Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
I bought a smart charger (BT-C3400) for these small (aa, AAA, 18650) batteries which can test recharge/discharge to measure capacity. It does NiCD and NiMH as well as Li-ion. I found the cheap Chinese Li-ion batteries had poor (way below spec) capacity that deteriorated with each recharge. For example, an Ultrafire 18650, with a label capacity of 9800 mAh actually delivered only 260, 214, and 161 mAh on three consecutive charge/discharge cycles. On the other hand, I bought some unmarked AA-size (14500) Japanese SANYO batteries (https://www.ebay.com/itm/233176228234). They are nominally 800 mAh and delivered 81x mAh on several successive recharge cycles. Nearly all (fresh) alkaline batteries are close in performance, in my experience. But beware cheap Chinese Li-ion rechargeables, they'll just end up your junk drawer. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 9:24 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights I needed some rechargeable AAAs and D cells and was shocked at the cost - even on ebay. Must be the price inflation for Li. On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the > long run they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you > wont need to find and replace as much.LEDs are much more rugged in use too. > One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED > lights in it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take > one out when we go home or the lights stay on... > > -Curt > > On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via > Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the > same rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned. > > > On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > > I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you > > screw into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust > > to aim them to the side, down, whatever. Pack of 2 for $20 on sale. > > I had seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than > > that, like $11 or $13 each. So I bought a set and put them in the > > garage shop when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much > > more light than a 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a > > large area. I think I'm going to get another set to go into these > > little rooms in the back of the garage where I have other stuff. > > > > If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. > > They are so transformative Bob is now my auntie! > > > > -- > > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
I managed to find some 12v replacements for the halogen recessed lights in our kitchen. The light quality is much better, they use 1/5th of the power and hopefully will last much longer. Those halogen bulbs were only good for 2-3 years each and are a real pain to replace. -Curt On Monday, June 28, 2021, 1:29:53 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: The best ones I've had are some "corn cob" bulbs I bought on Amazon a few years ago. They came in unlabeled packaging so don't know what brand they are. I have them in outside fixtures and so far they have held up. I don't buy from Amazon anymore and have not been able to find those elsewhere locally, or I would have them in the garage as well. Indoor bulbs I have bought from Lowes. GE or Feit are the brands I've seen. Just had to replace one in the laundry room the other day as it had developed a strobe-light like flicker. Bathroom has clear glass globe lights, I recently bought some GE LEDs to replace those ($16 for 4 bulbs). They look more like incandescents, the LEDs are in thin thread-like arrangements that look more like indandescent filaments. We'll see how those hold up. They do kick off MUCH less heat than the incandescent bulbs, which is something. Allan On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 1:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Maybe it’s the quality of the lamps you’re buying? > > I buy only name brand, like GE, and I’ve got a house full of them that are at > least a couple years old or more. Have yet to replace one. > > I did have to replace one in an outside fixture, but it’s on roughly 8-12 > hours a day and it’s in an inverted position, which I suspect might have > something to do with the failure, not to mention the temperature and climate > extremes it’s exposed to. > > I gladly use LEDs over CFLs, as I hate having to wait for them to “warm up”. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
It depends on which ones you buy. Surprisingly the Cree units I bought early on (about 10 years ago) have had a poor lifespan. As you say the controllers give up. Since then I've been buying Sylvania and had zero failures. National Grid recently had a deal, 20 bulbs for $10 with free shipping. Other than taking 4 weeks to arrive it seems like a pretty good deal. They had some nice candelabra bulbs with full size bases that fit our ceiling fans. I'd had trouble getting that style bulb with the big base. Most of the rest of the bulbs are going into the house up north which is full of 100w incandescent bulbs. Oh, one of the 100w equivalent should go into the garage to replace the last CFL. I'm amazed that one has survived, it really suffers in the cold. -Curt On Monday, June 28, 2021, 1:14:07 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I have not experienced the LED lights lasting longer. Maybe the LEDs themselves do, but there are electronics to convert the 120VAC line supply to whatever the LED needs and that seems to be the weak point. I am replacing LED bulbs (and CFLs before that) about as often as I did incandescents. Allan On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:02 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run > they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find > and replace as much. > LEDs are much more rugged in use too. > > One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in > it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we > go home or the lights stay on... > > -Curt > > On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same > rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned. > > > On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > > I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw > > into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim > > them to the side, down, whatever. Pack of 2 for $20 on sale. I had > > seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, > > like $11 or $13 each. So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop > > when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a > > 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area. I think I'm > > going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of > > the garage where I have other stuff. > > > > If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They > > are so transformative Bob is now my auntie! > > > > -- > > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
