Re: [MBZ] Need an airplane?
Yes... Sing Sing Prison... It is a Federal Crime to falsify log books or component records and,, the FAA prosecutes with vengeance . Do not go there, ever.. is the message on aircraft.. if you don't go to jail, at minimum, your repairman license will be revoked, and you will pay huge fines. ie.. you will never work in aviation again... any action against you becomes part of permanent record at FAA... so you will never be "forgotten"... As Walter Beech used to say, each year the new models were revealed.. "Come to the Airport and bring money, the new Beechcraft are here." On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 9:38 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Like car titles and states, is there a preferred place or vendor to “wash” > log books? > > -D > > > On Jun 4, 2020, at 12:34 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Years ago, during the coke era... there were hundreds of seized aircraft > > that were "single use and dump" on the government auction sales site, if > > you knew were to look and bid. > > > > Over those years, I bought, repaired, and sold half dozen of them... > Major > > issue with them was always log books and documenting condition of life > > cycles and hour limit items... it always cost more for the log > > reconstruction than it did for the aircraft... > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Should be fine for a coupla late night trips across the border to haul > >> some agricultural products. Should pay for itself pretty quickly. > >> > >> --FT > >> > >> On 6/4/20 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > >>> Since the ad is written in Mex/Spanish... I can only assume the > aircraft > >>> was operated in Mexico... which raises every alarm in the book for > >>> maintenance and log book cooking... > >>> Pre Buy inspection to the rivets verify log entries to the ink > used > >>> and A certifications and IA license... > >>> > >>> The retract gear on this model is not tolerant of a lot of things and > >> prone > >>> to failures another item to be inspected carefully... This is not a > >>> "quick look inspection prior to purchase" kind of airplane... > >>> > >>> Good luck I pass > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 9:01 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > The Mercedes of the air! > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jun 3, 2020, at 9:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>> > wrote: > > Nothing is more expensive than a cheap airplane - especially one > with > > retractable gear! And yes, that is cheap > > > >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:56 PM Craig via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/hvo/d/flagstaff-cessna-182rg-1982/7134950555.html > >> 982 CESSNA 182RG SKYLANE II > >> > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time > to > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > > Von Braun > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> -- > >> --FT > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] Need an airplane?
Like car titles and states, is there a preferred place or vendor to “wash” log books? -D > On Jun 4, 2020, at 12:34 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Years ago, during the coke era... there were hundreds of seized aircraft > that were "single use and dump" on the government auction sales site, if > you knew were to look and bid. > > Over those years, I bought, repaired, and sold half dozen of them... Major > issue with them was always log books and documenting condition of life > cycles and hour limit items... it always cost more for the log > reconstruction than it did for the aircraft... > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Should be fine for a coupla late night trips across the border to haul >> some agricultural products. Should pay for itself pretty quickly. >> >> --FT >> >> On 6/4/20 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: >>> Since the ad is written in Mex/Spanish... I can only assume the aircraft >>> was operated in Mexico... which raises every alarm in the book for >>> maintenance and log book cooking... >>> Pre Buy inspection to the rivets verify log entries to the ink used >>> and A certifications and IA license... >>> >>> The retract gear on this model is not tolerant of a lot of things and >> prone >>> to failures another item to be inspected carefully... This is not a >>> "quick look inspection prior to purchase" kind of airplane... >>> >>> Good luck I pass >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 9:01 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> The Mercedes of the air! --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 3, 2020, at 9:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes >> wrote: > Nothing is more expensive than a cheap airplane - especially one with > retractable gear! And yes, that is cheap > >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:56 PM Craig via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/hvo/d/flagstaff-cessna-182rg-1982/7134950555.html >> 982 CESSNA 182RG SKYLANE II >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> -- >> --FT >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need an airplane?
