Re: [MBZ] OT - Nylon Roller
Thanks Wilton. I do have to admit we were quite pleased with ourselves for getting it solved reasonably quickly. One always knows it can be done but it can be an issue of spending more time looking for a suitable part than it is worth. We could have bought the whole regulator out of the USA for about $125 so we could not spend hours upon hours looking for parts to repair the rollers. I had found a different type before I got the shower door rollers at Home Depot. The other set came from Lee Valley and is intended for guiding doors in a cabinet. They might have worked but I did not have confidence in the material they were made of and was afraid they might not last long. They too were slightly big and I had not really determined a way to reduce their size. I might have been able to do something similar to what I ultimately did with the shower door rollers but I would have had to find a means of attachment as they did not have the threaded stud. They were intended to be attached with a woodscrew to a cabinet. In any event, I was very happy to solve the problem. Randy On 01/11/2012 10:31 AM, WILTON wrote: ATTABOY! 'Zackly what I had in mind. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Nylon Roller On 31/10/2012 9:57 PM, WILTON wrote: Who was wanting a nylon roller for a window coupla weeks ago? Check this - screen door roller, $1.50/pair. http://stores.nextag.com/store/4798097/product/949410355/Nylon-Roller Wilton ___ It was me Wilton. I don't know if I ever posted the result of our search for a reasonable repair solution. I found rollers intended for a shower door at Home Depot. As luck would have it, they were almost perfect - just a wee bit too big in diameter. I used a simple jig to make them a bit smaller: - a strip of wood with a hole drilled in it to attach the roller - then clamped that in a vice - then pushed it into a sanding drum on the drill press a little bit and clamped down the vice - then rotated the roller to evenly reduce the size of the nylon roller by a little bit so it would fit into the channel. The rollers came with a threaded stud so it made attachment to the regulator on the truck very easy. We just ground off the original rivet and bolted these in with a bit of locktite. It works fine. Cost was about $5 and that was double what it could have been as I bought 2 sets in case I was not successful with my first try (I had not figured out how I was going to reduce the size when I was in Home Depot). So, I have a spare set - if I can find them if I ever need them again. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Nylon Roller
ATTABOY! 'Zackly what I had in mind. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Nylon Roller On 31/10/2012 9:57 PM, WILTON wrote: Who was wanting a nylon roller for a window coupla weeks ago? Check this - screen door roller, $1.50/pair. http://stores.nextag.com/store/4798097/product/949410355/Nylon-Roller Wilton ___ It was me Wilton. I don't know if I ever posted the result of our search for a reasonable repair solution. I found rollers intended for a shower door at Home Depot. As luck would have it, they were almost perfect - just a wee bit too big in diameter. I used a simple jig to make them a bit smaller: - a strip of wood with a hole drilled in it to attach the roller - then clamped that in a vice - then pushed it into a sanding drum on the drill press a little bit and clamped down the vice - then rotated the roller to evenly reduce the size of the nylon roller by a little bit so it would fit into the channel. The rollers came with a threaded stud so it made attachment to the regulator on the truck very easy. We just ground off the original rivet and bolted these in with a bit of locktite. It works fine. Cost was about $5 and that was double what it could have been as I bought 2 sets in case I was not successful with my first try (I had not figured out how I was going to reduce the size when I was in Home Depot). So, I have a spare set - if I can find them if I ever need them again. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Nylon Roller
On 31/10/2012 9:57 PM, WILTON wrote: Who was wanting a nylon roller for a window coupla weeks ago? Check this - screen door roller, $1.50/pair. http://stores.nextag.com/store/4798097/product/949410355/Nylon-Roller Wilton ___ It was me Wilton. I don't know if I ever posted the result of our search for a reasonable repair solution. I found rollers intended for a shower door at Home Depot. As luck would have it, they were almost perfect - just a wee bit too big in diameter. I used a simple jig to make them a bit smaller: - a strip of wood with a hole drilled in it to attach the roller - then clamped that in a vice - then pushed it into a sanding drum on the drill press a little bit and clamped down the vice - then rotated the roller to evenly reduce the size of the nylon roller by a little bit so it would fit into the channel. The rollers came with a threaded stud so it made attachment to the regulator on the truck very easy. We just ground off the original rivet and bolted these in with a bit of locktite. It works fine. Cost was about $5 and that was double what it could have been as I bought 2 sets in case I was not successful with my first try (I had not figured out how I was going to reduce the size when I was in Home Depot). So, I have a spare set - if I can find them if I ever need them again. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Nylon Roller
Who was wanting a nylon roller for a window coupla weeks ago? Check this - screen door roller, $1.50/pair. http://stores.nextag.com/store/4798097/product/949410355/Nylon-Roller Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
All good ideas. Thanks to all. Don't have a photo. Have only a part of the broken roller so I could guess from it. Still one on the other side that I can measure with calipers but it is on the back side of the arm and thus not easy to get a look at. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
Or gliding/sliding closet door rollers?
