[MBZ] Scan tools for late-model Benz (was: Kaleb's new '99 E430)
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 5:19 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I've both. There are insane amounts of stuff that the aftermarket tools cant do; transmission temperature comes to mind, as does HID headlight aiming... For what it's worth, Autoenginuity's site does list transmission temperature among the realtime data their software can read, if I am understanding this list correctly: http://www.autoenginuity.com/Mercedes-All-Systems-List.html My mind boggles as to why a computer's help is needed to aim headlights, HID or no. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scan tools for late-model Benz (was: Kaleb's new '99 E430)
Alex Chamberlain wrote: My mind boggles as to why a computer's help is needed to aim headlights, HID or no. Self leveling headlamps? Headlamps that steer, a la Tucker? I think the Citroen SM had steerable headlamps in Europe but not in USA. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scan tools for late-model Benz (was: Kaleb's new '99 E430)
The 99 E Class with HID lights adjusts the beam position depending on rear load so that you don't blind oncoming drivers as much when you put a bunch of crap in the trunk. That was probably cheaper than putting SLS on the car. -Dave Walton On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 5:19 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I've both. There are insane amounts of stuff that the aftermarket tools cant do; transmission temperature comes to mind, as does HID headlight aiming... For what it's worth, Autoenginuity's site does list transmission temperature among the realtime data their software can read, if I am understanding this list correctly: http://www.autoenginuity.com/Mercedes-All-Systems-List.html My mind boggles as to why a computer's help is needed to aim headlights, HID or no. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scan tools for late-model Benz (was: Kaleb's new '99 E430)
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: My mind boggles as to why a computer's help is needed to aim headlights, HID or no. Self leveling headlamps? Headlamps that steer, a la Tucker? I think the Citroen SM had steerable headlamps in Europe but not in USA. Right about the SM per Wikipedia, and I could certainly see D-B engineers wanting to integrate headlight control into a computerized active suspension system such as many of their models now have. (Car goes into a hard turn; computer stiffens suspension on the outside to reduce body roll, and turns headlights a little bit up and into the turn to compensate for weight shift and give the driver a better view.) But I thought John R. was talking about needing the scan tool's help to perform a static aiming, as it were, of the headlights, as opposed to the draw a line on the wall 30 feet away and twiddle the adjusters until the beams look right method. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scan tools for late-model Benz (was: Kaleb's new '99 E430)
Call me cynical, but I suspect they figured they could charge more and keep people like us from diddling with it if it was somehow integrated with the computer. On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: My mind boggles as to why a computer's help is needed to aim headlights, HID or no. Self leveling headlamps? Headlamps that steer, a la Tucker? I think the Citroen SM had steerable headlamps in Europe but not in USA. Right about the SM per Wikipedia, and I could certainly see D-B engineers wanting to integrate headlight control into a computerized active suspension system such as many of their models now have. (Car goes into a hard turn; computer stiffens suspension on the outside to reduce body roll, and turns headlights a little bit up and into the turn to compensate for weight shift and give the driver a better view.) But I thought John R. was talking about needing the scan tool's help to perform a static aiming, as it were, of the headlights, as opposed to the draw a line on the wall 30 feet away and twiddle the adjusters until the beams look right method. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scan tools for late-model Benz (was: Kaleb's new '99 E430)
Nash it's only the HID's and not the halogens; euro law requires washers and levelers on HID's, so you have to make sure the car is empty/level as well as the motors are zeroed when you do the static aim, else you might find yourself illuminating your bumper or overhead signs or something... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 17, 2011, at 12:32, dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: Call me cynical, but I suspect they figured they could charge more and keep people like us from diddling with it if it was somehow integrated with the computer. On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: My mind boggles as to why a computer's help is needed to aim headlights, HID or no. Self leveling headlamps? Headlamps that steer, a la Tucker? I think the Citroen SM had steerable headlamps in Europe but not in USA. Right about the SM per Wikipedia, and I could certainly see D-B engineers wanting to integrate headlight control into a computerized active suspension system such as many of their models now have. (Car goes into a hard turn; computer stiffens suspension on the outside to reduce body roll, and turns headlights a little bit up and into the turn to compensate for weight shift and give the driver a better view.) But I thought John R. was talking about needing the scan tool's help to perform a static aiming, as it were, of the headlights, as opposed to the draw a line on the wall 30 feet away and twiddle the adjusters until the beams look right method. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
