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Like the others said, the pictures are not good. You've got to want to make people take the time out of their day to go look at and buy what you're selling. Perhaps change the wording to say pre-EPA stove. Sometimes people like the know the year of manufacture. That is probably a $200 stove at most unless you find someone looking for exactly that. I would expect people could drive to Ohio and back and get something nicer for the same price as yours. On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Saw a unique stove in a backcountry Georgia auto repair shop. It was a steel drum fitted with a stove pipe, door, and bricks or stones in the bottom. A tube stuck into the middle of the drum dripped diesel, kerosene, or gasoline onto the bricks with a soft foom and flare up every time a drop hit the bricks. The cost of the steel drum conversion kit back then was about $50. It did a good job of moderately heating the four bay shop. There were two refrigerators in the shop; each filled with beer. The mechanics would sip beer all day long while they worked on cars. I wasn't sure the rear wheel bearing they installed in my Plymouth would last, but it made it all the way to California and back and was still in good shape when the car was sold several years later. Gerry Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Which is why some people get the enamel coated type... We just got a new stove for camp, an Overnighter which is firebrick inside, I bet its 300#, I couldn't even budge it by myself, took 3 of us to get it into place. Could you have removed the firebrick, moved the stove, and put the firebrick back in? Heats like crazy though. Great! Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5375 - Release Date: 11/05/12 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I tried, the firebrick fits in very tightly with very little gap. It appears the easiest way to get the firebrick out is to turn the stove upside down. It was easier to just muscle it into place. -Curt Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:26:14 -0700 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT CL Ads Was CL TRUCK Message-ID: 20121105192614.6c654cadf0e1ee363953a...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:35:45 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Which is why some people get the enamel coated type... We just got a new stove for camp, an Overnighter which is firebrick inside, I bet its 300#, I couldn't even budge it by myself, took 3 of us to get it into place. Could you have removed the firebrick, moved the stove, and put the firebrick back in? Heats like crazy though. Great! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Craig is largely right on. Add to that you either need a new camera or better lighting, your pictures are all washed out, it shows everything in possibly the worst view possible. Oh and your trolling for hits at the bottom includes words already in the ad, you don't need to do that and it just makes you look desperate. For these two items I think your prices are too high. The scrap value of the mower is MAYBE $50, last I knew scrap on a CAR was like $200. To get over a hundred you'd have to part it, the aluminum is the only really valuable stuff and theres just not enough. People basically give away woodstoves, I got my Jotul 118 for $200 and it was all cleaned and nice. People want stuff they can install and use not spend a week cleaning up first. Unfortunately your ads all scream This stuff is all too broken for me to want, maybe you are dumber than I am. Try this: Winter is coming, stay warm with with a Buckstove Regular Buck (model 27000) wood burning stove. This stove features an 8 inch flue and blower to help spread the heat around on those cold winter nights. Its also got a screen to allow you open door fires. Enjoy the dancing flames and glowing embers plus the enhanced efficiency of a stove versus a drafty fireplace. This stove was made in the USA by one of our premiere stovemakers who is still in business, parts and manuals available on their website, why buy a cheap junk stove from Asia when you could have made in USA quality for a fraction of the price? This unit has been in storage for the last 10 or 12 years and has a bit of surface rust on the doors and iron frame surrounding the doors. It will clean up like new with minimal effort and some stove black. -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 21:35:14 -0600 From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT CL Ads Was CL TRUCK Message-ID: bay401-eas1291c1ebeb3a73942b17147dd...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: If I'm honest its not a great ad. If you really want to sell it at least clear the junk out of it. If you really, really want to sell it invest in a battery so its running. Those are my two biggest pet peeves about Craiglist ads. So what makes good advertising copy? What entices people to make a purchase? I have been trying to sell a wood stove on CL for three months with NO success. As Rod Blagojevic said This thing is f'ing golden, I'm not going to just give it away. http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380182153.html http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380184075.html That said I really do want to clear my storage space of this crap. What am I doing wrong? