Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?
Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires. Maybe the car will float...ah, but then we'd probably have to certify it as Experimental or something with the FAA. Hey, turf war between EPA, DOT, NHTSA, and FAA, and who knows what other agencies would join in? Wow, I gotta get on the road again. Tom (can't wait to leave) Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 04:09 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna get you much. But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know. --R ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?
Tom Reynolds wrote: Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires. Maybe the car will float...ah, but then we'd probably have to certify it as Experimental or something with the FAA. When the U-2 spy plane was under development, there was a huge push to reduce weight. Every few pounds less weight meant a higher maximum altitude. There was a reward for any engineer who could think of a way to save weight. One guy suggested filling the landing gear tires with helium. The story goes that they actually tried it, but found the small helium molecules leaked out too quickly through the rubber.
Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?
Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires. Talk about a leakdown special! But maybe screeching around corners would get all high and squeaky? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?
Now that would cause problems -- helium atoms are very very tiny, and leak out of anything not metal, fairly quickly (think helium balloon vs one with air). I think they would migrate through the rubber pretty quickly. --R Tom Reynolds wrote: Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires. Maybe the car will float...ah, but then we'd probably have to certify it as Experimental or something with the FAA. Hey, turf war between EPA, DOT, NHTSA, and FAA, and who knows what other agencies would join in? Wow, I gotta get on the road again. Tom (can't wait to leave) Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 04:09 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna get you much. But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know. --R ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?
Well, we don't want to try hydrogen, do we? grin Tom At 06:30 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Now that would cause problems -- helium atoms are very very tiny, and leak out of anything not metal, fairly quickly (think helium balloon vs one with air). I think they would migrate through the rubber pretty quickly. --R Tom Reynolds wrote: Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires. Maybe the car will float...ah, but then we'd probably have to certify it as Experimental or something with the FAA. Hey, turf war between EPA, DOT, NHTSA, and FAA, and who knows what other agencies would join in? Wow, I gotta get on the road again. Tom (can't wait to leave) Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 04:09 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna get you much. But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know. --R ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?
Why not? As long as no Oxy can get to it. Never mind, I'm forgetting, ail leaks through tires. How about Argon. That stuff is expensive. It better be the better jet. On 12/15/05, Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, we don't want to try hydrogen, do we? grin Tom At 06:30 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Now that would cause problems -- helium atoms are very very tiny, and leak out of anything not metal, fairly quickly (think helium balloon vs one with air). I think they would migrate through the rubber pretty quickly. --R Tom Reynolds wrote: Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires. Maybe the car will float...ah, but then we'd probably have to certify it as Experimental or something with the FAA. Hey, turf war between EPA, DOT, NHTSA, and FAA, and who knows what other agencies would join in? Wow, I gotta get on the road again. Tom (can't wait to leave) Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 04:09 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna get you much. But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know. --R ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?
Is there a rash of 123, 124, 114, 126, and 201 Mercedes DIESELS out there that are so highly tuned and performance driven that you need nitrogen in your tires? Is there a rash of flat tires out there that I don't know about? No disrespect, but this sounds crazy. I do understand if I am out driving around in a Nascar event I want to take advantage of every possible scientific breakthrough. It makes sense that if I am running 180 mph. I don't want the air pressure in my tires to change based on the temperature. I get that, it makes sense. But, holy cow does it make that much difference in your everyday 123/124 etc. Mercedes diesel? More importantly, why aren't you taking advantage of the other safety precautions that are available to NASCAR drivers. Who's going to be the first to install a roll cage? Does anyone have five-point safety harnesses? Speaking of tires - is anybody using racing slicks? Now that the weather is cooler, I guess we will all be more comfortable in our flame retardant suits. My plan has always been: 1. Buy good tires. 2. Don't run over things. 3. Check the tire pressure when I change the oil. 4. Glance at the tires when I am about to get into the car and see if all four tires are there and appear moderately round. 5. If a tire leaks - I replace it. 6. If a wheel is bent/corroded/rusted/possessed by evil spirits and it is causing the tire to leak, I replace the wheel. Again, no disrespect, just being a smart ass. Donald H. Snook
Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?
If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna get you much. But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know. --R
Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?
Oh, I've already got one of those tornado generators on my Benz, it helps power a lot. It's called a turbo. (: Levi On 12/15/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna get you much. But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know. --R
Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?
I don't have a turbo, so I figured this device would be the next best thing, after I put on the R sticker. --R Levi Smith wrote: Oh, I've already got one of those tornado generators on my Benz, it helps power a lot. It's called a turbo. (: Levi On 12/15/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna get you much. But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know. --R ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?
Ohh yeah, that's good for 10-20HP right there. Just make sure you paint your car yellow and put stickers on it (each one is good for another 2HP) Then get a 9 exhaust tip. At that point you'll have at least doubled your power! Levi (: On 12/15/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have a turbo, so I figured this device would be the next best thing, after I put on the R sticker. --R Levi Smith wrote: Oh, I've already got one of those tornado generators on my Benz, it helps power a lot. It's called a turbo. (: Levi On 12/15/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna get you much. But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know. --R
