, and its Perpetuum Ebner turntable, it was always a
far better radio than anything else.  Shortwave worked well, as did the AM/FM 
bands.
The LW (longwave) band never had anything on it.  The tweeter speakers were 
truly
dreadful, piezoelectric things.  I had procured a schematic for it, which I 
stored under
the radio chassis.  Gone too, now.  The fire burned hot, the only recognizable 
remains
were the piano-key switch matrix, which was of steel.  The turntable, mostly 
pot metal,
disappeared.  As did all the glass, the tubes...

When you slid the door over to expose the liquor cabinet, and turned on the 
light, it was
tres elegant, ala Perry Mason.  We never had a liquor collection to speak of, 
nor parties
of that sort as I recall.

My most strong memory of it was the truly god-awful scratching/screeching it 
made when
you cycled the Mono/Stereo switch.  That was a multi-gang mechanical switch 
that split
the Class B audio amplifier in half, into two Class A amplifiers so that the 
turntable could
play stereo.  You had to remember to turn the volume all the way down before 
you touched
that switch, or else!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Magnepan speakers were pretty amazing if they were in the right space. The 
> average home listening room was not the right space, however.

Planar speakers like those work very well, and are quite fussy as to room 
dimensions and placement.
But if you can set them up right, little can beat them for accurate sound.  
(Hint: they have to be out
in the middle, with plenty of space behind and around them.  Audiophile Feng 
Shui: place the speakers
first, then the listening chair, then everything else.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

People still pay stupid money for vintage audio. I dabbled some years back when 
I came into possession of a Fisher receiver, a Soundcraftsman equalizer and 
power amp and a pair of Magnepan planar speakers, but it didn’t take long for 
me to realize that a car hobby would be far less expensive and probably more 
fulfilling and practical. I re-capped the Fisher and sold it at a nice profit 
along with all the other stuff. I will say the Magnepan speakers were pretty 
amazing if they were in the right space. The average home listening room was 
not the right space, however.

If people think Porsche enthusiasts are snobby and pretentious, they haven’t 
been around hard core high end audio people. Oy!

-D

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I also have a United Audio turntable. Can't recall but probably picked it
> up for $10 at a yard sale.  Seems to work OK.  No idea of its true value.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 4:46 PM greg via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>>> Is Marantz still the best name in tuners?
>>> 
>> 
>> I believe they were bought out and their current stuff is not anything
>> special. My brother had a good friend who was an engineer for Marantz back
>> in the day. He picked out a tuner that tested nearly perfect which is now
>> in my brother's possession.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Here is the RCA that was my grandmothers, it had all 4 speeds. I need to find 
somebody that can work on it. I did find a place that works in vintage 
equipment but the reviews all seem to talk about high end stuff rather that 
these things. 



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> On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:06 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The great aunt’s Zenith played 78s, of which she had a bunch. I specifically 
> recall Doris Day’s rendition of “Put ‘em in a box, tie ‘em with a ribbon” 
> being one of her 78s.
> 
> -D
> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow I've never heard of 16 RPM records. Were they common? I'm guessing 
>>> maybe they were for spoken word/audio-book type stuff?
>> 
>> Exactly.  Not common at all, I'm not sure I ever saw one, except _perhaps_ 
>> once
>> in grade school they played one that had some kind of pedagogical crap on 
>> it...
>> 
>> It was a rare phonograph, even back then, that had all four speeds on it.
>> (78, 45, 33, 16)
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

My dad was an electronics engineer (ITT Fort Wayne!). He was always screwing 
around with our various tube TVs and some old tube radio that was fairly 
ancient. I remember going with him to an “electronics” shop in town that had 
millions of tubes in this old building, shelves floor to ceiling. It had a 
coupla testers. That stuff was a total mystery to me but somehow he knew what 
tubes were bad in the innards. 

I remember he built a Heathkit fish finder at some point. Took forever but the 
thing actually worked pretty well, at least it appeared to though I’m not sure 
it increased fish production.  You stuck the hydrophone or sonar or whatever 
the sensor was in the water. It had a rotating disk with a Nixie tube on it or 
something like that that would flash at the appropriate “depth” marking. It was 
not particularly reliable though as he was always messing with it and at some 
point I think he gave up on it. 

