Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
October 12, 2017 at 10:40 AM
Is it that difficult to write "Chinese" correctly?

HE did!
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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

This too, will end

Wisconsin is talkin about ending the ban on iron mining.  They need to 
annex da UP from the Mitchiganders.  If iron came back to da UP, folks 
could make a living there.


Back in the day, nobody did it better than International Harvester.  
They owned the whole process, from mine to machinery painted red.  They 
even owned the ore ships.

G Mann via Mercedes 
October 11, 2017 at 11:03 PM
One problem with furren steel mills is the steel produced is high 
volume of

recycled steel which is a combination of cast, steel, mixtures of other
metals that go into making modern steels.. The ability to control material
content is seriously compromised, consequently..

In the "Old Days" of American Steel.. it started with Iron Ore straight
from the ground, purified, then the requisite amounts of nickel, 
manganese,

etc were added to produce "new steel" ...

What is sold now is "remelted what ever is in the pile" more or less.



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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Didja salvage the unobtanium rear winder glass?


Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
October 11, 2017 at 1:38 PM
I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value 
off it (and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the 
scrapyard today. Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, 
cost was $50,950 including $1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of 
money 31 years ago.



--R


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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Well, a noble intent but it comes across as childishly racist.

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It appears to be a statement against the repression represented by the
> regime, something with which I think all progressive-thinking individuals
> could align.
>
> TRIM YOU"RE POSTS!!!
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 10/12/17 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Is it that difficult to write "Chinese" correctly?
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is a steel mill up the coast a bit in a little town that has been
>>> open/closed off an on.  It closed again a year or two ago, talk about
>>> opening it again, but I don't think the numbers can work.  Plus the
>>> little
>>> harbor is silting up and it would cost a lot to dredge it out to get some
>>> reasonable ships in there as they used to.  I think they were making some
>>> sort of specialty product, I forget, but they said foreign competition
>>> (mostly chinee) was killing them.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It appears to be a statement against the repression represented by the 
regime, something with which I think all progressive-thinking 
individuals could align.


TRIM YOU"RE POSTS!!!

--FT


On 10/12/17 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Is it that difficult to write "Chinese" correctly?

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


There is a steel mill up the coast a bit in a little town that has been
open/closed off an on.  It closed again a year or two ago, talk about
opening it again, but I don't think the numbers can work.  Plus the little
harbor is silting up and it would cost a lot to dredge it out to get some
reasonable ships in there as they used to.  I think they were making some
sort of specialty product, I forget, but they said foreign competition
(mostly chinee) was killing them.

--R





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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Is it that difficult to write "Chinese" correctly?

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There is a steel mill up the coast a bit in a little town that has been
> open/closed off an on.  It closed again a year or two ago, talk about
> opening it again, but I don't think the numbers can work.  Plus the little
> harbor is silting up and it would cost a lot to dredge it out to get some
> reasonable ships in there as they used to.  I think they were making some
> sort of specialty product, I forget, but they said foreign competition
> (mostly chinee) was killing them.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 10/11/17 11:25 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> In disputing value of the SD, insco claimed it was worth $350 scrap.  But
>> I called a number of local yards as the best I could get for two tons of
>> car was $70.  That scrap price is much less than the coparts price.  Makes
>> me think the plan was to sell Allen on with the hope it would bring very
>> close to the payout.   Had the car actually gone to a PnP, it would have
>> been offered as a rebuilder, which would be priced close to $1800.
>>
>> The time is coming for the shuttered steel plants in Amreeka to be fired
>> back up.  Anybody recall the current stories about the steel out of asia
>> that had QC data falsified?  Do we trust our weapons systems to chinese
>> metal?
>>
>> clay
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The chinee steel market is way down.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/11/17 2:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
 I got $150 in 2009 for a stripped but rusty 300TD.

 On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high
> as
> $400
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value
>>
> off it (and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the
> scrapyard today. Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker,
> cost
> was $50,950 including $1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31
> years ago.
>
>> 
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

There is a steel mill up the coast a bit in a little town that has been 
open/closed off an on.  It closed again a year or two ago, talk about 
opening it again, but I don't think the numbers can work.  Plus the 
little harbor is silting up and it would cost a lot to dredge it out to 
get some reasonable ships in there as they used to.  I think they were 
making some sort of specialty product, I forget, but they said foreign 
competition (mostly chinee) was killing them.


