Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
Fuchs stuff is forged - not cast. But I still would not sandblast it. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 2:18 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote: > DO NOT SAND BLAST > > the wheels are cast, soft, and have voids that will be exposed under that > intense abrasive action. Soda blasting is about as vigorous as I would > attempt. Best to completely wash and remove the old finish by hand with a > chemical stripper or sanding paper. Get it fresh and smooth, then you > could use body fillers to adjust any micro damage. Give that a finish sand > and prep it for primer coats. AT that point a rattle can or hvlp gun > application of paint and clear and be done. > > > clay > > > On Oct 6, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Take them somewhere to get sandblasted then prime and paint > > > > --FT > > > > On 10/6/19 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> Thanks. Do I need to prime it? > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 12:02 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Würth > >>> > >>> > >>> Rick > >>> > >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>> Sent: October 6, 2019 10:04 AM > >>> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>> Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com > >>> Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels. > >>> > >>> Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power > washing > >>> them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate > >>> silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the > >>> originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a > >>> primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be > >>> done at ambient temperatures. > >>> > >>> Andrew > >>> W123 300td > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > -- > > --FT > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
If you can find a local source for this process, it would be the system of choice to clean the wheels and prep them for paint, or powder coat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nucYBS4B0bc This video gives information on how dustless blasting works. On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 5:25 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks. I don't have a sandblaster so just used an ordinary power washer to > get the grime off. I don't know what those professional recent Refinishers > do or use. > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 5:18 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > DO NOT SAND BLAST > > > > the wheels are cast, soft, and have voids that will be exposed under that > > intense abrasive action. Soda blasting is about as vigorous as I would > > attempt. Best to completely wash and remove the old finish by hand with > a > > chemical stripper or sanding paper. Get it fresh and smooth, then you > > could use body fillers to adjust any micro damage. Give that a finish > sand > > and prep it for primer coats. AT that point a rattle can or hvlp gun > > application of paint and clear and be done. > > > > > > clay > > > > > On Oct 6, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Take them somewhere to get sandblasted then prime and paint > > > > > > --FT > > > > > > On 10/6/19 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > >> Thanks. Do I need to prime it? > > >> > > >> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 12:02 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Würth > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Rick > > >>> > > >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > >>> Sent: October 6, 2019 10:04 AM > > >>> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com > > >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > >>> Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com > > >>> Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels. > > >>> > > >>> Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power > > washing > > >>> them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an > appropriate > > >>> silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the > > >>> originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use > a > > >>> primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to > be > > >>> done at ambient temperatures. > > >>> > > >>> Andrew > > >>> W123 300td > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > > -- > > > --FT > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
Thanks. I don't have a sandblaster so just used an ordinary power washer to get the grime off. I don't know what those professional recent Refinishers do or use. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 5:18 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote: > DO NOT SAND BLAST > > the wheels are cast, soft, and have voids that will be exposed under that > intense abrasive action. Soda blasting is about as vigorous as I would > attempt. Best to completely wash and remove the old finish by hand with a > chemical stripper or sanding paper. Get it fresh and smooth, then you > could use body fillers to adjust any micro damage. Give that a finish sand > and prep it for primer coats. AT that point a rattle can or hvlp gun > application of paint and clear and be done. > > > clay > > > On Oct 6, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Take them somewhere to get sandblasted then prime and paint > > > > --FT > > > > On 10/6/19 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> Thanks. Do I need to prime it? > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 12:02 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Würth > >>> > >>> > >>> Rick > >>> > >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>> Sent: October 6, 2019 10:04 AM > >>> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>> Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com > >>> Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels. > >>> > >>> Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power > washing > >>> them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate > >>> silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the > >>> originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a > >>> primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be > >>> done at ambient temperatures. > >>> > >>> Andrew > >>> W123 300td > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > -- > > --FT > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