My parents bought some huge console stereo thing back in the 60s that was about 
6ft long. Magnavox I think, they were a big factory in town and some of his 
college buddies worked there.  Sounded like crap. I got a little Sony cassette 
deck at some point and managed to hook it up (undocumented aux inputs!) and 
between the hiss of the cassettes and the crappy speakers it also sounded like 
shite. But it was fun. I think I had put a cassette deck in my car by then so 
recorded albums to play in it. 

I was in college and one summer I bought a nice Pioneer receiver and large 
Advents (still using them for my TV sound after refining ages ago)) and he 
groused and complained that the system “didn’t look nice.”  I pointed out that 
it sounded a lot better though and that was what mattered. He was not 
convinced. I was home for the summer and set it up in the living room to listen 
to. He refused to touch it until I came home one day and it was tuned to an 
“easy listening “ FM station he liked. Too funny. I said something about it 
that evening and he grumbled that well he thought he might try it out. Then at 
Christmas he got me a really nice Pioneer turntable (I still have that and 
should set it up too and play some vinyl) and I gave him a hard time that “it 
didn’t look nice” and he allowed well he wouldn’t have to look at it much since 
I would be away at school most of the time. I caught him playing his Mantovani 
and Perry Como records on it though. I might still have those boxed up. 

Damn this was all like 50yr ago now. The receiver has a bad channel on it and 
cuts in and out or doesn’t work at all. Probably components have failed. It 
started doing that after it was maybe 8yo. Nice unit though. 

--FT
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> On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I remember back in the day when the Radio Shack at the mall had a vacuum 
> tube tester.
> 
> I forget, am I the youngest on the list? Gotta be close...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:50:04 PM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yup, seen lots like that or similar over the years.
> 
> These often ended up at my house when I was a kid because I was the one in 
> the family who could “fix stuff”. I was very adept at replacing blown 
> capacitors and testing tubes at the local drugstore…
> 
> I had a smaller Zenith cabinet style stereo form my great aunt’s estate that 
> was in my bedroom for all of my teen years. I remember it well, as while it 
> wasn’t stereo, it had a much warmer sound that all of that transistor-based 
> stuff did. Still have the “Tibet Almond Stick” that came with it for touching 
> up scratches on the cabinet:
> 
> [cid:E7EBB06C-BC81-48AB-8A23-5DF188450CA3]
> 
> -D
> 
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> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I think both of mine have a 16 setting, but I have never seen a 16rpm record 
before. 

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> On Dec 23, 2022, at 11:53 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow I've never heard of 16 RPM records. Were they common? I'm guessing maybe 
> they were for spoken word/audio-book type stuff?
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 11:43, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> Back when your sound system was furniture.
>> 
>> My parents have an old radio/record player combo in their basement that 
>> is similar though not as big. Someday when the house on the great 
>> northern estate is more finished I'll take it up there. Hopefully the 
>> moisture of the basement hasn't completely ruined the electrics. It was 
>> a good record player, did 16, 33, 45 and 78 rpm. Not stereo though.
>> 
>> I'd like to restore whats there and add speakers and a bluetooth 
>> receiver so it could have a modern music player hidden inside.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Mercedes  wrote: 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Marantz is probably held in less esteem/regard than it was in the past, but 
their tube equipment still commands high prices from audiophiles.

-D

On Dec 23, 2022, at 2:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Is Marantz still the best name in tuners?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 2:06 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
The great aunt’s Zenith played 78s, of which she had a bunch. I specifically 
recall Doris Day’s rendition of “Put ‘em in a box, tie ‘em with a ribbon” being 
one of her 78s.

-D

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
>> Wow I've never heard of 16 RPM records. Were they common? I'm guessing maybe 
>> they were for spoken word/audio-book type stuff?
>
> Exactly.  Not common at all, I'm not sure I ever saw one, except _perhaps_ 
> once
> in grade school they played one that had some kind of pedagogical crap on 
> it...
>
> It was a rare phonograph, even back then, that had all four speeds on it.
> (78, 45, 33, 16)
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Is Marantz still the best name in tuners?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 2:06 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The great aunt’s Zenith played 78s, of which she had a bunch. I
> specifically recall Doris Day’s rendition of “Put ‘em in a box, tie ‘em
> with a ribbon” being one of her 78s.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Wow I've never heard of 16 RPM records. Were they common? I'm guessing
> maybe they were for spoken word/audio-book type stuff?
> >
> > Exactly.  Not common at all, I'm not sure I ever saw one, except
> _perhaps_ once
> > in grade school they played one that had some kind of pedagogical crap
> on it...
> >
> > It was a rare phonograph, even back then, that had all four speeds on it.
> > (78, 45, 33, 16)
> >
> > -- Jim
> >
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[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

The great aunt’s Zenith played 78s, of which she had a bunch. I specifically 
recall Doris Day’s rendition of “Put ‘em in a box, tie ‘em with a ribbon” being 
one of her 78s.

