Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Movie star practice? (grin)

How about leasing a car while in a residency?
Why would a resident need to keep up appearances?

Gerry...retired lab rat
~~~
Karl Wittnebel wrote:
> I've been a doctor for about 18 years now and I drove a Volvo 240 wagon for
> the first few years, and an 85 300td since then. Paid cash for both of
> them. Not sure which was the better car, actually.
> 
> No way would I put someone on a resident salary or paying medical school
> tuition into a car payment. That's unwise. Getting out from under the
> mandatory educational debt is hard enough without adding gratuitous debt
> unnecessarily, especially if he sets up shop in any major metro area
> eventually. Save the cash for a condo or house downpayment, and buy him a
> lightly used plain jane Nissan sentra with a 5 speed.
> On Jun 10, 2016 7:41 PM, "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
> > Well yeah, but as an aspiring young doctor he needs to establish and keep
> > up appearances.  Plus he has no interest in screwing around with cars,
> > unfortunately.  He is driving the 98 DeVille now, which I offered back to
> > the girl child, but she informed me she prefers to keep the 84 SD even with
> > temperamental windows and no AC.  THAT is my girl!
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 6/10/16 5:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his price range.
> >>
> >> Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
> >> On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that sends a lot of
> >>> them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering driving on ice or
> >>> snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right tars, they are
> >>> rock
> >>> solid.
> >>>
> >>> there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the ditches are
> >>> filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on the side or
> >>> completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but twitchy steering is
> >>> certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and design (short
> >>> wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)
> >>>
> >>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> >>>
>  June 10, 2016 at 9:19 AMvia Postbox <
> 
>  https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
>  I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
>  lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
>  to drive for 14 hours.
>  Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios.
>  The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
>  in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
>  The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.
> 
>  Rick
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>  Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
>  June 10, 2016 at 8:47 AMvia Postbox <
> 
>  https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
>  Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.
>  He
>  rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda
>  CRV
>  the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger
>  and a
>  bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass and
>  safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to
>  them,
>  it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not
>  totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall renting one some
>  years
>  ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.
> 
>  I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun car
>  (a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) to
>  avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we
>  can
>  pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.
> 
>  --R
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  June 10, 2016 at 8:37 AMvia Postbox <
> 
>  https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
>  Rich inquires:
> 
>  The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
> 
> > given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
> > car.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>  I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.
> 
>  The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.
> 
>  The Hyundai was an 

Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

You are pretty much correct but this is his deal now so he can figure it 
out.  The key issue is he just doesn't want to screw with a car so 
something newer will probably be less of a headache.  One hopes.


Interestingly enough residents' salaries are pretty decent now (as 
opposed to when my wife went through that), and he lives pretty cheaply 
so he has run the numbers for what he is comfortable with and continues 
to be focused on paying down his loans so that is good.


--R


On 6/11/16 12:28 PM, Karl Wittnebel wrote:


I've been a doctor for about 18 years now and I drove a Volvo 240 
wagon for the first few years, and an 85 300td since then. Paid cash 
for both of them. Not sure which was the better car, actually.


No way would I put someone on a resident salary or paying medical 
school tuition into a car payment. That's unwise. Getting out from 
under the mandatory educational debt is hard enough without adding 
gratuitous debt unnecessarily, especially if he sets up shop in any 
major metro area eventually. Save the cash for a condo or house 
downpayment, and buy him a lightly used plain jane Nissan sentra with 
a 5 speed.


On Jun 10, 2016 7:41 PM, "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" 
> wrote:


Well yeah, but as an aspiring young doctor he needs to establish
and keep up appearances.  Plus he has no interest in screwing
around with cars, unfortunately.  He is driving the 98 DeVille
now, which I offered back to the girl child, but she informed me
she prefers to keep the 84 SD even with temperamental windows and
no AC.  THAT is my girl!

--R


On 6/10/16 5:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his
price range.

Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes"
>
wrote:

i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that
sends a lot of
them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering
driving on ice or
snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right
tars, they are rock
solid.

there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the
ditches are
filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on
the side or
completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but
twitchy steering is
certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and
design (short
wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)

Rick Knoble via Mercedes >

June 10, 2016 at 9:19 AMvia Postbox <

https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
to drive for 14 hours.
Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast
steering ratios.
The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.

Rick
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Joel Cairo via Mercedes >
June 10, 2016 at 8:47 AMvia Postbox <

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Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a
variety of SUVs.  He
rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and
liked the Hunda CRV
the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which
is a bit larger and a
bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for
the larger mass and
safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid
much attention to them,
it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the
hundays too, was not
totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall
renting one some years
ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords,
interesting.

I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to
  

Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[G Mann via Mercedes]

ATTABOY !!

hahahahaha.. Good one..

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:00 AM, WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com
> wrote:

> That reminds me:  I've never been a doctor, but my signature now looks
> like I went to medical school.   ;<))
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: "Karl Wittnebel" <atypical...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise
>
>
> I've been a doctor for about 18 years now and I drove a Volvo 240 wagon for
>> the first few years, and an 85 300td since then. Paid cash for both of
>> them. Not sure which was the better car, actually.
>>
>> No way would I put someone on a resident salary or paying medical school
>> tuition into a car payment. That's unwise. Getting out from under the
>> mandatory educational debt is hard enough without adding gratuitous debt
>> unnecessarily, especially if he sets up shop in any major metro area
>> eventually. Save the cash for a condo or house downpayment, and buy him a
>> lightly used plain jane Nissan sentra with a 5 speed.
>> On Jun 10, 2016 7:41 PM, "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well yeah, but as an aspiring young doctor he needs to establish and keep
>>> up appearances.  Plus he has no interest in screwing around with cars,
>>> unfortunately.  He is driving the 98 DeVille now, which I offered back to
>>> the girl child, but she informed me she prefers to keep the 84 SD even
>>> with
>>> temperamental windows and no AC.  THAT is my girl!
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/10/16 5:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his price range.
>>>>
>>>> Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
>>>> On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that sends a lot of
>>>>
>>>>> them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering driving on ice
>>>>> or
>>>>> snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right tars, they are
>>>>> rock
>>>>> solid.
>>>>>
>>>>> there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the ditches are
>>>>> filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on the side or
>>>>> completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but twitchy steering
>>>>> is
>>>>> certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and design (short
>>>>> wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> June 10, 2016 at 9:19 AMvia Postbox <
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
>>>>>> I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
>>>>>> lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
>>>>>> to drive for 14 hours.
>>>>>> Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios.
>>>>>> The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
>>>>>> in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
>>>>>> The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>> ___
>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joel Cairo via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>> June 10, 2016 at 8:47 AMvia Postbox <
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
>>>>>> Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.
>>>>>> He
>

Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[WILTON via Mercedes]

That reminds me:  I've never been a doctor, but my signature now looks like 
I went to medical school.   ;<))


Wilton

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From: "Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>

To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Karl Wittnebel" <atypical...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise


I've been a doctor for about 18 years now and I drove a Volvo 240 wagon 
for

the first few years, and an 85 300td since then. Paid cash for both of
them. Not sure which was the better car, actually.

No way would I put someone on a resident salary or paying medical school
tuition into a car payment. That's unwise. Getting out from under the
mandatory educational debt is hard enough without adding gratuitous debt
unnecessarily, especially if he sets up shop in any major metro area
eventually. Save the cash for a condo or house downpayment, and buy him a
lightly used plain jane Nissan sentra with a 5 speed.
On Jun 10, 2016 7:41 PM, "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:


Well yeah, but as an aspiring young doctor he needs to establish and keep
up appearances.  Plus he has no interest in screwing around with cars,
unfortunately.  He is driving the 98 DeVille now, which I offered back to
the girl child, but she informed me she prefers to keep the 84 SD even 
with

temperamental windows and no AC.  THAT is my girl!

--R


On 6/10/16 5:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:


First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his price range.

Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that sends a lot of
them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering driving on ice 
or

snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right tars, they are
rock
solid.

there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the ditches are
filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on the side or
completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but twitchy steering 
is

certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and design (short
wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)

Rick Knoble via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>


June 10, 2016 at 9:19 AMvia Postbox <

https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
to drive for 14 hours.
Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios.
The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.

Rick
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Joel Cairo via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
June 10, 2016 at 8:47 AMvia Postbox <

https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.
