Re: [MBZ] OT: Bicycle repair

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thats the only way I've ever seen a freewheel removed.
I discovered last night that the bolt (for lack of a better, or correct, term) 
that goes through the wheel seems to be bent on the freewheel side. However the 
bend is outside of the wheel so the wheel spins true, weird...
-Curt

  From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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It's probably got caged bearings in it, in which case you can't take out the 
right side balls and clean them without the freewheel remover, but you can 
still take off the left side bearing cone and locknut and slide the axle out to 
the right and pack some grease in there. 
I suspect the bearing cones will be heavily pitted. Up to you whether to buy 
new cones and balls or just grease it all up and put it back together. 
If it's got loose balls, you can do pretty much anything you want with the 
bearings without removing the freewheel, but it's a PITA to work on the right 
side because it's buried behind the freewheel. 

Removing a freewheel that hasn't been disturbed in 30 years is a different sort 
of fun. 
I'd suggest using the axle nut to hold the freewheel tool in full engagement, 
clamp the tool in a vise, and turn the wheel with both hands.
As soon as it starts turning, you've got to stop and loosen the axle nut.

On July 12, 2016 at 9:33 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
wrote:
Ya gotta remove the gear cluster to do rear hub = special tool.
mao




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bicycle repair

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

It's probably got caged bearings in it, in which case you can't take out the right side balls and clean them without the freewheel remover, but you can still take off the left side bearing cone and locknut and slide the axle out to the right and pack some grease in there. I suspect the bearing cones will be heavily pitted. Up to you whether to buy new cones and balls or just grease it all up and put it back together. If it's got loose balls, you can do pretty much anything you want with the bearings without removing the freewheel, but it's a PITA to work on the right side because it's buried behind the freewheel. Removing a freewheel that hasn't been disturbed in 30 years is a different sort of fun. I'd suggest using the axle nut to hold the freewheel tool in full engagement, clamp the tool in a vise, and turn the wheel with both hands.As soon as it starts turning, you've got to stop and loosen the axle nut.On July 12, 2016 at 9:33 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes  wrote:Ya gotta remove the gear cluster to do rear hub = special tool.mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bicycle repair

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yup, I ventured into it tonight to see what tool it'd need, standard splined 
Shamino. I discovered that I can easily adjust the play out but I accidentally 
loosened it again while installing the wheel. The derailleur is attached with 
the wheel nut and has a little spacer so it can't rotate, makes centering the 
wheel a bit of a pain. Quit for the night before I did something dumb.
I'll order the tool so I can grease the bearing, who knows when that was last 
done ...
Curt  

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  On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Mountain Man wrote:   
Curt wrote:
> ...on inspection I found the rear hub has about 1/8" of play...

Ya gotta remove the gear cluster to do rear hub = special tool.
mao
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bicycle repair

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curt wrote:
> ...on inspection I found the rear hub has about 1/8" of play...

Ya gotta remove the gear cluster to do rear hub = special tool.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bicycle repair

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 15:05:10 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Is M1 a decent grease for the job?

With as low as the loading on the axle is, just about any grease would
suffice. M1 is better than just any grease.

If you wanted to go whole hog, you could use Amsoil GPTR2 Synthetic
Polymeric Truck, Chassis and Equipment Grease,
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/grease/synthetic-polymeric-truck-chassis-and-equipment-grease-nlgi-2/?code=GPTR2CR-EA
 .

I did an extensive review of greases when I selected the grease to use on
our utility trailer's wheel bearings. GPTR2 came out on top.

Attached is the spreadsheet I developed showing the results of my
research.


Craig


Grease.Comparison.ods
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bicycle repair

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Should be lots of youtube videos on that sort of thing too.
I looked at a couple before working on the old Raleigh that I had posted 
about.


RB

On 12/07/2016 10:07 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Should be easy enough, fresh grease and play adjustment will probably cure
that.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I remember some discussion of bicycles on here recently.
Yesterday after a ride Angie complained that her bike "felt funny" on
inspection I found the rear hub has about 1/8" of play... This is a "Free
Spirit" 10spd probably from the early '80s or late '70s. Looks like it was
probably sold by Sears, looks just like:
http://www.sweatershoppe.com/bicycles/258-5820-8x6.jpg
So I've done some Googling and the hub rebuild looks pretty easy though
I've got to get in there and see what kind of tool I'll need to get it
apart. I'm thinking to pull it apart, grease with some Mobil 1 axle grease
and reassemble. Looks like some hubs have adjustable free-play, hoping
thats the case here...
Thoughts? Is M1 a decent grease for the job?
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bicycle repair

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Should be easy enough, fresh grease and play adjustment will probably cure
that.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I remember some discussion of bicycles on here recently.
> Yesterday after a ride Angie complained that her bike "felt funny" on
> inspection I found the rear hub has about 1/8" of play... This is a "Free
> Spirit" 10spd probably from the early '80s or late '70s. Looks like it was
> probably sold by Sears, looks just like:
> http://www.sweatershoppe.com/bicycles/258-5820-8x6.jpg
> So I've done some Googling and the hub rebuild looks pretty easy though
> I've got to get in there and see what kind of tool I'll need to get it
> apart. I'm thinking to pull it apart, grease with some Mobil 1 axle grease
> and reassemble. Looks like some hubs have adjustable free-play, hoping
> thats the case here...
> Thoughts? Is M1 a decent grease for the job?
> -Curt
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[MBZ] OT: Bicycle repair

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I remember some discussion of bicycles on here recently.
Yesterday after a ride Angie complained that her bike "felt funny" on 
inspection I found the rear hub has about 1/8" of play... This is a "Free 
Spirit" 10spd probably from the early '80s or late '70s. Looks like it was 
probably sold by Sears, looks just like: 
http://www.sweatershoppe.com/bicycles/258-5820-8x6.jpg
So I've done some Googling and the hub rebuild looks pretty easy though I've 
got to get in there and see what kind of tool I'll need to get it apart. I'm 
thinking to pull it apart, grease with some Mobil 1 axle grease and reassemble. 
Looks like some hubs have adjustable free-play, hoping thats the case here...
Thoughts? Is M1 a decent grease for the job?
-Curt
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