--R


On 10/11/17 11:25 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

In disputing value of the SD, insco claimed it was worth $350 scrap.  But I 
called a number of local yards as the best I could get for two tons of car was 
$70.  That scrap price is much less than the coparts price.  Makes me think the 
plan was to sell Allen on with the hope it would bring very close to the 
payout.   Had the car actually gone to a PnP, it would have been offered as a 
rebuilder, which would be priced close to $1800.

The time is coming for the shuttered steel plants in Amreeka to be fired back 
up.  Anybody recall the current stories about the steel out of asia that had QC 
data falsified?  Do we trust our weapons systems to chinese metal?

clay


On Oct 11, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:

The chinee steel market is way down.

--R


On 10/11/17 2:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I got $150 in 2009 for a stripped but rusty 300TD.

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high as
$400

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value

off it (and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the
scrapyard today. Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, cost
was $50,950 including $1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31
years ago.





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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[G Mann via Mercedes]

One problem with furren steel mills is the steel produced is high volume of
recycled steel which is a combination of cast, steel, mixtures of other
metals that go into making modern steels.. The ability to control material
content is seriously compromised, consequently..

In the "Old Days" of American Steel.. it started with Iron Ore straight
from the ground, purified, then the requisite amounts of nickel, manganese,
etc were added to produce "new steel" ...

What is sold now is "remelted what ever is in the pile" more or less.

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 8:25 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In disputing value of the SD, insco claimed it was worth $350 scrap.  But
> I called a number of local yards as the best I could get for two tons of
> car was $70.  That scrap price is much less than the coparts price.  Makes
> me think the plan was to sell Allen on with the hope it would bring very
> close to the payout.   Had the car actually gone to a PnP, it would have
> been offered as a rebuilder, which would be priced close to $1800.
>
> The time is coming for the shuttered steel plants in Amreeka to be fired
> back up.  Anybody recall the current stories about the steel out of asia
> that had QC data falsified?  Do we trust our weapons systems to chinese
> metal?
>
> clay
>
> > On Oct 11, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The chinee steel market is way down.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 10/11/17 2:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I got $150 in 2009 for a stripped but rusty 300TD.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high
> as
> >>> $400
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>  I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value
> >>> off it (and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the
> >>> scrapyard today. Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker,
> cost
> >>> was $50,950 including $1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31
> >>> years ago.
>  
> 
>
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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

In disputing value of the SD, insco claimed it was worth $350 scrap.  But I 
called a number of local yards as the best I could get for two tons of car was 
$70.  That scrap price is much less than the coparts price.  Makes me think the 
plan was to sell Allen on with the hope it would bring very close to the 
payout.   Had the car actually gone to a PnP, it would have been offered as a 
rebuilder, which would be priced close to $1800.

The time is coming for the shuttered steel plants in Amreeka to be fired back 
up.  Anybody recall the current stories about the steel out of asia that had QC 
data falsified?  Do we trust our weapons systems to chinese metal?

clay

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The chinee steel market is way down.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 10/11/17 2:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> I got $150 in 2009 for a stripped but rusty 300TD.
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high as
>>> $400
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value
>>> off it (and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the
>>> scrapyard today. Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, cost
>>> was $50,950 including $1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31
>>> years ago.
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I talked to the local guy last week.  He told me it took a dump again.  
Gonna stay down until the chicoms or somebody else starts buying scrap 
to make war.


1939:  USA embargoes sale of scrap to Nippon.   Two years later they 
bombed the snot out of our battlewagons.  They were really PO'd about 
the supply of scrap being cut off.

2017:  USA embargoes sale of scrap to Korcoms.  2019?


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
October 11, 2017 at 1:42 PM
Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high 
as $400




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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

That was a LOT of car 31 years ago too!

LarryT


On 10/11/2017 2:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value off it 
(and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the scrapyard today. 
Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, cost was $50,950 including 
$1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31 years ago.




--R
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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

The chinee steel market is way down.

--R


On 10/11/17 2:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I got $150 in 2009 for a stripped but rusty 300TD.

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high as
$400

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value

off it (and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the
scrapyard today. Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, cost
was $50,950 including $1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31
years ago.




--R
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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I got $150 in 2009 for a stripped but rusty 300TD.

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high as
> $400
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value
> off it (and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the
> scrapyard today. Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, cost
> was $50,950 including $1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31
> years ago.
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > --R
> > Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high as $400

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value off it 
> (and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the scrapyard 
> today. Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, cost was $50,950 
> including $1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31 years ago. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
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[MBZ] Ignominy

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value off it 
(and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the scrapyard today. 
Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, cost was $50,950 including 
$1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31 years ago. 



--R
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