He
rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda
CRV
the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger
and a
bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass 
and

safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to
them,
it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not
totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall renting one some
years
ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.

I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun 
car
(a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) 
to

avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we
can
pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.

--R




Rick Knoble via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
June 10, 2016 at 8:37 AMvia Postbox <

https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
Rich inquires:

The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD

given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a 
little

car.

Thoughts?

I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.

The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.

The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
type appliance.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I've been a doctor for about 18 years now and I drove a Volvo 240 wagon for
the first few years, and an 85 300td since then. Paid cash for both of
them. Not sure which was the better car, actually.

No way would I put someone on a resident salary or paying medical school
tuition into a car payment. That's unwise. Getting out from under the
mandatory educational debt is hard enough without adding gratuitous debt
unnecessarily, especially if he sets up shop in any major metro area
eventually. Save the cash for a condo or house downpayment, and buy him a
lightly used plain jane Nissan sentra with a 5 speed.
On Jun 10, 2016 7:41 PM, "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Well yeah, but as an aspiring young doctor he needs to establish and keep
> up appearances.  Plus he has no interest in screwing around with cars,
> unfortunately.  He is driving the 98 DeVille now, which I offered back to
> the girl child, but she informed me she prefers to keep the 84 SD even with
> temperamental windows and no AC.  THAT is my girl!
>
> --R
>
>
> On 6/10/16 5:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his price range.
>>
>> Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
>> On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that sends a lot of
>>> them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering driving on ice or
>>> snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right tars, they are
>>> rock
>>> solid.
>>>
>>> there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the ditches are
>>> filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on the side or
>>> completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but twitchy steering is
>>> certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and design (short
>>> wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)
>>>
>>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>
 June 10, 2016 at 9:19 AMvia Postbox <

 https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
 I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
 lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
 to drive for 14 hours.
 Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios.
 The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
 in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
 The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.

 Rick
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 Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
 June 10, 2016 at 8:47 AMvia Postbox <

 https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
 Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.
 He
 rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda
 CRV
 the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger
 and a
 bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass and
 safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to
 them,
 it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not
 totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall renting one some
 years
 ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.

 I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun car
 (a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) to
 avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we
 can
 pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.

 --R




 Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 June 10, 2016 at 8:37 AMvia Postbox <

 https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
 Rich inquires:

 The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD

> given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
> car.
>
> Thoughts?
 I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.

 The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.

 The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
 Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
 recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
 type appliance.

 Rick
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[WILTON via Mercedes]

Tell 'er I said, "ATTAGIRL!"

Wilton

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To: <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Joel Cairo" <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise


Well yeah, but as an aspiring young doctor he needs to establish and keep 
up appearances.  Plus he has no interest in screwing around with cars, 
unfortunately.  He is driving the 98 DeVille now, which I offered back to 
the girl child, but she informed me she prefers to keep the 84 SD even 
with temperamental windows and no AC.  THAT is my girl!


--R


On 6/10/16 5:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his price range.

Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com>

wrote:


i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that sends a lot of
them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering driving on ice 
or
snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right tars, they are 
rock

solid.

there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the ditches are
filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on the side or
completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but twitchy steering 
is

certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and design (short
wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)

Rick Knoble via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>

June 10, 2016 at 9:19 AMvia Postbox <
https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
to drive for 14 hours.
Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios.
The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.

Rick
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Joel Cairo via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
June 10, 2016 at 8:47 AMvia Postbox <
https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs. 
He
rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda 
CRV
the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger 
and a

bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass and
safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to 
them,

it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not
totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall renting one some 
years

ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.

I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun 
car
(a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) 
to
avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we 
can

pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.

--R




Rick Knoble via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
June 10, 2016 at 8:37 AMvia Postbox <
https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
Rich inquires:

The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a 
little

car.


Thoughts?
I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.

The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.

The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
type appliance.

Rick
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The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
car. He's OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't want to
deal with a stealer or CL.  Could maybe get an extended warranty.  The
local/nearby Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans and hyundais 
look
all to be ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on getting an ex-rental 
with
15-20k-ish miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 old with reasonable miles. 
