Re: [MBZ] Some progress with Windows Update (but only a little ...)
What flavor iMac? I would maybe be wanting to find a new home for one. Mom has a 2007 mini, but she needs a bit more ooomph to keep up with her heavy interweb usage clay On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Darren Marshall via Mercedes wrote: > Changing out some machines at the office, might have a few iMacs looking for > new homes soonish--will throw in some bean for sure ;) > > Darren > >> On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Darren wrote: >>> Craig, let me know if you want to buy an iMac... >> >> $$ and iMac - I might like that... >> Tell us more? >> I go visit BowTruss and come home with fresh roasted coffee and old iMac. >> mao >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > -- > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. This > message contains confidential information and is intended only for the > individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender > immediately by email if you have received this email by mistake and delete > this email from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are > notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in > reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some progress with Windows Update (but only a little ...)
> > Fmiser wrote: > > > > And I hear people complain about how hard it is to install > > Linux! > > > > Will what you need run with WINE? > Craig wrote: > > I need to run the Garmin Updater. I don't know if it will > work with WINE; I have never been able to get anything to > run with WINE. Oh. I have occasional success with WINE. I bit of googling results in a couple successes with MapSource http://www.peterverthez.net/gps/garmin-linux.html http://www.foell.org/justin/garmin-mapsource-in-linux-wine/ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=231452 I have not tried any of it, but I do wonder which will be more hassle - getting MSWin to update, or get Garmin to run in WINE? I suppose that's one of those questions that only hind-sight can answer! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some progress with Windows Update (but only a little ...)
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Darren Marshall via Mercedes wrote: > Craig, let me know if you want to buy an iMac... Seems a little drastic. Let me get out of the way that I am not a Windows guy. At work I have probably 30-50 Linux VMs outside IT that I've spun for various people, and I spend less time managing those than the 5-10 long-running Windows servers I've done. I first installed Redhat 6 when that was latest (not RHEL 6 :) and have had at least one Linux machine ever since. That said, the kids are using Windows at school, and so I have had W7 on all my user machines at home for several years. I've installed W7 probably 10 times at home (various laptops/desktops/etc.), mostly on older machines. It's always performed better than XP on those systems, and for the most part better than X Windows - at least from a startup/responsiveness perspective. These are home machines so are powered up and down all the time. The kids log in, do stuff, and then I wipe the system and install again after a while (aforementioned 'registry is stupid' thought). So far it has been pretty painless, but: 1) I know where the drivers are for all the systems. I usually stick them on a USB the first time I have to get them, then update those I can find the next install. 2) I have figured out the trick for installing with the upgrade licenses I have. This is totally absurd but it's the game I play for buying the cheap licenses. 3) I always install on a fast-ish network, and plan to download all the updates over the first few days. I'll do one install the first night, start the second in the morning, the third the next night, and so on. It's silly when I've been able to apt-get update since forever, but it works. 4) I forget to log out / power down at least once a week, so the machine does its updates overnight on that day. 5) HP printer drivers are bad. The hacked ones on Linux are so much better. 6) I once had to call in to proclaim to the lady that I was not using the license elsewhere after a reinstall, but they've never hassled me beyond that for redeploying it. Really I think #3 is the key. Once everything is installed, the updater does a good job keeping up, but the upgrades don't install well out of order. I assume they never fixed the requirement to install updates in waves to account for this, but obviously it doesn't work. You can emulate this on a slower link by installing he latest SP and then running updater, but that in itself is a pain. (For Craig, if he was able to leave the system alone on the internet it would eventually take care of itself, but it would probably take a few days and obviously that's not reasonable on dialup.) So, even though I'm a Linux geek, and tend to deploy them 5x as often as Windows systems*, I think W7 is a decent OS, and a bit better than XP on the same hardware. You really don't have to be scared of it. *Okay, that's hardly fair, we also have a lot of physical servers outside IT: about 60% Unix, 20% each Linux/Windows, and one poor little Mac Mini with a load of different OSX VMs. But if we only count general-computing x86 VMs... Best, Tim wants to spend more time in the real Mercedes than the virtual PCs, but one pays the bills and the other creates them :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some progress with Windows Update (but only a little ...)
Changing out some machines at the office, might have a few iMacs looking for new homes soonish--will throw in some bean for sure ;) Darren > On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > > Darren wrote: >> Craig, let me know if you want to buy an iMac... > > $$ and iMac - I might like that... > Tell us more? > I go visit BowTruss and come home with fresh roasted coffee and old iMac. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately by email if you have received this email by mistake and delete this email from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some progress with Windows Update (but only a little ...)
Darren wrote: > Craig, let me know if you want to buy an iMac... $$ and iMac - I might like that... Tell us more? I go visit BowTruss and come home with fresh roasted coffee and old iMac. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some progress with Windows Update (but only a little ...)
Speaking of computer software -- I have a Parallels window running on my Mac with a Win7 install, which works fine. Yesterday I downloaded Ubuntu 15 and have tried to install it, it gets so far, looks like maybe it installed as a virtual machine OS but then it wants Parallel tools off the CD, but that doesn't work. I found a tutorial that says to grab it off the Mac HD, which I found, but then it wants a terminal session in Ubuntu and it looks like Ubuntu install is hung with 4 dots, and I can't figure out how to open a terminal. --R On 8/25/15 5:31 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: I don't know if it will work with WINE; I have never been able to get anything to run with WINE. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some progress with Windows Update (but only a little ...)