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is excellent Curt. Only i'd apply the stove black, or as someone else suggested, black hi temp spray paint. That makes the visual much better. Craig is largely right on. Add to that you either need a new camera or better lighting, your pictures are all washed out, it shows everything in possibly the worst view possible. Oh and your trolling for hits at the bottom includes words already in the ad, you don't need to do that and it just makes you look desperate. For these two items I think your prices are too high. The scrap value of the mower is MAYBE $50, last I knew scrap on a CAR was like $200. To get over a hundred you'd have to part it, the aluminum is the only really valuable stuff and theres just not enough. People basically give away woodstoves, I got my Jotul 118 for $200 and it was all cleaned and nice. People want stuff they can install and use not spend a week cleaning up first. Unfortunately your ads all scream This stuff is all too broken for me to want, maybe you are dumber than I am. Try this: Winter is coming, stay warm with with a Buckstove Regular Buck (model 27000) wood burning stove. This stove features an 8 inch flue and blower to help spread the heat around on those cold winter nights. Its also got a screen to allow you open door fires. Enjoy the dancing flames and glowing embers plus the enhanced efficiency of a stove versus a drafty fireplace. This stove was made in the USA by one of our premiere stovemakers who is still in business, parts and manuals available on their website, why buy a cheap junk stove from Asia when you could have made in USA quality for a fraction of the price? This unit has been in storage for the last 10 or 12 years and has a bit of surface rust on the doors and iron frame surrounding the doors. It will clean up like new with minimal effort and some stove black. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I had a woodstove some years ago, it was getting a bit of surface rust so I took some steel wool and wire brush to it, that did pretty well. Then I put some stove black on it, which was sorta like shoe polish or paste wax kind of stuff. It looked nice for the summer. Then the first time I fired it up, that stuff started burning off (or, rather, smoking off) and stunk up the house and clogged the air with smoke. Not sure why something like that would behave that way, but it might be worth testing whatever stuff out before you polish up the stove. The black paint might be better, but probably takes more prep. --R On 11/5/12 11:43 AM, Dieselhead wrote: That is excellent Curt. Only i'd apply the stove black, or as someone else suggested, black hi temp spray paint. That makes the visual much better. Craig is largely right on. Add to that you either need a new camera or better lighting, your pictures are all washed out, it shows everything in possibly the worst view possible. Oh and your trolling for hits at the bottom includes words already in the ad, you don't need to do that and it just makes you look desperate. For these two items I think your prices are too high. The scrap value of the mower is MAYBE $50, last I knew scrap on a CAR was like $200. To get over a hundred you'd have to part it, the aluminum is the only really valuable stuff and theres just not enough. People basically give away woodstoves, I got my Jotul 118 for $200 and it was all cleaned and nice. People want stuff they can install and use not spend a week cleaning up first. Unfortunately your ads all scream This stuff is all too broken for me to want, maybe you are dumber than I am. Try this: Winter is coming, stay warm with with a Buckstove Regular Buck (model 27000) wood burning stove. This stove features an 8 inch flue and blower to help spread the heat around on those cold winter nights. Its also got a screen to allow you open door fires. Enjoy the dancing flames and glowing embers plus the enhanced efficiency of a stove versus a drafty fireplace. This stove was made in the USA by one of our premiere stovemakers who is still in business, parts and manuals available on their website, why buy a cheap junk stove from Asia when you could have made in USA quality for a fraction of the price? This unit has been in storage for the last 10 or 12 years and has a bit of surface rust on the doors and iron frame surrounding the doors. It will clean up like new with minimal effort and some stove black. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Stove black as well as hi temp spray paint will give off smoke and fumes when first fired and first firing should be done in a well ventilated area. Mike On Nov 5, 2012 12:01 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I had a woodstove some years ago, it was getting a bit of surface rust so I took some steel wool and wire brush to it, that did pretty well. Then I put some stove black on it, which was sorta like shoe polish or paste wax kind of stuff. It looked nice for the summer. Then the first time I fired it up, that stuff started burning off (or, rather, smoking off) and stunk up the house and clogged the air with smoke. Not sure why something like that would behave that way, but it might be worth testing whatever stuff out before you polish up the stove. The black paint might be better, but probably takes more prep. --R On 11/5/12 11:43 AM, Dieselhead wrote: That is excellent Curt. Only i'd apply the stove black, or as someone else suggested, black hi temp spray paint. That makes the visual much