-D

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Wow I've never heard of 16 RPM records. Were they common? I'm guessing maybe 
>> they were for spoken word/audio-book type stuff?
> 
> Exactly.  Not common at all, I'm not sure I ever saw one, except _perhaps_ 
> once
> in grade school they played one that had some kind of pedagogical crap on 
> it...
> 
> It was a rare phonograph, even back then, that had all four speeds on it.
> (78, 45, 33, 16)
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Wow I've never heard of 16 RPM records. Were they common? I'm guessing maybe 
> they were for spoken word/audio-book type stuff?

Exactly.  Not common at all, I'm not sure I ever saw one, except _perhaps_ once
in grade school they played one that had some kind of pedagogical crap on it...

It was a rare phonograph, even back then, that had all four speeds on it.
(78, 45, 33, 16)

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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Dad bought a number of Heathkits.  He was not a particularly meticulous
assembler, and they often didn't work correctly.  I would re-follow the 
instructions,
and correct resistors, mis-installed transistors...

I bought an AM/SW radio, which you assembled in stages as a learning tool.
Was a very very good introduction to tube technology.

It's all mine, now.  Still using the VTVM, though I replaced the battery with a
LM317 powered by the filament supply.  The scope hasn't been used since
I got some Tektronix scopes.  (I think I have six, now.  Seven if you count the
one on the curve tracer.)

I found two more Heathkit VTVMs in the thrift stream, which I bought.
Basically if I find that kind of test equipment I buy it, though I did pass on
an NTSC generator.

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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Let's see, Heathkit tube stereo FM receiver, HH Scott stereo
tube amplifier, Knightkit VTVM (still have it and it works), Heathkit Twoer
(2 meter Ham transceiver),  Heathkit Tunneldipper (still works), scratch
built (from schematics) 80, 40, 15 meter CW transmitter, my own design 57
watt RFamplifier for the transmitter, and too many small projects to
remember.
Now I just assemble black boxes to get the functionality I want - Ham
station (need/want a new transceiver) all the avionics in the airplanes,
etc.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 12:31 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Holy. I built all sorts of HK stuff. I had my HK automotive scope up until
> maybe 10 years ago. I built my first SW receiver for my paternal
> grandfather so he could listen to broadcasts from Eastern Bloc countries
> (he was from what is now Albania.) My Dad bought that one so I could build
> it for my grandfather. I saved up and bought one of my own after that, and
> I just kept going…
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:20 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I’d wager most of us on here have built a Heathkit Receiver at some
> point in their younger years.
> >
> > AZBob
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 23, 2022, at 11:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> AM and SW can travel farther (sometimes much farther) than FM
> especially at night.
> >>
> >> I had a little crystal radio kit at some point when I was a kid and at
> night would sometimes pick up AM "blowtorch" stations hundreds of miles
> away.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Yeah, that was another place I used. Forgot about them.
> >>>
> >>> I was always amazed at the sensitivity of the tuners these things had.
> >>> I had an outdoor copper wire dipole that ran into my room that I used
> >>> for my HeathKit SW receiver and when I hooked that up to it I could
> >>> pull in an amazing number of stations. I would sit there for hours and
> >>> just log the different stations/locations I could get at night (CQ CQ!)
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> > On Dec 23, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
> 
>  I remember back in the day when the Radio Shack at the mall had a
> vacuum tube tester.
> 
>  I forget, am I the youngest on the list? Gotta be close...
> 
>  -Curt
> 
> 
> > On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:50:04 PM EST, dan penoff.com via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Yup, seen lots like that or similar over the years.
> 
>  These often ended up at my house when I was a kid because I was the
> one in the family who could “fix stuff”. I was very adept at replacing
> blown capacitors and testing tubes at the local drugstore…
> 
>  I had a smaller Zenith cabinet style stereo form my great aunt’s
> estate that was in my bedroom for all of my teen years. I remember it well,
> as while it wasn’t stereo, it had a much warmer sound that all of that
> transistor-based stuff did. Still have the “Tibet Almond Stick” that came
> with it for touching up scratches on the cabinet:
> 
>  [cid:E7EBB06C-BC81-48AB-8A23-5DF188450CA3]
> 
>  -D
> 
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Holy. I built all sorts of HK stuff. I had my HK automotive scope up until 
maybe 10 years ago. I built my first SW receiver for my paternal grandfather so 
he could listen to broadcasts from Eastern Bloc countries (he was from what is 
now Albania.) My Dad bought that one so I could build it for my grandfather. I 
saved up and bought one of my own after that, and I just kept going…