I won't touch a CFL anymore, except to use up the box of spares the power company sent me a few times. My favorite bulbs are the 40W-equivalent exposed 'filament' lamps, by Philips. No visible power supply, it's encased in the screw base. The envelope is helium-filled, because helium is an excellent heat conductor. I've had them in the outdoor fixtures for over two years now, and in the interior stairway lights. I've only lost one, apparently they don't like to be submerged! (Rain blew in a weird direction during a torrential storm, and filled the globe over the entryway. Probably ruined the power supply.) These bulbs care not about extreme cold, and run from dusk to 11:30 every day. (The outside ones.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
Mine are primarily GEs from Lowe’s. I have some big globes I used to replace similar incandescents in our guest bath. Big and clunky, but put out more light and far, far less heat. They’re now used in a new fixture that inverts them, so it will be interesting to see how that might affect them. One place I’ve found LEDs to be significantly better is in the underside light on my microwave. On microwaves that are mounted over a stove the work lights they offer are typically 40W “appliance” bulbs that are really weak when it comes to illumination. I bought a “corncob” style 40W equivalent for our new microwave, and it makes a major difference on the amount of light that shines on the stove top. -D > On Jun 28, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > The best ones I've had are some "corn cob" bulbs I bought on Amazon a few > years ago. They came in unlabeled packaging so don't know what brand they > are. I have them in outside fixtures and so far they have held up. I don't > buy from Amazon anymore and have not been able to find those elsewhere > locally, or I would have them in the garage as well. > > Indoor bulbs I have bought from Lowes. GE or Feit are the brands I've seen. > Just had to replace one in the laundry room the other day as it had developed > a strobe-light like flicker. > > Bathroom has clear glass globe lights, I recently bought some GE LEDs to > replace those ($16 for 4 bulbs). They look more like incandescents, the LEDs > are in thin thread-like arrangements that look more like indandescent > filaments. We'll see how those hold up. They do kick off MUCH less heat than > the incandescent bulbs, which is something. > > Allan > > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 1:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Maybe it’s the quality of the lamps you’re buying? >> >> I buy only name brand, like GE, and I’ve got a house full of them that are >> at least a couple years old or more. Have yet to replace one. >> >> I did have to replace one in an outside fixture, but it’s on roughly 8-12 >> hours a day and it’s in an inverted position, which I suspect might have >> something to do with the failure, not to mention the temperature and climate >> extremes it’s exposed to. >> >> I gladly use LEDs over CFLs, as I hate having to wait for them to “warm up”. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
The best ones I've had are some "corn cob" bulbs I bought on Amazon a few years ago. They came in unlabeled packaging so don't know what brand they are. I have them in outside fixtures and so far they have held up. I don't buy from Amazon anymore and have not been able to find those elsewhere locally, or I would have them in the garage as well. Indoor bulbs I have bought from Lowes. GE or Feit are the brands I've seen. Just had to replace one in the laundry room the other day as it had developed a strobe-light like flicker. Bathroom has clear glass globe lights, I recently bought some GE LEDs to replace those ($16 for 4 bulbs). They look more like incandescents, the LEDs are in thin thread-like arrangements that look more like indandescent filaments. We'll see how those hold up. They do kick off MUCH less heat than the incandescent bulbs, which is something. Allan On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 1:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Maybe it’s the quality of the lamps you’re buying? > > I buy only name brand, like GE, and I’ve got a house full of them that are at > least a couple years old or more. Have yet to replace one. > > I did have to replace one in an outside fixture, but it’s on roughly 8-12 > hours a day and it’s in an inverted position, which I suspect might have > something to do with the failure, not to mention the temperature and climate > extremes it’s exposed to. > > I gladly use LEDs over CFLs, as I hate having to wait for them to “warm up”. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
Maybe it’s the quality of the lamps you’re buying? I buy only name brand, like GE, and I’ve got a house full of them that are at least a couple years old or more. Have yet to replace one. I did have to replace one in an outside fixture, but it’s on roughly 8-12 hours a day and it’s in an inverted position, which I suspect might have something to do with the failure, not to mention the temperature and climate extremes it’s exposed to. I gladly use LEDs over CFLs, as I hate having to wait for them to “warm up”. -D > On Jun 28, 2021, at 1:12 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have not experienced the LED lights lasting longer. Maybe the LEDs > themselves do, but there are electronics to convert the 120VAC line supply to > whatever the LED needs and that seems to be the weak point. I am replacing > LED bulbs (and CFLs before that) about as often as I did incandescents. > > Allan > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:02 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run >> they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find >> and replace as much. >> LEDs are much more rugged in use too. >> >> One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in >> it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we >> go home or the lights stay on... >> >> -Curt >> >> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same >> rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned. >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >>> I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw >>> into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim >>> them to the side, down, whatever. Pack of 2 for $20 on sale. I had >>> seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, >>> like $11 or $13 each. So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop >>> when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a >>> 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area. I think I'm >>> going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of >>> the garage where I have other stuff. >>> >>> If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They >>> are so transformative Bob is now my auntie! >>> >>> -- >>> --FT >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