Wilton
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From: "Gerry Archer"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
If there is a (hopefully large) Ace Hardware across the border or in
Canada, they have the best selection I've ever found of those sorts of
items and usually knowledgeable clerks who know how to find them.
Gerry
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From: "WILTON"
To: "mercedes list"
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:36 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
Google nylon rollers.
How 'bout bi-fold door top guide rollers?
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "WILTON"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
I've noticed bins of many different sizes screws, bolts, grommets,
etc., at large hardware stores such as Lowes. I think I vaguely
remember also seeing a selection of nylon rollers there several months
ago (can't be sure). 'May be worth checking, though. One slightly too
small or too big could probably work fine; larger one could be
ground/cut down, too.
How 'bout the nylon MB window rollers from Rusty? ('Thought for a
minute I had one here to measure for you, but can't find it - 'musta
used it.) Maybe another lister has one to measure for you.
Wilton
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From: "Randy Bennell"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:42 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
This is obviously something difficult to answer given the subject, but
you folks always have good ideas so I am throwing it out to you.
My younger son drives our old 95 Toyota 4Runner through the winters.
This is the last model that had the old style station wagon type rear
tailgate and window setup.
The window parts tend to rust and have to be repaired periodically.
I did it once in about 2001 or 2 and it needs it again.
The parts are available if a bit expensive.
I have ordered the pieces and they should be in tomorrow.
There are tracks for lack of a better description that the glass sits
in. There are rubber inserts and metal channels that sit on the bottom
of the glass.
The regulator moves the glass up and down via an electric motor.
The regulator arms have nylon rollers that sit in the channels on the
bottom of the glass.
One of the nylon rollers has broken off. They are not available
separately from Toyota. They would sell us the whole regulator
assembly. I was afraid to ask how much and also think it would be a
bit of a bear to swap a new one it.
So, does anyone have any good ideas on replacement of the roller.
My basic thoughts are to see if the ones on some drawer slides are of
a similar size and might be swapped in in some manner.
Another thought is to make something out of a suitable plastic.
Randy
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Re: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
If there is a (hopefully large) Ace Hardware across the border or in Canada,
they have the best selection I've ever found of those sorts of items and
usually knowledgeable clerks who know how to find them.
Gerry
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From: "WILTON"
To: "mercedes list"
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:36 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
Google nylon rollers.
How 'bout bi-fold door top guide rollers?
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "WILTON"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
I've noticed bins of many different sizes screws, bolts, grommets, etc.,
at large hardware stores such as Lowes. I think I vaguely remember also
seeing a selection of nylon rollers there several months ago (can't be
sure). 'May be worth checking, though. One slightly too small or too
big could probably work fine; larger one could be ground/cut down, too.
How 'bout the nylon MB window rollers from Rusty? ('Thought for a
minute I had one here to measure for you, but can't find it - 'musta
used it.) Maybe another lister has one to measure for you.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Randy Bennell"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:42 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
This is obviously something difficult to answer given the subject, but
you folks always have good ideas so I am throwing it out to you.
My younger son drives our old 95 Toyota 4Runner through the winters.
This is the last model that had the old style station wagon type rear
tailgate and window setup.
The window parts tend to rust and have to be repaired periodically.
I did it once in about 2001 or 2 and it needs it again.
The parts are available if a bit expensive.
I have ordered the pieces and they should be in tomorrow.