better. Craig is largely right on. Add to that you either need a new camera or better lighting, your pictures are all washed out, it shows everything in possibly the worst view possible. Oh and your trolling for hits at the bottom includes words already in the ad, you don't need to do that and it just makes you look desperate. For these two items I think your prices are too high. The scrap value of the mower is MAYBE $50, last I knew scrap on a CAR was like $200. To get over a hundred you'd have to part it, the aluminum is the only really valuable stuff and theres just not enough. People basically give away woodstoves, I got my Jotul 118 for $200 and it was all cleaned and nice. People want stuff they can install and use not spend a week cleaning up first. Unfortunately your ads all scream This stuff is all too broken for me to want, maybe you are dumber than I am. Try this: Winter is coming, stay warm with with a Buckstove Regular Buck (model 27000) wood burning stove. This stove features an 8 inch flue and blower to help spread the heat around on those cold winter nights. Its also got a screen to allow you open door fires. Enjoy the dancing flames and glowing embers plus the enhanced efficiency of a stove versus a drafty fireplace. This stove was made in the USA by one of our premiere stovemakers who is still in business, parts and manuals available on their website, why buy a cheap junk stove from Asia when you could have made in USA quality for a fraction of the price? This unit has been in storage for the last 10 or 12 years and has a bit of surface rust on the doors and iron frame surrounding the doors. It will clean up like new with minimal effort and some stove black. -Curt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Paint will burn off and smoke also.. Stove black has been used for decades to shine up stoves. It just has to have a seasoning fire to finish the process.. Likely you built a large fire and burned it off instead of setting it. On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I had a woodstove some years ago, it was getting a bit of surface rust so I took some steel wool and wire brush to it, that did pretty well. Then I put some stove black on it, which was sorta like shoe polish or paste wax kind of stuff. It looked nice for the summer. Then the first time I fired it up, that stuff started burning off (or, rather, smoking off) and stunk up the house and clogged the air with smoke. Not sure why something like that would behave that way, but it might be worth testing whatever stuff out before you polish up the stove. The black paint might be better, but probably takes more prep. --R On 11/5/12 11:43 AM, Dieselhead wrote: That is excellent Curt. Only i'd apply the stove black, or as someone else suggested, black hi temp spray paint. That makes the visual much better. Craig is largely right on. Add to that you either need a new camera or better lighting, your pictures are all washed out, it shows everything in possibly the worst view possible. Oh and your trolling for hits at the bottom includes words already in the ad, you don't need to do that and it just makes you look desperate. For these two items I think your prices are too high. The scrap value of the mower is MAYBE $50, last I knew scrap on a CAR was like $200. To get over a hundred you'd have to part it, the aluminum is the only really valuable stuff and theres just not enough. People basically give away woodstoves, I got my Jotul 118 for $200 and it was all cleaned and nice. People want stuff they can install and use not spend a week cleaning up first. Unfortunately your ads all scream This stuff is all too broken for me to want, maybe you are dumber than I am. Try this: Winter is coming, stay warm with with a Buckstove Regular Buck (model 27000) wood burning stove. This stove features an 8 inch flue and blower to help spread the heat around on those cold winter nights. Its also got a screen to allow you open door fires. Enjoy the dancing flames and glowing embers plus the enhanced efficiency of a stove versus a drafty fireplace. This stove was made in the USA by one of our premiere stovemakers who is still in business, parts and manuals available on their website, why buy a cheap junk stove from Asia when you could have made in USA quality for a fraction of the price? This unit has been in storage for the last 10 or 12 years and has a bit of surface rust on the doors and iron frame surrounding the doors. It will clean up like new with minimal effort and some stove black. -Curt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah and when you first do that it is cold outside, so you gotta open the doors and windows... --R On 11/5/12 4:44 PM, G Mann wrote: Paint will burn off and smoke also.. Stove black has been used for decades to shine up stoves. It just has to have a seasoning fire to finish the process.. Likely you built a large fire and burned it off instead of setting it. On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I had a woodstove some years ago, it was getting a bit of surface rust so I took some steel wool and wire brush to it, that did pretty well. Then I put some stove black on it, which was sorta like shoe polish or paste wax kind of stuff. It looked nice for the summer. Then the first time I fired it up, that stuff started burning off (or, rather, smoking off) and stunk up the house and clogged the air with smoke. Not sure why something like that