Re: [MBZ] Rousting Rusty, or new muffler for my '87TD

2007-03-05 Thread Rich Thomas
So what is the deal with WP vs OEM or Benz parts?  Is WP some knock-off 
thing?  Does that go for various parts or just this muffler?


--R




Re: [MBZ] Rousting Rusty, or new muffler for my '87TD

2007-03-05 Thread LarryT

Hi Joe,
   Sorry to hear of your troubles.  I bought a complete exhaust system for 
my 78 240D from Rusty a couple of years ago - and last Jan I bought a rear 
muffler for the 91 300D which looked to be identical to the original that 
came off - and the fit was perfect.


   My point being, Rusty's parts suppliers get/sell different brands and 
the selection is often a basis of price.   I suspect WP supplied whatever 
they had on the shelf and its quality was the result of WPs never-ending 
quest to remain competitive by reducing prices.  You'd be amazed at the 
number of people who buy strictly on the basis of price regardless of 
quality.   Some people will spend an inordinate amount of time trying to 
make a POS part fit (i.e, get a bigger hammer - also known as a BFH) when 
the OEM part would slip right in.


   I guess the most important part is seeing Rusty step up and provide a 
replacement at a competitive price.
We're very lucky to have Rusty working with us to make things right.  The 
added benefit of having Rusty monitor the list and provide help on parts 
without being asked.  Don't see that very often/


(Rusty, please send the check to my usual address)   ;-)

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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- Original Message - 
From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:39 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Rousting Rusty, or new muffler for my '87TD



Bit of an odyssey over over muffler replacement.  Ordered new one thru
Tom at Rusty's about 3 weeks ago.  WoldPac muffler as delivered was a
useless pos.  Rusty stepped right up and issued a call tag for return
all the way to Atlanta so he could show the thing to his local WP rep.
He also offered to get me a new OE muffler for just a few bux more
than the offending unit, which offer I accepted with some alacrity.
New muffler installed yesterday is identical to the unit it's
replacing leaving me a completely happy camper - at least I will be as
soon as I see a credit for the returned pos on my card statement.
http://jsknight.googlepages.com/wagonmufflerpics
Pics of both are to be found thru the above link.  About the only
reason to download the pdf is to be able to see the notes I've
appended.  What they point out is that the 1st bend in the inlet pipe
is at the wrong angle rendering the thing useless even were I
otherwise inclined to live with such an abomination.   Point I want to
make is that, unless WP cleans up its act in this regard,  anyone
looking to replace a muffler would do well to stick with OE, and not
even just OEM.

-joe

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Re: [MBZ] Rousting Rusty, or new muffler for my '87TD

2007-03-05 Thread andrew strasfogel

Rusty has done this sort of service before for  me.  He's True
Religion for new Mercedes car parts.

On 3/4/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Joe,
Sorry to hear of your troubles.  I bought a complete exhaust system for
my 78 240D from Rusty a couple of years ago - and last Jan I bought a rear
muffler for the 91 300D which looked to be identical to the original that
came off - and the fit was perfect.

My point being, Rusty's parts suppliers get/sell different brands and
the selection is often a basis of price.   I suspect WP supplied whatever
they had on the shelf and its quality was the result of WPs never-ending
quest to remain competitive by reducing prices.  You'd be amazed at the
number of people who buy strictly on the basis of price regardless of
quality.   Some people will spend an inordinate amount of time trying to
make a POS part fit (i.e, get a bigger hammer - also known as a BFH) when
the OEM part would slip right in.

I guess the most important part is seeing Rusty step up and provide a
replacement at a competitive price.
We're very lucky to have Rusty working with us to make things right.  The
added benefit of having Rusty monitor the list and provide help on parts
without being asked.  Don't see that very often/

(Rusty, please send the check to my usual address)   ;-)

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
.
- Original Message -
From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:39 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Rousting Rusty, or new muffler for my '87TD


 Bit of an odyssey over over muffler replacement.  Ordered new one thru
 Tom at Rusty's about 3 weeks ago.  WoldPac muffler as delivered was a
 useless pos.  Rusty stepped right up and issued a call tag for return
 all the way to Atlanta so he could show the thing to his local WP rep.
 He also offered to get me a new OE muffler for just a few bux more
 than the offending unit, which offer I accepted with some alacrity.
 New muffler installed yesterday is identical to the unit it's
 replacing leaving me a completely happy camper - at least I will be as
 soon as I see a credit for the returned pos on my card statement.
 http://jsknight.googlepages.com/wagonmufflerpics
 Pics of both are to be found thru the above link.  About the only
 reason to download the pdf is to be able to see the notes I've
 appended.  What they point out is that the 1st bend in the inlet pipe
 is at the wrong angle rendering the thing useless even were I
 otherwise inclined to live with such an abomination.   Point I want to
 make is that, unless WP cleans up its act in this regard,  anyone
 looking to replace a muffler would do well to stick with OE, and not
 even just OEM.

 -joe

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[MBZ] Rousting Rusty, or new muffler for my '87TD

2007-03-04 Thread Joe Knight

Bit of an odyssey over over muffler replacement.  Ordered new one thru
Tom at Rusty's about 3 weeks ago.  WoldPac muffler as delivered was a
useless pos.  Rusty stepped right up and issued a call tag for return
all the way to Atlanta so he could show the thing to his local WP rep.
He also offered to get me a new OE muffler for just a few bux more
than the offending unit, which offer I accepted with some alacrity.
New muffler installed yesterday is identical to the unit it's
replacing leaving me a completely happy camper - at least I will be as
soon as I see a credit for the returned pos on my card statement.
http://jsknight.googlepages.com/wagonmufflerpics
Pics of both are to be found thru the above link.  About the only
reason to download the pdf is to be able to see the notes I've
appended.  What they point out is that the 1st bend in the inlet pipe
is at the wrong angle rendering the thing useless even were I
otherwise inclined to live with such an abomination.   Point I want to
make is that, unless WP cleans up its act in this regard,  anyone
looking to replace a muffler would do well to stick with OE, and not
even just OEM.

-joe