-D


> On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:20 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’d wager most of us on here have built a Heathkit Receiver at some point in 
> their younger years. 
> 
> AZBob 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 11:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> AM and SW can travel farther (sometimes much farther) than FM especially at 
>> night.
>> 
>> I had a little crystal radio kit at some point when I was a kid and at night 
>> would sometimes pick up AM "blowtorch" stations hundreds of miles away.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Yeah, that was another place I used. Forgot about them.
>>> 
>>> I was always amazed at the sensitivity of the tuners these things had. 
>>> I had an outdoor copper wire dipole that ran into my room that I used 
>>> for my HeathKit SW receiver and when I hooked that up to it I could 
>>> pull in an amazing number of stations. I would sit there for hours and 
>>> just log the different stations/locations I could get at night (CQ CQ!)
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
 
 I remember back in the day when the Radio Shack at the mall had a vacuum 
 tube tester.
 
 I forget, am I the youngest on the list? Gotta be close...
 
 -Curt
 
 
> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:50:04 PM EST, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yup, seen lots like that or similar over the years.
 
 These often ended up at my house when I was a kid because I was the one in 
 the family who could “fix stuff”. I was very adept at replacing blown 
 capacitors and testing tubes at the local drugstore…
 
 I had a smaller Zenith cabinet style stereo form my great aunt’s estate 
 that was in my bedroom for all of my teen years. I remember it well, as 
 while it wasn’t stereo, it had a much warmer sound that all of that 
 transistor-based stuff did. Still have the “Tibet Almond Stick” that came 
 with it for touching up scratches on the cabinet:
 
 [cid:E7EBB06C-BC81-48AB-8A23-5DF188450CA3]
 
 -D
 
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> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Heathkit was pretty much gone by the time I was earning enough to afford 
anything interesting. I built a few kits from Radio Shack as a kid.

My dad built a few things from Heathkit. I remember the parts spread out on the 
kitchen table after dinner when he'd work on them. He was very meticulous and 
had to have everything identifed and organized before he started. Mise en place 
sort of thing.


On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 13:20, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> I’d wager most of us on here have built a Heathkit Receiver at some 
> point in their younger years. 
>
> AZBob 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 11:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> AM and SW can travel farther (sometimes much farther) than FM especially at 
>> night.
>> 
>> I had a little crystal radio kit at some point when I was a kid and at night 
>> would sometimes pick up AM "blowtorch" stations hundreds of miles away.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Yeah, that was another place I used. Forgot about them.
>>> 
>>> I was always amazed at the sensitivity of the tuners these things had. 
>>> I had an outdoor copper wire dipole that ran into my room that I used 
>>> for my HeathKit SW receiver and when I hooked that up to it I could 
>>> pull in an amazing number of stations. I would sit there for hours and 
>>> just log the different stations/locations I could get at night (CQ CQ!)
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
 
 I remember back in the day when the Radio Shack at the mall had a vacuum 
 tube tester.
 
 I forget, am I the youngest on the list? Gotta be close...
 
 -Curt
 
 
> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:50:04 PM EST, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yup, seen lots like that or similar over the years.
 
 These often ended up at my house when I was a kid because I was the one in 
 the family who could “fix stuff”. I was very adept at replacing blown 
 capacitors and testing tubes at the local drugstore…
 
 I had a smaller Zenith cabinet style stereo form my great aunt’s estate 
 that was in my bedroom for all of my teen years. I remember it well, as 
 while it wasn’t stereo, it had a much warmer sound that all of that 
 transistor-based stuff did. Still have the “Tibet Almond Stick” that came 
 with it for touching up scratches on the cabinet:
 
 [cid:E7EBB06C-BC81-48AB-8A23-5DF188450CA3]
 
 -D
 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Is it transistors or tubes? That's around the time that they started changing 
over.

