Re: [MBZ] One For Dan
I’ve done it, it’s a pig of a job because of where the ABS unit is located. Cheap repair, but really unpleasant to do, like motor mounts. -D > On Jun 9, 2021, at 10:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > I see guys saying they fix the motors with hardware store brushes and all is > good > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jun 9, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I investigated this one a couple of days ago. Not sure why it’s relisted. >> Don’t recall the reason for rejecting it after corresponding with the >> seller. Probably because of miles. >> >> Found a 2002 ML320 on the local FB Marketplace. Has BAS light and the owner >> says it needs a yaw sensor, even had the part number. This is a common >> failure on these but the part is now NLA from Mercedes but it can be found >> in the aftermarket for around $130. Only problem is that a BAS fault is >> usually a precursor to an ABS pump motor with bad brushes. It just goes >> downhill from there. Too bad, as it only like 130k on the clock. >> >> -D >> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Miles are a bit high. I wonder if has the factory tow package. >>> >>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/pinellas-park-2002-mercedes-benz-ml320/7334199499.html >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan
I see guys saying they fix the motors with hardware store brushes and all is good --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 9, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I investigated this one a couple of days ago. Not sure why it’s relisted. > Don’t recall the reason for rejecting it after corresponding with the seller. > Probably because of miles. > > Found a 2002 ML320 on the local FB Marketplace. Has BAS light and the owner > says it needs a yaw sensor, even had the part number. This is a common > failure on these but the part is now NLA from Mercedes but it can be found in > the aftermarket for around $130. Only problem is that a BAS fault is usually > a precursor to an ABS pump motor with bad brushes. It just goes downhill from > there. Too bad, as it only like 130k on the clock. > > -D > >> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Miles are a bit high. I wonder if has the factory tow package. >> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/pinellas-park-2002-mercedes-benz-ml320/7334199499.html >> >> >> Rick >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan
I investigated this one a couple of days ago. Not sure why it’s relisted. Don’t recall the reason for rejecting it after corresponding with the seller. Probably because of miles. Found a 2002 ML320 on the local FB Marketplace. Has BAS light and the owner says it needs a yaw sensor, even had the part number. This is a common failure on these but the part is now NLA from Mercedes but it can be found in the aftermarket for around $130. Only problem is that a BAS fault is usually a precursor to an ABS pump motor with bad brushes. It just goes downhill from there. Too bad, as it only like 130k on the clock. -D > On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Miles are a bit high. I wonder if has the factory tow package. > > https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/pinellas-park-2002-mercedes-benz-ml320/7334199499.html > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan
Is the color black or dark blue? Max Dillon Charleston SC Jun 9, 2021 3:29:03 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes : > A little high for the miles but looks fairly decent, could probably negotiate > to something a little more reasonable. > > --FT > > On 6/9/21 3:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >> Miles are a bit high. I wonder if has the factory tow package. >> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/pinellas-park-2002-mercedes-benz-ml320/7334199499.html >> >> >> Rick >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > -- > --FT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan
A little high for the miles but looks fairly decent, could probably negotiate to something a little more reasonable. --FT On 6/9/21 3:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Miles are a bit high. I wonder if has the factory tow package. https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/pinellas-park-2002-mercedes-benz-ml320/7334199499.html Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] One For Dan
Miles are a bit high. I wonder if has the factory tow package. https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/pinellas-park-2002-mercedes-benz-ml320/7334199499.html Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That looks really nice but yeah that is probably about $1k too high. The 320 performs well and gets good fuel mileage 21-22Mpg in my wagon. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Mar 11, 2021, at 6:25 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Not a wagon though. Slightly over priced too. > > https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/land-lakes-2004-mercedes-e320/7289960587.html > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] One For Dan
Not a wagon though. Slightly over priced too. https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/land-lakes-2004-mercedes-e320/7289960587.html Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Incorrect, the late 70s GM diesels we're junk. By '82 they had figured it out. Today you rarely see them but square body GM trucks rusted bad so they're relatively rare now anyway, it's no big surprise the least common of them are quite rare... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: a lot of them never lived long enough to go back to the stealer because it needed service. They just self destructed. The early 80s GM diesels are POS. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Not really. The big problem with them was back then people did not know how > to work on them (dealers) > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Sounds like my Ford Explorer... LarryT On 07/25/2018 11:36 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Underpowered and thirsty but by the end of the run rugged and reliable... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 8:41 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: It is still a POS. Rumor of not, it doesn't matter. A POS is a POS. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: The 5.7 was built from the ground up as a diesel, it was never a converted gas engine. This is a rumor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Underpowered and thirsty but by the end of the run rugged and reliable... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 8:41 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: It is still a POS. Rumor of not, it doesn't matter. A POS is a POS. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > The 5.7 was built from the ground up as a diesel, it was never a converted > gas engine. This is a rumor. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Agree wholeheartedly! I had a 78 Malibu w/a smallish V8 - the engine (not the transmission) ran great but all the other bits of the car had been "cheaped to death" as you described, I especially disliked the fasteners - mostly flat sheet metal w/a little hole and a twisted piece of metal in the hole to grab the bolt (barely). they always seemed too strip way to easily. That car was a good car, but without the cheapy-ness it would have been much better. I'm sure there were more things I disliked but it's been 30+ years.. ;-) LarryT On 07/24/2018 9:08 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Another GM idea cheaped to death ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Two problems with those GM engines: original rear main bearing design was grossly inadequate and the fuel filters were totally inadequate for the quality of the fuel available (read very poor). Very small amounts of water in the fuel would trash the rotary pump (I seem to remember it was a Stanadyne, but I'm not really sure) and there was no water trap in the fuel filter, which wasn't fine enough anyway. Lots of dead cars because the fuel pump ate itself on truck stop diesel. Truck diesel was terrible in those days, it's still not really up to European grade. It was common to spin a rear bearing at 25,000 mile intervals on the early engines. As a stationary engine with good fuel they run forever. They also had glow plug issues, the compression was too low, and the heads had cracking problems in road use, too. Another GM idea cheaped to death -- with a turbo, 21:1 compression ratio, and properly programmed injection timing it would have cranked out 250 hp and 300 ft/lbs of torque and been a screamer. Instead it was either a boat anchor or a smoke belching slug. They were VERY slow on upgrades, and smoked horribly at full throttle like all low compression diesels. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
a lot of them never lived long enough to go back to the stealer because it needed service. They just self destructed. The early 80s GM diesels are POS. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Not really. The big problem with them was back then people did not know how to work on them (dealers) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Not really. The big problem with them was back then people did not know how to work on them (dealers) Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2018, at 7:41 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > It is still a POS. Rumor of not, it doesn't matter. A POS is a POS. > > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> The 5.7 was built from the ground up as a diesel, it was never a converted >> gas engine. This is a rumor. >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
It is still a POS. Rumor of not, it doesn't matter. A POS is a POS. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: The 5.7 was built from the ground up as a diesel, it was never a converted gas engine. This is a rumor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Thanks, nice to know we are still allowed to have an opinion, on this list any way... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 23, 2018 8:23:17 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > >Your opinion may vary, however. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
I recall that the failed 6.2l in my '87? Suburban was a Mexican product. Was the 5.7 also Mexican? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 7:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P The 5.7 was built from the ground up as a diesel, it was never a converted gas engine. This is a rumor. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I seem > to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 mile per > gallon IIRC. > > Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas > engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling > pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more costly > than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. > > LarryT > > >> On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >> I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>>> BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I >>>> assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... >>>> >>>> LarryT >>>> >>>> For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets >>> dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
A very persistent rumor. I'm pretty sure we've discussed it on this forum repeatedly... -Curt On Monday, July 23, 2018, 10:30:24 PM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: The 5.7 was built from the ground up as a diesel, it was never a converted gas engine. This is a rumor. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I seem > to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 mile per > gallon IIRC. > > Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas > engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling > pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more costly > than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. > > LarryT > > >> On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >> I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >>> BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... LarryT For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets >>> dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