There are tracks for lack of a better description that the glass sits
in. There are rubber inserts and metal channels that sit on the bottom
of the glass.
The regulator moves the glass up and down via an electric motor.
The regulator arms have nylon rollers that sit in the channels on the
bottom of the glass.
One of the nylon rollers has broken off. They are not available
separately from Toyota. They would sell us the whole regulator
assembly. I was afraid to ask how much and also think it would be a bit
of a bear to swap a new one it.
So, does anyone have any good ideas on replacement of the roller.
My basic thoughts are to see if the ones on some drawer slides are of a
similar size and might be swapped in in some manner.
Another thought is to make something out of a suitable plastic.
Randy
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[MBZ] OT - nylon roller
Google nylon rollers.
How 'bout bi-fold door top guide rollers?
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "WILTON"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
I've noticed bins of many different sizes screws, bolts, grommets, etc.,
at large hardware stores such as Lowes. I think I vaguely remember also
seeing a selection of nylon rollers there several months ago (can't be
sure). 'May be worth checking, though. One slightly too small or too
big could probably work fine; larger one could be ground/cut down, too.
How 'bout the nylon MB window rollers from Rusty? ('Thought for a minute
I had one here to measure for you, but can't find it - 'musta used it.)
Maybe another lister has one to measure for you.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Randy Bennell"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:42 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
This is obviously something difficult to answer given the subject, but
you folks always have good ideas so I am throwing it out to you.
My younger son drives our old 95 Toyota 4Runner through the winters.
This is the last model that had the old style station wagon type rear
tailgate and window setup.
The window parts tend to rust and have to be repaired periodically.
I did it once in about 2001 or 2 and it needs it again.
The parts are available if a bit expensive.
I have ordered the pieces and they should be in tomorrow.
There are tracks for lack of a better description that the glass sits
in. There are rubber inserts and metal channels that sit on the bottom
of the glass.
The regulator moves the glass up and down via an electric motor.
The regulator arms have nylon rollers that sit in the channels on the
bottom of the glass.
One of the nylon rollers has broken off. They are not available
separately from Toyota. They would sell us the whole regulator assembly.
I was afraid to ask how much and also think it would be a bit of a bear
to swap a new one it.
So, does anyone have any good ideas on replacement of the roller.
My basic thoughts are to see if the ones on some drawer slides are of a
similar size and might be swapped in in some manner.
Another thought is to make something out of a suitable plastic.
Randy
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Re: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
What are the dimensions? Edge contoured or flat? Picture? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Randy Bennell wrote: >This is obviously something difficult to answer given the subject, but >you folks always have good ideas so I am throwing it out to you. > >My younger son drives our old 95 Toyota 4Runner through the winters. >This is the last model that had the old style station wagon type rear >tailgate and window setup. >The window parts tend to rust and have to be repaired periodically. >I did it once in about 2001 or 2 and it needs it again. >The parts are available if a bit expensive. >I have ordered the pieces and they should be in tomorrow. > >There are tracks for lack of a better description that the glass sits >in. There are rubber inserts and metal channels that sit on the bottom >of the glass. >The regulator moves the glass up and down via an electric motor. >The regulator arms have nylon rollers that sit in the channels on the >bottom of the glass. >One of the nylon rollers has broken off. They are not available >separately from Toyota. They would sell us the whole regulator >assembly. >I was afraid to ask how much and also think it would be a bit of a bear > >to swap a new one it. > >So, does anyone have any good ideas on replacement of the roller. >My basic thoughts are to see if the ones on some drawer slides are of a > >similar size and might be swapped in in some manner. >Another thought is to make something out of a suitable plastic. > >Randy > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
Yes I was going to suggest both things -- the Ace Hardware has quite a
selection of random bit, and the MB window roller thingies might be a
close fit, though bodging them into your setup might be troublesome.
The other thing might be to turn some out of brass or some other soft
metal (aluminum?) and just keep it all greased to keep rolling well.
--R
On 10/16/12 1:03 PM, WILTON wrote:
I've noticed bins of many different sizes screws, bolts, grommets,
etc., at large hardware stores such as Lowes. I think I vaguely
remember also seeing a selection of nylon rollers there several months
ago (can't be sure). 'May be worth checking, though. One slightly
too small or too big could probably work fine; larger one could be
ground/cut down, too.