My dad always bought component stuff. We had his Scott integrated amplifier 
(which was mono) as the amp for playing records in the family room. It was tube 
based. At some point he bought a transistorized "receiver" and I guess he got 
rid of the old Scott. It looked much like this one but may not have been this 
exact model:

https://reverb.com/item/46663842-vintage-scott-99c-mono-tube-amplifier-w-2x-6l6gc-tubes


On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 12:11, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> My grandparents bought a Philco console stereo in 1955 as a gift to 
> themselves when my grandfather finished building their home. It’s 
> worked its way four generations and is now in my newly married youngest 
> daughter‘s home. 
> It sounds great. 
>
> AZBob
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have 2 old console stereos. One is currently out in the garage and should 
>> work. I paid $20 for it probably 30 years ago at a thrift store. Its a 
>> magnavox and has a really fancy cabinet. The other one is an RCA Victor that 
>> was my grandparents. It’s in my office and I would REALLY like to get it 
>> going. I recall listening to it one day back in the late 80’s or maybe early 
>> 90’s and it suddenly popped and has not worked since. I recall back when I 
>> was a kid my grandmother periodically had to have the “stereo” guy come over 
>> and work on it. Anyway in this case, I remember it was something about some 
>> transistors needed to be replaced and she opted not to fix it. I wonder 
>> where the hell you could find a person to work on these now days? I would 
>> gladly pay to have it fixed. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 10:44 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Back when your sound system was furniture.
>>> 
>>> My parents have an old radio/record player combo in their basement that is 
>>> similar though not as big. Someday when the house on the great northern 
>>> estate is more finished I'll take it up there. Hopefully the moisture of 
>>> the basement hasn't completely ruined the electrics. It was a good record 
>>> player, did 16, 33, 45 and 78 rpm. Not stereo though.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to restore whats there and add speakers and a bluetooth receiver 
>>> so it could have a modern music player hidden inside.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I’d wager most of us on here have built a Heathkit Receiver at some point in 
their younger years. 

AZBob 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 11:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> AM and SW can travel farther (sometimes much farther) than FM especially at 
> night.
> 
> I had a little crystal radio kit at some point when I was a kid and at night 
> would sometimes pick up AM "blowtorch" stations hundreds of miles away.
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yeah, that was another place I used. Forgot about them.
>> 
>> I was always amazed at the sensitivity of the tuners these things had. 
>> I had an outdoor copper wire dipole that ran into my room that I used 
>> for my HeathKit SW receiver and when I hooked that up to it I could 
>> pull in an amazing number of stations. I would sit there for hours and 
>> just log the different stations/locations I could get at night (CQ CQ!)
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Dec 23, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I remember back in the day when the Radio Shack at the mall had a vacuum 
>>> tube tester.
>>> 
>>> I forget, am I the youngest on the list? Gotta be close...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
 On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:50:04 PM EST, dan penoff.com via 
 Mercedes  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yup, seen lots like that or similar over the years.
>>> 
>>> These often ended up at my house when I was a kid because I was the one in 
>>> the family who could “fix stuff”. I was very adept at replacing blown 
>>> capacitors and testing tubes at the local drugstore…
>>> 
>>> I had a smaller Zenith cabinet style stereo form my great aunt’s estate 
>>> that was in my bedroom for all of my teen years. I remember it well, as 
>>> while it wasn’t stereo, it had a much warmer sound that all of that 
>>> transistor-based stuff did. Still have the “Tibet Almond Stick” that came 
>>> with it for touching up scratches on the cabinet:
>>> 
>>> [cid:E7EBB06C-BC81-48AB-8A23-5DF188450CA3]
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yup. It’s called “propagation” and I used it to listen to all sorts of cool 
stuff on my HeathKit SW receiver. It’s also why AM stations are required to 
reduce power after sunset. If you were an ARRL member you could get propagation 
“forecasts” that would give you an idea of the best days and times to listed 
for distant stations or specific parts of the world.

