[MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[Larry T via Mercedes]

Hi All, 
I just got a shock - my credit card was charged $75 for a "Membership" in the 
Parts Program at MB. Don't know about the others but I joined to gain access to 
their Parts Diagrams. I just learned the program is being managed by a 
different company which will no longer off the "Free" subscriptions. The 
problem is, they have our credit cards on file and I found out they are not shy 
about charging the cards without much (any?) 
pre-authorization. At least they didn't in my case. I found my CC had been 
charged $75 to renew the "Free" membership only when I saw it on my bank 
statement. As those who created memberships know, they required a CC to confirm 
something or other. 

Anyway, if you have memberships, be sure you cancel or whatever before they 
charge your card unless the parts diagrams are that important to you to pay 
$75/year for membership. 

Now, I am trying to get the $75 refunded. 

I hope everyine is having a great weekend? 

LarryT 
91 300D 
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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Just file a dispute with your credit card number

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> On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Larry T via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> I just got a shock - my credit card was charged $75 for a "Membership" in the 
> Parts Program at MB. Don't know about the others but I joined to gain access 
> to their Parts Diagrams. I just learned the program is being managed by a 
> different company which will no longer off the "Free" subscriptions. The 
> problem is, they have our credit cards on file and I found out they are not 
> shy about charging the cards without much (any?) 
> pre-authorization. At least they didn't in my case. I found my CC had been 
> charged $75 to renew the "Free" membership only when I saw it on my bank 
> statement. As those who created memberships know, they required a CC to 
> confirm something or other. 
> 
> Anyway, if you have memberships, be sure you cancel or whatever before they 
> charge your card unless the parts diagrams are that important to you to pay 
> $75/year for membership. 
> 
> Now, I am trying to get the $75 refunded. 
> 
> I hope everyine is having a great weekend? 
> 
> LarryT 
> 91 300D 
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> Inexpensive Oil Test Kits! 
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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Thanks, Larry. That seems to be a growing racket on programs that are 
periodically renewed. It happened to me on www.malwarebytes.com
Malwarebytes kept my CC number and charged it the following year without my 
permission. Neither the bank nor Visa wanted to make them refund.
I asked the bank twice, and both times they promised to get a refund, but they 
never have. 

I've thought about getting a late model Mercedes to replace my two 123's, but 
since a Mercedes dealers mechanics mistake destroyed the engine in my daughters 
'08 GL320cdi, told her she needed a new engine, and charged her $2000 for 
repairing the brakes; (both the engine and the brakes were working quite well 
after a 100 mile highway trip to the dealer when she went in for a scheduled 
oil change.); I've decided to keep the 123s or switch to another make. 
Daughter hired a lawyer who made the dealer pay for a new engine from a German 
owned Indy who had it shipped from Germany, and refund the $2000 which she had 
not approved, but she was still out $1500 paid to the lawyer plus the time, 
trouble, and travel.

Gerry
~~
Larry T wrote:
> Hi All, 
> I just got a shock - my credit card was charged $75 for a "Membership" in the 
> Parts Program at MB. Don't know about the others but I joined to gain access 
> to their Parts Diagrams. I just learned the program is being managed by a 
> different company which will no longer offer the "Free" subscriptions. The 
> problem is, they have our credit cards on file and I found out they are not 
> shy about charging the cards without much (any?) 
> pre-authorization. At least they didn't in my case. I found my CC had been 
> charged $75 to renew the "Free" membership only when I saw it on my bank 
> statement. As those who created memberships know, they required a CC to 
> confirm something or other. 
> 
> Anyway, if you have memberships, be sure you cancel or whatever before they 
> charge your card unless the parts diagrams are that important to you to pay 
> $75/year for membership. 
> 
> Now, I am trying to get the $75 refunded. 
> 
> I hope everyine is having a great weekend? 
> 
> LarryT 
> 91 300D 
> Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For 
> Inexpensive Oil Test Kits! 
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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Have we heard this story? I don't remember it. What was the deal with the 
engine?