The 5.7 was built from the ground up as a diesel, it was never a converted gas engine. This is a rumor. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I seem > to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 mile per > gallon IIRC. > > Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas > engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling > pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more costly > than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. > > LarryT > > >> On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >> I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >>> BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... LarryT For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets >>> dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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GM didn't modify a gas engine, they just shared displacement. It wasn't broken cranks either, they didn't have sufficient head clamping. It was fixed by the end of the run but nobody wants to hear that part. The 5.7l diesel blocks are prized by hot rodders as they're stronger than the gasser blocks... -Curt On Monday, July 23, 2018, 7:41:58 PM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I seem to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 mile per gallon IIRC. Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more costly than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. LarryT On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> >> Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >> >>> BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I >>> assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... >>> >>> LarryT >>> >>> For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets >> dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Exactly! On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > including the consumers IMO > > > > On 07/23/2018 8:09 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >> It was the principle of the matter - someone lied, all will be punished. >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I >>> seem to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 >>> mile per gallon IIRC. >>> >>> Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas >>> engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling >>> pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more >>> costly than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. >>> >>> LarryT >>> >>> >>> >>> On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: > > BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the > US? I > >> assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... >> >> LarryT >> >> For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets >> >> dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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including the consumers IMO On 07/23/2018 8:09 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: It was the principle of the matter - someone lied, all will be punished. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I seem to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 mile per gallon IIRC. Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more costly than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. LarryT On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... LarryT For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ima real man then! --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 23, 2018, at 8:23 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Real men drive Diesels I haven't seen any real men in Europe OR > California in a couple decades to busy with their man buns and skinny > jeans, I opine. > Your opinion may vary, however. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> >>> On July 23, 2018 at 5:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Yurp is working on banning them. Some reaction to the emissions debacle >> plus concerns about particulates and health. >> >> I know London and Paris don't want diesels, with or without particulate >> filters. >> California doesn't want commercial diesels without particulate filters. >> >> Mitch. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Real men drive Diesels I haven't seen any real men in Europe OR California in a couple decades to busy with their man buns and skinny jeans, I opine. Your opinion may vary, however. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On July 23, 2018 at 5:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Yurp is working on banning them. Some reaction to the emissions debacle > plus concerns about particulates and health. > > I know London and Paris don't want diesels, with or without particulate > filters. > California doesn't want commercial diesels without particulate filters. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> On July 23, 2018 at 8:09 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > > It was the principle of the matter - someone lied, all will be punished. I believe that concept, plus attempts at winning the courthouse lottery, resulted in a baseless class action suit or two against GM, alleging that GM did the same thing as VW. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It was the principle of the matter - someone lied, all will be punished. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I > seem to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 > mile per gallon IIRC. > > Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas > engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling > pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more > costly than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. > > LarryT > > > > On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >> I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... LarryT For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets >>> dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I seem to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 mile per gallon IIRC. Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more costly than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. LarryT On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... LarryT For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: > >> >> BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I >> assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... >> >> LarryT >> >> For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets > dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> On July 23, 2018 at 5:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Yurp is working on banning them. Some reaction to the emissions debacle plus > concerns about particulates and health. I know London and Paris don't want diesels, with or without particulate filters. California doesn't want commercial diesels without particulate filters. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, the EU nannies at picking at IE for having Dissels. IE is tryin to figger out if they buckle, or if they buck the EU nannies. I am hoping for being Irish, and putting up a fight! Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Yurp is working on banning them. Some reaction to the emissions debacle plus concerns about particulates and health. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yurp is working on banning them. Some reaction to the emissions debacle plus concerns about particulates and health. --R Sent from iPhone > On Jul 23, 2018, at 5:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >> >> BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I >> assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... >> >> LarryT >> > For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets > dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... LarryT For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wish it were feasible to transplant the 1991 diesel and all it's systems into my 2006 E350. Probably be a bear to do if possible at all for less than the price of a newer diesel. BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... LarryT On 07/22/2018 6:46 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: RE: engine swap for 110.110.10 (190Dc/200D) OM617 won't fit. You'd have to start with a 6 cyl vergasser for that. Om616 will fit, if from a 4 speed car, and with relocation/remote oelfilter. OM601 would probably work, probably with additional massive relocations. OM 616 bell housing will bolt up to the original trans ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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RE: engine swap for 110.110.10(190Dc/200D) OM617 won't fit. You'd have to start with a 6 cyl vergasser for that. Om616 will fit, if from a 4 speed car, and with relocation/remote oelfilter. OM601 would probably work, probably with additional massive relocations. OM 616 bell housing will bolt up to the original trans ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah it looks fairly straight unless that is a cheap respray and no telling what’s under it. Interior not too bad. A quick bit of the googles suggests engine swaps might be possible if the one In it is inop but there’s not a lot of length in the engine bay and the diff and rear axles probably won’t take much torque so they would need swapping too. $1000 maybe if not less? --R Sent from iPhone > On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > This could actually be a car worth messing with. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 19, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Looks like a cool car but the ignition switch is buggered. Wonder what it >> means it needs a distributor to run? Injection pump or something? Wonder >> how hard it would be to drop in a 617 or something else. >> >> --FT >> >> >>> On 7/19/18 2:18 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>> If he hasn't quit the list... >>> >>> https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz/6622923795.html >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> --FT >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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This could actually be a car worth messing with. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 19, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Looks like a cool car but the ignition switch is buggered. Wonder what it > means it needs a distributor to run? Injection pump or something? Wonder > how hard it would be to drop in a 617 or something else. > > --FT > > >> On 7/19/18 2:18 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >> If he hasn't quit the list... >> >> https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz/6622923795.html >> >> Rick >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Looks like a cool car but the ignition switch is buggered. Wonder what it means it needs a distributor to run? Injection pump or something? Wonder how hard it would be to drop in a 617 or something else. --FT On 7/19/18 2:18 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: If he hasn't quit the list... https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz/6622923795.html Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 18:18:58 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > If he hasn't quit the list... > > https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz/6622923795.html That looks like the one we used to own, except it is white instead of red. Craig -- Past: '64 190Dc Emma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If he hasn't quit the list... https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz/6622923795.html Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's a classic color combo for fintails. Very much "in your face". I like it but not the price. :( On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dan, > > Are you still looking for a clean fintail? I found a really expensive one > for you. > > http://www.mercedesmotoring.com/cars/316/ > > I mean, it's only $17,500, so that's walkin' `round money. > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > If anyone has half a brain they will want to take advantage of his > > professed buyer’s remorse and offer him less than what he paid. After > all, > > if he’s so sorry he bought it, wouldn’t he expect to take a loss to get > rid > > of it? > > > > -D > > > > > > > On Jun 24, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> On June 24, 2017 at 6:29 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> On a related note, the schmuck that bought my 300D is getting requests > > to sell it on the “buyer’s remorse” story. Guess if he wants to take a > > loss he might be able to get rid of it. > > > > > > Somebody might offer him BAT money (7k) for it, they can plainly see > > what he paid and might regret not doing it themselves. > > > I'm sure the transaction price will never be publicized unless he > > auctions it himself. > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > -- > "Das beste oder nichts." - *Gottlieb Daimler* > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan, Are you still looking for a clean fintail? I