-D

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> AM and SW can travel farther (sometimes much farther) than FM especially at 
> night.
> 
> I had a little crystal radio kit at some point when I was a kid and at night 
> would sometimes pick up AM "blowtorch" stations hundreds of miles away.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yeah, that was another place I used. Forgot about them.
>> 
>> I was always amazed at the sensitivity of the tuners these things had. 
>> I had an outdoor copper wire dipole that ran into my room that I used 
>> for my HeathKit SW receiver and when I hooked that up to it I could 
>> pull in an amazing number of stations. I would sit there for hours and 
>> just log the different stations/locations I could get at night (CQ CQ!)
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I remember back in the day when the Radio Shack at the mall had a vacuum 
>>> tube tester.
>>> 
>>> I forget, am I the youngest on the list? Gotta be close...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:50:04 PM EST, dan penoff.com via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yup, seen lots like that or similar over the years.
>>> 
>>> These often ended up at my house when I was a kid because I was the one in 
>>> the family who could “fix stuff”. I was very adept at replacing blown 
>>> capacitors and testing tubes at the local drugstore…
>>> 
>>> I had a smaller Zenith cabinet style stereo form my great aunt’s estate 
>>> that was in my bedroom for all of my teen years. I remember it well, as 
>>> while it wasn’t stereo, it had a much warmer sound that all of that 
>>> transistor-based stuff did. Still have the “Tibet Almond Stick” that came 
>>> with it for touching up scratches on the cabinet:
>>> 
>>> [cid:E7EBB06C-BC81-48AB-8A23-5DF188450CA3]
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

AM and SW can travel farther (sometimes much farther) than FM especially at 
night.

I had a little crystal radio kit at some point when I was a kid and at night 
would sometimes pick up AM "blowtorch" stations hundreds of miles away.


On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Yeah, that was another place I used. Forgot about them.
>
> I was always amazed at the sensitivity of the tuners these things had. 
> I had an outdoor copper wire dipole that ran into my room that I used 
> for my HeathKit SW receiver and when I hooked that up to it I could 
> pull in an amazing number of stations. I would sit there for hours and 
> just log the different stations/locations I could get at night (CQ CQ!)
>
> -D
>
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> I remember back in the day when the Radio Shack at the mall had a vacuum 
>> tube tester.
>> 
>> I forget, am I the youngest on the list? Gotta be close...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:50:04 PM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yup, seen lots like that or similar over the years.
>> 
>> These often ended up at my house when I was a kid because I was the one in 
>> the family who could “fix stuff”. I was very adept at replacing blown 
>> capacitors and testing tubes at the local drugstore…
>> 
>> I had a smaller Zenith cabinet style stereo form my great aunt’s estate that 
>> was in my bedroom for all of my teen years. I remember it well, as while it 
>> wasn’t stereo, it had a much warmer sound that all of that transistor-based 
>> stuff did. Still have the “Tibet Almond Stick” that came with it for 
>> touching up scratches on the cabinet:
>> 
>> [cid:E7EBB06C-BC81-48AB-8A23-5DF188450CA3]
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

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I remember tube testers at Radio Shack. I was born in 1966.


On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 12:59, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> I remember back in the day when the Radio Shack at the mall had a 
> vacuum tube tester.
>
> I forget, am I the youngest on the list? Gotta be close...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:50:04 PM EST, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
>
>
>
>
>
> Yup, seen lots like that or similar over the years.
>
> These often ended up at my house when I was a kid because I was the one 
> in the family who could “fix stuff”. I was very adept at replacing 
> blown capacitors and testing tubes at the local drugstore…
>
> I had a smaller Zenith cabinet style stereo form my great aunt’s estate 
> that was in my bedroom for all of my teen years. I remember it well, as 
> while it wasn’t stereo, it had a much warmer sound that all of that 
> transistor-based stuff did. Still have the “Tibet Almond Stick” that 
> came with it for touching up scratches on the cabinet:
>
> [cid:E7EBB06C-BC81-48AB-8A23-5DF188450CA3]
>
> -D
>
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 11:36 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yeah, that was another place I used. Forgot about them.

I was always amazed at the sensitivity of the tuners these things had. I had an 
outdoor copper wire dipole that ran into my room that I used for my HeathKit SW 
receiver and when I hooked that up to it I could pull in an amazing number of 
stations. I would sit there for hours and just log the different 
stations/locations I could get at night (CQ CQ!)