I have not experienced the LED lights lasting longer. Maybe the LEDs themselves do, but there are electronics to convert the 120VAC line supply to whatever the LED needs and that seems to be the weak point. I am replacing LED bulbs (and CFLs before that) about as often as I did incandescents. Allan On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:02 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run > they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find > and replace as much. > LEDs are much more rugged in use too. > > One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in > it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we > go home or the lights stay on... > > -Curt > > On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same > rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned. > > > On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > > I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw > > into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim > > them to the side, down, whatever. Pack of 2 for $20 on sale. I had > > seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, > > like $11 or $13 each. So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop > > when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a > > 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area. I think I'm > > going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of > > the garage where I have other stuff. > > > > If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They > > are so transformative Bob is now my auntie! > > > > -- > > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
Agreed, the enloops are by far the best rechargeables out there in my experience. -D > On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > How much is shocking? Amazon has Panasonic enloops @ $15 for 4. Its a little > more than I paid for Sanyos in 2014 ($12) but not staggeringly. > I wouldn't buy anything other than enloops and I'd stick to a name brand. > Get a good charger too, I have the older version of this: > https://www.amazon.com/Powerex-MH-C9000PRO-Professional-Charger-Analyzer/dp/B08DJDQ4Y8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=maha&qid=1624888949&sr=8-3 > The only thing I buy batteries for is the game camera, because theytake 8x > AAs and the batteries last a year anyway... > > -Curt > >On Monday, June 28, 2021, 9:24:11 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > I needed some rechargeable AAAs and D cells and was shocked at the cost - > even on ebay. Must be the price inflation for Li. > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run > they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find > and replace as much.LEDs are much more rugged in use too. > One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in > it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we > go home or the lights stay on... > > -Curt > > On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same > rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned. > > > On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >> I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw >> into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim >> them to the side, down, whatever. Pack of 2 for $20 on sale. I had >> seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, >> like $11 or $13 each. So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop >> when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a >> 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area. I think I'm >> going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of >> the garage where I have other stuff. >> >> If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They >> are so transformative Bob is now my auntie! >> >> -- >> --FT >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
How much is shocking? Amazon has Panasonic enloops @ $15 for 4. Its a little more than I paid for Sanyos in 2014 ($12) but not staggeringly. I wouldn't buy anything other than enloops and I'd stick to a name brand. Get a good charger too, I have the older version of this: https://www.amazon.com/Powerex-MH-C9000PRO-Professional-Charger-Analyzer/dp/B08DJDQ4Y8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=maha&qid=1624888949&sr=8-3 The only thing I buy batteries for is the game camera, because theytake 8x AAs and the batteries last a year anyway... -Curt On Monday, June 28, 2021, 9:24:11 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I needed some rechargeable AAAs and D cells and was shocked at the cost - even on ebay. Must be the price inflation for Li. On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find and replace as much.LEDs are much more rugged in use too. One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we go home or the lights stay on... -Curt On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned. On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw > into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim > them to the side, down, whatever. Pack of 2 for $20 on sale. I had > seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, > like $11 or $13 each. So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop > when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a > 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area. I think I'm > going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of > the garage where I have other stuff. > > If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They > are so transformative Bob is now my auntie! > > -- > --FT > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
The miners are running out of child slaves to mine the raw materials so the prices are going up --FT On 6/28/21 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I needed some rechargeable AAAs and D cells and was shocked at the cost - even on ebay. Must be the price inflation for Li. On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find and replace as much.LEDs are much more rugged in use too. One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we go home or the lights stay on... -Curt On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned. On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim them to the side, down, whatever. Pack of 2 for $20 on sale. I had seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, like $11 or $13 each. So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area. I think I'm going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of the garage where I have other stuff. If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They are so transformative Bob is now my auntie! -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