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> On Jul 31, 2016, at 5:32 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Larry. That seems to be a growing racket on programs that are 
> periodically renewed. It happened to me on www.malwarebytes.com
> Malwarebytes kept my CC number and charged it the following year without my 
> permission. Neither the bank nor Visa wanted to make them refund.
> I asked the bank twice, and both times they promised to get a refund, but 
> they never have. 
> 
> I've thought about getting a late model Mercedes to replace my two 123's, but 
> since a Mercedes dealers mechanics mistake destroyed the engine in my 
> daughters '08 GL320cdi, told her she needed a new engine, and charged her 
> $2000 for repairing the brakes; (both the engine and the brakes were working 
> quite well after a 100 mile highway trip to the dealer when she went in for a 
> scheduled oil change.); I've decided to keep the 123s or switch to another 
> make. 
> Daughter hired a lawyer who made the dealer pay for a new engine from a 
> German owned Indy who had it shipped from Germany, and refund the $2000 which 
> she had not approved, but she was still out $1500 paid to the lawyer plus the 
> time, trouble, and travel.
> 
> Gerry
> ~~
> Larry T wrote:
>> Hi All, 
>> I just got a shock - my credit card was charged $75 for a "Membership" in 
>> the Parts Program at MB. Don't know about the others but I joined to gain 
>> access to their Parts Diagrams. I just learned the program is being managed 
>> by a different company which will no longer offer the "Free" subscriptions. 
>> The problem is, they have our credit cards on file and I found out they are 
>> not shy about charging the cards without much (any?) 
>> pre-authorization. At least they didn't in my case. I found my CC had been 
>> charged $75 to renew the "Free" membership only when I saw it on my bank 
>> statement. As those who created memberships know, they required a CC to 
>> confirm something or other. 
>> 
>> Anyway, if you have memberships, be sure you cancel or whatever before they 
>> charge your card unless the parts diagrams are that important to you to pay 
>> $75/year for membership. 
>> 
>> Now, I am trying to get the $75 refunded. 
>> 
>> I hope everyine is having a great weekend? 
>> 
>> LarryT 
>> 91 300D 
>> Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For 
>> Inexpensive Oil Test Kits! 
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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks for the heads up Larry, I'll check mine, hope I'm not in the same boat.
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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I think I wrote about it before the case was settled.
 
There was nothing wrong with the engine. Daughter took it in for routine oil 
change; nothing else.
For some reason, mechanic went into the engine, put the chain back wrong, 
cranked it up, and destroyed the engine; according to dealer.
Dealer billed her $15K plus $2000 for brake repairs (no engine or brake trouble 
lights had come on).
I hooked her up with Continental Imports, an indy I've known for a long time, 
they put in a new engine, and it has run fine since then.
Gerry

"Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Have we heard this story? I don't remember it. What was the deal with the 
> engine?

> > On Jul 31, 2016, at 5:32 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks, Larry. That seems to be a growing racket on programs that are 
> > periodically renewed. It happened to me on www.malwarebytes.com
> > Malwarebytes kept my CC number and charged it the following year without my 
> > permission. Neither the bank nor Visa wanted to make them refund.
> > I asked the bank twice, and both times they promised to get a refund, but 
> > they never have. 
> > 
> > I've thought about getting a late model Mercedes to replace my two 123's, 
> > but since a Mercedes dealers mechanics mistake destroyed the engine in my 
> > daughters '08 GL320cdi, told her she needed a new engine, and charged her 
> > $2000 for repairing the brakes; (both the engine and the brakes were 
> > working quite well after a 100 mile highway trip to the dealer when she 
> > went in for a scheduled oil change.); I've decided to keep the 123s or 
> > switch to another make. 
> > Daughter hired a lawyer who made the dealer pay for a new engine from a 
> > German owned Indy who had it shipped from Germany, and refund the $2000 
> > which she had not approved, but she was still out $1500 paid to the lawyer 
> > plus the time, trouble, and travel.
> > 
> > Gerry
> > ~~
> > Larry T wrote:
> >> Hi All, 
> >> I just got a shock - my credit card was charged $75 for a "Membership" in 
> >> the Parts Program at MB. Don't know about the others but I joined to gain 
> >> access to their Parts Diagrams. I just learned the program is being 
> >> managed by a different company which will no longer offer the "Free" 
> >> subscriptions. The problem is, they have our credit cards on file and I 
> >> found out they are not shy about charging the cards without much (any?) 
> >> pre-authorization. At least they didn't in my case. I found my CC had been 
> >> charged $75 to renew the "Free" membership only when I saw it on my bank 
> >> statement. As those who created memberships know, they required a CC to 
> >> confirm something or other. 
> >> 
> >> Anyway, if you have memberships, be sure you cancel or whatever before 
> >> they charge your card unless the parts diagrams are that important to you 
> >> to pay $75/year for membership. 
> >> 
> >> Now, I am trying to get the $75 refunded. 
> >> 
> >> I hope everyine is having a great weekend? 
> >> 
> >> LarryT 
> >> 91 300D 
> >> Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For 
> >> Inexpensive Oil Test Kits! 
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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Mercedes benz of south atlanta makes some form of the parts books 
available online.  It is FREE and does not require a CC.