would behave that way, but it might be worth testing whatever stuff out before you polish up the stove. The black paint might be better, but probably takes more prep. --R On 11/5/12 11:43 AM, Dieselhead wrote: That is excellent Curt. Only i'd apply the stove black, or as someone else suggested, black hi temp spray paint. That makes the visual much better. Craig is largely right on. Add to that you either need a new camera or better lighting, your pictures are all washed out, it shows everything in possibly the worst view possible. Oh and your trolling for hits at the bottom includes words already in the ad, you don't need to do that and it just makes you look desperate. For these two items I think your prices are too high. The scrap value of the mower is MAYBE $50, last I knew scrap on a CAR was like $200. To get over a hundred you'd have to part it, the aluminum is the only really valuable stuff and theres just not enough. People basically give away woodstoves, I got my Jotul 118 for $200 and it was all cleaned and nice. People want stuff they can install and use not spend a week cleaning up first. Unfortunately your ads all scream This stuff is all too broken for me to want, maybe you are dumber than I am. Try this: Winter is coming, stay warm with with a Buckstove Regular Buck (model 27000) wood burning stove. This stove features an 8 inch flue and blower to help spread the heat around on those cold winter nights. Its also got a screen to allow you open door fires. Enjoy the dancing flames and glowing embers plus the enhanced efficiency of a stove versus a drafty fireplace. This stove was made in the USA by one of our premiere stovemakers who is still in business, parts and manuals available on their website, why buy a cheap junk stove from Asia when you could have made in USA quality for a fraction of the price? This unit has been in storage for the last 10 or 12 years and has a bit of surface rust on the doors and iron frame surrounding the doors. It will clean up like new with minimal effort and some stove black. -Curt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It sounds like it might be a fine idea to remove the stove to the outdoors, clean it, paint it or black it, fire it up and, once it cools, move it back inside. Randy On 05/11/2012 4:22 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Yeah and when you first do that it is cold outside, so you gotta open the doors and windows... --R On 11/5/12 4:44 PM, G Mann wrote: Paint will burn off and smoke also.. Stove black has been used for decades to shine up stoves. It just has to have a seasoning fire to finish the process.. Likely you built a large fire and burned it off instead of setting it. On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I had a woodstove some years ago, it was getting a bit of surface rust so I took some steel wool and wire brush to it, that did pretty well. Then I put some stove black on it, which was sorta like shoe polish or paste wax kind of stuff. It looked nice for the summer. Then the first time I fired it up, that stuff started burning off (or, rather, smoking off) and stunk up the house and clogged the air with smoke. Not sure why something like that would behave that way, but it might be worth testing whatever stuff out before you polish up the stove. The black paint might be better, but probably takes more prep. --R On 11/5/12 11:43 AM, Dieselhead wrote: That is excellent Curt. Only i'd apply the stove black, or as someone else suggested, black hi temp spray paint. That makes the visual much better. Craig is largely right on. Add to that you either need a new camera or better lighting, your pictures are all washed out, it shows everything in possibly the worst view possible. Oh and your trolling for hits at the bottom includes words already in the ad, you don't need to do that and it just makes you look desperate. For these two items I think your prices are too high. The scrap value of the mower is MAYBE $50, last I knew scrap on a CAR was like $200. To get over a hundred you'd have to part it, the aluminum is the only really valuable stuff and theres just not enough. People basically give away woodstoves, I got my Jotul 118 for $200 and it was all cleaned and nice. People want stuff they can install and use not spend a week cleaning up first. Unfortunately your ads all scream This stuff is all too broken for me to want, maybe you are dumber than I am. Try this: Winter is coming, stay warm with with a Buckstove Regular Buck (model 27000) wood burning stove. This stove features an 8 inch flue and blower to help spread the heat around on those cold winter nights. Its also got a screen to allow you open door fires. Enjoy the dancing flames and glowing embers plus the enhanced efficiency of a stove versus a drafty fireplace. This stove was made in the USA by one of our premiere stovemakers who is still in business, parts and manuals available on their website, why buy a cheap junk stove from Asia when you could have made in USA quality for a fraction of the price? This unit has been in storage for the last 10 or 12 years and has a bit of surface rust on the doors and iron frame surrounding the doors. It will clean up like new with minimal effort and some stove black. -Curt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, a 200lb stove... --R On 11/5/12 5:25 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: It sounds like it might be a fine idea to remove