He
kinda liked a RAV4 bu

Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Well yeah, but as an aspiring young doctor he needs to establish and 
keep up appearances.  Plus he has no interest in screwing around with 
cars, unfortunately.  He is driving the 98 DeVille now, which I offered 
back to the girl child, but she informed me she prefers to keep the 84 
SD even with temperamental windows and no AC.  THAT is my girl!


--R


On 6/10/16 5:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his price range.

Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:


i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that sends a lot of
them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering driving on ice or
snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right tars, they are rock
solid.

there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the ditches are
filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on the side or
completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but twitchy steering is
certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and design (short
wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)

Rick Knoble via Mercedes 

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I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
to drive for 14 hours.
Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios.
The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.

Rick
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Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.  He
rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda CRV
the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger and a
bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass and
safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to them,
it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not
totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall renting one some years
ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.

I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun car
(a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) to
avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we can
pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.

--R




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Rich inquires:

The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD

given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
car.


Thoughts?
I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.

The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.

The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
type appliance.

Rick
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June 6, 2016 at 2:40 PMvia Postbox <
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The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
car. He's OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't want to
deal with a stealer or CL.  Could maybe get an extended warranty.  The
local/nearby Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans and hyundais look
all to be ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on getting an ex-rental with
15-20k-ish miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 old with reasonable miles.  He
kinda liked a RAV4 but they only had 2WD models, the others I looked at are
4WD.

The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive
it, I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and the
prices are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.

Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running fine
but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He got another
one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed 

Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 10/06/2016 4:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his price range.

Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.


Which are just a bit slower than a 240D with an automatic.

RB

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[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his price range.

Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that sends a lot of
> them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering driving on ice or
> snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right tars, they are rock
> solid.
>
> there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the ditches are
> filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on the side or
> completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but twitchy steering is
> certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and design (short
> wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)
>
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> June 10, 2016 at 9:19 AMvia Postbox <
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>> >
>>
>> I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
>> lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
>> to drive for 14 hours.
>> Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios.
>> The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
>> in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
>> The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.
>>
>> Rick
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>> Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
>> June 10, 2016 at 8:47 AMvia Postbox <
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>> >
>> Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.  He
>> rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda CRV
>> the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger and a
>> bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass and
>> safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to them,
>> it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not
>> totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall renting one some years
>> ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.
>>
>> I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun car
>> (a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) to
>> avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we can
>> pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> June 10, 2016 at 8:37 AMvia Postbox <
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>> >
>> Rich inquires:
>>
>> The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
>>> given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
>>> car.
>>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>
>> I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.
>>
>> The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.
>>
>> The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
>> Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
>> recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
>> type appliance.
>>
>> Rick
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>> Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
>> June 6, 2016 at 2:40 PMvia Postbox <
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>> >
>> The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
>> given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
>> car. He's OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't want to
>> deal with a stealer or CL.  Could maybe get an extended warranty.  The
>> local/nearby Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans and hyundais look
>> all to be ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on getting an ex-rental with
>> 15-20k-ish miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 old with reasonable miles.  He
>> kinda liked a RAV4 but they only had 2WD models, the others I looked at are
>> 4WD.
>>
>> The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive
>> it, I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and the
>> prices are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.
>>
>> Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running fine
>> but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He got another
>> one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match the car's
>> computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the time it is
>> pulled, flashed, 

Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that sends a lot of 
them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering driving on ice 
or snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right tars, they 
are rock solid.


there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the ditches are 
filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on the side or 
completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but twitchy steering 
is certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and design (short 
wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
June 10, 2016 at 9:19 AMvia Postbox 



I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
to drive for 14 hours.
Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios.
The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.

Rick
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Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 10, 2016 at 8:47 AMvia Postbox 

Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.  
He rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the 
Hunda CRV the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a 
bit larger and a bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for 
the larger mass and safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid 
much attention to them, it was nice but looked small.  He looked at 
the hundays too, was not totally impressed compared to the others.  I 
recall renting one some years ago, thought it was OK too.  He also 
liked some Fords, interesting.


I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun 
car (a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or 
rentals) to avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing 
organized so we can pull the trigger when I find something, he can 
come here and get it.