THis is why I never wanted to give those clowns a CC number.  This and 
the fact that it was windoze only.   Windoze only has been outdated for 
at least 15 years.



Larry T via Mercedes 
July 31, 2016 at 3:30 PM
Hi All,
I just got a shock - my credit card was charged $75 for a "Membership" 
in the Parts Program at MB. Don't know about the others but I joined 
to gain access to their Parts Diagrams. I just learned the program is 
being managed by a different company which will no longer off the 
"Free" subscriptions. The problem is, they have our credit cards on 
file and I found out they are not shy about charging the cards without 
much (any?)
pre-authorization. At least they didn't in my case. I found my CC had 
been charged $75 to renew the "Free" membership only when I saw it on 
my bank statement. As those who created memberships know, they 
required a CC to confirm something or other.


Anyway, if you have memberships, be sure you cancel or whatever before 
they charge your card unless the parts diagrams are that important to 
you to pay $75/year for membership.


Now, I am trying to get the $75 refunded.

I hope everyine is having a great weekend?

LarryT
91 300D
Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For 
Inexpensive Oil Test Kits!


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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Moral of the story is: "don't trust the stealer for anything."  There is 
a reason they are called stealers.   YMMV.


Gerry, same reason I decided to keep the 123 240Ds. (and 124 300Ds and SDLs)


archer75--- via Mercedes 
July 31, 2016 at 5:32 PM
Thanks, Larry. That seems to be a growing racket on programs that are 
periodically renewed. It happened to me on www.malwarebytes.com
Malwarebytes kept my CC number and charged it the following year 
without my permission. Neither the bank nor Visa wanted to make them 
refund.
I asked the bank twice, and both times they promised to get a refund, 
but they never have.


I've thought about getting a late model Mercedes to replace my two 
123's, but since a Mercedes dealers mechanics mistake destroyed the 
engine in my daughters '08 GL320cdi, told her she needed a new engine, 
and charged her $2000 for repairing the brakes; (both the engine and 
the brakes were working quite well after a 100 mile highway trip to 
the dealer when she went in for a scheduled oil change.); I've decided 
to keep the 123s or switch to another make.
Daughter hired a lawyer who made the dealer pay for a new engine from 
a German owned Indy who had it shipped from Germany, and refund the 
$2000 which she had not approved, but she was still out $1500 paid to 
the lawyer plus the time, trouble, and travel.


Gerry
~~


Larry T via Mercedes 
July 31, 2016 at 3:30 PM
Hi All,
I just got a shock - my credit card was charged $75 for a "Membership" 
in the Parts Program at MB. Don't know about the others but I joined 
to gain access to their Parts Diagrams. I just learned the program is 
being managed by a different company which will no longer off the 
"Free" subscriptions. The problem is, they have our credit cards on 
file and I found out they are not shy about charging the cards without 
much (any?)
pre-authorization. At least they didn't in my case. I found my CC had 
been charged $75 to renew the "Free" membership only when I saw it on 
my bank statement. As those who created memberships know, they 
required a CC to confirm something or other.


