Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-14 Thread Walt Zarnoch
That's what he said!

Walt, who couldn't resist the temptation.
On May 14, 2012 8:03 AM, "Dimitri Seretakis"  wrote:

> It had steel nuts.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 13, 2012, at 11:06 PM, OK Don  wrote:
>
> DId it have the original copper nuts, or were they replaced with steel
> ones? I've been amazed at the ease of removing the copper nuts from bolts
> that I was sure would break. Not finger loose by any means, but no where
> near as hard as I expected due to the condition of the threads they were
> going over.
>
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  >wrote:
>
> It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the header pipe
> to  the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after mutiple penetrant
> applications- over a few days. The second was really stubborn- it was
> starting to come but ultimately snapped which is fine as the bolt just
> passes through the flanges- not threaded thru anything. Overall was a
> moderate PITA. How do mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns?
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
It had steel nuts.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 13, 2012, at 11:06 PM, OK Don  wrote:

DId it have the original copper nuts, or were they replaced with steel
ones? I've been amazed at the ease of removing the copper nuts from bolts
that I was sure would break. Not finger loose by any means, but no where
near as hard as I expected due to the condition of the threads they were
going over.

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the header pipe
to  the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after mutiple penetrant
applications- over a few days. The second was really stubborn- it was
starting to come but ultimately snapped which is fine as the bolt just
passes through the flanges- not threaded thru anything. Overall was a
moderate PITA. How do mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns?
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-13 Thread Jim Cathey

How do mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns?


Smoke wrench.  Or twist 'em in half and replace.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-13 Thread Dieselhead
Coppers drive around in cars looking for trouble to inflict on the 
citizenry.  Copper nuts are for 'merkun junk with mild steel studs in 
the exhaust manifold.  The MB exhaust pipe nuts may have a plating on 
them, but every one I have seen is high grade steel (self locking), 
to match the high grade bolts used.  (OM621 to OM603, and same 
vintage gassers) (1959-1989)




DId it have the original copper nuts, or were they replaced with steel
ones? I've been amazed at the ease of removing the copper nuts from bolts
that I was sure would break. Not finger loose by any means, but no where
near as hard as I expected due to the condition of the threads they were
going over.

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis 
wrote:



 It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the header pipe
 to  the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after mutiple penetrant
 applications- over a few days. The second was really stubborn- it was
 starting to come but ultimately snapped which is fine as the bolt just
 passes through the flanges- not threaded thru anything. Overall was a
 moderate PITA. How do mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns?
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-13 Thread Dieselhead
Long time ago I learned that if you replace the good MB bolts and 
nuts with 5/16" 'merkun bolts, the next time you need to do the job, 
the 'merkun bolts will twist off with 1/4 turn.  Much faster.   Rust 
up solid.  Just a little turn, and they pop right off.  Of course you 
have to have new bolts and nuts.


It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the 
header pipe to  the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after 
mutiple penetrant applications- over a few days. The second was 
really stubborn- it was starting to come but ultimately snapped 
which is fine as the bolt just passes through the flanges- not 
threaded thru anything. Overall was a moderate PITA. How do 
mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns?


Air tools or a flame wrench.

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Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-13 Thread OK Don
DId it have the original copper nuts, or were they replaced with steel
ones? I've been amazed at the ease of removing the copper nuts from bolts
that I was sure would break. Not finger loose by any means, but no where
near as hard as I expected due to the condition of the threads they were
going over.

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

> It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the header pipe
> to  the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after mutiple penetrant
> applications- over a few days. The second was really stubborn- it was
> starting to come but ultimately snapped which is fine as the bolt just
> passes through the flanges- not threaded thru anything. Overall was a
> moderate PITA. How do mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns?
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-13 Thread Craig
On Sun, 13 May 2012 19:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis
 wrote:

> It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the header
> pipe to  the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after mutiple
> penetrant applications- over a few days. The second was really
> stubborn- it was starting to come but ultimately snapped which is fine
> as the bolt just passes through the flanges- not threaded thru
> anything. Overall was a moderate PITA. How do mechanics do this so
> quickly? Impact guns?

Probably.

When I was doing the power steering pump on the '94 E420, I borrowed a
3/8" air rachet from my neighbor. That, a couple of short extensions and
a couple of U-joints was the only way to get one of the bolts off.


Craig

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[MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

2012-05-13 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the header pipe to  
the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after mutiple penetrant 
applications- over a few days. The second was really stubborn- it was starting 
to come but ultimately snapped which is fine as the bolt just passes through 
the flanges- not threaded thru anything. Overall was a moderate PITA. How do 
mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns? 
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