Craig, let me know if you want to buy an iMac... On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:34:42 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > > > And I hear people complain about how hard it is to install > > Linux! > > > > I'm following your progress, Craig, 'cause one of these days > > I'm going to be stuck and have to upgrade my virtual machine > > guest from XP. > > > > I don't recall your reason for needing MSWin - but personally > > I would be re-evaluating that decision about now... > > > > Will what you need run with WINE? > > I need to run the Garmin Updater. I don't know if it will work with WINE; > I have never been able to get anything to run with WINE. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- *Darren Marshall, Co Founder* dar...@doejo.com | 773 348 1227 | 3128 N Broadway, Chicago *We fuel ideas that grow. *Doejo is an award-winning design firm, helping organizations innovate, build products, services, spaces, and experiences. -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately by email if you have received this email by mistake and delete this email from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some progress with Windows Update (but only a little ...)
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:34:42 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > And I hear people complain about how hard it is to install > Linux! > > I'm following your progress, Craig, 'cause one of these days > I'm going to be stuck and have to upgrade my virtual machine > guest from XP. > > I don't recall your reason for needing MSWin - but personally > I would be re-evaluating that decision about now... > > Will what you need run with WINE? I need to run the Garmin Updater. I don't know if it will work with WINE; I have never been able to get anything to run with WINE. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some progress with Windows Update (but only a little ...)
> Craig wrote: > > It has now developed a new problem: ...it has been stuck > > on "Installing update 150 of 179..." > ...after more than 5 hours ... I clicked on the "Stop > installation" button. ... showing it was > installing update 150 of 179. Clicking on the "Stop > installation" button again did nothing. > > I tried to restart the computer, but it said ... not shut it > off. ...I rebooted it ... Now it says, > Failure ... Reverting Do not turn off your computer And I hear people complain about how hard it is to install Linux! I'm following your progress, Craig, 'cause one of these days I'm going to be stuck and have to upgrade my virtual machine guest from XP. I don't recall your reason for needing MSWin - but personally I would be re-evaluating that decision about now... Will what you need run with WINE? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some progress with Windows Update (but only a little ...)
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:52:23 -0600 Craig via Mercedes wrote: > It has now developed a new problem: For the last hour-and-a-half at > least, it has been stuck on "Installing update 150 of 179..." That > update is KB2799926, in case that means anything. > > Does anyone have any ideas what to do now? Well, after more than 5 hours of it trying to install the update, I clicked on the "Stop installation" button. A little while later, a message popped up mentioning installation progress, so I clicked on it. That brought up Windows Update, showing it was installing update 150 of 179. Clicking on the "Stop installation" button again did nothing. I tried to restart the computer, but it said it had to finish installing the updates and to not shut it off. After a while, I held the power button down until the screen went back. I rebooted it and took the option of starting in Safe Mode. Now it says, Failure configuring Windows updates Reverting changes Do not turn off your computer Ugh. I did some research on-line about the problem and found MicrosoftFixit.wu.MATSKB.Run.exe and Update.Readiness.Tool.Windows6.1-KB947821-v34-x86.msu Maybe they will help. I did find a download of Win7 SP1, but that's 1.9 GB, so I didn't download it. That's still an option for tonight. I also found winxpvirtualcdcontrolpanel_21.exe so I won't have to make a CD with SP1 on it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some progress with Windows Update (but only a little ...)
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: It's working its heart out trying to figure out what has been installed and what has not? You might just leave it on overnight and see if it's back to normal in the morning. I left it running overnight and came back to its saying it was installing update 150 of 179. So there was some progress. my "old" 10.6 still works flawlessly. more and more websites don't like the safari browser, but that's ok. SWMBO has 10.5 and it works just fine too, except that few websites like that version of safari, and chrome won't run on 10.5. It is hard to find a browser to work on 10.5 other than extortionware. Still, It is so much nicer than winders with all its patches to patch the patches that were supposed to patch the prior patches and updates. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Some progress with Windows Update (but only a little ...)
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > It's working its heart out trying to figure out what has been installed > and what has not? > You might just leave it on overnight and see if it's back to normal in > the morning. I left it running overnight and came back to its saying it was installing update 150 of 179. So there was some progress. On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:43:50 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes wrote: > The on-demand buttons seem to just be an illusion, I think it just > queries state stored from the last connection. Anyway I often have to > stop and start the Windows Update service or the BITS service to get it > going. Thank you for the tip, Tim. On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:17:15 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Can you kill the the svchost process(s)? I used to do that on an XP > box when it got bogged down, and if they were really needed, they would > automatically restart and usually behave. I did that, but it didn't help. As Tim alluded, the program gives you the impression that when you tell it to do something, it goes out and does it. I was expecting Windows Update in Windows 7 to work as it did in XP (I know, not a safe assumption with Microsoft). Windows Update had already determined a whole long list of updates it needed to install. I selected those and told it to install. The window changed to say it was downloading packages with 0 bytes and 0% downloaded. It sat there quite a long time and then the processor utilization went to 100%, with nothing ever being downloaded. I even checked the RJ-45 receptacle's light -- it was not blinking. In contrast, Windows Update in XP would indeed start downloading the packages when it said it was downloading them. So you can see why I was thinking something was broken. It has now developed a new problem: For the last hour-and-a-half at least, it has been stuck on "Installing update 150 of 179..." That update is KB2799926, in case that means anything. Does anyone have any ideas what to do now? Thank you for your assistance, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com