-D

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I remember back in the day when the Radio Shack at the mall had a vacuum tube 
> tester.
> 
> I forget, am I the youngest on the list? Gotta be close...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:50:04 PM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yup, seen lots like that or similar over the years.
> 
> These often ended up at my house when I was a kid because I was the one in 
> the family who could “fix stuff”. I was very adept at replacing blown 
> capacitors and testing tubes at the local drugstore…
> 
> I had a smaller Zenith cabinet style stereo form my great aunt’s estate that 
> was in my bedroom for all of my teen years. I remember it well, as while it 
> wasn’t stereo, it had a much warmer sound that all of that transistor-based 
> stuff did. Still have the “Tibet Almond Stick” that came with it for touching 
> up scratches on the cabinet:
> 
> [cid:E7EBB06C-BC81-48AB-8A23-5DF188450CA3]
> 
> -D
> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 11:36 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I'm older than most and a longtime record buff but never seen nor heard of
16 1/3 rpm discs.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 1:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Huh, I never thought about it. I think we only had a couple 16rpm records.
> I guess it's really 16 2/3 rpm:
>
> https://bloggerhythms.blogspot.com/2011/05/slower-than-slow-16-rpm-records.html
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:53:12 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Wow I've never heard of 16 RPM records. Were they common? I'm guessing
> maybe they were for spoken word/audio-book type stuff?
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 11:43, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > Back when your sound system was furniture.
> >
> > My parents have an old radio/record player combo in their basement that
> > is similar though not as big. Someday when the house on the great
> > northern estate is more finished I'll take it up there. Hopefully the
> > moisture of the basement hasn't completely ruined the electrics. It was
> > a good record player, did 16, 33, 45 and 78 rpm. Not stereo though.
> >
> > I'd like to restore whats there and add speakers and a bluetooth
> > receiver so it could have a modern music player hidden inside.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 11:37:02 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via
> > Mercedes  wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Huh, I never thought about it. I think we only had a couple 16rpm records. I 
guess it's really 16 2/3 rpm:
https://bloggerhythms.blogspot.com/2011/05/slower-than-slow-16-rpm-records.html

-Curt






On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:53:12 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Wow I've never heard of 16 RPM records. Were they common? I'm guessing maybe 
they were for spoken word/audio-book type stuff?


On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 11:43, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Back when your sound system was furniture.
>
> My parents have an old radio/record player combo in their basement that 
> is similar though not as big. Someday when the house on the great 
> northern estate is more finished I'll take it up there. Hopefully the 
> moisture of the basement hasn't completely ruined the electrics. It was 
> a good record player, did 16, 33, 45 and 78 rpm. Not stereo though.
>
> I'd like to restore whats there and add speakers and a bluetooth 
> receiver so it could have a modern music player hidden inside.
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 11:37:02 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I remember back in the day when the Radio Shack at the mall had a vacuum tube 
tester.

I forget, am I the youngest on the list? Gotta be close...

-Curt


On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:50:04 PM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Yup, seen lots like that or similar over the years.

These often ended up at my house when I was a kid because I was the one in the 
family who could “fix stuff”. I was very adept at replacing blown capacitors 
and testing tubes at the local drugstore…

I had a smaller Zenith cabinet style stereo form my great aunt’s estate that 
was in my bedroom for all of my teen years. I remember it well, as while it 
wasn’t stereo, it had a much warmer sound that all of that transistor-based 
stuff did. Still have the “Tibet Almond Stick” that came with it for touching 
up scratches on the cabinet:

[cid:E7EBB06C-BC81-48AB-8A23-5DF188450CA3]

-D

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mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:




https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/677208133799739/?mibextid=6ojiHh


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Wow I've never heard of 16 RPM records. Were they common? I'm guessing maybe 
they were for spoken word/audio-book type stuff?


On Fri, Dec 23, 2022, at 11:43, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Back when your sound system was furniture.
>
> My parents have an old radio/record player combo in their basement that 
> is similar though not as big. Someday when the house on the great 
> northern estate is more finished I'll take it up there. Hopefully the 
> moisture of the basement hasn't completely ruined the electrics. It was 
> a good record player, did 16, 33, 45 and 78 rpm. Not stereo though.
>
> I'd like to restore whats there and add speakers and a bluetooth 
> receiver so it could have a modern music player hidden inside.
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 11:37:02 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I remember it was something about some transistors needed to be replaced and 
> she opted not to fix it.