the stove to the outdoors, clean it, paint it or black it, fire it up and, once it cools, move it back inside. Randy On 05/11/2012 4:22 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Yeah and when you first do that it is cold outside, so you gotta open the doors and windows... --R On 11/5/12 4:44 PM, G Mann wrote: Paint will burn off and smoke also.. Stove black has been used for decades to shine up stoves. It just has to have a seasoning fire to finish the process.. Likely you built a large fire and burned it off instead of setting it. On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I had a woodstove some years ago, it was getting a bit of surface rust so I took some steel wool and wire brush to it, that did pretty well. Then I put some stove black on it, which was sorta like shoe polish or paste wax kind of stuff. It looked nice for the summer. Then the first time I fired it up, that stuff started burning off (or, rather, smoking off) and stunk up the house and clogged the air with smoke. Not sure why something like that would behave that way, but it might be worth testing whatever stuff out before you polish up the stove. The black paint might be better, but probably takes more prep. --R On 11/5/12 11:43 AM, Dieselhead wrote: That is excellent Curt. Only i'd apply the stove black, or as someone else suggested, black hi temp spray paint. That makes the visual much better. Craig is largely right on. Add to that you either need a new camera or better lighting, your pictures are all washed out, it shows everything in possibly the worst view possible. Oh and your trolling for hits at the bottom includes words already in the ad, you don't need to do that and it just makes you look desperate. For these two items I think your prices are too high. The scrap value of the mower is MAYBE $50, last I knew scrap on a CAR was like $200. To get over a hundred you'd have to part it, the aluminum is the only really valuable stuff and theres just not enough. People basically give away woodstoves, I got my Jotul 118 for $200 and it was all cleaned and nice. People want stuff they can install and use not spend a week cleaning up first. Unfortunately your ads all scream This stuff is all too broken for me to want, maybe you are dumber than I am. Try this: Winter is coming, stay warm with with a Buckstove Regular Buck (model 27000) wood burning stove. This stove features an 8 inch flue and blower to help spread the heat around on those cold winter nights. Its also got a screen to allow you open door fires. Enjoy the dancing flames and glowing embers plus the enhanced efficiency of a stove versus a drafty fireplace. This stove was made in the USA by one of our premiere stovemakers who is still in business, parts and manuals available on their website, why buy a cheap junk stove from Asia when you could have made in USA quality for a fraction of the price? This unit has been in storage for the last 10 or 12 years and has a bit of surface rust on the doors and iron frame surrounding the doors. It will clean up like new with minimal effort and some stove black. -Curt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:28:29 -0500 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yeah, a 200lb stove... Well, the one in the craigslist ad we were asked to critique was already outside. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A couple of guys can move a 200# stove. Tilt and slip a wheeled platform under and roll away. Now, that maybe assumes you do not have any stairs to contend with but it might still be better than trying to clean and paint it indoors. Our stove at the lake needs a bit of freshening up but does not weigh that much and is withing a few feet of the door. Randy On 05/11/2012 4:28 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Yeah, a 200lb stove... --R On 11/5/12 5:25 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: It sounds like it might be a fine idea to remove the stove to the outdoors, clean it, paint it or black it, fire it up and, once it cools, move it back inside. Randy On 05/11/2012 4:22 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Yeah and when you first do that it is cold outside, so you gotta open the doors and windows... --R On 11/5/12 4:44 PM, G Mann wrote: Paint will burn off and smoke also.. Stove black has been used for decades to shine up stoves. It just has to have a seasoning fire to finish the process.. Likely you built a large fire and burned it off instead of setting it. On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I had a woodstove some years ago, it was getting a bit of surface rust so I took some steel wool and wire brush to it, that did pretty well. Then I put some stove black on it, which was sorta like shoe polish or paste wax kind of stuff. It looked nice for the summer. Then the first time I fired it up, that stuff started burning off (or, rather, smoking off) and stunk up the house and clogged the air with smoke. Not sure why something like that would behave that way, but it might be worth testing whatever stuff out before you polish up the stove. The black paint might be better, but probably takes more prep. --R On 11/5/12 11:43 AM, Dieselhead wrote: That is excellent Curt. Only i'd apply the stove black, or as someone else suggested, black hi temp spray paint. That makes the visual much better. Craig is largely right on. Add to that you either need a new camera or better lighting, your