--R




Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
June 10, 2016 at 8:37 AMvia Postbox 


Rich inquires:


The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
car.



Thoughts?


I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.

The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.

The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
type appliance.

Rick
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Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 6, 2016 at 2:40 PMvia Postbox 

The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD 
given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a 
little car. He's OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't 
want to deal with a stealer or CL.  Could maybe get an extended 
warranty.  The local/nearby Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans 
and hyundais look all to be ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on 
getting an ex-rental with 15-20k-ish miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 
old with reasonable miles.  He kinda liked a RAV4 but they only had 
2WD models, the others I looked at are 4WD.


The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive 
it, I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and 
the prices are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.


Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running 
fine but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He 
got another one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match 
the car's computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the 
time it is pulled, flashed, organized somehow, then reinstalled.  He 
can't get it inspected in nannyland without doing that, I can't see 
putting that kind of $$ into an 18yo car, I could probably sell it 
here and get something for it or give it to the girl again.




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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

the difference between first gen CRV and the current one is staggering.  
FIrst gen was a japanese mini SUV. (or was that micro?)  current ones 
are what I'd call full size.


Same with the toada RAV.  (its direct competitor)  The current on is the 
same hight  and width as dogde Grand Caravan, and only 5-6" shorter.  It 
is no where near as usable.  For all that mass, I'd buy the GC in a 
heartbeat!


Current pathfinder is huge.  pretty close to full size pickup based SUV 
thing.  Original was based on datsun (mini) pickup.



Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 10, 2016 at 8:47 AMvia Postbox 

Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.  
He rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the 
Hunda CRV the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a 
bit larger and a bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for 
the larger mass and safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid 
much attention to them, it was nice but looked small.  He looked at 
the hundays too, was not totally impressed compared to the others.  I 
recall renting one some years ago, thought it was OK too.  He also 
liked some Fords, interesting.


I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun 
car (a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or 
rentals) to avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing 
organized so we can pull the trigger when I find something, he can 
come here and get it.


--R




Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
June 10, 2016 at 8:37 AMvia Postbox 


Rich inquires:


The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
car.



Thoughts?


I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.

The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.

The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
type appliance.

Rick
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Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 6, 2016 at 2:40 PMvia Postbox 

The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD 
given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a 
little car. He's OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't 
want to deal with a stealer or CL.  Could maybe get an extended 
warranty.  The local/nearby Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans 
and hyundais look all to be ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on 
getting an ex-rental with 15-20k-ish miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 
old with reasonable miles.  He kinda liked a RAV4 but they only had 
2WD models, the others I looked at are 4WD.


The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive 
it, I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and 
the prices are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.


Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running 
fine but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He 
got another one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match 
the car's computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the 
time it is pulled, flashed, organized somehow, then reinstalled.  He 
can't get it inspected in nannyland without doing that, I can't see 
putting that kind of $$ into an 18yo car, I could probably sell it 
here and get something for it or give it to the girl again.




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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I don't know about the current models, but a few years back I seriously 
considered the Ford Escape as a lower end SUV vehicle for the wife.  It's a 
combo Mazda/Ford, and we have always had really good experiences with both.

Dan

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> On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.  He 
> rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda CRV the 
> best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger and a bit 
> more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass and safety.  
> I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to them, it was nice 
> but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not totally impressed 
> compared to the others.  I recall renting one some years ago, thought it was 
> OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.
> 
> I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun car (a 
> lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) to avoid 
> the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we can pull the 
> trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 6/10/16 9:37 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> Rich inquires:
>> 
>>> The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
>>> given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
>>> car.
>>> Thoughts?
>> I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.
>> 
>> The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.
>> 
>> The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
>> Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
>> recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
>> type appliance.
>> 
>> Rick
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[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Curt replied:

>I'm surprised Rick hated the Compass

I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant 
to drive for 14 hours. 
Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios. 
The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth 
in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.

Rick
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We drove a Nissan Xterra when we were shopping 2 years ago, I liked it a lot 
but ended up figuring the utility of a pickup was worth it. The Xterra has real 
offroad cred too.
A friend had a second gen Kia Sportage that was quite a nice car.