I needed some rechargeable AAAs and D cells and was shocked at the cost - even on ebay. Must be the price inflation for Li. On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long > run they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to > find and replace as much.LEDs are much more rugged in use too. > One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in > it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we > go home or the lights stay on... > > -Curt > > On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same > rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned. > > > On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > > I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw > > into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim > > them to the side, down, whatever. Pack of 2 for $20 on sale. I had > > seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, > > like $11 or $13 each. So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop > > when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a > > 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area. I think I'm > > going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of > > the garage where I have other stuff. > > > > If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They > > are so transformative Bob is now my auntie! > > > > -- > > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find and replace as much.LEDs are much more rugged in use too. One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we go home or the lights stay on... -Curt On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned. On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw > into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim > them to the side, down, whatever. Pack of 2 for $20 on sale. I had > seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, > like $11 or $13 each. So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop > when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a > 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area. I think I'm > going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of > the garage where I have other stuff. > > If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They > are so transformative Bob is now my auntie! > > -- > --FT > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
Yeah that was me. The Diesel Creek guy. I see those bright big shop lights on FB adverts --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 26, 2021, at 5:01 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Didn’t someone post a link to a YT video recently about a guy with a big > pole building that replaced some high bay lighting with some LED panels? > Those were amazing. > > -D > >> On Jun 26, 2021, at 4:57 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I just put in three type A LED replacement bulbs in my basement fixtures. >> A lot more light, and probably half the power usage. More expensive that >> rewiring the fixtures. but quick and easy. >> >> I may have to clean that bench off and use it now. >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
Didn’t someone post a link to a YT video recently about a guy with a big pole building that replaced some high bay lighting with some LED panels? Those were amazing. -D > On Jun 26, 2021, at 4:57 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes > wrote: > > I just put in three type A LED replacement bulbs in my basement fixtures. A > lot more light, and probably half the power usage. More expensive that > rewiring the fixtures. but quick and easy. > > I may have to clean that bench off and use it now. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
I just put in three type A LED replacement bulbs in my basement fixtures. A lot more light, and probably half the power usage. More expensive that rewiring the fixtures. but quick and easy. I may have to clean that bench off and use it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
I had 100W bulbs in there, these things throw out so much more directed light it is amazing. There are two ceiling fixtures right above the 2 car bays, in the middle, they really did not do much of anything to light up the space beyond enough to keep from tripping over stuff. While you are correct about the costs, there is also value to consider. Improved performance and probably a lot less electron usage, I am happy with them over an incandescent. --FT On 6/26/21 4:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned. On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim them to the side, down, whatever. Pack of 2 for $20 on sale. I had seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, like $11 or $13 each. So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area. I think I'm going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of the garage where I have other stuff. If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They are so transformative Bob is now my auntie! -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned. On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw > into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim > them to the side, down, whatever. Pack of 2 for $20 on sale. I had > seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, > like $11 or $13 each. So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop > when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a > 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area. I think I'm > going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of > the garage where I have other stuff. > > If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They > are so transformative Bob is now my auntie! > > -- > --FT > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights
I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim them to the side, down, whatever. Pack of 2 for $20 on sale. I had seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, like $11 or $13 each. So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area. I think I'm going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of the garage where I have other stuff. If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They are so transformative Bob is now my auntie! -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