Anyway, if you have memberships, be sure you cancel or whatever before 
they charge your card unless the parts diagrams are that important to 
you to pay $75/year for membership.


Now, I am trying to get the $75 refunded.

I hope everyine is having a great weekend?

LarryT
91 300D
Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For 
Inexpensive Oil Test Kits!

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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Why in the world would they be putting chains in when it was brought in for a 
simple oil change? Wow.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2016, at 6:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I think I wrote about it before the case was settled.
> 
> There was nothing wrong with the engine. Daughter took it in for routine oil 
> change; nothing else.
> For some reason, mechanic went into the engine, put the chain back wrong, 
> cranked it up, and destroyed the engine; according to dealer.
> Dealer billed her $15K plus $2000 for brake repairs (no engine or brake 
> trouble lights had come on).
> I hooked her up with Continental Imports, an indy I've known for a long time, 
> they put in a new engine, and it has run fine since then.
> Gerry
> 
> "Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> Have we heard this story? I don't remember it. What was the deal with the 
>> engine?
> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 5:32 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Larry. That seems to be a growing racket on programs that are 
>>> periodically renewed. It happened to me on www.malwarebytes.com
>>> Malwarebytes kept my CC number and charged it the following year without my 
>>> permission. Neither the bank nor Visa wanted to make them refund.
>>> I asked the bank twice, and both times they promised to get a refund, but 
>>> they never have. 
>>> 
>>> I've thought about getting a late model Mercedes to replace my two 123's, 
>>> but since a Mercedes dealers mechanics mistake destroyed the engine in my 
>>> daughters '08 GL320cdi, told her she needed a new engine, and charged her 
>>> $2000 for repairing the brakes; (both the engine and the brakes were 
>>> working quite well after a 100 mile highway trip to the dealer when she 
>>> went in for a scheduled oil change.); I've decided to keep the 123s or 
>>> switch to another make. 
>>> Daughter hired a lawyer who made the dealer pay for a new engine from a 
>>> German owned Indy who had it shipped from Germany, and refund the $2000 
>>> which she had not approved, but she was still out $1500 paid to the lawyer 
>>> plus the time, trouble, and travel.
>>> 
>>> Gerry
>>> ~~
>>> Larry T wrote:
 Hi All, 
 I just got a shock - my credit card was charged $75 for a "Membership" in 
 the Parts Program at MB. Don't know about the others but I joined to gain 
 access to their Parts Diagrams. I just learned the program is being 
 managed by a different company which will no longer offer the "Free" 
 subscriptions. The problem is, they have our credit cards on file and I 
 found out they are not shy about charging the cards without much (any?) 
 pre-authorization. At least they didn't in my case. I found my CC had been 
 charged $75 to renew the "Free" membership only when I saw it on my bank 
 statement. As those who created memberships know, they required a CC to 
 confirm something or other. 
 
 Anyway, if you have memberships, be sure you cancel or whatever before 
 they charge your card unless the parts diagrams are that important to you 
 to pay $75/year for membership. 
 
 Now, I am trying to get the $75 refunded. 
 
 I hope everyine is having a great weekend? 
 
 LarryT 
 91 300D 
 Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For 
 Inexpensive Oil Test Kits! 
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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

My last sign-up was in April 2015, my subscription expired this April and when I tried to sign in I was prompted to pay if I wanted to continue, and I didn't. There's no way they could 'accidentally' auto-renew me after that, but of course I didn't save the screen shots of the 'your subscription has expired' session. The annoying part is I don't remember which card I used for the 'we won't charge your card, just give it to us for the Hell of it'. If I do get hit for $75, I'm strongly considering filing a class action against MBZ for credit card fraud, as they're the ones who took my card info under false pretenses. Mitch.
 