I'm surprised Rick hated the Compass, I had one as a rental once (might have 
been a Patriot, same car) and thought it was a pretty good car. It was just a 
car though...
Honestly very few people really need an SUV, with all the airbags and side 
impact protection etc, even a cheap hootpy is pretty safe these days. Gone are 
the days of cars that just fold up and kill the occupants in an accident. The 
cars still fold up but the point is to absorb the impact in the car rather than 
the passengers.
-Curt
  From: Joel Cairo via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Joel Cairo <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise
   
Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.  
He rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda 
CRV the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger 
and a bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger 
mass and safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much 
attention to them, it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the 
hundays too, was not totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall 
renting one some years ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some 
Fords, interesting.

I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun car 
(a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) to 
avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we 
can pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.

--R


On 6/10/16 9:37 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> Rich inquires:
>
>> The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
>> given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
>> car.
>> Thoughts?
> I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.
>
> The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.
>
> The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
> Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
> recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
> type appliance.
>
> Rick
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The CVT is just a snowmobile transmission, I had a Nissan Juke with one and it 
drove just like a snowmobile. I looked it up, belt drive...
I suspect the belt would be the limiting factor and a lot of stop and go 
driving would burn the belt. *Should* be easy to replace, probably isn't though.
-Curt

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I think the Nissan's have a CVT, which has a very poor history of quality
problems.  Avoid the CVT if you can.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
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> Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.  He
> rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda CRV
> the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger and a
> bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass and
> safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to them,
> it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not
> totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall renting one some years
> ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.
>
> I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun car
> (a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) to
> avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we can
> pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 6/10/16 9:37 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Rich inquires:
>>
>> The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
>>> given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
>>> car.
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>> I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.
>>
>> The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.
>>
>> The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
>> Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
>> recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
>> type appliance.
>>
>> Rick
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[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I think the Nissan's have a CVT, which has a very poor history of quality
problems.  Avoid the CVT if you can.

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On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.  He
> rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda CRV
> the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger and a
> bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass and
> safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to them,
> it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not
> totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall renting one some years
> ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.
>
> I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun car
> (a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) to
> avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we can
> pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 6/10/16 9:37 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Rich inquires:
>>
>> The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
>>> given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
>>> car.
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>> I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.
>>
>> The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.
>>
>> The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
>> Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
>> recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
>> type appliance.
>>
>> Rick
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[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.  
He rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda 
CRV the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger 
and a bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger 
mass and safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much 
attention to them, it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the 
hundays too, was not totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall 
renting one some years ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some 
Fords, interesting.


I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun car 
(a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) to 
avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we 
can pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.


--R


On 6/10/16 9:37 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Rich inquires:


The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
car.
Thoughts?

I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.

The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.

The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
type appliance.

Rick
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[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Rich inquires:

>The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
>given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
>car. 

>Thoughts? 

I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.

The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.

The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would 
recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
type appliance.

Rick
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[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Best to change timing belt before it hits 100K miles (IMO) if it has an 
interference engine. Broken belt can break interference engines.

Except for 3.0L & 3.2L, Hondas have interference engines.

http://yourcarangel.com/2014/07/interference-engines-complete-list/

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~~
> YMMV of course but we bought a former rental car for my wife in 2008 
> when her Toyota Avalon got written off. We got a 2007 Honda Accord with 
> 22K miles on it for what we thought was a reasonable price.
> No real issues with it since. It now has 60K miles on it and we have 
> done tires, a battery, brakes and a starter. Starter was just last week.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 06/06/2016 2:40 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes wrote:
> > The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD 
> > given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a 
> > little car. He's OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't 
> > want to deal with a stealer or CL. Could maybe get an extended 
> > warranty.  The local/nearby Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans 
> > and hyundais look all to be ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on 
> > getting an ex-rental with 15-20k-ish miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 
> > old with reasonable miles.  He kinda liked a RAV4 but they only had 
> > 2WD models, the others I looked at are 4WD.
> >
> > The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive 
> > it, I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and 
> > the prices are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.
