Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-08 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Fuchs stuff is forged - not cast. But I still would not sandblast it.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 2:18 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
wrote:

> DO NOT SAND BLAST
>
> the wheels are cast, soft, and have voids that will be exposed under that
> intense abrasive action.  Soda blasting is about as vigorous as I would
> attempt.  Best to completely wash and remove the old finish by hand with a
> chemical stripper or sanding paper.  Get it fresh and smooth, then you
> could use body fillers to adjust any micro damage.  Give that a finish sand
> and prep it for primer coats.  AT that point a rattle can or hvlp gun
> application of paint and clear and be done.
>
>
> clay
>
> > On Oct 6, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Take them somewhere to get sandblasted then prime and paint
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 10/6/19 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Thanks. Do I need to prime it?
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 12:02 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Würth
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rick
> >>>
> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >>> Sent: October 6, 2019 10:04 AM
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> >>> Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> >>> Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
> >>>
> >>> Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power
> washing
> >>> them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate
> >>> silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the
> >>> originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a
> >>> primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be
> >>> done at ambient temperatures.
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
If you can find a local source for this process, it would be the system of
choice to clean the wheels and prep them for paint, or powder coat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nucYBS4B0bc

This video gives information on how dustless blasting works.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 5:25 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Thanks. I don't have a sandblaster so just used an ordinary power washer to
> get the grime off. I don't know what those professional recent Refinishers
> do or use.
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 5:18 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > DO NOT SAND BLAST
> >
> > the wheels are cast, soft, and have voids that will be exposed under that
> > intense abrasive action.  Soda blasting is about as vigorous as I would
> > attempt.  Best to completely wash and remove the old finish by hand with
> a
> > chemical stripper or sanding paper.  Get it fresh and smooth, then you
> > could use body fillers to adjust any micro damage.  Give that a finish
> sand
> > and prep it for primer coats.  AT that point a rattle can or hvlp gun
> > application of paint and clear and be done.
> >
> >
> > clay
> >
> > > On Oct 6, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Take them somewhere to get sandblasted then prime and paint
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > > On 10/6/19 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> Thanks. Do I need to prime it?
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 12:02 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Würth
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Rick
> > >>>
> > >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >>> Sent: October 6, 2019 10:04 AM
> > >>> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >>> Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> > >>> Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
> > >>>
> > >>> Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power
> > washing
> > >>> them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an
> appropriate
> > >>> silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the
> > >>> originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use
> a
> > >>> primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to
> be
> > >>> done at ambient temperatures.
> > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Thanks. I don't have a sandblaster so just used an ordinary power washer to
get the grime off. I don't know what those professional recent Refinishers
do or use.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 5:18 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
wrote:

> DO NOT SAND BLAST
>
> the wheels are cast, soft, and have voids that will be exposed under that
> intense abrasive action.  Soda blasting is about as vigorous as I would
> attempt.  Best to completely wash and remove the old finish by hand with a
> chemical stripper or sanding paper.  Get it fresh and smooth, then you
> could use body fillers to adjust any micro damage.  Give that a finish sand
> and prep it for primer coats.  AT that point a rattle can or hvlp gun
> application of paint and clear and be done.
>
>
> clay
>
> > On Oct 6, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Take them somewhere to get sandblasted then prime and paint
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 10/6/19 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Thanks. Do I need to prime it?
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 12:02 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Würth
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rick
> >>>
> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >>> Sent: October 6, 2019 10:04 AM
> >>> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >>> Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> >>> Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
> >>>
> >>> Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power
> washing
> >>> them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate
> >>> silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the
> >>> originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a
> >>> primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be
> >>> done at ambient temperatures.
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>> W123 300td
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Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-07 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
DO NOT SAND BLAST

the wheels are cast, soft, and have voids that will be exposed under that 
intense abrasive action.  Soda blasting is about as vigorous as I would 
attempt.  Best to completely wash and remove the old finish by hand with a 
chemical stripper or sanding paper.  Get it fresh and smooth, then you could 
use body fillers to adjust any micro damage.  Give that a finish sand and prep 
it for primer coats.  AT that point a rattle can or hvlp gun application of 
paint and clear and be done.


clay

> On Oct 6, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Take them somewhere to get sandblasted then prime and paint
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 10/6/19 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Thanks. Do I need to prime it?
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 12:02 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Würth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: October 6, 2019 10:04 AM
>>> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
>>> 
>>> Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power washing
>>> them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate
>>> silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the
>>> originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a
>>> primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be
>>> done at ambient temperatures.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> W123 300td
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Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Roger,

Astral Gray was a primary body color for Mercedes in the 70s. While it might 
have been the same color as the wheels, Würth refers to it a “silver wheel 
paint”. At least that’s been my experience.

Switch to ceramic brake pads and your dust will be minimal.

-D

> On Oct 7, 2019, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I may switch to carbon black so I don't have to fret about cleaning off the
> brake dust.
> ;)
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 4:44 PM ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dan,
>> 
>>   I thought they used to call this Worth astral grey...or am I
>> thinking of something else.  The mind wanders and the little grey cells
>> don't like up as good as they used to.
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
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Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I may switch to carbon black so I don't have to fret about cleaning off the
brake dust.
;)


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> Dan,
>
>I thought they used to call this Worth astral grey...or am I
> thinking of something else.  The mind wanders and the little grey cells
> don't like up as good as they used to.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Roger
>
> Roger Hale
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> Monroe, Ga.
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Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-06 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
Dan,

   I thought they used to call this Worth astral grey...or am I thinking of 
something else.  The mind wanders and the little grey cells don't like up as 
good as they used to.

Best Wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale
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Monroe, Ga.
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Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The local refinisher charges 175 per wheel to make them perfect. I can make
them semi perfect for about twenty bucks.

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 1:13 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> As someone mentioned, use the Würth silver wheel paint as it’s an exact
> match.
>
> I never primed any of the wheels I painted and didn’t have later issues
> with adhesion. That’s both after media blasting or just painting over the
> existing finish.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 6, 2019, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power
> washing
> > them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate
> > silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the
> > originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a
> > primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be
> > done at ambient temperatures.
> >
> > Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
As someone mentioned, use the Würth silver wheel paint as it’s an exact match.

I never primed any of the wheels I painted and didn’t have later issues with 
adhesion. That’s both after media blasting or just painting over the existing 
finish.

-D

> On Oct 6, 2019, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power washing
> them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate
> silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the
> originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a
> primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be
> done at ambient temperatures.
> 
> Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Take them somewhere to get sandblasted then prime and paint

--FT

On 10/6/19 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks. Do I need to prime it?

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 12:02 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Würth


Rick

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To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power washing
them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate
silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the
originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a
primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be
done at ambient temperatures.

Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Thanks. Do I need to prime it?

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> Würth
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: October 6, 2019 10:04 AM
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> Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
>
> Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power washing
> them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate
> silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the
> originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a
> primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be
> done at ambient temperatures.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Würth


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power washing
them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate
silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the
originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a
primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be
done at ambient temperatures.

Andrew
W123 300td
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[MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power washing
them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate
silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the
originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a
primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be
done at ambient temperatures.

Andrew
W123 300td
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