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[archer75--- via Mercedes]

It was a weird explanation from the dealer. Daughter had spend thousands with 
the dealer since the car was new. Dealer probably thought she would pay any 
bill without question just like she had always done.
Gerry 

"Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Why in the world would they be putting chains in when it was brought in for a 
> simple oil change? Wow.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 31, 2016, at 6:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I think I wrote about it before the case was settled.
> > 
> > There was nothing wrong with the engine. Daughter took it in for routine 
> > oil change; nothing else.
> > For some reason, mechanic went into the engine, put the chain back wrong, 
> > cranked it up, and destroyed the engine; according to dealer.
> > Dealer billed her $15K plus $2000 for brake repairs (no engine or brake 
> > trouble lights had come on).
> > I hooked her up with Continental Imports, an indy I've known for a long 
> > time, they put in a new engine, and it has run fine since then.
> > Gerry
> > 
> > "Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> >> Have we heard this story? I don't remember it. What was the deal with the 
> >> engine?
> > 
> >>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 5:32 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks, Larry. That seems to be a growing racket on programs that are 
> >>> periodically renewed. It happened to me on www.malwarebytes.com
> >>> Malwarebytes kept my CC number and charged it the following year without 
> >>> my permission. Neither the bank nor Visa wanted to make them refund.
> >>> I asked the bank twice, and both times they promised to get a refund, but 
> >>> they never have. 
> >>> 
> >>> I've thought about getting a late model Mercedes to replace my two 123's, 
> >>> but since a Mercedes dealers mechanics mistake destroyed the engine in my 
> >>> daughters '08 GL320cdi, told her she needed a new engine, and charged her 
> >>> $2000 for repairing the brakes; (both the engine and the brakes were 
> >>> working quite well after a 100 mile highway trip to the dealer when she 
> >>> went in for a scheduled oil change.); I've decided to keep the 123s or 
> >>> switch to another make. 
> >>> Daughter hired a lawyer who made the dealer pay for a new engine from a 
> >>> German owned Indy who had it shipped from Germany, and refund the $2000 
> >>> which she had not approved, but she was still out $1500 paid to the 
> >>> lawyer plus the time, trouble, and travel.
> >>> 
> >>> Gerry
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> >>> Larry T wrote:
>  Hi All, 
>  I just got a shock - my credit card was charged $75 for a "Membership" 
>  in the Parts Program at MB. Don't know about the others but I joined to 
>  gain access to their Parts Diagrams. I just learned the program is being 
>  managed by a different company which will no longer offer the "Free" 
>  subscriptions. The problem is, they have our credit cards on file and I 
>  found out they are not shy about charging the cards without much (any?) 
>  pre-authorization. At least they didn't in my case. I found my CC had 
>  been charged $75 to renew the "Free" membership only when I saw it on my 
>  bank statement. As those who created memberships know, they required a 
>  CC to confirm something or other. 
>  
>  Anyway, if you have memberships, be sure you cancel or whatever before 
>  they charge your card unless the parts diagrams are that important to 
>  you to pay $75/year for membership. 
>  
>  Now, I am trying to get the $75 refunded. 
>  
>  I hope everyine is having a great weekend? 
>  
>  LarryT 
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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Ecklers  has good diagrams for free   but I don't know how they compare to
MB

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Jul 31, 2016 4:30 PM, "Larry T via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Hi All,
> I just got a shock - my credit card was charged $75 for a "Membership" in
> the Parts Program at MB. Don't know about the others but I joined to gain
> access to their Parts Diagrams. I just learned the program is being managed
> by a different company which will no longer off the "Free" subscriptions.
> The problem is, they have our credit cards on file and I found out they are
> not shy about charging the cards without much (any?)
> pre-authorization. At least they didn't in my case. I found my CC had been
> charged $75 to renew the "Free" membership only when I saw it on my bank
> statement. As those who created memberships know, they required a CC to
> confirm something or other.
>
> Anyway, if you have memberships, be sure you cancel or whatever before
> they charge your card unless the parts diagrams are that important to you
> to pay $75/year for membership.
>
> Now, I am trying to get the $75 refunded.
>
> I hope everyine is having a great weekend?
>
> LarryT
> 91 300D
> Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For
> Inexpensive Oil Test Kits!
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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Sadly I'm told the same thing is true of VW dealers when it comes to TDIs. 
Apparently the TDI timing belt tensioner installs opposite of how the gassers 
do and the dealer "techs" routinely install them backwards trashing the belt in 
short order and quickly leading to the demise of the engine.
VW dealers are also known for often putting the wrong oil into TDIs...
-Curt

  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 7:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership 
Fee will be charged/
   
Moral of the story is: "don't trust the stealer for anything."  There is 
a reason they are called stealers.  YMMV.