pictures are all washed out, it shows everything in possibly the worst view possible. Oh and your trolling for hits at the bottom includes words already in the ad, you don't need to do that and it just makes you look desperate. For these two items I think your prices are too high. The scrap value of the mower is MAYBE $50, last I knew scrap on a CAR was like $200. To get over a hundred you'd have to part it, the aluminum is the only really valuable stuff and theres just not enough. People basically give away woodstoves, I got my Jotul 118 for $200 and it was all cleaned and nice. People want stuff they can install and use not spend a week cleaning up first. Unfortunately your ads all scream This stuff is all too broken for me to want, maybe you are dumber than I am. Try this: Winter is coming, stay warm with with a Buckstove Regular Buck (model 27000) wood burning stove. This stove features an 8 inch flue and blower to help spread the heat around on those cold winter nights. Its also got a screen to allow you open door fires. Enjoy the dancing flames and glowing embers plus the enhanced efficiency of a stove versus a drafty fireplace. This stove was made in the USA by one of our premiere stovemakers who is still in business, parts and manuals available on their website, why buy a cheap junk stove from Asia when you could have made in USA quality for a fraction of the price? This unit has been in storage for the last 10 or 12 years and has a bit of surface rust on the doors and iron frame surrounding the doors. It will clean up like new with minimal effort and some stove black. -Curt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery
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Curt, You should been a used car salesman! LOL . But you rae right-used stoves are cheap-esp this time of year in the more northern climes and a Lot of people don't know a good one form a crappy brand. My $0.02 Dwight (Who has a rare, almost mint 300CD for sale.) On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Craig is largely right on. Add to that you either need a new camera or better lighting, your pictures are all washed out, it shows everything in possibly the worst view possible. Oh and your trolling for hits at the bottom includes words already in the ad, you don't need to do that and it just makes you look desperate. For these two items I think your prices are too high. The scrap value of the mower is MAYBE $50, last I knew scrap on a CAR was like $200. To get over a hundred you'd have to part it, the aluminum is the only really valuable stuff and theres just not enough. People basically give away woodstoves, I got my Jotul 118 for $200 and it was all cleaned and nice. People want stuff they can install and use not spend a week cleaning up first. Unfortunately your ads all scream This stuff is all too broken for me to want, maybe you are dumber than I am. Try this: Winter is coming, stay warm with with a Buckstove Regular Buck (model 27000) wood burning stove. This stove features an 8 inch flue and blower to help spread the heat around on those cold winter nights. Its also got a screen to allow you open door fires. Enjoy the dancing flames and glowing embers plus the enhanced efficiency of a stove versus a drafty fireplace. This stove was made in the USA by one of our premiere stovemakers who is still in business, parts and manuals available on their website, why buy a cheap junk stove from Asia when you could have made in USA quality for a fraction of the price? This unit has been in storage for the last 10 or 12 years and has a bit of surface rust on the doors and iron frame surrounding the doors. It will clean up like new with minimal effort and some stove black. -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 21:35:14 -0600 From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT CL Ads Was CL TRUCK Message-ID: bay401-eas1291c1ebeb3a73942b17147dd...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: If I'm honest its not a great ad. If you really want to sell it at least clear the junk out of it. If you really, really want to sell it invest in a battery so its running. Those are my two biggest pet peeves about Craiglist ads. So what makes good advertising copy? What entices people to make a purchase? I have been trying to sell a wood stove on CL for three months with NO success. As Rod Blagojevic said This thing is f'ing golden, I'm not going to just give it away. http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380182153.html http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380184075.html That said I really do want to clear my storage space of this crap. What am I doing wrong? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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An hour with a wire brush and stove black and its a $400 stove, without that I think its a pretty good $200 stove but who knows. I'd like to think with the more positive ad it would at least get some interest. If it were mine I'd be willing to drop the price to get it gone. I'll be going through this game in the spring when I sell my motorcycles. Just like Rick I need to move out some projects that just aren't getting the attention they need here. -Curt Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:43:17 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT CL Ads Was CL TRUCK Message-ID: a06240818ccbd9cc9ac85@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed That is excellent Curt. Only i'd apply the stove black, or as someone else suggested, black hi temp spray paint. That makes the visual much better. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Paint will sometimes release in smoking sheets too. We installed a cheap Vogelzang stove in the camp and the first time it got real hot a big sheet of paint fell off the bottom... It took a few good hot fires for all the paint to burn off, we should have done it outside. -Curt Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:44:40 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT CL Ads Was CL TRUCK Message-ID: cantulyiuboabnzgczauaqfv+vfbf_t66yqfcjjkakfh6o1r...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Paint will burn off and smoke also.. Stove black has been used for decades to shine up stoves. It just has to have a seasoning fire to finish the process.. Likely you built a large fire and burned it off instead of setting it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Which is why some people get the enamel coated type... We just got a new stove for camp, an Overnighter which is firebrick inside, I bet its 300#, I couldn't even budge it by myself, took 3 of us to get it into place. Heats like crazy though. -Curt Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:28:29 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT CL Ads Was CL TRUCK Message-ID: 50983d8d.7060...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yeah, a 200lb stove... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com writes: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380182153.html What am I doing wrong? You're confining your market of buyers to those who want to clean up what looks like a rusty pile of scrap metal. Sorry but that's what it looks like to me. Clean it up. Take some better photos (without strong sunlight/shadows). Ask $600. Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Excellent suggestions from all and great ad copy from Curt. Thank you. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Craig is largely right on. Add to that you either need a new camera or better lighting, your pictures are all washed out, it shows everything in possibly the worst view possible. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:35:45 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Which is why some people get the enamel coated type... We just got a new stove for camp, an Overnighter which is firebrick inside, I bet its 300#, I couldn't even budge it by myself, took 3 of us to get it into place. Could you have removed the firebrick, moved the stove, and put the firebrick back in? Heats like crazy though. Great! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Saw a unique stove in a backcountry Georgia auto repair shop. It was a steel drum fitted with a stove pipe, door, and bricks or stones in the bottom. A tube stuck into the middle of the drum dripped diesel, kerosene, or gasoline onto the bricks with a soft foom and flare up every time a drop hit the bricks. The cost of the steel drum conversion kit back then was about $50. It did a good job of moderately heating the four bay shop. There were two refrigerators in the shop; each filled with beer. The mechanics would sip beer all day long while they worked on cars. I wasn't sure the rear wheel bearing they installed in my Plymouth would last, but it made it all the way to California and back and was still in good shape when the car was sold several years later. Gerry Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Which is why some people get the enamel coated type... We just got a new stove for camp, an Overnighter which is firebrick inside, I bet its 300#, I couldn't even budge it by myself, took 3 of us to get it into place. Could you have removed the firebrick, moved the stove, and put the firebrick back in? Heats like crazy though. Great! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5375 - Release Date: 11/05/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: If I'm honest its not a great ad. If you really want to sell it at least clear the junk out of it. If you really, really want to sell it invest in a battery so its running. Those are my two biggest pet peeves about Craiglist ads. So what makes good advertising copy? What entices people to make a purchase? I have been trying to sell a wood stove on CL for three months with NO success. As Rod Blagojevic said This thing is f'ing golden, I'm not going to just give it away. http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380182153.html http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380184075.html That said I really do want to clear my storage space of this crap. What am I doing wrong? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 21:35:14 -0600 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380182153.html In the ad title, you say, $400. Near the bottom of the text, you say, If I do it, the price will go up. $400.00. So the price will go up from $400 to $400? Put half-an-hour into cleaning out the ashes, scraping the surfaces with a welder's brush and spraying $7 of high-temperature black paint on it. Get the other stuff out of pictures 3 and 5 unless it goes with the stove, in which case bring it from the background into the foreground. Get better lighting, the shadows don't help. And what is that in picture 6? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