How 'bout the nylon MB window rollers from Rusty? ('Thought for a
minute I had one here to measure for you, but can't find it - 'musta
used it.) Maybe another lister has one to measure for you.
Wilton
- Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:42 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
This is obviously something difficult to answer given the subject,
but you folks always have good ideas so I am throwing it out to you.
My younger son drives our old 95 Toyota 4Runner through the winters.
This is the last model that had the old style station wagon type rear
tailgate and window setup.
The window parts tend to rust and have to be repaired periodically.
I did it once in about 2001 or 2 and it needs it again.
The parts are available if a bit expensive.
I have ordered the pieces and they should be in tomorrow.
There are tracks for lack of a better description that the glass sits
in. There are rubber inserts and metal channels that sit on the
bottom of the glass.
The regulator moves the glass up and down via an electric motor.
The regulator arms have nylon rollers that sit in the channels on the
bottom of the glass.
One of the nylon rollers has broken off. They are not available
separately from Toyota. They would sell us the whole regulator
assembly. I was afraid to ask how much and also think it would be a
bit of a bear to swap a new one it.
So, does anyone have any good ideas on replacement of the roller.
My basic thoughts are to see if the ones on some drawer slides are of
a similar size and might be swapped in in some manner.
Another thought is to make something out of a suitable plastic.
Randy
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Re: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
I've noticed bins of many different sizes screws, bolts, grommets, etc., at
large hardware stores such as Lowes. I think I vaguely remember also seeing
a selection of nylon rollers there several months ago (can't be sure). 'May
be worth checking, though. One slightly too small or too big could probably
work fine; larger one could be ground/cut down, too.
How 'bout the nylon MB window rollers from Rusty? ('Thought for a minute I
had one here to measure for you, but can't find it - 'musta used it.) Maybe
another lister has one to measure for you.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Randy Bennell"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:42 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - nylon roller
This is obviously something difficult to answer given the subject, but you
folks always have good ideas so I am throwing it out to you.
My younger son drives our old 95 Toyota 4Runner through the winters.
This is the last model that had the old style station wagon type rear
tailgate and window setup.
The window parts tend to rust and have to be repaired periodically.
I did it once in about 2001 or 2 and it needs it again.
The parts are available if a bit expensive.
I have ordered the pieces and they should be in tomorrow.
There are tracks for lack of a better description that the glass sits in.
There are rubber inserts and metal channels that sit on the bottom of the
glass.
The regulator moves the glass up and down via an electric motor.
The regulator arms have nylon rollers that sit in the channels on the
bottom of the glass.
One of the nylon rollers has broken off. They are not available separately
from Toyota. They would sell us the whole regulator assembly. I was afraid
to ask how much and also think it would be a bit of a bear to swap a new
one it.
So, does anyone have any good ideas on replacement of the roller.
My basic thoughts are to see if the ones on some drawer slides are of a
similar size and might be swapped in in some manner.
Another thought is to make something out of a suitable plastic.
Randy
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[MBZ] OT - nylon roller
This is obviously something difficult to answer given the subject, but you folks always have good ideas so I am throwing it out to you. My younger son drives our old 95 Toyota 4Runner through the winters. This is the last model that had the old style station wagon type rear tailgate and window setup. The window parts tend to rust and have to be repaired periodically. I did it once in about 2001 or 2 and it needs it again. The parts are available if a bit expensive. I have ordered the pieces and they should be in tomorrow. There are tracks for lack of a better description that the glass sits in. There are rubber inserts and metal channels that sit on the bottom of the glass. The regulator moves the glass up and down via an electric motor. The regulator arms have nylon rollers that sit in the channels on the bottom of the glass. One of the nylon rollers has broken off. They are not available separately from Toyota. They would sell us the whole regulator assembly. I was afraid to ask how much and also think it would be a bit of a bear to swap a new one it. So, does anyone have any good ideas on replacement of the roller. My basic thoughts are to see if the ones on some drawer slides are of a similar size and might be swapped in in some manner. Another thought is to make something out of a suitable plastic. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