Gerry, same reason I decided to keep the 123 240Ds. (and 124 300Ds and SDLs)

> archer75--- via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> July 31, 2016 at 5:32 PM
> Thanks, Larry. That seems to be a growing racket on programs that are 
> periodically renewed. It happened to me on www.malwarebytes.com
> Malwarebytes kept my CC number and charged it the following year 
> without my permission. Neither the bank nor Visa wanted to make them 
> refund.
> I asked the bank twice, and both times they promised to get a refund, 
> but they never have.
>
> I've thought about getting a late model Mercedes to replace my two 
> 123's, but since a Mercedes dealers mechanics mistake destroyed the 
> engine in my daughters '08 GL320cdi, told her she needed a new engine, 
> and charged her $2000 for repairing the brakes; (both the engine and 
> the brakes were working quite well after a 100 mile highway trip to 
> the dealer when she went in for a scheduled oil change.); I've decided 
> to keep the 123s or switch to another make.
> Daughter hired a lawyer who made the dealer pay for a new engine from 
> a German owned Indy who had it shipped from Germany, and refund the 
> $2000 which she had not approved, but she was still out $1500 paid to 
> the lawyer plus the time, trouble, and travel.
>
> Gerry
> ~~
>
>
> Larry T via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> July 31, 2016 at 3:30 PM
> Hi All,
> I just got a shock - my credit card was charged $75 for a "Membership" 
> in the Parts Program at MB. Don't know about the others but I joined 
> to gain access to their Parts Diagrams. I just learned the program is 
> being managed by a different company which will no longer off the 
> "Free" subscriptions. The problem is, they have our credit cards on 
> file and I found out they are not shy about charging the cards without 
> much (any?)
> pre-authorization. At least they didn't in my case. I found my CC had 
> been charged $75 to renew the "Free" membership only when I saw it on 
> my bank statement. As those who created memberships know, they 
> required a CC to confirm something or other.
>
> Anyway, if you have memberships, be sure you cancel or whatever before 
> they charge your card unless the parts diagrams are that important to 
> you to pay $75/year for membership.
>
> Now, I am trying to get the $75 refunded.
>
> I hope everyine is having a great weekend?
>
> LarryT
> 91 300D
> Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For 
> Inexpensive Oil Test Kits!
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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

My subscription is still in expired status, but there's a link right on the login page to "Renew my subscription".Is there any chance that Gerry clicked the "renew" link?
 

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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[Larry T via Mercedes]

You might want to check your statement for the time frame around your 
subscription expiration just to be sure. 
YMMV, 
LarryT 
91 300D 

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From: "Mitch Haley via Mercedes"  
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Cc: "Mitch Haley"  
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 7:14:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership 
Fee will be charged/ 



My subscription is still in expired status, but there's a link right on the 
login page to "Renew my subscription". 





Is there any chance that Gerry clicked the "renew" link? 

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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Hi Mitch,
If you're referring to Malwarebytes, not likely because I didn't access their 
website until I saw the charge on my credit card statement, had no reason to.
If you're referring to epc.startekinfo, that wasn't me. I don't belong; never 
have.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] MB Parts Accounts at epc.startekinfo.com -- $75 Membership Fee will be charged/

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Checked my credit card statements, no charge yet, and my EPC-online account
now shows expired.  I think perhaps the card I used to renew last time
around was subsequently replaced with a new card, so what "they" had on
file would not have worked if they tried to charge it.

How can we voice our displeasure?  I'm going to send an email to Tom Hanson
and also MBNorthlake, let them know that this move is going to make it more
difficult to order dealer parts, which will probably result in fewer sales
to me.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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