Transistors, and/or capacitors.  Tricky to fix if you're not familiar with the 
particular circuit BS of the age.
Else everything just pops again.  Tube gear is easier to work on.  Particularly 
difficult if your stuff dates
from the Germanium era.  (Pre-silicon.)

>  I wonder where the hell you could find a person to work on these now days? I 
> would gladly pay to have it fixed. 

There's a guy, maybe two, in my town.  Check Craigslist services.  Can run to 
some dough...

-- Jim


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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/677208133799739/?mibextid=6ojiHh 
> 

Faux old.  Here is a photo of the ultra-'modern' one I grew up with, a 
Schenkendorf:

800 × 583 


Lost in a house fire.  Was a 4-band radio.  FM Mono, but you could split the 
audio
amplifier into two halves for stereo phonograph use.  The other side of the 
cabinet
is liquor storage.  Mirror/glass/plush shiny fabric.  Tres 50's chic!  The 
first piece of
furniture my parents bought when they married.

-- Jim

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[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

My grandparents bought a Philco console stereo in 1955 as a gift to themselves 
when my grandfather finished building their home. It’s worked its way four 
generations and is now in my newly married youngest daughter‘s home. 
It sounds great. 

AZBob


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> On Dec 23, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have 2 old console stereos. One is currently out in the garage and should 
> work. I paid $20 for it probably 30 years ago at a thrift store. Its a 
> magnavox and has a really fancy cabinet. The other one is an RCA Victor that 
> was my grandparents. It’s in my office and I would REALLY like to get it 
> going. I recall listening to it one day back in the late 80’s or maybe early 
> 90’s and it suddenly popped and has not worked since. I recall back when I 
> was a kid my grandmother periodically had to have the “stereo” guy come over 
> and work on it. Anyway in this case, I remember it was something about some 
> transistors needed to be replaced and she opted not to fix it. I wonder where 
> the hell you could find a person to work on these now days? I would gladly 
> pay to have it fixed. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 10:44 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Back when your sound system was furniture.
>> 
>> My parents have an old radio/record player combo in their basement that is 
>> similar though not as big. Someday when the house on the great northern 
>> estate is more finished I'll take it up there. Hopefully the moisture of the 
>> basement hasn't completely ruined the electrics. It was a good record 
>> player, did 16, 33, 45 and 78 rpm. Not stereo though.
>> 
>> I'd like to restore whats there and add speakers and a bluetooth receiver so 
>> it could have a modern music player hidden inside.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 11:37:02 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have 2 old console stereos. One is currently out in the garage and should 
work. I paid $20 for it probably 30 years ago at a thrift store. Its a magnavox 
and has a really fancy cabinet. The other one is an RCA Victor that was my 
grandparents. It’s in my office and I would REALLY like to get it going. I 
recall listening to it one day back in the late 80’s or maybe early 90’s and it 
suddenly popped and has not worked since. I recall back when I was a kid my 
grandmother periodically had to have the “stereo” guy come over and work on it. 
Anyway in this case, I remember it was something about some transistors needed 
to be replaced and she opted not to fix it. I wonder where the hell you could 
find a person to work on these now days? I would gladly pay to have it fixed. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 10:44 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Back when your sound system was furniture.
> 
> My parents have an old radio/record player combo in their basement that is 
> similar though not as big. Someday when the house on the great northern 
> estate is more finished I'll take it up there. Hopefully the moisture of the 
> basement hasn't completely ruined the electrics. It was a good record player, 
> did 16, 33, 45 and 78 rpm. Not stereo though.
> 
> I'd like to restore whats there and add speakers and a bluetooth receiver so 
> it could have a modern music player hidden inside.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 11:37:02 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Back when your sound system was furniture.

My parents have an old radio/record player combo in their basement that is 
similar though not as big. Someday when the house on the great northern estate 
is more finished I'll take it up there. Hopefully the moisture of the basement 
hasn't completely ruined the electrics. It was a good record player, did 16, 
33, 45 and 78 rpm. Not stereo though.

I'd like to restore whats there and add speakers and a bluetooth receiver so it 
could have a modern music player hidden inside.

-Curt




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