> >
> > Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running 
> > fine but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He 
> > got another one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match 
> > the car's computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the 
> > time it is pulled, flashed, organized somehow, then reinstalled.  He 
> > can't get it inspected in nannyland without doing that, I can't see 
> > putting that kind of $$ into an 18yo car, I could probably sell it 
> > here and get something for it or give it to the girl again.
> >
> 
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Despite the “Drive it like it’s a rental” thing, rentals cars are pretty well 
maintained and most of the places even provide a warranty.

Dan


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> YMMV of course but we bought a former rental car for my wife in 2008 when her 
> Toyota Avalon got written off. We got a 2007 Honda Accord with 22K miles on 
> it for what we thought was a reasonable price.
> No real issues with it since. It now has 60K miles on it and we have done 
> tires, a battery, brakes and a starter. Starter was just last week.
> 
> RB


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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

YMMV of course but we bought a former rental car for my wife in 2008 
when her Toyota Avalon got written off. We got a 2007 Honda Accord with 
22K miles on it for what we thought was a reasonable price.
No real issues with it since. It now has 60K miles on it and we have 
done tires, a battery, brakes and a starter. Starter was just last week.


RB

On 06/06/2016 2:40 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes wrote:
The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD 
given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a 
little car. He's OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't 
want to deal with a stealer or CL. Could maybe get an extended 
warranty.  The local/nearby Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans 
and hyundais look all to be ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on 
getting an ex-rental with 15-20k-ish miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 
old with reasonable miles.  He kinda liked a RAV4 but they only had 
2WD models, the others I looked at are 4WD.


The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive 
it, I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and 
the prices are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.


Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running 
fine but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He 
got another one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match 
the car's computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the 
time it is pulled, flashed, organized somehow, then reinstalled.  He 
can't get it inspected in nannyland without doing that, I can't see 
putting that kind of $$ into an 18yo car, I could probably sell it 
here and get something for it or give it to the girl again.





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[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

I wouldn't mind it but he just doesn't want to fool with an older car, 
even though it might be fairly reliable.  BTDT.


--R


On 6/6/16 4:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe you should get this?  We can swap in the interior from Wilton's car.

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On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD given
he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little car. He's
OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't want to deal with a
stealer or CL.  Could maybe get an extended warranty.  The local/nearby
Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans and hyundais look all to be
ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on getting an ex-rental with 15-20k-ish
miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 old with reasonable miles.  He kinda liked
a RAV4 but they only had 2WD models, the others I looked at are 4WD.

The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive it,
I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and the prices
are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.

Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running fine
but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He got another
one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match the car's
computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the time it is
pulled, flashed, organized somehow, then reinstalled.  He can't get it
inspected in nannyland without doing that, I can't see putting that kind of
$$ into an 18yo car, I could probably sell it here and get something for it
or give it to the girl again.

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Maybe you should get this?  We can swap in the interior from Wilton's car.

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On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
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> The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD given
> he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little car. He's
> OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't want to deal with a
> stealer or CL.  Could maybe get an extended warranty.  The local/nearby
> Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans and hyundais look all to be
> ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on getting an ex-rental with 15-20k-ish
> miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 old with reasonable miles.  He kinda liked
> a RAV4 but they only had 2WD models, the others I looked at are 4WD.
>
> The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive it,
> I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and the prices
> are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.
>
> Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running fine
> but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He got another
> one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match the car's
> computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the time it is
> pulled, flashed, organized somehow, then reinstalled.  He can't get it
> inspected in nannyland without doing that, I can't see putting that kind of
> $$ into an 18yo car, I could probably sell it here and get something for it
> or give it to the girl again.
>
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[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD 
given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little 
car. He's OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't want to 
deal with a stealer or CL.  Could maybe get an extended warranty.  The 
local/nearby Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans and hyundais 
look all to be ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on getting an 
ex-rental with 15-20k-ish miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 old with 
reasonable miles.  He kinda liked a RAV4 but they only had 2WD models, 
the others I looked at are 4WD.


The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive 
it, I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and the 
prices are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.


Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running fine 
but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He got 
another one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match the 
car's computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the time 
it is pulled, flashed, organized somehow, then reinstalled.  He can't 
get it inspected in nannyland without doing that, I can't see putting 
that kind of $$ into an 18yo car, I could probably sell it here and get 
something for it or give it to the girl again.


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