Re: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD
No problems today, only thing I did was change the main fuel filter. I consider this solved, although I still plan to change the tank strainer eventually (have had the parts for several years now). Guy here at the office stood and watched while I changed the filter yesterday during lunch break. He was amazed at (1) the size of the filter and (2) how easy it was. I pointed out a few other things that were easy to work on this car, I think he was impressed. When I told him the car has over 300k miles, he was REALLY impressed. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 315k miles '95 E300 274k miles Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD
May as well check the air filter - if seriously clogged it will act as you describe. Good luck - LarryT 91 300D Does your business accept or need to accept V/MC/AE/Dis? We have the best rates & 0% Interest Business loans. Visit: http://www.merchantreferralsolutions.com/A365706 -- From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:01 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD Cold enough to gell fuel? 45 deg F, so I don't think that is it. Gasoline in the tank? Not likely, unless the diesel pump at last station was connected to contaminated tank. However, I had 400 miles on the tank with no symptoms. Those are outside chances. Clogged fuel filters and/or air leaking into >the fuel system are at the top of the list, assuming that the tank wasn't >actually empty. Clogged tank strainer is also on the list. Air leak is a good thought, but would it get better and worse? I can imagine a leak can change with temperature, but it started and ran fine for 10 minutes when cold, then suddenly got worse, got a fresh tank of fuel and was better but not 100%. If the fuel filter doesn't do it, I'll swap the supply/return lines to test the strainer. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD
Thanks Peter, that makes sense, I'll see what I can find. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD Check for leaking fuel lines up by the lift pump -- there are a couple o-rings there that can go bad and leak air into the fuel system, and by now the original fuel lines are probably leaking if they have not been replaced. Any fuel on the outside of the lines means they are cracked, and will leak air in under suction. There is more suction with the tank low Peter -Original Message- >From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, > 53310" >Sent: Oct 20, 2009 7:47 AM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD > >Dieselvolk, > >My 124 wagon started acting up during the ride to work in the cold and >dark this a.m. After only about 10 minutes and while driving at about >45 mph, she started surging and losing power, until soon I had the >accel. floored to maintain speed. At next stop she tried to stall out, >but I was able to keep the engine going and diverted to the nearest >station with diesel. Speed got slower and slower, no bucking or >missing just really low power and would not idle sometimes. Hard to >maintain 30 mph. > >I was thinking low fuel condition, as the gauge is really really >optimistic lately and perhaps the reserve fuel warning light had >malfunctioned, but she only took 12.7 gallons. However, when I opened >the fuel cap there was a bit of a whoosh. Filled up, got back on the >road and all was fine EXCEPT at full throttle and when climbing large >hills. While crossing to the two really big steep bridges to get to >work, at WOT the surging was back and power was lower. Opened the fuel >cap again when I got to work; there was no whoosh. > >So, what thinks you? I'm thinking either clogged fuel filter, clogged >tank strainer, clogged tank vent, or some combination of the three. > >I have a fuel filter with me, I'll probably try to change that over my >lunch break. > >Very respectfully, >/s/ >LCDR Max Dillon >'87 300TD 315k miles >'95 E300 274k miles >Charleston SC > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives >http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD
-Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD >Cold enough to gell fuel? 45 deg F, so I don't think that is it. >Gasoline in the tank? Not likely, unless the diesel pump at last station was connected to contaminated tank. However, I had 400 miles on the tank with no symptoms. >Those are outside chances. Clogged fuel filters and/or air leaking into >the fuel system are at the top of the list, assuming that the tank wasn't >actually empty. Clogged tank strainer is also on the list. Air leak is a good thought, but would it get better and worse? I can imagine a leak can change with temperature, but it started and ran fine for 10 minutes when cold, then suddenly got worse, got a fresh tank of fuel and was better but not 100%. If the fuel filter doesn't do it, I'll swap the supply/return lines to test the strainer. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD
Check for leaking fuel lines up by the lift pump -- there are a couple o-rings there that can go bad and leak air into the fuel system, and by now the original fuel lines are probably leaking if they have not been replaced. Any fuel on the outside of the lines means they are cracked, and will leak air in under suction. There is more suction with the tank low Peter -Original Message- >From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, > 53310" >Sent: Oct 20, 2009 7:47 AM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD > >Dieselvolk, > >My 124 wagon started acting up during the ride to work in the cold and >dark this a.m. After only about 10 minutes and while driving at about >45 mph, she started surging and losing power, until soon I had the >accel. floored to maintain speed. At next stop she tried to stall out, >but I was able to keep the engine going and diverted to the nearest >station with diesel. Speed got slower and slower, no bucking or missing >just really low power and would not idle sometimes. Hard to maintain 30 >mph. > >I was thinking low fuel condition, as the gauge is really really >optimistic lately and perhaps the reserve fuel warning light had >malfunctioned, but she only took 12.7 gallons. However, when I opened >the fuel cap there was a bit of a whoosh. Filled up, got back on the >road and all was fine EXCEPT at full throttle and when climbing large >hills. While crossing to the two really big steep bridges to get to >work, at WOT the surging was back and power was lower. Opened the fuel >cap again when I got to work; there was no whoosh. > >So, what thinks you? I'm thinking either clogged fuel filter, clogged >tank strainer, clogged tank vent, or some combination of the three. > >I have a fuel filter with me, I'll probably try to change that over my >lunch break. > >Very respectfully, >/s/ >LCDR Max Dillon >'87 300TD 315k miles >'95 E300 274k miles >Charleston SC > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD
My 124 wagon started acting up during the ride to work in the cold and dark this a.m. After only about 10 minutes and while driving at about Cold enough to gell fuel? 45 mph, she started surging and losing power, until soon I had the accel. floored to maintain speed. At next stop she tried to stall out, but I was able to keep the engine going and diverted to the nearest station with diesel. Gasoline in the tank? Those are outside chances. Clogged fuel filters and/or air leaking into the fuel system are at the top of the list, assuming that the tank wasn't actually empty. Clogged tank strainer is also on the list. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD
I'll take a peak under the rear, sure hope I haven't already collapsed the tank. I doubt it though. I've been suspicious of the strainer for awhile, car had some microbial bloom when I got it. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: > > So, what thinks you? I'm thinking either clogged fuel filter, clogged > tank strainer, clogged tank vent, or some combination of the three. If the tank vent is clogged, your fuel capacity might be 12.7 gallons. Does the tank look like a deflated football? Otherwise, replace the filters, and if that doesn't work, clean the strainer next time you're low on fuel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: So, what thinks you? I'm thinking either clogged fuel filter, clogged tank strainer, clogged tank vent, or some combination of the three. If the tank vent is clogged, your fuel capacity might be 12.7 gallons. Does the tank look like a deflated football? Otherwise, replace the filters, and if that doesn't work, clean the strainer next time you're low on fuel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Low power, stalling issues: '87 300TD
Dieselvolk, My 124 wagon started acting up during the ride to work in the cold and dark this a.m. After only about 10 minutes and while driving at about 45 mph, she started surging and losing power, until soon I had the accel. floored to maintain speed. At next stop she tried to stall out, but I was able to keep the engine going and diverted to the nearest station with diesel. Speed got slower and slower, no bucking or missing just really low power and would not idle sometimes. Hard to maintain 30 mph. I was thinking low fuel condition, as the gauge is really really optimistic lately and perhaps the reserve fuel warning light had malfunctioned, but she only took 12.7 gallons. However, when I opened the fuel cap there was a bit of a whoosh. Filled up, got back on the road and all was fine EXCEPT at full throttle and when climbing large hills. While crossing to the two really big steep bridges to get to work, at WOT the surging was back and power was lower. Opened the fuel cap again when I got to work; there was no whoosh. So, what thinks you? I'm thinking either clogged fuel filter, clogged tank strainer, clogged tank vent, or some combination of the three. I have a fuel filter with me, I'll probably try to change that over my lunch break. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 315k miles '95 E300 274k miles Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