found a really expensive one for you. http://www.mercedesmotoring.com/cars/316/ I mean, it's only $17,500, so that's walkin' `round money. On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > If anyone has half a brain they will want to take advantage of his > professed buyer’s remorse and offer him less than what he paid. After all, > if he’s so sorry he bought it, wouldn’t he expect to take a loss to get rid > of it? > > -D > > > > On Jun 24, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > >> On June 24, 2017 at 6:29 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> On a related note, the schmuck that bought my 300D is getting requests > to sell it on the “buyer’s remorse” story. Guess if he wants to take a > loss he might be able to get rid of it. > > > > Somebody might offer him BAT money (7k) for it, they can plainly see > what he paid and might regret not doing it themselves. > > I'm sure the transaction price will never be publicized unless he > auctions it himself. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- "Das beste oder nichts." - *Gottlieb Daimler* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If anyone has half a brain they will want to take advantage of his professed buyer’s remorse and offer him less than what he paid. After all, if he’s so sorry he bought it, wouldn’t he expect to take a loss to get rid of it? -D > On Jun 24, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On June 24, 2017 at 6:29 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> On a related note, the schmuck that bought my 300D is getting requests to >> sell it on the “buyer’s remorse” story. Guess if he wants to take a loss he >> might be able to get rid of it. > > Somebody might offer him BAT money (7k) for it, they can plainly see what he > paid and might regret not doing it themselves. > I'm sure the transaction price will never be publicized unless he auctions it > himself. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> On June 24, 2017 at 6:29 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > On a related note, the schmuck that bought my 300D is getting requests to > sell it on the “buyer’s remorse” story. Guess if he wants to take a loss he > might be able to get rid of it. Somebody might offer him BAT money (7k) for it, they can plainly see what he paid and might regret not doing it themselves. I'm sure the transaction price will never be publicized unless he auctions it himself. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Already saw it. This si a sort of rally car someone has been showing around on BAT for a couple of years. People will end up paying stupid money for it. On a related note, the schmuck that bought my 300D is getting requests to sell it on the “buyer’s remorse” story. Guess if he wants to take a loss he might be able to get rid of it. -D > On Jun 24, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-mercedes-benz-230s/ > > No Reserve: 1967 Mercedes-Benz 230S Fintail > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-mercedes-benz-230s/ No Reserve: 1967 Mercedes-Benz 230S Fintail ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I’ll stick with W126 and earlier for now, thank you. I really prefer the legacy stuff any more after driving my 350SDL. Dan > On Jun 22, 2016, at 8:05 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > there was a w140 600SE that may have wanted your attention > > clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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there was a w140 600SE that may have wanted your attention clay > On Jun 22, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Interesting. More than I paid for mine, and more miles, too. > > Dan > >> On Jun 22, 2016, at 7:00 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Interesting. More than I paid for mine, and more miles, too. Dan > On Jun 22, 2016, at 7:00 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/5607284361.html Not mine, no interest clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Send me pictures of it and I can identify. Also, find the generator nameplate, NOT the engine nameplate, which will have "Kohler" at the top with a mode, spec and serial number. It will most likely be on the side of the alternator (generator) or the controller. Once i know more I can address your needs as far as dry/dual fuel. Dan On Dec 27, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Dieselhead wrote: > > I put in a blind bid on a generator at a sale for an electric motor shop that > is going out of business. Well, I got it. > > When I picked it up the owner said the generator is out of a pullman car. It > has a kohler engine, is probably a kohler genset. 3.5 Kw 115/230 single > phase. It is a heavy sucker. It is reportedly low rpm and quiet. > > I went to Home despot with the generator on the trailer to pick up some > cement blocks to build a base for it, and when I came out, a couple of guys > came over to see it. I was enthralled by someone's 126, and these people > were enthralled by my generator. They said it would be real quiet and long > lived. > > I will need to build a surround for it, as it is not watertight. But that is > a project for sometime later. I also think I can convert it to run on > natural gas. Dual fuel would be even better...Anyhow, i figger in a pinch it > can power some lights and the refrigerator. I like the Quiet part... > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I put in a blind bid on a generator at a sale for an electric motor shop that is going out of business. Well, I got it. When I picked it up the owner said the generator is out of a pullman car. It has a kohler engine, is probably a kohler genset. 3.5 Kw 115/230 single phase. It is a heavy sucker. It is reportedly low rpm and quiet. I went to Home despot with the generator on the trailer to pick up some cement blocks to build a base for it, and when I came out, a couple of guys came over to see it. I was enthralled by someone's 126, and these people were enthralled by my generator. They said it would be real quiet and long lived. I will need to build a surround for it, as it is not watertight. But that is a project for sometime later. I also think I can convert it to run on natural gas. Dual fuel would be even better...Anyhow, i figger in a pinch it can power some lights and the refrigerator. I like the Quiet part... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