Years ago, during the coke era... there were hundreds of seized aircraft that were "single use and dump" on the government auction sales site, if you knew were to look and bid. Over those years, I bought, repaired, and sold half dozen of them... Major issue with them was always log books and documenting condition of life cycles and hour limit items... it always cost more for the log reconstruction than it did for the aircraft... On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Should be fine for a coupla late night trips across the border to haul > some agricultural products. Should pay for itself pretty quickly. > > --FT > > On 6/4/20 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > Since the ad is written in Mex/Spanish... I can only assume the aircraft > > was operated in Mexico... which raises every alarm in the book for > > maintenance and log book cooking... > > Pre Buy inspection to the rivets verify log entries to the ink used > > and A certifications and IA license... > > > > The retract gear on this model is not tolerant of a lot of things and > prone > > to failures another item to be inspected carefully... This is not a > > "quick look inspection prior to purchase" kind of airplane... > > > > Good luck I pass > > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 9:01 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> The Mercedes of the air! > >> > >> --FT > >> Sent from iPhone > >> > >>> On Jun 3, 2020, at 9:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > > >> wrote: > >>> Nothing is more expensive than a cheap airplane - especially one with > >>> retractable gear! And yes, that is cheap > >>> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:56 PM Craig via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > > > >> > https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/hvo/d/flagstaff-cessna-182rg-1982/7134950555.html > 982 CESSNA 182RG SKYLANE II > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >>> -- > >>> OK Don > >>> > >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain > >>> > >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > >> Wernher > >>> Von Braun > >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg > >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need an airplane?
Should be fine for a coupla late night trips across the border to haul some agricultural products. Should pay for itself pretty quickly. --FT On 6/4/20 11:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Since the ad is written in Mex/Spanish... I can only assume the aircraft was operated in Mexico... which raises every alarm in the book for maintenance and log book cooking... Pre Buy inspection to the rivets verify log entries to the ink used and A certifications and IA license... The retract gear on this model is not tolerant of a lot of things and prone to failures another item to be inspected carefully... This is not a "quick look inspection prior to purchase" kind of airplane... Good luck I pass On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 9:01 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: The Mercedes of the air! --FT Sent from iPhone On Jun 3, 2020, at 9:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Nothing is more expensive than a cheap airplane - especially one with retractable gear! And yes, that is cheap On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:56 PM Craig via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/hvo/d/flagstaff-cessna-182rg-1982/7134950555.html 982 CESSNA 182RG SKYLANE II Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need an airplane?
Since the ad is written in Mex/Spanish... I can only assume the aircraft was operated in Mexico... which raises every alarm in the book for maintenance and log book cooking... Pre Buy inspection to the rivets verify log entries to the ink used and A certifications and IA license... The retract gear on this model is not tolerant of a lot of things and prone to failures another item to be inspected carefully... This is not a "quick look inspection prior to purchase" kind of airplane... Good luck I pass On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 9:01 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The Mercedes of the air! > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jun 3, 2020, at 9:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Nothing is more expensive than a cheap airplane - especially one with > > retractable gear! And yes, that is cheap > > > >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:56 PM Craig via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/hvo/d/flagstaff-cessna-182rg-1982/7134950555.html > >> > >> 982 CESSNA 182RG SKYLANE II > >> > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > > Von Braun > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need an airplane?
The Mercedes of the air! --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 3, 2020, at 9:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > Nothing is more expensive than a cheap airplane - especially one with > retractable gear! And yes, that is cheap > >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:56 PM Craig via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/hvo/d/flagstaff-cessna-182rg-1982/7134950555.html >> >> 982 CESSNA 182RG SKYLANE II >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need an airplane?
Nothing is more expensive than a cheap airplane - especially one with retractable gear! And yes, that is cheap On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:56 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > > https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/hvo/d/flagstaff-cessna-182rg-1982/7134950555.html > > 982 CESSNA 182RG SKYLANE II > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Need an airplane?
https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/hvo/d/flagstaff-cessna-182rg-1982/7134950555.html 982 CESSNA 182RG SKYLANE II Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