DO NOT SAND BLAST the wheels are cast, soft, and have voids that will be exposed under that intense abrasive action. Soda blasting is about as vigorous as I would attempt. Best to completely wash and remove the old finish by hand with a chemical stripper or sanding paper. Get it fresh and smooth, then you could use body fillers to adjust any micro damage. Give that a finish sand and prep it for primer coats. AT that point a rattle can or hvlp gun application of paint and clear and be done. clay > On Oct 6, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Take them somewhere to get sandblasted then prime and paint > > --FT > > On 10/6/19 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> Thanks. Do I need to prime it? >> >> On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 12:02 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Würth >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Sent: October 6, 2019 10:04 AM >>> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com >>> Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels. >>> >>> Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power washing >>> them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate >>> silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the >>> originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a >>> primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be >>> done at ambient temperatures. >>> >>> Andrew >>> W123 300td >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
Roger, Astral Gray was a primary body color for Mercedes in the 70s. While it might have been the same color as the wheels, Würth refers to it a “silver wheel paint”. At least that’s been my experience. Switch to ceramic brake pads and your dust will be minimal. -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I may switch to carbon black so I don't have to fret about cleaning off the > brake dust. > ;) > > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 4:44 PM ROGER HALE via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Dan, >> >> I thought they used to call this Worth astral grey...or am I >> thinking of something else. The mind wanders and the little grey cells >> don't like up as good as they used to. >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Roger >> >> Roger Hale >> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. >> Monroe, Ga. >> 770-267-0850 >> www.dinnerwareclassics.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
I may switch to carbon black so I don't have to fret about cleaning off the brake dust. ;) On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 4:44 PM ROGER HALE via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dan, > >I thought they used to call this Worth astral grey...or am I > thinking of something else. The mind wanders and the little grey cells > don't like up as good as they used to. > > Best Wishes, > > Roger > > Roger Hale > Dinnerware Classics, Inc. > Monroe, Ga. > 770-267-0850 > www.dinnerwareclassics.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
Dan, I thought they used to call this Worth astral grey...or am I thinking of something else. The mind wanders and the little grey cells don't like up as good as they used to. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
The local refinisher charges 175 per wheel to make them perfect. I can make them semi perfect for about twenty bucks. On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 1:13 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > As someone mentioned, use the Würth silver wheel paint as it’s an exact > match. > > I never primed any of the wheels I painted and didn’t have later issues > with adhesion. That’s both after media blasting or just painting over the > existing finish. > > -D > > > On Oct 6, 2019, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power > washing > > them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate > > silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the > > originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a > > primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be > > done at ambient temperatures. > > > > Andrew > > W123 300td > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
As someone mentioned, use the Würth silver wheel paint as it’s an exact match. I never primed any of the wheels I painted and didn’t have later issues with adhesion. That’s both after media blasting or just painting over the existing finish. -D > On Oct 6, 2019, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power washing > them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate > silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the > originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a > primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be > done at ambient temperatures. > > Andrew > W123 300td > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
Take them somewhere to get sandblasted then prime and paint --FT On 10/6/19 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Thanks. Do I need to prime it? On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 12:02 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Würth Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: October 6, 2019 10:04 AM To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels. Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power washing them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be done at ambient temperatures. Andrew W123 300td ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
Thanks. Do I need to prime it? On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 12:02 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Würth > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: October 6, 2019 10:04 AM > To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com > Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels. > > Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power washing > them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate > silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the > originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a > primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be > done at ambient temperatures. > > Andrew > W123 300td > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
Würth Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: October 6, 2019 10:04 AM To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels. Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power washing them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be done at ambient temperatures. Andrew W123 300td ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.
Going to attempt to refinish my spare set of alloy wheels by power washing them, thoroughly drying them and then painting them with an appropriate silver spray paint. I need something that matches the color of the originals and is also durable. I wondered whether I should first use a primer as well. Any recommendations greatly appreciated. This has to be done at ambient temperatures. Andrew W123 300td ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com